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There REALLY IS something strange in western sky around sunset...!!!

 
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Just opened the pic-sharing account...Let's establish some basic FACTS about using lay equipment to photograph objects in the sky/space.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


How about an apology to Boxer first. You called him a fraud due to your "lack of understanding". (I'm being nice)

You seem to just skip over all your mistakes as if nothing happened. Why is that?
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062



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Still waiting for that apology.
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Let me make it clear for you:

Motherfucker, I went to your "link"...Astro Bullshit. We are discussing why the data was cropped out--That's it.

I want a link where ANYBODY states that the SURVEY/STUDY is the reason for the missing data. I've watched the Morrison video several times.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE

You don't even get it. The reason for the missing data is NOT the "survey/study." And it's a SKY SURVEY. The data is NOT missing from the sky survey, THAT is the point! It's only missing from google's sky mosaic which they made by using the sky survey data. Google Sky is a secondary source and should NOT be used as a primary source. If you find something wrong or missing with the secondary source, you should check the primary source. If you had you would have seen there was nothing missing from it. I gave you links to both the primary source and an image of the "missing region" I made from the data downloaded direct from the primary source.
You know a NEWS link....Missing Data from S.O.P. Astro Study causes urban legend.
 Quoting: 3rdeyelie

That's not even what I said you fucking idiot liar. It's NOT missing from the goddamn sky survey!
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3rd eye.. really nice job you are doing.
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Oh really? Then explain why I had no problem finding the "missing data" from the same sky survey google sky used. Explain it.
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3rd eye.. really nice job you are doing.
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Oh really? Then explain why I had no problem finding the "missing data" from the same sky survey google sky used. Explain it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Now you are really defensive astro.

1. I was not talking to you. 2. I was not referring to that AT all.

hmmm interesting... feeling threatened are you? Cracks beginning to appear in the facade.... Oops!
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Confession Time:

I have not been participating fairly as my buddies don't know who they are PROFESSIONALLY dealing with...and that isn't fair. With that, here's what I can share:

1)I have worked in the neuroscience/brain-training field for 9+ years

2)I attended one of the "Best Public Universities" in the United States of America

3) I have officiated Men's Basketball at some of the highest levels in the world (NCAA Men's Division I and National Basketball Association) since 1999. This is only relevant because eyesight, discernment, ability to adjudicate, VIDEO an Photo review are critical in this field.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Then how in the wide world of sports could you not understand that Stellarium cannot magically sense the “real skyline” of its user or a comparative photo and incorporate it into its “simulated” skyline? My twelve year old could figure that out.


Thread: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset (Page 2)

You know, the thread where you called Boxer a fraud.
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


Another LIE, I have NEVER use Stellarium (neithr did the Sumerians), so how/why would I know you can make fake skylines. In fact I asked your BITCH ASS if the "skylines" are "default"...(i.e. could boxer have "chosen"/"selected" no skyline, desert horizon, ocean horizon, OR "trees at night to make a picture appear to match". Seems to be relevant. Did you answer? NOPE.

And you dumb, arrogant, BITCH...to think I didn't understand the concept is HILARIOUS. Here's my PROOF I do:

When I was REALLY little and young, BEFORE AIRPLANES at D.C. National made CLOUDS, before there were PERPENDICULAR (to the earth's horizon that it) clouds...I'm 44, so do the math...Anyhow, when we took school pictures in 2nd grade there was a horse and wagon behind me (in the picture). In third grade, same picture, but there was a daisy field behind me. So to be clear, you haven't explained ANYTHING that I have not understood. If you don't understand the difference between "never used it, don't care" vs. don't understand how it works, then your the dumb ass.

Analogy for assholes: Have NEVER used a blow-dryer, so I don't know if they have 2, 3, or 4 speeds/temps, but I understand they work like you--BLOW HOT FUCKING AIR.

BITCH, where's my "STUDY" link, AstroHO?
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


rofl

This guy takes the cake for pathetic troll.

stfu
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3rd eye.. really nice job you are doing.
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Oh really? Then explain why I had no problem finding the "missing data" from the same sky survey google sky used. Explain it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Now you are really defensive astro.

1. I was not talking to you. 2. I was not referring to that AT all.

hmmm interesting... feeling threatened are you? Cracks beginning to appear in the facade.... Oops!
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Then what are you referring to?
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Third eye getting you lot all flustered. He's getting to you.. crawling under your skin. Making you really have to work.

I like it. ;)
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Confession Time:

I have not been participating fairly as my buddies don't know who they are PROFESSIONALLY dealing with...and that isn't fair. With that, here's what I can share:

1)I have worked in the neuroscience/brain-training field for 9+ years

2)I attended one of the "Best Public Universities" in the United States of America

3) I have officiated Men's Basketball at some of the highest levels in the world (NCAA Men's Division I and National Basketball Association) since 1999. This is only relevant because eyesight, discernment, ability to adjudicate, VIDEO an Photo review are critical in this field.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Then how in the wide world of sports could you not understand that Stellarium cannot magically sense the “real skyline” of its user or a comparative photo and incorporate it into its “simulated” skyline? My twelve year old could figure that out.


Thread: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset (Page 2)

You know, the thread where you called Boxer a fraud.
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


Another LIE, I have NEVER use Stellarium (neithr did the Sumerians), so how/why would I know you can make fake skylines. In fact I asked your BITCH ASS if the "skylines" are "default"...(i.e. could boxer have "chosen"/"selected" no skyline, desert horizon, ocean horizon, OR "trees at night to make a picture appear to match". Seems to be relevant. Did you answer? NOPE.

And you dumb, arrogant, BITCH...to think I didn't understand the concept is HILARIOUS. Here's my PROOF I do:

When I was REALLY little and young, BEFORE AIRPLANES at D.C. National made CLOUDS, before there were PERPENDICULAR (to the earth's horizon that it) clouds...I'm 44, so do the math...Anyhow, when we took school pictures in 2nd grade there was a horse and wagon behind me (in the picture). In third grade, same picture, but there was a daisy field behind me. So to be clear, you haven't explained ANYTHING that I have not understood. If you don't understand the difference between "never used it, don't care" vs. don't understand how it works, then your the dumb ass.

Analogy for assholes: Have NEVER used a blow-dryer, so I don't know if they have 2, 3, or 4 speeds/temps, but I understand they work like you--BLOW HOT FUCKING AIR.

BITCH, where's my "STUDY" link, AstroHO?
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


LOL! You are going to act like you understood it now?

You directed people to that thread because you thought that Boxer had created fake imagery. You said it was proof he was a fraud. That wasn’t true. You did that because you were unable to understand a simple concept. Additionally, you were unable to even admit it or apologize. You just move on under the mistaken assumption that people did not notice or will quickly forget.
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Third eye getting you lot all flustered. He's getting to you.. crawling under your skin. Making you really have to work.

I like it. ;)
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I see, you won't answer the question, you just like the fact that he's trolling.
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Confession Time:

I have not been participating fairly as my buddies don't know who they are PROFESSIONALLY dealing with...and that isn't fair. With that, here's what I can share:

1)I have worked in the neuroscience/brain-training field for 9+ years

2)I attended one of the "Best Public Universities" in the United States of America

3) I have officiated Men's Basketball at some of the highest levels in the world (NCAA Men's Division I and National Basketball Association) since 1999. This is only relevant because eyesight, discernment, ability to adjudicate, VIDEO an Photo review are critical in this field.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Then how in the wide world of sports could you not understand that Stellarium cannot magically sense the “real skyline” of its user or a comparative photo and incorporate it into its “simulated” skyline? My twelve year old could figure that out.


Thread: Pic of the Bright Sphere that Appears at Sunset (Page 2)

You know, the thread where you called Boxer a fraud.
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


Another LIE, I have NEVER use Stellarium (neithr did the Sumerians), so how/why would I know you can make fake skylines. In fact I asked your BITCH ASS if the "skylines" are "default"...(i.e. could boxer have "chosen"/"selected" no skyline, desert horizon, ocean horizon, OR "trees at night to make a picture appear to match". Seems to be relevant. Did you answer? NOPE.

And you dumb, arrogant, BITCH...to think I didn't understand the concept is HILARIOUS. Here's my PROOF I do:

When I was REALLY little and young, BEFORE AIRPLANES at D.C. National made CLOUDS, before there were PERPENDICULAR (to the earth's horizon that it) clouds...I'm 44, so do the math...Anyhow, when we took school pictures in 2nd grade there was a horse and wagon behind me (in the picture). In third grade, same picture, but there was a daisy field behind me. So to be clear, you haven't explained ANYTHING that I have not understood. If you don't understand the difference between "never used it, don't care" vs. don't understand how it works, then your the dumb ass.

Analogy for assholes: Have NEVER used a blow-dryer, so I don't know if they have 2, 3, or 4 speeds/temps, but I understand they work like you--BLOW HOT FUCKING AIR.

BITCH, where's my "STUDY" link, AstroHO?
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


LOL! You are going to act like you understood it now?

You directed people to that thread because you thought that Boxer had created fake imagery. You said it was proof he was a fraud. That wasn’t true. You did that because you were unable to understand a simple concept. Additionally, you were unable to even admit it or apologize. You just move on under the mistaken assumption that people did not notice or will quickly forget.
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


clappa
Bingo. He owes Boxer a huge apology.
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Chew on this.

Go to site in5d and scroll down to story "Unknown Glowing UFO In Evening Western Sky - Starship? Comet? Nibiru? Hercolubus?".

bump
 Quoting: SpellBinder


You really need to go to that website, they have really good pictures of the object that is being seen by all, definitely not a contrail.
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I think all of that info is based on this very thread and this very thread only, someone should make a comparison of wording in sighting reports and embedded vids.

Just a thought, may be coincedence or i may be wrong.
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I got that same impression.
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Items in Question:

Picture 1--We agree it is an illustration (even though Sethy could only say "it appears to be an illustration"). Don't know about you all, but to me that suggests it could be an actual photography.

Does ANYONE agree with Sethy on this bullshit? If so, state your Name.

Picture 2--We agree, NOTHING but clear blue skies. No planes, contrails, chemtrails, lens flare, clouds, nothing (hint, hint this is OBVIOUSLY not the SW sky)

Picture 3--Waiting on "their" answer

Picture 4--We disagree. At least 5 - 10 said "lens flare" b/c of the wire, but actually the wire had nothing to do with it b/c there is some other UN-STATED proof in picture 3 that not 1, but 2 objects are flare or flare-related. What proof you ask, Astro said so and posted a finger test video. Astro has NOT responded to the black thread/sun simulation which is FAR more analogous and easier to produce than responding to my messages. He said the finger was a test, but the thread was a "game". Good thing he gets to play Dick Webster, right?

And to be clear, the object in pics 3, 4 and 5 (WERE NEVER VISIBLE THROUGH MY CAMERA VIEWER).

Picture 5--We disagree. At least 2 people said "lens flare"/"filter flare". There proof/evidence = they said so. Supporting evidence: Shill logic if there is a picture of the sun and ANYTHING else, ALL OTHER SAID things EXCEPT animals are "flares". Get it, right? Nevermind, the REAL flares in the pic (the reddish, circular, translucent flares at or around the bright object). Nope, the two flares that look like a planet AND a moon in photos and with my naked eyes, and the moon (less prominent) than the planet maintains the same DISTANCE and ORIENTATION to the planet...That's that new lens flare, right? How do they know it's a flare and not "the contrail" that everybody has been seeing? Funny, thing my pictures will take it from:

invisible to naked eye
Double lens flare on wire
Double lens flare off wire
Contrail
Venus
NEARLY identical to the DOCUMENTED --descriptions/illustrations of the "winged planet"

And then I am done, so consider us to be at stage 3 of 6.
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AstroDog,

To be clear, I did not and am not saying the object is in front of the "object". Just the opposite, the wire is in front and the big object is behind, which is why you can CLEARLY SEE both
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Are you blind or just plain crazy?
[link to img802.imageshack.us]
That is a magnified view of your image, no resampling, and you can clearly see that your flare obscured the wire.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Still waiting for a coherent explanation for why the flare obscured the wire...
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The plot thickens...wow
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Yeah, wow, a bright star or planet. Gee, there aren't ANY bright stars or planets in the west right now, are there? Do tell me Blue, how does this "thicken" the plot at all? He doesn't show any wide views with other stars in the view which could be used to astrometrically solve it, so we're left to guess where exactly this is in the sky. "West" is awfully vague and leaves a number of likely candidates. And that's before we start making ridiculous assumptions that there is some bright naked eye star or planet visible in the west that amateur astronomers have not noticed, discovered, and screamed about. Yet somehow idiots on youtube with no idea how to properly measure the position of this thing, have in fact discovered something that EVERY competent amateur astronomer out there would instantly notice. To use a word you like to use, that would be "impossible."

Again, I invite you to join me at Chiefland astronomy village this year for the fall star party in two weeks. I'll be there Thursday through Sunday along with many other amateur astronomers, each one armed with extremely powerful equipment.

 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Hey, message me, I might actually be able to come. If that is November 1st I will again be in Orlando and would love to attend.

Went to the Miami museum of science this weekend and the local astronomy club was there. I asked about the "object" but none had seen it. One guy immediately said Ison though.

Thanks for the invite. Would really love to attend.
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Third eye getting you lot all flustered. He's getting to you.. crawling under your skin. Making you really have to work.

I like it. ;)
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Really?

Who is frustrated? I see 3rdEye dropping F-bombs on almost every post now. Some of his sentences sentences have become unintelligible and he keeps mixing up terms. In fact, he becomes increasingly belligerent with every post.
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Went to the Miami museum of science this weekend and the local astronomy club was there. I asked about the "object" but none had seen it. One guy immediately said Ison though.
 Quoting: Bluepill

Really..??

Well I suppose that shows that beginners, as well experienced observers attend the clubs there.

ISON is currently in Leo, and is a morning object.
No way it can be seen in the west, around sunset.
And a diffuse object like a comet, at around magnitude 10, isn't an easy visual target in a 8" - 10" telescope - not a hope of seeing it by naked-eye yet.
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It is NOT venus(you can see that clearly to the left/higher)

It is NOT mercury(can hardly be seen @ all, certainly doesn't have disc like appendage)

You can not see anything unusual with eyes only, HOWEVER with a pair of binoculars you can see a round, reddish object as bright as Venus BUT with something CLEARLY protruding from it that is disc like but open ended.


A sort of "V" shape to it... The left side appears to be more prominent. I've checked it out last two nights and can hardly believe my eyes. All articles I read state you can NOT see the rings of Saturn with just binocs; its too far for that. Plus the "V" shape part is larger then the object; it is vice versa with Saturn. I've seen saturn through a proper telescope and it was tiny, its rings even more so.

Please if you are in usa/canada or other northern latitudes, check it out, near sunset WITH binocs @ least. I can't believe this but it looks just like the images of what niburu is supposed to look like, the winged disc!!!

Craziest thing I've ever seen, right up there with hale bopp or green lightning or intense aurora action.

I am sort of willing to believe it's Saturn due to local, appearance but doesn't seem possible @ all(way too much detail for such weak/generic binoculars! It doesn't even say the mag power on them.)!!!
AND
The rings are NOT open ended
The rings are NOT more prominent then the planet/object



Again it is NOT venus, observed it shorlty later/unmistakably.
Mercury might of been the winged messanger but does NOT actually have wing/disc like appearance to it ever.

Will attempt images tomorrow.
 Quoting: ok 7875900

SAME OBJECT THREE YEARS AGO......
[link to youtu.be]
THE REST SPEAK FOR ITSELF......
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The plot thickens...wow
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Yeah, wow, a bright star or planet. Gee, there aren't ANY bright stars or planets in the west right now, are there? Do tell me Blue, how does this "thicken" the plot at all? He doesn't show any wide views with other stars in the view which could be used to astrometrically solve it, so we're left to guess where exactly this is in the sky. "West" is awfully vague and leaves a number of likely candidates. And that's before we start making ridiculous assumptions that there is some bright naked eye star or planet visible in the west that amateur astronomers have not noticed, discovered, and screamed about. Yet somehow idiots on youtube with no idea how to properly measure the position of this thing, have in fact discovered something that EVERY competent amateur astronomer out there would instantly notice. To use a word you like to use, that would be "impossible."

Again, I invite you to join me at Chiefland astronomy village this year for the fall star party in two weeks. I'll be there Thursday through Sunday along with many other amateur astronomers, each one armed with extremely powerful equipment.

 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Hey, message me, I might actually be able to come. If that is November 1st I will again be in Orlando and would love to attend.

Went to the Miami museum of science this weekend and the local astronomy club was there. I asked about the "object" but none had seen it. One guy immediately said Ison though.

Thanks for the invite. Would really love to attend.
 Quoting: Bluepill


Message sent, I sincerely hope you show up. I can predict what the experience will be like though:
Nibooboo
In all seriousness, you haven't seen serious amateur astronomers in action until you've attended a major star party like Chiefland. If there were ANYTHING sitting out there in the west like that "unidentified," they would know about it.
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It is NOT venus(you can see that clearly to the left/higher)

It is NOT mercury(can hardly be seen @ all, certainly doesn't have disc like appendage)

You can not see anything unusual with eyes only, HOWEVER with a pair of binoculars you can see a round, reddish object as bright as Venus BUT with something CLEARLY protruding from it that is disc like but open ended.


A sort of "V" shape to it... The left side appears to be more prominent. I've checked it out last two nights and can hardly believe my eyes. All articles I read state you can NOT see the rings of Saturn with just binocs; its too far for that. Plus the "V" shape part is larger then the object; it is vice versa with Saturn. I've seen saturn through a proper telescope and it was tiny, its rings even more so.

Please if you are in usa/canada or other northern latitudes, check it out, near sunset WITH binocs @ least. I can't believe this but it looks just like the images of what niburu is supposed to look like, the winged disc!!!

Craziest thing I've ever seen, right up there with hale bopp or green lightning or intense aurora action.

I am sort of willing to believe it's Saturn due to local, appearance but doesn't seem possible @ all(way too much detail for such weak/generic binoculars! It doesn't even say the mag power on them.)!!!
AND
The rings are NOT open ended
The rings are NOT more prominent then the planet/object



Again it is NOT venus, observed it shorlty later/unmistakably.
Mercury might of been the winged messanger but does NOT actually have wing/disc like appearance to it ever.

Will attempt images tomorrow.
 Quoting: ok 7875900

SAME OBJECT THREE YEARS AGO......
[link to youtu.be]
THE REST SPEAK FOR ITSELF......
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Nice autofocus fail.
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It is NOT venus(you can see that clearly to the left/higher)

It is NOT mercury(can hardly be seen @ all, certainly doesn't have disc like appendage)

You can not see anything unusual with eyes only, HOWEVER with a pair of binoculars you can see a round, reddish object as bright as Venus BUT with something CLEARLY protruding from it that is disc like but open ended.


A sort of "V" shape to it... The left side appears to be more prominent. I've checked it out last two nights and can hardly believe my eyes. All articles I read state you can NOT see the rings of Saturn with just binocs; its too far for that. Plus the "V" shape part is larger then the object; it is vice versa with Saturn. I've seen saturn through a proper telescope and it was tiny, its rings even more so.

Please if you are in usa/canada or other northern latitudes, check it out, near sunset WITH binocs @ least. I can't believe this but it looks just like the images of what niburu is supposed to look like, the winged disc!!!

Craziest thing I've ever seen, right up there with hale bopp or green lightning or intense aurora action.

I am sort of willing to believe it's Saturn due to local, appearance but doesn't seem possible @ all(way too much detail for such weak/generic binoculars! It doesn't even say the mag power on them.)!!!


AND
The rings are NOT open ended
The rings are NOT more prominent then the planet/object



Again it is NOT venus, observed it shorlty later/unmistakably.
Mercury might of been the winged messanger but does NOT actually have wing/disc like appearance to it ever.

Will attempt images tomorrow.
 Quoting: ok 7875900

SAME OBJECT THREE YEARS AGO......
[link to youtu.be]
THE REST SPEAK FOR ITSELF......



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Nice autofocus fail.
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TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE VIDEO.....
REALLY.....
MAYBE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND.....
THAT THIS IS NOT A STAR.......
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It is NOT venus(you can see that clearly to the left/higher)

It is NOT mercury(can hardly be seen @ all, certainly doesn't have disc like appendage)

You can not see anything unusual with eyes only, HOWEVER with a pair of binoculars you can see a round, reddish object as bright as Venus BUT with something CLEARLY protruding from it that is disc like but open ended.


A sort of "V" shape to it... The left side appears to be more prominent. I've checked it out last two nights and can hardly believe my eyes. All articles I read state you can NOT see the rings of Saturn with just binocs; its too far for that. Plus the "V" shape part is larger then the object; it is vice versa with Saturn. I've seen saturn through a proper telescope and it was tiny, its rings even more so.

Please if you are in usa/canada or other northern latitudes, check it out, near sunset WITH binocs @ least. I can't believe this but it looks just like the images of what niburu is supposed to look like, the winged disc!!!

Craziest thing I've ever seen, right up there with hale bopp or green lightning or intense aurora action.

I am sort of willing to believe it's Saturn due to local, appearance but doesn't seem possible @ all(way too much detail for such weak/generic binoculars! It doesn't even say the mag power on them.)!!!


AND
The rings are NOT open ended
The rings are NOT more prominent then the planet/object



Again it is NOT venus, observed it shorlty later/unmistakably.
Mercury might of been the winged messanger but does NOT actually have wing/disc like appearance to it ever.

Will attempt images tomorrow.
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SAME OBJECT THREE YEARS AGO......
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THE REST SPEAK FOR ITSELF......



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Nice autofocus fail.
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TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE VIDEO.....
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I did. Really. Turn off your autofocus and use manual focus. Set focus to infinity. Problem solved.
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Picture 1--We agree it is an illustration (even though Sethy could only say "it appears to be an illustration"). Don't know about you all, but to me that suggests it could be an actual photography.

Does ANYONE agree with Sethy on this bullshit? If so, state your Name.

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Oh, I have to laugh.

Yes, by all means. If anyone here disagrees with my statement that the image “appears to be an illustration”, please state your name.
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TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE VIDEO.....
REALLY.....
MAYBE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND.....
THAT THIS IS NOT A STAR.......
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It could be almost anything, star, planet, plane....

The pattern you get when the image spreads, would be the same if you filmed any small, bright, light source.
It's generated by the optics.

Astronomers routinely de-focus point-sources of light, as a means of aligning and/or checking optics, and see these patterns all the times.
Except that we don't usually see such mis-shapen/deformed patterns, because our optics are usually far better/cleaner than the optics being used here.
The camera lens is either poor-quality, or dirty (maybe both)

Good, clean, well-aligned optics will give a pattern of concentric rings if you de-focus a point-source.
The crappy optics you get in many cameras and cell-phones give all sorts of indistinct 'orb' shapes, hexagons, diamonds, etc. with all kinds of weird anomalies.
Just like this video.

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Picture 2--We agree, NOTHING but clear blue skies. No planes, contrails, chemtrails, lens flare, clouds, nothing (hint, hint this is OBVIOUSLY not the SW sky)

Picture 3--Waiting on "their" answer


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Picture 2--We agree, NOTHING but clear blue skies. No planes, contrails, chemtrails, lens flare, clouds, nothing (hint, hint this is OBVIOUSLY not the SW sky)

Who said it was a photo of the SW sky?

Picture 3--Waiting on "their" answer

I already commented on that.
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Just opened the pic-sharing account...Let's establish some basic FACTS about using lay equipment to photograph objects in the sky/space.
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How about an apology to Boxer first. You called him a fraud due to your "lack of understanding". (I'm being nice)

You seem to just skip over all your mistakes as if nothing happened. Why is that?
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bump
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Still waiting for that apology.
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You gonna get the apology as soon as you answer this questions:

Did you drop those trees in? Or was it Default?

This is EXTREMELY relevant, but NO ANSWER, makes me suspicious. The poster's picture had REAL TREES, what about yours? Did you select "nightime trees" or NOT?

Your continued abstinence from answering this is speaking volumes.

By the way, thanks for the ban, it cost me $10 that I will take from your pride, integrity and creditability. Now what about those trees?
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Picture 1--We agree it is an illustration (even though Sethy could only say "it appears to be an illustration"). Don't know about you all, but to me that suggests it could be an actual photography.

Does ANYONE agree with Sethy on this bullshit? If so, state your Name.

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Oh, I have to laugh.

Yes, by all means. If anyone here disagrees with my statement that the image “appears to be an illustration”, please state your name.
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Sethy you are slipping AGAIN. I, Erik F. Barnes, disagree. Picture #1 IS AN ILLUSTRATION. Vis a Vis, it is PHYSICALLY impossible that picture #1 (Google Image "winged planet") is an ACTUAL photograph...so that is the very definition of "is" vs. "appears". Did I lose you?

And for the post stats, NOBODY has stepped forward to say "they think it is an illustration, but they are not sure". Why come, Sethy? (bad grammar for dramatic effect)
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And to be clear, the object in pics 3, 4 and 5 (WERE NEVER VISIBLE THROUGH MY CAMERA VIEWER).


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If by object, you mean what appears to be the planet/star in image 3 and the lens/filter flares in image 3 & 4, then that is not surprising.
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Items in Question:

Picture 1--We agree it is an illustration (even though Sethy could only say "it appears to be an illustration"). Don't know about you all, but to me that suggests it could be an actual photography.

Does ANYONE agree with Sethy on this bullshit? If so, state your Name.

Picture 2--We agree, NOTHING but clear blue skies. No planes, contrails, chemtrails, lens flare, clouds, nothing (hint, hint this is OBVIOUSLY not the SW sky)

Picture 3--Waiting on "their" answer

Picture 4--We disagree. At least 5 - 10 said "lens flare" b/c of the wire, but actually the wire had nothing to do with it b/c there is some other UN-STATED proof in picture 3 that not 1, but 2 objects are flare or flare-related. What proof you ask, Astro said so and posted a finger test video. Astro has NOT responded to the black thread/sun simulation which is FAR more analogous and easier to produce than responding to my messages. He said the finger was a test, but the thread was a "game". Good thing he gets to play Dick Webster, right?

And to be clear, the object in pics 3, 4 and 5 (WERE NEVER VISIBLE THROUGH MY CAMERA VIEWER).

Picture 5--We disagree. At least 2 people said "lens flare"/"filter flare". There proof/evidence = they said so. Supporting evidence: Shill logic if there is a picture of the sun and ANYTHING else, ALL OTHER SAID things EXCEPT animals are "flares". Get it, right? Nevermind, the REAL flares in the pic (the reddish, circular, translucent flares at or around the bright object). Nope, the two flares that look like a planet AND a moon in photos and with my naked eyes, and the moon (less prominent) than the planet maintains the same DISTANCE and ORIENTATION to the planet...That's that new lens flare, right? How do they know it's a flare and not "the contrail" that everybody has been seeing? Funny, thing my pictures will take it from:

invisible to naked eye
Double lens flare on wire
Double lens flare off wire
Contrail
Venus
NEARLY identical to the DOCUMENTED --descriptions/illustrations of the "winged planet"

And then I am done, so consider us to be at stage 3 of 6.
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Not sure if I understood you correctly. In your picture #5 I see both versions. 1. A reflection of light between the lense and the glass of your camera (at the ~1100 position) and also you have lense flares which appear reddish (at the bottom) in your picture.

Are you saying that the reddish flares are coming from Planet X?

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we see it here in iowa to so bright what is it a ufo or what?
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it looks like bright big plane coming in to land but does not move???

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