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need help because i cant afford obama(un)care(ing)
i need some advice on how one can afford $2,600 a year with an income of $33000 for 2 people. after housing and utilities and gasoline, i don't even have enough for food let alone ocare.
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Re: need help because i cant afford obama(un)care(ing)
Tell your senators and representatives
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Tell your senators and representatives
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tell them what? that i am not voting for them?
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Re: need help because i cant afford obama(un)care(ing)
i need some advice on how one can afford $2,600 a year with an income of $33000 for 2 people. after housing and utilities and gasoline, i don't even have enough for food let alone ocare.
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Could you afford it before obamacare?
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Re: need help because i cant afford obama(un)care(ing)
How will you afford showing up in the ER someday without insurance?
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if they are going to force insurance, at least give more affordable alternatives. i'd like to talk to the genius who decided these prices were acceptable.
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Re: need help because i cant afford obama(un)care(ing)
i need some advice on how one can afford $2,600 a year with an income of $33000 for 2 people. after housing and utilities and gasoline, i don't even have enough for food let alone ocare.
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Could you afford it before obamacare?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47720106


no. and that is the problem. i fall inbetween everyone's crack. in other words, i get skrewed.
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Re: need help because i cant afford obama(un)care(ing)
How will you afford showing up in the ER someday without insurance?
 Quoting: Fred 47657084


make the damn doctors lower their fvckin charges

their wages have increased 5 times
the avg consumer

if there is no cap placed on them

only the rich will have health care

or either there will be anarchy in
the streets and doctors will be
kidnapped one by one to help
the sick at gunpoint for free
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if i get insurance, then i don't eat. if i eat, then my immune system will be healthy, and i won't need insurance. decisions, decisions,...
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i need some advice on how one can afford $2,600 a year with an income of $33000 for 2 people. after housing and utilities and gasoline, i don't even have enough for food let alone ocare.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47359476


Could you afford it before obamacare?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47720106


Move to the UK, healthcare will only cost you about 800 dollars a year on those earnings.
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Re: need help because i cant afford obama(un)care(ing)
app 82% of Americans cannot afford
Obozocare

yet 82% is enough to take this
fvckin country back from the tyrants
lou la belle
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Re: need help because i cant afford obama(un)care(ing)
I am in the same boat.And I don't want to get on medicade.I just love the ones who tell you to tell your reps, and congress asshats. Do you really think that will help. If you do, then I suggest a wake-up call.And no, I won't be able to pay for an emergancy room visit either.I guess they will, just kick my ars to the curb. F##k them, is about the only choice. Honestly, my kids are grown, I've done my time. If i can't treat it myself,I guess it's time for the pine box.
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i need some advice on how one can afford $2,600 a year with an income of $33000 for 2 people. after housing and utilities and gasoline, i don't even have enough for food let alone ocare.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47359476


Could you afford it before obamacare?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47720106


Move to the UK, healthcare will only cost you about 800 dollars a year on those earnings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47720106


now that is more balanced. there wouldn't be such a stink about this if it was more affordable. why wouldn't anyone want to be covered by health insurance if they could afford it?
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Re: need help because i cant afford obama(un)care(ing)
How will you afford showing up in the ER someday without insurance?
 Quoting: Fred 47657084


make the damn doctors lower their fvckin charges

their wages have increased 5 times
the avg consumer

if there is no cap placed on them

only the rich will have health care

or either there will be anarchy in
the streets and doctors will be
kidnapped one by one to help
the sick at gunpoint for free
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47812411


doctor's office visit in Brazil - $15

doctor's office visit in America - $100

you get the point yet ???
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i need some advice on how one can afford $2,600 a year with an income of $33000 for 2 people. after housing and utilities and gasoline, i don't even have enough for food let alone ocare.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47359476


You can't this is the finial nail in the coffin 0bama's been building for the american people..
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Re: need help because i cant afford obama(un)care(ing)
I am in the same boat.And I don't want to get on medicade.I just love the ones who tell you to tell your reps, and congress asshats. Do you really think that will help. If you do, then I suggest a wake-up call.And no, I won't be able to pay for an emergancy room visit either.I guess they will, just kick my ars to the curb. F##k them, is about the only choice. Honestly, my kids are grown, I've done my time. If i can't treat it myself,I guess it's time for the pine box.
 Quoting: lou la belle 2328655


yes and amen. i eat healthy and take care of myself. i use home remedies that work very well most of the time. i have 6 years before i am eligible for medicare. so, i will take my chances and have faith that i will stay in good health.
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Re: need help because i cant afford obama(un)care(ing)
It,s all about charging you to die, With their crazy cures, that just make you sicker.I suggest you do some study in natural cures, and finding ways to survive on the least amount of money that you can. Get creative.
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Re: need help because i cant afford obama(un)care(ing)
there are enough people that run to the doctor every time they get a pimple on their ars or get a scratchy throat to cover the cost of lower premiums don't you think?
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Re: need help because i cant afford obama(un)care(ing)
How will you afford showing up in the ER someday without insurance?
 Quoting: Fred 47657084


make the damn doctors lower their fvckin charges

their wages have increased 5 times
the avg consumer

if there is no cap placed on them

only the rich will have health care

or either there will be anarchy in
the streets and doctors will be
kidnapped one by one to help
the sick at gunpoint for free
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47812411


doctor's office visit in Brazil - $15

doctor's office visit in America - $100

you get the point yet ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47812411


that lil blue pill that helps with ED

buy it in Canada for 52 cents each

buy it in America for $2.50 each

you get the point yet ???

Americans are scammed by the health industry
and they do it because puppets in gov
ALLOW them to get away with it
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Re: need help because i cant afford obama(un)care(ing)
How will you afford showing up in the ER someday without insurance?
 Quoting: Fred 47657084


are you kidding? Under all plans except the most expensive, WE THE FUCKING PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY THE CAP, CO-PAYS & AND DEDUCTIBLES BEFORE ANY "INSURANCE" KICKS IN. THERE IS NO "CARE, get it? If you think you will get any care under this FUCKING GENOCIDE BILL, THINK AGAIN. I have already lost my Ortho and GP. "SORRY, WE DON'T TAKE MILITARY INSURANCE ANYMORE". NOW MY ONLY CHOICE IS TO BUTCHERED BY MILITARY DOCTORS? NOT A FUCKING CHANCE. AND, IT TAKES MONTHS TO GET A APPOINTMENT. I now pay out-of-pocket for my kid to maintain same doctor. I am an expert on this ACA shit, go ahead and ask a question...
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I am an expert on this ACA shit, go ahead and ask a question...
 Quoting: Deidre 45587265


my question:

Are you ready for a Revolution yet ???
Fred
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How will you afford showing up in the ER someday without insurance?
 Quoting: Fred 47657084


make the damn doctors lower their fvckin charges

their wages have increased 5 times
the avg consumer

if there is no cap placed on them

only the rich will have health care

or either there will be anarchy in
the streets and doctors will be
kidnapped one by one to help
the sick at gunpoint for free
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47812411


doctor's office visit in Brazil - $15

doctor's office visit in America - $100

you get the point yet ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47812411


Hmmm it's more like 175.00 per visit.
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I am an expert on this ACA shit, go ahead and ask a question...
 Quoting: Deidre 45587265


my question:

Are you ready for a Revolution yet ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47812411

there will be no revolution. the sheep will go to slaughter. the Jews paid for their own train tickets to hell, go from there.....
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Hmmm it's more like 175.00 per visit.
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I pay 50 per visit. I do not have insurance. You would be shocked what a game insurance is. An MRI that would cost 4 grand with insurance cost me 1000 cash. It's much cheaper for me.

I don't like having to be forced away from the way I know.
All sense of separation
This is your illusion.
All sense of segregation
Just leading to confusion.
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if they are going to force insurance, at least give more affordable alternatives. i'd like to talk to the genius who decided these prices were acceptable.
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Call the White House and ask for Barak Obama.
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How will you afford showing up in the ER someday without insurance?
 Quoting: Fred 47657084


make the damn doctors lower their fvckin charges

their wages have increased 5 times
the avg consumer

if there is no cap placed on them

only the rich will have health care

or either there will be anarchy in
the streets and doctors will be
kidnapped one by one to help
the sick at gunpoint for free
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47812411


I don't know anyone who has gone to the hospital and been turned away. I also know that doctors and hospitals will discount your bill greatly (sometimes as much as 80%) if you do not have health insurance.

Obamacare will only increase health care costs since up to now there has always been two medical cost billing rates, one for those who have insurance and the other who don't. Now that everyone has insurance, the health industry will charge anything they want.

The problem with healthcare in the United States is the insurance companies and the health providers who attempt to make as much money as possible so what does Obamacare do to fix the problem? Absolute nothing except force you to buy health insurance and continue to encourage the process that is the root of the problem.

My advice to the OP, dont participate in ObamaCare as if what you say is true you can not afford it AND one thing you missed too is that on top of the price for the premiums, you must meet your deductable first before the insurance pays anything. Another thing that you may have missed is that come tax time you will get part of cost of premiums back though tax credits but again its the insurance deductable liability that will hurt you the most as that's when the private debt collectors come after you when you can't pay.

You are better off negotiating with the health provider after the fact to recieve relief after you obtain the health care you need.
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there will be no revolution. the sheep will go to slaughter.
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I don't believe that.

not all
Iron.

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renounce your citizenship. illegals get free healthcare coverage in many areas.
'Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views" - William F Buckley Jr
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I don't know anyone who has gone to the hospital and been turned away.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47805087


I have

several times

a drunk was left in the hallway of
the ER in a wheelchair, bleeding
from a head wound for 4 hrs while
I watched from across the hall
as my dad got a nice comfy room.
dad had Medicare, drunk had no insurance.
drunk finally gets up and gets a bath
room towel to wrap his head and leaves
while cussing the nurses out for taking
in 5 ER patients to available rooms.

another incident, a person comes into ER
from a vehicle accident, didn't have
insurance, ER Doc tells them to load
up the patient back into the Ambulance
and take them to another hospital 1 hr away

it happens

shit happens

another incident:
a patient comes into ER with extreme pain
in the lower abdomen, left in a room
for 6 hrs due to no insurance, patient
passes out from pain and is rushed into
surgery for appendicitis and comes within
mins of dying from a ruptured appendix.
That patient was ME !!! I lived it.
I almost died because of indiscretion
due to lack of insurance. Then the
doctor comes down to the ER and shows off
the ruptured appendix to all the ER Staff
and makes jokes about poor people.
What the doctor didn't know was that
my Aunt was one of the people hearing
his vagrant speech in the ER and she
relayed it to me.

so fvck you very much
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if they are going to force insurance, at least give more affordable alternatives. i'd like to talk to the genius who decided these prices were acceptable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47359476

The same people that wrote the law. Insurance and Pharma

NOW you Obama voters are FINALLY understand that it's
NOT the MEME
"Because he's BLACK"
that conservatives that studied and paid attention did not like the law.

It's because he's a black-hearted evil turd that cannot tell the truth and has had it out to destroy America from the beginning.

"At least give more affordable alternatives" to the AFFORDABLE Healthcare Act.
Now youwill see the Opposite world we see

Affordable Care - means EXPENSIVE and Punitive Rates

The NDAA -"defense" act jails people INDEFINITELY w/o trial

Patriot Act - calls all true patriots "terrorists"

The S.A.F.E. Act makes people unsafe in thier own homes

NAFTA "free trade" zones makes it free for them to ship our jobs offshore

We are ROFL that you are all upset about the costs.
Buckle -up. He doesn't have to run for office anymore. Now the hammer comes down on the unsuspecting liberals.

Hilarious. And that Congressman you call? He's ROFL too!
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renounce your citizenship. illegals get free healthcare coverage in many areas.
 Quoting: Iron.


and if your older, social security stops with it. maybe pension too. IRS taxes for 10 years if you leave, don't know about citizenship issues with taxes..