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There REALLY IS something strange in western sky around sunset...!!!

 
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I saw a bright object last night that looked like a star, but it just disappeared after watching it for a few minutes. It was the brightest star I have ever seen. Makes no sense that it is there and then gone. It shows up quit often these days. No it does not move like a plane either. It is bright white like a star.
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Now we are clearly getting back to “Venus-like” reports.

Just saying….
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I think it is pretty clear now that there are two (2) objects that people are describing, which may or may not be related to one another. I agree, it is confusing and inexplicable, but that does not discount the fact that people SWEAR that they are seeing a super-bright star and they SWEAR that they are seeing a contrail that does not move until the sun sets. This is a deepening mystery.
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Hey astromut. Why would a brighter than normal star go and disappear? It's not venus! I see it one minute then it's gone. It has been happening for a few weeks now. Then only camera I have is a dslr that ain't gonna catch it
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I can think of a number of reasons an untrained observer would see a "bright star" appear to "disappear." If it's bright then you shouldn't have any trouble taking a picture of it with a dSLR. Hell, even if it's DIM you shouldn't have any trouble taking a picture of it with a dSLR. As long as it's bright enough for you to see by naked eye even the most simple setup with an SLR will work. You just need a tripod and you're all set.
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I think we're all looking for those reasons. Certainly the sudden appearance of cloud cover could make a stars vanish from sight, but that doesn't appear to be what is happening here.

I, too, would like to know what would make a star suddenly vanish, not set.
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Hey astromut. Why would a brighter than normal star go and disappear? It's not venus! I see it one minute then it's gone. It has been happening for a few weeks now. Then only camera I have is a dslr that ain't gonna catch it
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I can think of a number of reasons an untrained observer would see a "bright star" appear to "disappear." If it's bright then you shouldn't have any trouble taking a picture of it with a dSLR. Hell, even if it's DIM you shouldn't have any trouble taking a picture of it with a dSLR. As long as it's bright enough for you to see by naked eye even the most simple setup with an SLR will work. You just need a tripod and you're all set.
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I have taken pics of Venus with my cell...they come out good...

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I saw a bright object last night that looked like a star, but it just disappeared after watching it for a few minutes. It was the brightest star I have ever seen. Makes no sense that it is there and then gone. It shows up quit often these days. No it does not move like a plane either. It is bright white like a star.
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Now we are clearly getting back to “Venus-like” reports.

Just saying….
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I think it is pretty clear now that there are two (2) objects that people are describing, which may or may not be related to one another. I agree, it is confusing and inexplicable, but that does not discount the fact that people SWEAR that they are seeing a super-bright star and they SWEAR that they are seeing a contrail that does not move until the sun sets. This is a deepening mystery.
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I do not care how much you swear, swear, swear, the evidence always shows that the "object" IS moving even when those posting it claim it is not. Look at the videos. It IS moving. Contrail. As for the other, the first "star" seen at night, the brightest object out there after sunset other than the moon is Venus. I also showed that at 12:00 in this video:

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Hey astromut. Why would a brighter than normal star go and disappear? It's not venus! I see it one minute then it's gone. It has been happening for a few weeks now. Then only camera I have is a dslr that ain't gonna catch it. I am sure my iphone 5s ain't gonna do it either.
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I saw it on sunday, 13th. Definetely was brighter than Venus but disappeared in a few seconds.
I'm in southeast Brazil.

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I saw a bright object last night that looked like a star, but it just disappeared after watching it for a few minutes. It was the brightest star I have ever seen. Makes no sense that it is there and then gone. It shows up quit often these days. No it does not move like a plane either. It is bright white like a star.
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It is possible that you saw a planet being illuminated by the sun and you were looking at this planet at the very time earth blocked the light of the sun illuminating it. I'm a believer that something is out there, I just wanted you to be aware of the mistakes that I've made with things in the sky 'disappearing' on me.
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No the person's statement is not false. I have been seeing it every night too. I made the mistake of thinking it was just Venus ... BUT wondered why it was so much larger and nearer than I have ever seen Venus before in my entire life. It is not Venus ... unless the planet has drastically altered its orbit. Just don't know what it is.

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I have a question for you, friend: a neighbor called me last night with the same questions (she and her husband have a perfect view of the horizon above our valley). I had mentioned to her this strange star that some are seeing, and she instantly recalled observing it a couple of weeks ago. But she was wondering if it was Venus because she couldn't imagine anything else that bright in the sky, and in her 65 years of stargazing she had never seen Venus that bright. So it caught her attention. I asked her to use sky charts tonight to more accurately determine what she is seeing, and I may drive over to help her navigate the area. Could very well be that she is only seeing Venus.

So my question for you is this: was this the only bright object in the sky at the time? How do you know that it wasn't Venus? I am not doubting you, but I am wondering if/how you positively eliminated Venus as a candidate.

Having said that, even if what you and my neighbor saw was Venus, I think it is peculiar that so many people are suddenly noticing how bright the planet is. It's not as if the planet just showed up this year. We are talking about the morning and evening star - the most well-recognized object in the night sky other than the moon. And yet so many people are suddenly being struck by its brightness? Makes one wonder whether other planets may be experiencing the effects of "whatever" is out there.
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It was far too big and close to be Venus, unless there is something really, really wrong with its orbit. Also way too bright for Venus. I am accustomed to seeing Venus and thus familiar with what it looks like. Take that image of Venus and make it 1,000 brighter (just a guess) and probably four times bigger and much, much closer and that what it looked like to me. It doesn't matter if you doubt me. It is either Venus with something really wrong or it is something else. Will be interesting to find out what it is.


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Hey astromut. Why would a brighter than normal star go and disappear? It's not venus! I see it one minute then it's gone. It has been happening for a few weeks now. Then only camera I have is a dslr that ain't gonna catch it
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I can think of a number of reasons an untrained observer would see a "bright star" appear to "disappear." If it's bright then you shouldn't have any trouble taking a picture of it with a dSLR. Hell, even if it's DIM you shouldn't have any trouble taking a picture of it with a dSLR. As long as it's bright enough for you to see by naked eye even the most simple setup with an SLR will work. You just need a tripod and you're all set.
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I have taken pics of Venus with my cell...they come out good...

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Yes. That looks a lot like what I keep seeing.

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Hey astromut. Why would a brighter than normal star go and disappear? It's not venus! I see it one minute then it's gone. It has been happening for a few weeks now. Then only camera I have is a dslr that ain't gonna catch it. I am sure my iphone 5s ain't gonna do it either.
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I saw it on sunday, 13th. Definetely was brighter than Venus but disappeared in a few seconds.
I'm in southeast Brazil.

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In a few seconds? Sounds like an Iridium flare. Possibly a glint of sun off a distant plane that wasn't leaving a visible contrail as well. I've seen that happen too.
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Hey astromut. Why would a brighter than normal star go and disappear? It's not venus! I see it one minute then it's gone. It has been happening for a few weeks now. Then only camera I have is a dslr that ain't gonna catch it. I am sure my iphone 5s ain't gonna do it either.
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I saw it on sunday, 13th. Definetely was brighter than Venus but disappeared in a few seconds.
I'm in southeast Brazil.

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Ok I think I know what you are talking about...I have seen this 3 times in as many months...What I saw was defiantly NOT Venus...Wrong area in the night sky...But what I saw was at 11 - 12 midnight...It was bright silver...I kept looking at it trying to figure out what star/planet it could be...As I looked at it...It began to move upward until it vanished out of sight...There were several threads about it...I am in N TX and people seen it in Arizona...Cali...and a few other states...Although you could be witness to something else...
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I saw a bright object last night that looked like a star, but it just disappeared after watching it for a few minutes. It was the brightest star I have ever seen. Makes no sense that it is there and then gone. It shows up quit often these days. No it does not move like a plane either. It is bright white like a star.
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Now we are clearly getting back to “Venus-like” reports.

Just saying….
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I think it is pretty clear now that there are two (2) objects that people are describing, which may or may not be related to one another. I agree, it is confusing and inexplicable, but that does not discount the fact that people SWEAR that they are seeing a super-bright star and they SWEAR that they are seeing a contrail that does not move until the sun sets. This is a deepening mystery.
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I do not care how much you swear, swear, swear, the evidence always shows that the "object" IS moving even when those posting it claim it is not. Look at the videos. It IS moving. Contrail. As for the other, the first "star" seen at night, the brightest object out there after sunset other than the moon is Venus. I also showed that at 12:00 in this video:

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I don't know who initially posted this video, but this is not what my friend saw. Re-read what I posted. he was emphatic that it was not a contrail, and since he lives in a large metro area near an airport he sees contrails frequently. Again, he is a skeptic. Thought I was crazy when I described what people are seeing. Repeatedly hurled the contrail explanation at me (good-naturedly, of course ) - until he saw it, quite by chance, with his own eyes.

He made FOUR separate attempts and finally saw it for a period of 15 minutes. Whatever it is, it is not always or easily visible. It is not difficult to believe that you or anyone else would make attempts to see this object and fail to do so.

Sorry, I've known this man too long to believe that he doesn't know what he is seeing. Moreover, he didn't WANT to see anything. He wanted to believe that he was seeing a contrail, but his eyes told him otherwise.
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Hey astromut. Why would a brighter than normal star go and disappear? It's not venus! I see it one minute then it's gone. It has been happening for a few weeks now. Then only camera I have is a dslr that ain't gonna catch it
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I can think of a number of reasons an untrained observer would see a "bright star" appear to "disappear." If it's bright then you shouldn't have any trouble taking a picture of it with a dSLR. Hell, even if it's DIM you shouldn't have any trouble taking a picture of it with a dSLR. As long as it's bright enough for you to see by naked eye even the most simple setup with an SLR will work. You just need a tripod and you're all set.
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I think we're all looking for those reasons. Certainly the sudden appearance of cloud cover could make a stars vanish from sight, but that doesn't appear to be what is happening here.

I, too, would like to know what would make a star suddenly vanish, not set.
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Again, what would these reasons be?

I am not about to claim that certain atmospheric conditions would not enable such a phenomenon, but for these conditions to consistently and suddenly manifest for so many people throughout the world when viewing a covers bright star...?
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Now we are clearly getting back to “Venus-like” reports.

Just saying….
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I think it is pretty clear now that there are two (2) objects that people are describing, which may or may not be related to one another. I agree, it is confusing and inexplicable, but that does not discount the fact that people SWEAR that they are seeing a super-bright star and they SWEAR that they are seeing a contrail that does not move until the sun sets. This is a deepening mystery.
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I do not care how much you swear, swear, swear, the evidence always shows that the "object" IS moving even when those posting it claim it is not. Look at the videos. It IS moving. Contrail. As for the other, the first "star" seen at night, the brightest object out there after sunset other than the moon is Venus. I also showed that at 12:00 in this video:

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I don't know who initially posted this video, but this is not what my friend saw. Re-read what I posted. he was emphatic that it was not a contrail,
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I do not care how "emphatic" he was. Plenty of people were "emphatic" that the above was not a contrail either until I came in and showed that it was. Even the OP later admitted it when it didn't reappear on subsequent nights.
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He made FOUR separate attempts and finally saw it for a period of 15 minutes. Whatever it is, it is not always or easily visible.
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Indeed, contrails are not "always" or "always easily" visible. Thanks.
It is not difficult to believe that you or anyone else would make attempts to see this object and fail to do so.
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Your side's claim is that it's always there so it can't be a contrail, but it's not always there so you might miss it. You don't see a problem with this?
Sorry, I've known this man too long to believe that he doesn't know what he is seeing.
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But somehow he doesn't know that it's impossible for it have been ISON. Clearly, this man is a genius and a reputable source of info.
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Sorry, I've known this man too long to believe that he doesn't know what he is seeing.
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But somehow he doesn't know that it's impossible for it have been ISON. Clearly, this man is a genius and a reputable source of info.
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Actually, that's not the case. I posted this earlier. Perhaps you missed it?

"I agree, and in his follow-up post he commented that if he had not been so stunned by what he had seen it would have occurred to him immediately that the object could not possibly have been ISON because it is not naked-eye visible at this point.

But IMO this illustrates how desperately he wanted to find another explanation for his observation that was more grounded in reality than a contrail that simply did not move and faded as the sun set. His logic-based mind found it easier to accept the remote possibility that ISON may have been visible 3 -4 weeks earlier than NASA had predicted. Yes, he quickly realized that explanation was not tenable, but the point is that this man does NOT want to believe what he saw, and he is still searching for explanations that are mundane, even if improbable. We have definitely seen that before on this thread."


Maybe this has never happened to you before, but it is not uncommon for people to initially be taken aback by something and have an instinctive reaction that is replaced a split-second later by logic. You might be driving in your car blissfully unaware and suddenly see another car flying in the air towards you.

Your first thought might be, "Wow...I didn't know cars could fly...!"

But a split-second later you might come to your senses and realize, "Jesus Christ, that car is flying towards me because it just jumped off the overpass!"

I don't know, maybe you don't have any human impulses whatsoever. But that's no reason to make fun of a friend who shared his experience with me. Is the sarcasm always necessary? Really?
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Hey astromut. Why would a brighter than normal star go and disappear? It's not venus! I see it one minute then it's gone. It has been happening for a few weeks now. Then only camera I have is a dslr that ain't gonna catch it
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I can think of a number of reasons an untrained observer would see a "bright star" appear to "disappear." If it's bright then you shouldn't have any trouble taking a picture of it with a dSLR. Hell, even if it's DIM you shouldn't have any trouble taking a picture of it with a dSLR. As long as it's bright enough for you to see by naked eye even the most simple setup with an SLR will work. You just need a tripod and you're all set.
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I think we're all looking for those reasons. Certainly the sudden appearance of cloud cover could make a stars vanish from sight, but that doesn't appear to be what is happening here.

I, too, would like to know what would make a star suddenly vanish, not set.
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Again, what would these reasons be?

I am not about to claim that certain atmospheric conditions would not enable such a phenomenon, but for these conditions to consistently and suddenly manifest for so many people throughout the world when viewing a covers bright star...?
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Still waiting for the reasons...

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I have a theory. There is something strange and bright in the western sky. But this whole thread is filling up with descriptions of obvious contrails as a guise to discredit people questioning the actual object.

I live in central Indiana. I have been seeing an extremely bright star or planet around 7-9pm for a month or more. At first I thought it must be Venus or some other planet. Let it go for weeks without checking it out. Every night it is the first "star" in the sky by an hour or so. Finally I was tired of assuming what it was, so I got out the ipad starwatchers app, just so I would know for sure what it was.

To my astonishment there were no major stars or planets even in the vicinity of this extraordinarily bright object. This app in the past has been dead on accurate to where you point it. Tried it on a couple other known stars to verify that it wasn't simply mis calibrated or something, other stars were right on.

So, wtf is this enormously bright and large "first star" we've been seeing every night, and why doesn't it show up on the star app? Forget all of these obvious contrail reports, they, I believe, are serving as red herrings. What is that first really bright "star"?
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So your "ipad starwatchers app" showed no bright objects in the western sky between 7-9PM?

You'd better take it in for repairs since Venus is most definitely in the western sky during that time so your app isn't displaying the sky properly.

Why isn't your "ipad starwatchers app" displaying Venus? is what I want to know.


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Well, it does show venus, but it isn't even in the visible sky at that time. Mercury was, but it was significantly far enough away from where I was pointing. I have tried this 3 times. I will try again tomorrow.
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Your 'ipad starwatchers' app sucks then...LOL. What is the name of it? If Mercury were visible so was Venus. Mercury sets before Venus.

Venus is the brightest object in the SW sky at sunset. From my location, Venus rises at 11:01 AM and sets at 9:03 PM, so by the time you see it at sunset it has been 'out' for most of the day. It's so bright that it can even be seen in broad daylight if you know exactly where to look.....I located it last week at 2:30 PM.
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I have a theory. There is something strange and bright in the western sky. But this whole thread is filling up with descriptions of obvious contrails as a guise to discredit people questioning the actual object.

I live in central Indiana. I have been seeing an extremely bright star or planet around 7-9pm for a month or more. At first I thought it must be Venus or some other planet. Let it go for weeks without checking it out. Every night it is the first "star" in the sky by an hour or so. Finally I was tired of assuming what it was, so I got out the ipad starwatchers app, just so I would know for sure what it was.

To my astonishment there were no major stars or planets even in the vicinity of this extraordinarily bright object. This app in the past has been dead on accurate to where you point it. Tried it on a couple other known stars to verify that it wasn't simply mis calibrated or something, other stars were right on.

So, wtf is this enormously bright and large "first star" we've been seeing every night, and why doesn't it show up on the star app? Forget all of these obvious contrail reports, they, I believe, are serving as red herrings. What is that first really bright "star"?
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So your "ipad starwatchers app" showed no bright objects in the western sky between 7-9PM?

You'd better take it in for repairs since Venus is most definitely in the western sky during that time so your app isn't displaying the sky properly.

Why isn't your "ipad starwatchers app" displaying Venus? is what I want to know.


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Well, it does show venus, but it isn't even in the visible sky at that time. Mercury was, but it was significantly far enough away from where I was pointing. I have tried this 3 times. I will try again tomorrow.
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Your 'ipad starwatchers' app sucks then...LOL. What is the name of it? If Mercury were visible so was Venus. Mercury sets before Venus.

Venus is the brightest object in the SW sky at sunset. From my location, Venus rises at 11:01 AM and sets at 9:03 PM, so by the time you see it at sunset it has been 'out' for most of the day. It's so bright that it can even be seen in broad daylight if you know exactly where to look.....I located it last week at 2:30 PM.
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So your "ipad starwatchers app" showed no bright objects in the western sky between 7-9PM?

You'd better take it in for repairs since Venus is most definitely in the western sky during that time so your app isn't displaying the sky properly.

Why isn't your "ipad starwatchers app" displaying Venus? is what I want to know.


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Well, it does show venus, but it isn't even in the visible sky at that time. Mercury was, but it was significantly far enough away from where I was pointing. I have tried this 3 times. I will try again tomorrow.
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Your 'ipad starwatchers' app sucks then...LOL. What is the name of it? If Mercury were visible so was Venus. Mercury sets before Venus.

Venus is the brightest object in the SW sky at sunset. From my location, Venus rises at 11:01 AM and sets at 9:03 PM, so by the time you see it at sunset it has been 'out' for most of the day. It's so bright that it can even be seen in broad daylight if you know exactly where to look.....I located it last week at 2:30 PM.
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I don't know who initially posted this video, but this is not what my friend saw. Re-read what I posted. he was emphatic that it was not a contrail, and since he lives in a large metro area near an airport he sees contrails frequently. Again, he is a skeptic. Thought I was crazy when I described what people are seeing. Repeatedly hurled the contrail explanation at me (good-naturedly, of course ) - until he saw it, quite by chance, with his own eyes.

He made FOUR separate attempts and finally saw it for a period of 15 minutes. Whatever it is, it is not always or easily visible. It is not difficult to believe that you or anyone else would make attempts to see this object and fail to do so.

Sorry, I've known this man too long to believe that he doesn't know what he is seeing. Moreover, he didn't WANT to see anything. He wanted to believe that he was seeing a contrail, but his eyes told him otherwise.
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He also said he saw it due south, which does not match the requirements of the mystery evening object (seen in the southwest).
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But IMO this illustrates how desperately he wanted to find another explanation for his observation that was more grounded in reality
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And somehow he thought ISON was even a possible explanation given it was below the horizon? I mean, even if I jumped to the initial conclusion that it was a comet that was experiencing a massive comet Holmes like outburst, I wouldn't for a second think it was ISON since ISON is an early morning comet, not a sunset comet. It's simply in the wrong part of the sky. My initial reaction if I were to jump to that conclusion would be to measure or estimate the celestial coordinates of the "comet" and compare it against ephemeris of known comets.
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PEOPLE:


ATTENTION, PLEASE:

This Astro/Geo Stalker will NEVER leave us alone to discuss what people have legitimately been seeing.
His goals are perfectly clear. He stated them firmly: HE NEEDS TO CONVINCE YOU.

Might I suggest we try something novel here? When Astro/Geo posts - whether it is in response to yours or to another poster - DO NOT RESPOND.

DO NOT TAKE THE BAIT.

DO NOT ENGAGE.

DO NOT HONOR HIM WITH ATTENTION.

IGNORE HIM. AND CONTINUE TO IGNORE HIM.

LET'S KEEP THIS UP FOR 72 HOURS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. WITH ANY LUCK HE WILL GET TIRED OF HEARING HIMSELF TYPE.

PLEASE, FOLKS, LET'S TAKE OUR THREAD BACK. ARE YOU WITH ME??

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Picture (last week at 230pm) or it didn't happen. Shill Rules, remember?

I have a theory. There is something strange and bright in the western sky. But this whole thread is filling up with descriptions of obvious contrails as a guise to discredit people questioning the actual object.

I live in central Indiana. I have been seeing an extremely bright star or planet around 7-9pm for a month or more. At first I thought it must be Venus or some other planet. Let it go for weeks without checking it out. Every night it is the first "star" in the sky by an hour or so. Finally I was tired of assuming what it was, so I got out the ipad starwatchers app, just so I would know for sure what it was.

To my astonishment there were no major stars or planets even in the vicinity of this extraordinarily bright object. This app in the past has been dead on accurate to where you point it. Tried it on a couple other known stars to verify that it wasn't simply mis calibrated or something, other stars were right on.

So, wtf is this enormously bright and large "first star" we've been seeing every night, and why doesn't it show up on the star app? Forget all of these obvious contrail reports, they, I believe, are serving as red herrings. What is that first really bright "star"?
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So your "ipad starwatchers app" showed no bright objects in the western sky between 7-9PM?

You'd better take it in for repairs since Venus is most definitely in the western sky during that time so your app isn't displaying the sky properly.

Why isn't your "ipad starwatchers app" displaying Venus? is what I want to know.


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Well, it does show venus, but it isn't even in the visible sky at that time. Mercury was, but it was significantly far enough away from where I was pointing. I have tried this 3 times. I will try again tomorrow.
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Your 'ipad starwatchers' app sucks then...LOL. What is the name of it? If Mercury were visible so was Venus. Mercury sets before Venus.

Venus is the brightest object in the SW sky at sunset. From my location, Venus rises at 11:01 AM and sets at 9:03 PM, so by the time you see it at sunset it has been 'out' for most of the day. It's so bright that it can even be seen in broad daylight if you know exactly where to look.....I located it last week at 2:30 PM.
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Hey astromut. Why would a brighter than normal star go and disappear? It's not venus! I see it one minute then it's gone. It has been happening for a few weeks now. Then only camera I have is a dslr that ain't gonna catch it
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I can think of a number of reasons an untrained observer would see a "bright star" appear to "disappear." If it's bright then you shouldn't have any trouble taking a picture of it with a dSLR. Hell, even if it's DIM you shouldn't have any trouble taking a picture of it with a dSLR. As long as it's bright enough for you to see by naked eye even the most simple setup with an SLR will work. You just need a tripod and you're all set.
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I think we're all looking for those reasons. Certainly the sudden appearance of cloud cover could make a stars vanish from sight, but that doesn't appear to be what is happening here.

I, too, would like to know what would make a star suddenly vanish, not set.
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If you are filming a star or bright object like Venus and your video camera is on autofocus, it will sometimes look as though it is disappearing as the camera searches for a focal point.

Several years ago I noticed some stars to the north of my house that seemed to be briefly disappearing on a clear night. I kept watching because I could not explain it. Several minutes later I saw a bat that was illuminated by one of my porch lights and was able to figure out what happened. I love a mystery as much as the next guy, but I almost always am able to find an explanation and it almost always seems to be prosaic.

These are just a couple things that come to mind that people usually don't think about.
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Picture (last week at 230pm) or it didn't happen. Shill Rules, remember?

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So your "ipad starwatchers app" showed no bright objects in the western sky between 7-9PM?

You'd better take it in for repairs since Venus is most definitely in the western sky during that time so your app isn't displaying the sky properly.

Why isn't your "ipad starwatchers app" displaying Venus? is what I want to know.


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Well, it does show venus, but it isn't even in the visible sky at that time. Mercury was, but it was significantly far enough away from where I was pointing. I have tried this 3 times. I will try again tomorrow.
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Your 'ipad starwatchers' app sucks then...LOL. What is the name of it? If Mercury were visible so was Venus. Mercury sets before Venus.

Venus is the brightest object in the SW sky at sunset. From my location, Venus rises at 11:01 AM and sets at 9:03 PM, so by the time you see it at sunset it has been 'out' for most of the day. It's so bright that it can even be seen in broad daylight if you know exactly where to look.....I located it last week at 2:30 PM.
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It's already been posted in this thread.
It is precisely because it is fashionable for Americans to know no science, even though they may be well educated otherwise, that they so easily fall prey to nonsense. They thus become part of the armies of the night, the purveyors of nitwittery, the retailers of intellectual junk food, the feeders on mental cardboard, for their ignorance keeps them from distinguishing nectar from sewage. — Isaac Asimov
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Thank you, AC. Your description matches 100% what my neighbor described, so I am most interested in viewing from her home above the valley tonight to see what is up with Venus (if it is Venus). And Seth, IF it is a clear night I will definitely take pictures and post them.
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Outstanding...
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Picture (last week at 230pm) or it didn't happen. Shill Rules, remember?

Your 'ipad starwatchers' app sucks then...LOL. What is the name of it? If Mercury were visible so was Venus. Mercury sets before Venus.

Venus is the brightest object in the SW sky at sunset. From my location, Venus rises at 11:01 AM and sets at 9:03 PM, so by the time you see it at sunset it has been 'out' for most of the day. It's so bright that it can even be seen in broad daylight if you know exactly where to look.....I located it last week at 2:30 PM.
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Here you go: Thread: There REALLY IS something strange in western sky around sunset...!!! (Page 74)
It is precisely because it is fashionable for Americans to know no science, even though they may be well educated otherwise, that they so easily fall prey to nonsense. They thus become part of the armies of the night, the purveyors of nitwittery, the retailers of intellectual junk food, the feeders on mental cardboard, for their ignorance keeps them from distinguishing nectar from sewage. — Isaac Asimov
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Picture (last week at 230pm) or it didn't happen. Shill Rules, remember?

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Well, it does show venus, but it isn't even in the visible sky at that time. Mercury was, but it was significantly far enough away from where I was pointing. I have tried this 3 times. I will try again tomorrow.
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Your 'ipad starwatchers' app sucks then...LOL. What is the name of it? If Mercury were visible so was Venus. Mercury sets before Venus.

Venus is the brightest object in the SW sky at sunset. From my location, Venus rises at 11:01 AM and sets at 9:03 PM, so by the time you see it at sunset it has been 'out' for most of the day. It's so bright that it can even be seen in broad daylight if you know exactly where to look.....I located it last week at 2:30 PM.
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It's already been posted in this thread.
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LOL!

Where are the photos you promised 3rdEye?





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