Alright, I've had enough of this. I have provided tons and tons of proof that I do know how to operate telescopes and astronomical cameras just fine. Where is there any evidence to the contrary? Making ridiculous claims like "my derpa derpa program shows that Mercury is up but not Venus right now" when Mercury currently sets before Venus shows that people are clearly having problems operating their own astronomy apps. Basic calculations can show you that Mercury sets before Venus after sunset right now. The only sensible conclusion is that certain tards on this thread don't know how to operate their apps properly, let alone know to calibrate their phone's compass before trying to use it to locate a planet they can't find simply by looking at a star chart.