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Cloward-Piven Strategy (The Plan In Motion Now)

 
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Cloward-Piven Strategy (The Plan In Motion Now)
"The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty". Cloward and Piven were a married couple who were both professors at the Columbia University School of Social Work. The strategy was formulated in a May 1966 article in liberal[1] magazine The Nation titled "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty".[2]

The two stated that many Americans who were eligible for welfare were not receiving benefits, and that a welfare enrollment drive would strain local budgets, precipitating a crisis at the state and local levels that would be a wake-up call for the federal government, particularly the Democratic Party. There would also be side consequences of this strategy, according to Cloward and Piven. These would include: easing the plight of the poor in the short-term (through their participation in the welfare system); shoring up support for the national Democratic Party then-splintered by pluralistic interests (through its cultivation of poor and minority constituencies by implementing a national "solution" to poverty); and relieving local governments of the financially and politically onerous burdens of public welfare (through a national "solution" to poverty)"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Pretty amazing how exactly this strategy is playing out. We're so beyond doomed because there's no winning this from the Republican's perspective. Either they give in and fund Obama-care, and ultimately get kicked out of office in 2014 by their conservative base who have abandoned them along with the low information voters who took the media's claim that the Republicans are responsible for the shut down, or they refuse to raise the debt ceiling and open the government back up and the entire system collapses. At the end of the day, Obama-care will get funded, and when it does, the economy will be destroyed. Cloward-Piven strategy.
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yeah can see that in my own country before long nice find and well recognised the situation your country is in interesting read btw


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It's really amazing when you think about it, how far gone the whole situation really is. We've been playing this "too big to fail" game for so long, that now a "reset" means a crash so hard that the public will demand the government step in with a socialist/nationalist system to ease the pain, and the powers that be, the Cloward/Pivon folks, will be all to eager to push that Marxist government into existence.

If we fight it and the crash happens, we get Cloward/Pivon. If we keep kicking the can down the road, we continue getting ever greater encroachments on our freedoms until the system becomes unsustainable, then the crash happens and we get Cloward/Pivon. It's overwhelming.
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It's really amazing when you think about it, how far gone the whole situation really is. We've been playing this "too big to fail" game for so long, that now a "reset" means a crash so hard that the public will demand the government step in with a socialist/nationalist system to ease the pain, and the powers that be, the Cloward/Pivon folks, will be all to eager to push that Marxist government into existence.

If we fight it and the crash happens, we get Cloward/Pivon. If we keep kicking the can down the road, we continue getting ever greater encroachments on our freedoms until the system becomes unsustainable, then the crash happens and we get Cloward/Pivon. It's overwhelming.
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It's all by design and they all know exactly what they are doing! I would like to know what they were all promised in return of following through with the agenda.
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Someone who gets it.
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It's really amazing when you think about it, how far gone the whole situation really is. We've been playing this "too big to fail" game for so long, that now a "reset" means a crash so hard that the public will demand the government step in with a socialist/nationalist system to ease the pain, and the powers that be, the Cloward/Pivon folks, will be all to eager to push that Marxist government into existence.

If we fight it and the crash happens, we get Cloward/Pivon. If we keep kicking the can down the road, we continue getting ever greater encroachments on our freedoms until the system becomes unsustainable, then the crash happens and we get Cloward/Pivon. It's overwhelming.
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you got it OP

You are not alone, keep the message up.

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this whole thread is worth reading Thread: Have you ever heard of Saul Alinsky ? He wrote a book called rules for radicals! It shaped our current sitting Presidents entire life ! (Page 3)

This one below was my best summary I think

Thread: IS AMERICA IN THE MIDDLE OF A COUP D'ETAT ???? (Page 19)

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This needs to be pinned for debate!!manhole5
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Who does not see this strategy playing out right now?
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It's really amazing when you think about it, how far gone the whole situation really is. We've been playing this "too big to fail" game for so long, that now a "reset" means a crash so hard that the public will demand the government step in with a socialist/nationalist system to ease the pain, and the powers that be, the Cloward/Pivon folks, will be all to eager to push that Marxist government into existence.

If we fight it and the crash happens, we get Cloward/Pivon. If we keep kicking the can down the road, we continue getting ever greater encroachments on our freedoms until the system becomes unsustainable, then the crash happens and we get Cloward/Pivon. It's overwhelming.
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The article linked below was published BEFORE Obama was elected to his first term.

It delineates his overarching goal: accomplishment of massive nation-crushing manufactured crisis, graphically portrays his vast web of uber-extreme political connections, and outlines the centerpiece of his whole approach, the Cloward-Piven crisis strategy.

Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

Published Sept. 28, 2008

[link to www.americanthinker.com]
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Note also the GLP thread linked below that was created Oct. 22, 2008.

The OP of that thread predicted the Obama Administration's policies goals/policies would be accomplished by embracing the Cloward-Piven Strategy of Orchestrated Crisis.

Thread: The Cloward-Piven Strategy of Orchestrated Crisis: An Obama Administration Blueprint!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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All these lefties are going to be sorely pissed when they figure out they have been used as usefull idiots by the Luciferians, who have arranged an Albert Pike three WW's style collapse rather than a socialist utopia.
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All these lefties are going to be sorely pissed when they figure out they have been used as usefull idiots by the Luciferians, who have arranged an Albert Pike three WW's style collapse rather than a socialist utopia.
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This is so true.. But none of the Lefties even know who Pike Was and what he did. The ignorance on the Left is tremendous.
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All these lefties are going to be sorely pissed when they figure out they have been used as usefull idiots by the Luciferians, who have arranged an Albert Pike three WW's style collapse rather than a socialist utopia.
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This is so true.. But none of the Lefties even know who Pike Was and what he did. The ignorance on the Left is tremendous.
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I speak to (university educated) lefties here in the UK sometimes - not a fucking one has ever known who Cloward and Piven were nor Alynski - these people are absolute fucking morons!
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All these lefties are going to be sorely pissed when they figure out they have been used as usefull idiots by the Luciferians, who have arranged an Albert Pike three WW's style collapse rather than a socialist utopia.
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They are too dumb, ignorant, apathetic and downright stupid to ever be able to realize what happened. They have no clue and they never will.
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Why weren't these slime bags charged with sedition?
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BECK RIGHT AGAIN neener2
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It's all by design and they all know exactly what they are doing! I would like to know what they were all promised in return of following through with the agenda.
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That's the funny but tragic part of it that the minions don't get, because they aren't themselves students of history.... the minions get lined up and shot by their leaders once they're finished with them. When the leaders watch these minions sell out and destroy their neighbors, families, and brethren, do they think these sickening minions will stop if given more power? Hahaha, no, the leaders who control the minions will just destroy the minions once they've served their purpose.

All those who serve the machine of death eventually get destroyed by it themselves.
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Good post OP
"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
Senator Robert F. Kennedy, June 6 1966 (South Africa address)
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I hear you, OP, but the minute Obama tries to circumvent
Congress by invoking the 14th Amendment and claiming that he
cannot let the US "default" is the minute the jig is up for him.


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This is not hurting the republicans. That is msm spin.
The majority are with the republicans on this one. If they stand firm, and shut down the individual mandate or all of Nobamacare, they will be in good shape for re-election.

It's the dems who should start packing.
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A basic Income Is What We Need.....To all that oppose , You Draconic In Nature and An Obstacle to success .
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It would be much easier if they just returned the value of our dollar from the current worth of 3 cents, to one dollar. Then everyone could afford a home, car, and insurance paid in full.
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fuck money.
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This should be super pinned permanently.

Everything that is happening now is meant to crash the system. The end game is we will all be dependent on the government.
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For those who want to know more about C-P, Alinsky and more, this is a good read: [link to www.discoverthenetworks.org]

This website which shows the connections between Obama, Hillary, Alinksky, Ayers, is pretty eye opening.
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This should be super pinned permanently.

Everything that is happening now is meant to crash the system. The end game is we will all be dependent on the government.
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this^^^

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