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The rich man and Lazarus
Beginning in Luke 16:19-31

16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously(*) every day:

*1.) entailing great expense, as from choice materials, fine work, etc.; costly: a sumptuous residence.
2.) luxuriously fine or large; lavish; splendid: a sumptuous feast.


16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom(*): the rich man also died, and was buried;

* "a synonym for the life hereafter. According to the Old Testament, when a person died he went to "be with his fathers" (Gen 15:15; 47:30; Deut. 31:16; Judg. 2:10). The patriarch Abraham was regarded as the "father" of the Jews (Luke 3:8; John 8:37-40). At death, therefore, the Jewish believer went to his forefathers or, to "father Abraham.

16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
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I recant my original post.
While I am doing more research, here is the original topic presented above.


This has ultimately been a difficult topic for me, that I haven't quite fully yet understood to this day.

I have read many arguments for, and much argument against.
Still researching.
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Its a PARABLE.

What proves this is the obvious UNreality of it.

Fort instance...

Here we have a man burning alive..and actually managing to have a sane and normal conversation with someone at a great distance.

he talks rationally and calmly when in reality you would not able to talk when burning alive..too busy screaming in insane untold agony..

And also..he would be incredibly thirsty..and yet...asks for a wet finger to suck on instead of a bucket of water.

Parables are symbolic of something..NOT litteral..THAT much is obvious.

And besides..Jesus didnt teach the hell christians do.

He does not share the same evil spirit of hate and revenge they do.

For instance he says here in the word..

Luk 9:52 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.

Luk 9:53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.

Luk 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

Luk 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

Luk 9:56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.


Now..how james and John reacted was ALL TO HUMAN..they wanted REVENGE..to see those terrible sinners BUUUURN!!!

Jesus pulled em up REAL quick.

But today....its taught and translated thusly..

Luk 9:52 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.

Luk 9:53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.

Luk 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

Luk 9:55 And Jesus turned, and COMMENDED them, and said, Ye know ye are of the same spirit as I..YES we shall BURN those sinners and watch them WRITHE..for that is my ANGER AND JUSTICE!!!.

Luk 9:56 For the Son of man is come to destroy men's lives, but NOT to save them. And they went to another village after wiping that one from the face of the earth as they deserved for not listening to Jesus.


You know..christians..the evil hell screamer ones..REALLY should re write the bible to suit their anger and hate and need for revenge..otherwise they have far too many total contradictions to deal with.

Furthermore..ULTIMATE prof from Jesus Himself that HE DOES NOT share OUR need for torture and hate and revenge...and instead is dedicated to love and mercy and correction..even on the hardest of "sinners"..

Thread: Jesus did NOT teach eternal torture. IN fact he taught the very OPPOSITE of what christians teach about hell.
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Its a PARABLE.

What proves this is the obvious UNreality of it.

Fort instance...

Here we have a man burning alive..and actually managing to have a sane and normal conversation with someone at a great distance.

he talks rationally and calmly when in reality you would not


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Furthermore..ULTIMATE prof from Jesus Himself that HE DOES NOT share OUR need for torture and hate and revenge...and instead is dedicated to love and mercy and correction..even on the hardest of "sinners"..

Thread: Jesus did NOT teach eternal torture. IN fact he taught the very OPPOSITE of what christians teach about hell.
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It *may be a parable.

A lot of what I thought I knew, I'm reexamining.
Still working on my research.
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Luk 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

Luk 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

Luk 9:56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

Whats twisted about this??
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That rich man is this very day still in torment in hell,
and he will remain there until the Great White Throne
Judgment at the end of Christ's millennial Reign on earth,
when he will be cast into the Lake of Fire
to join Lucifer and the rebel angels and all of lost humanity
for all eternity.

Lazarus is in Heaven now, as are all of the Old Testament
saints who were in Paradise, or Abraham's bosom.
When the Lord descended to Paradise He freed all the
"imprisoned" souls and took them to Heaven.
(if you can call Paradise a prison)
They are referred to as the spirits in prison because they
could not enter Heaven until Jesus finished His atoning
work on the cross.

Hell surely exists and her borders are continually enlarging.
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That rich man is this very day still in torment in hell,
and he will remain there until the Great White Throne
Judgment at the end of Christ's millennial Reign on earth,
when he will be cast into the Lake of Fire
to join Lucifer and the rebel angels and all of lost humanity
for all eternity.

Lazarus is in Heaven now, as are all of the Old Testament
saints who were in Paradise, or Abraham's bosom.
When the Lord descended to Paradise He freed all the
"imprisoned" souls and took them to Heaven.
(if you can call Paradise a prison)
They are referred to as the spirits in prison because they
could not enter Heaven until Jesus finished His atoning
work on the cross.

Hell surely exists and her borders are continually enlarging.
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Thread: DONT be fooled by THESE sorts of "Christians"...they do NOT represent the REAL God..the represent the DARK ONE..as their own words PROVE.
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That rich man is this very day still in torment in hell,
and he will remain there until the Great White Throne
Judgment at the end of Christ's millennial Reign on earth,
when he will be cast into the Lake of Fire
to join Lucifer and the rebel angels and all of lost humanity
for all eternity.

Lazarus is in Heaven now, as are all of the Old Testament
saints who were in Paradise, or Abraham's bosom.
When the Lord descended to Paradise He freed all the
"imprisoned" souls and took them to Heaven.
(if you can call Paradise a prison)
They are referred to as the spirits in prison because they
could not enter Heaven until Jesus finished His atoning
work on the cross.

Hell surely exists and her borders are continually enlarging.
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That is NOT a parable. In NO PARABLE did Jesus call out
an actual person's name.
Lazarus the beggar was NOT a fictional character created
by Jesus Christ.

If you are saved, you are washed in the Blood of the Lamb,
filled with the Holy Spirit, and your name is written in
the Lamb's Book of Life, and you will get to meet Lazarus.

If not, though you will never meet him, you will share
eternity with the rich man.
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Its all here in black and white.

If you say this is not true you are calling jesus a LIAR.

Mat 18:32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:

Mat 18:33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?

Mat 18:34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.


Notice he said "TILL" the debt was paid...clearly stating that it COULD and WOULD be paid.

Christians teach it to mean..

Mat 18:34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, and even after he should pay all that was due unto him he would never be let out and writhe in torture forever..

And again he said.

Mat 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.

Mat 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.

So what it means is to work things out NOW while you have life and an easy chance to do so.

Otherwise if you dont deal with things now while its "Easy" to do so, you will have to pay for it the hard way.

But notice he still menationed it was "UNTIL" the last farthing was paid, and that he would NOT get out "UNTIL" it was paid in full.

In other words there is a limit to the the price you pay commesurate with what you owed.

But christians teach it like this.


Mat 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, And even after you have paid you will never get out.

They like to teach the exact opposite to what Jesus said.

Its very clear.

How can anyone miss it??

But it sells books and makes money and keeps everyone in contant fear and easlily controlled.

The LAKE OF FIRE is NOT torture..its LOVE!!!!

Like flame melts the coldest of ice the lake of fire will melt and soften even the hardest of hearts.

There you will be surrounded by pure love and holiness.

This would be torment to a dark and evil heart and there they remail till all the evil in them is burt away.

Evil is death. Thats why death gets destroyed in the lake.

It cannot survive pure love.

So those in the lake will face the results of every evil action they ever committed and they will wail and gansh their teeth, as they feel the pain they caused others but not in "Revenge" state as is taught, but in a "Corrective" state.

They will finally understand at last their true state and that they are loved so deeply that they will be ashamed and eventually be purified of all their evil.

Im not talking about the catholic "Purgatory" where they are tortured for tortures sake in sadistic ways.

Its more like they get flooded and saturated by pure love itself and in their final understanding of what Love is they have all their hate and evil burnt out of them.

Because it happens in the PRESENCE of the LAMB (So much for it being a SEPERATION from him)


Rev_14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God,(WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT CORRECTION NOT POITNLESS CRUELTY) which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

Death dies because evil dies.

What is left at the end is just themselves...finally repentant and educated in the ways of mercy and love..all their hate and evil destroyed.\

The price they pay for doing things the "Hard" way is they hold themselves in everlasting contempt and shame and are never allowed into the holy city.

The will forever be on the "Outside" looking in.

But in no way screaming in torture forever.

Instead at the end when all is said and done every one of them will bow before their creator and confess "Jesus is Lord" and mean it because to do so they will have "Learnt: rightousness and been granted the Holy Spirit in order to be able to make that confession.

And that confession will be to the "Glory" of the Father.

How can the father get much "Glory" if they are all making that Meaningful heartfelt confession if they arew doing so under torture and duress?

IN the end LOVE wins because it cant LOSE.

It never fails.

And according to scripture..

Rom_10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1Jn 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

om_14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

AND..they CANT make this confession UNLESS..

1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

And to HAVE the Holy Ghost requires REPENTANCE..

And therefore ALL who confess this AT the end MUST have God dwelling iN them DUE to repentance..

Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

In other words they paid the last farthing..have learnt their lesson..have repented and are now able to make this confession and mean it.

Those whose names were not found written in the book of life and had to die the "Second death" were never allowed into the city..

Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

And after they have paid the last farthing in the lake of the fire of His pure love he will..

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

So sorrow and pain and agony and tears HAVE AN END.

Its the opposite of what is taught where they say that those very things will continue on forever in a place sustained BY God.

But at the end even the hardests of sinners will be made whole and have all their tears wiped away.

But they can never enter the city. They were not among the ones who "Took care of busines" on the way to court.

They had to pay it all in full to the last stripe..

And this includes christians who dont do what the Lord asked..they get the SAME punishment as the "Unbeleivers"

Luk 12:46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

There is no discrimination made here.

A Christian who treats his fellows badly will get the SAME punishment even if he did "Beleive"

Luk 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

Notice it didnt say "INFINITE" Stripes but "Many".

Luk 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

So once again He is clearly saying that there IS AN END and a LIMIT to how one paid their debt and that "Christians" who are ratbags to others get the SAME punishment in the SAME place as the "UNBELEIVERS"...who of course get FEWER stripes because they DID NOT KNOW.

But christians teach it to mean..once again the OPPOSITE

Luk 12:46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

Luk 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with INFINITE stripes.

Luk 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with INFINITE STRIPES as well. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

But Why did Jesus die you may ask if everyone "Repents" at the end??

He died so you would not HAVE to experience the second death.

If you want to experience it..and it probably wont be fun..keep preaching fear and terror..you know..the very OPPOSITE of what Jesus taught.

Read the post again..see what HE TAUGHT!

And if you do..you will realise that NOT EVERYONE gets to HEAVEN..as Heaven IS the New Jerusalem.

The ones that had to die the "Second death" ..are forever denied entrance or any authority in the Kindom.

They themselves are saved..but they sure did SUFFER LOSS..and will hold themselves in "Everlasting" contempt..for being so foolish as to have NOT done things the easy way when they had the chance.

1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.


Notice it said "ANY MAN"..no discrimination here again.

Notice the "FIRE"?..Thats his PURE LOVE..and it will BURN UP DROSS..and everything NOT DONE in love will BURN.

But the person..even if they were evil to the core..will lose EVERYTHING..ALL rewards..but they themselves WILL be saved..but,,are never allowed into the city..EVER.[/
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This Australian character must be one of Lucifer's top lieutenants.
In every Christian thread, he appears.
He jumps right into his father's work,
contradicting the Word of God, as Satan has done since
the Garden of Eden.

Isn't it strange that the devil hasn't changed his tactics?
He must not be a brilliant as he thinks he is.

To any non-believer, or seeker of truth:
Read the scriptures for yourself, ask God to reveal
Himself to you through His Word.

Don't get confused by the likes of Satan's little helpers
here, like Aussie.
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This Australian character must be one of Lucifer's top lieutenants.
In every Christian thread, he appears.
He jumps right into his father's work,
contradicting the Word of God, as Satan has done since
the Garden of Eden.

Isn't it strange that the devil hasn't changed his tactics?
He must not be a brilliant as he thinks he is.

To any non-believer, or seeker of truth:
Read the scriptures for yourself, ask God to reveal
Himself to you through His Word.

Don't get confused by the likes of Satan's little helpers
here, like Aussie.
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Thread: DONT be fooled by THESE sorts of "Christians"...they do NOT represent the REAL God..the represent the DARK ONE..as their own words PROVE.

Now just WHO is helping who?

Its a fruits thing.
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If the story is true and not a parable, then it's interesting that there is communication, both audible and visual between heaven and hell. Which begs the question, if you are in heaven (paradise), how can you be truly 1000 percent happy, when you can see and hear those that are in torment in hell?
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Hell can go to hell.

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Its a PARABLE.

What proves this is the obvious UNreality of it.

Fort instance...

Here we have a man burning alive..and actually managing to have a sane and normal conversation with someone at a great distance.

he talks rationally and calmly when in reality you would not able to talk when burning alive..too busy screaming in insane untold agony..

And also..he would be incredibly thirsty..and yet...asks for a wet finger to suck on instead of a bucket of water.

Parables are symbolic of something..NOT litteral..THAT much is obvious.

And besides..Jesus didnt teach the hell christians do.

He does not share the same evil spirit of hate and revenge they do.

For instance he says here in the word..

Luk 9:52 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.

Luk 9:53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.

Luk 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

Luk 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

Luk 9:56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.


Now..how james and John reacted was ALL TO HUMAN..they wanted REVENGE..to see those terrible sinners BUUUURN!!!

Jesus pulled em up REAL quick.

But today....its taught and translated thusly..

Luk 9:52 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.

Luk 9:53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.

Luk 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

Luk 9:55 And Jesus turned, and COMMENDED them, and said, Ye know ye are of the same spirit as I..YES we shall BURN those sinners and watch them WRITHE..for that is my ANGER AND JUSTICE!!!.

Luk 9:56 For the Son of man is come to destroy men's lives, but NOT to save them. And they went to another village after wiping that one from the face of the earth as they deserved for not listening to Jesus.


You know..christians..the evil hell screamer ones..REALLY should re write the bible to suit their anger and hate and need for revenge..otherwise they have far too many total contradictions to deal with.

Furthermore..ULTIMATE prof from Jesus Himself that HE DOES NOT share OUR need for torture and hate and revenge...and instead is dedicated to love and mercy and correction..even on the hardest of "sinners"..

Thread: Jesus did NOT teach eternal torture. IN fact he taught the very OPPOSITE of what christians teach about hell.
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I'm not sure which bible you are using, maybe a satanic one, but those "bible" quotes are not at all accurate.
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The rich man and Lazarus
Beginning in Luke 16:19-31

16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously(*) every day:

*1.) entailing great expense, as from choice materials, fine work, etc.; costly: a sumptuous residence.
2.) luxuriously fine or large; lavish; splendid: a sumptuous feast.


16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom(*): the rich man also died, and was buried;

* "a synonym for the life hereafter. According to the Old Testament, when a person died he went to "be with his fathers" (Gen 15:15; 47:30; Deut. 31:16; Judg. 2:10). The patriarch Abraham was regarded as the "father" of the Jews (Luke 3:8; John 8:37-40). At death, therefore, the Jewish believer went to his forefathers or, to "father Abraham.

16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
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OMG FUCKING GOD THIS GUY JUST QUOTED THE BIBLE AND PROVED HELL EXISTS!

THAT AIN'T NO FUCKING TAUTOLOGY THAT IS FUCKING BONAFIDE FUCKING PROOF YOUR ASS WILL BE RAPED IN HELL!
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Recanted post until I can do more research.
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The most serious charge the temple priests leveled against Jesus was that he was casting out demons on the Sabbath. In fact, it was the charge that got the ball rolling on the whole crucifixion thing.

For some reason performing exorcist feats of strength on the Sabbath was a big no-no in those days.

So one has to figure that if Jesus was kicking demonic ass on behalf of the possessed, then there have to be demons.

And logic tells us that if demons do in fact exist then logic insists there has to be a dimensional headquarters for demons so to speak. Namely... HELL!

Now I don't know about you but, I really, really don't want to go to hell.

I want heaven to be like a big family gathering on a nice summer evening with all the family, friends and neighbors who have helped me and loved me in this life, gathering around in the field and laughing, talking, playing, running and singing. With Jesus, God all around to laugh and bring his peace to us.

So for now, I'll just go say the Lord's Prayer again and maybe throw in Psalm 23.
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Jesus condemned the wicked sinners, but he wouldn't call fire down on them. They would go to hell of their own will, and he refused to offer them any miracle or sign, not even to convince them or save them. He explained that he spoke in parables so that they wouldn't understand and repent. He didn't want wicked people to repent.

But he offered them the sign of Jonah. After they are in hell, he will here their prayers.
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God can get you out of hell directly. But Jesus, a human and not a God, was granted the privilege of hearing your prayers and judging for himself. I don't think a Jew needs him, though many will serve him. They can pray directly to God. I don't know how many of the rest of you can.

Isn't it funny that even in the kingdom of heaven, most people won't know Jesus on sight. Only those to whom he or God reveals him. I'm sure that's the way he wants it, because he doesn't want any of you treating anyone there any less well than you would treat him. He will only reveal himself to you when you are so perfect it wouldn't make any difference, or when you really need it, from hell. You are blessed when you don't ever see him, though you believe and keep forging ahead, because you are on the right track. You don't need domination or micromanagement.
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Rats, I killed another thread.
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10/02/2013 06:38 PM
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Rats, I killed another thread.
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I think you did kill yourself with the second death.
Relax, it would not affect you till the resurrection.
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Rats, I killed another thread.
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Another Satanist hard at work, amirite?
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5 *s and green OP!!

red_heart

God's Perfect Love means He Hates Evil!
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may God bless you for your humble recantation and honesty
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This Australian character must be one of Lucifer's top lieutenants.
In every Christian thread, he appears.
He jumps right into his father's work,
contradicting the Word of God, as Satan has done since
the Garden of Eden.

Isn't it strange that the devil hasn't changed his tactics?
He must not be a brilliant as he thinks he is.

To any non-believer, or seeker of truth:
Read the scriptures for yourself, ask God to reveal
Himself to you through His Word.

Don't get confused by the likes of Satan's little helpers
here, like Aussie.
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A top lieutenant? Then they must all suck. That individual is probably the suckiest satanist I ever saw.

Btw it goes under the moniker: Aussie Hell Spammer

Btw that idiotic shit that "the lake of fire is love"
how sick and stupid can a person become?

Top lieutenant? Bwahahahaha.

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Oz
I was with you until you said

The LAKE OF FIRE is NOT torture..its LOVE!!!!
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Oz
I was with you until you said

The LAKE OF FIRE is NOT torture..its LOVE!!!!
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lmao





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