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Any Holy Sirit it filled Christians here?

 
Holy_Diver

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I'm not asking anyone to deny anything.

I am suggesting that all you "spirit filled" people out there check yourselves and make sure this stuff is coming from a place of Humility and faith, and not ego and expectation and the desire to feel special.

Maybe you need it to feel saved? I don't.
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I'm not asking anyone to deny anything.

I am suggesting that all you "spirit filled" people out there check yourselves and make sure this stuff is coming from a place of Humility and faith, and not ego and expectation and the desire to feel special.

Maybe you need it to feel saved? I don't.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


But you yourself deny the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and seek to cause many to do the same.

You make light of that most holy thing.
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I'm not asking anyone to deny anything.

I am suggesting that all you "spirit filled" people out there check yourselves and make sure this stuff is coming from a place of Humility and faith, and not ego and expectation and the desire to feel special.

Maybe you need it to feel saved? I don't.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


But you yourself deny the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and seek to cause many to do the same.

You make light of that most holy thing.
 Quoting: Aman 43094160


Read my original statement.

I believe the Holy Spirit works with people at the behest of Christ.

I don't believe that people acting all high on the lord are genuine.
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OP, I am Christian but I do not adhere to this notion of people being "spirit filled"

I do believe that Jesus Christ works within people to change them via the Holy Spirit.

But I hear more and more young Christians running around claiming to be filled with Holy Spirit like it's some sort of drug you get for aligning with Christ.

It's the Emperor's New Clothes. It is what offshoot cults of Christianity use to create powerful expectations in young, confused and naïve people to get their devotion and money.

Your gift, when you accept Christ, is salvation. You don't need anything else, and God provides everything you need.

The Faith in Christ is not for the Material World, but for the next.

Our bodies, even saved, are not proper recepticals to receive any sort of Holy Spirit or Jesus Christ himself. Jesus doesn't come to you, you come to him. You reach out for saving and he throws you a line and asks you to wait, wait for death or the second coming, whichever happens first.

Meanwhile, see if you can't convince others to take the rescue as well.

------

The reason so many Christians fail and turn away and become bitter is because of this Satanic notion of "filled with the spirit" and other such hype built up within these churches.

A new convert gets Baptized and does one of two things:

1. Acts like they felt something change them, running around acting all high on God and making themselves look a bit foolish in the process.

2. Don't feel any different, think that "God" must be fake, and become life-long atheists or Hedonists or both.


Some of the people running around like this are actually upper-level cult members playing the part for the sake of the converts, so they keep trying to emulate them thus staying in the system tithing more money.

It's all based on naivety and opportunism.

The real experience of Christ is your faith in Christ, that you are saved and that Christ himself is real, alive and keeping his word.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver
Aman
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OP, I am Christian but I do not adhere to this notion of people being "spirit filled"

I do believe that Jesus Christ works within people to change them via the Holy Spirit.

But I hear more and more young Christians running around claiming to be filled with Holy Spirit like it's some sort of drug you get for aligning with Christ.

It's the Emperor's New Clothes. It is what offshoot cults of Christianity use to create powerful expectations in young, confused and naïve people to get their devotion and money.

Your gift, when you accept Christ, is salvation. You don't need anything else, and God provides everything you need.

The Faith in Christ is not for the Material World, but for the next.

Our bodies, even saved, are not proper recepticals to receive any sort of Holy Spirit or Jesus Christ himself. Jesus doesn't come to you, you come to him. You reach out for saving and he throws you a line and asks you to wait, wait for death or the second coming, whichever happens first.

Meanwhile, see if you can't convince others to take the rescue as well.

------

The reason so many Christians fail and turn away and become bitter is because of this Satanic notion of "filled with the spirit" and other such hype built up within these churches.

A new convert gets Baptized and does one of two things:

1. Acts like they felt something change them, running around acting all high on God and making themselves look a bit foolish in the process.

2. Don't feel any different, think that "God" must be fake, and become life-long atheists or Hedonists or both.


Some of the people running around like this are actually upper-level cult members playing the part for the sake of the converts, so they keep trying to emulate them thus staying in the system tithing more money.

It's all based on naivety and opportunism.

The real experience of Christ is your faith in Christ, that you are saved and that Christ himself is real, alive and keeping his word.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver

 Quoting: Amn 43094160


Ok, here is your first post where in the first two sentences you DENY the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

You say, the spirit works with people, but Christ says the spirit shall be IN you.

I stand by all I have said... You deceive at every turn.
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I'm not asking anyone to deny anything.

I am suggesting that all you "spirit filled" people out there check yourselves and make sure this stuff is coming from a place of Humility and faith, and not ego and expectation and the desire to feel special.

Maybe you need it to feel saved? I don't.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


But you yourself deny the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and seek to cause many to do the same.

You make light of that most holy thing.
 Quoting: Aman 43094160


Read my original statement.

I believe the Holy Spirit works with people at the behest of Christ.

I don't believe that people acting all high on the lord are genuine.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


EXACTLY!

Thats what ive been trying to get across in more detail.

The ones who CLAIM to get "Pissed" on the Holy Spirit and sell it like a "Drug" dealer does..with books and sermons and big fancy tortonto blessing Benny Hinn type shows are NOT genuine..and the oneswho peddle it ARE EVIL and blapheme the sweet gentle Spirit of the Lord with every show..every book..every word..that they say.

Its also the SAME one who push the other lies..of pre trib rapture and that God will torture billions in hell forever..in his great mercy..done because "Love never fails"..

They have taken everything holy and good and loving and turned it UPSIDE DOWN..and crapped all over the Lord in the process..because THATS WHAT SATAN DOES!

ITS ALL he ever does..
And he LOVES to appeal to self and ego and flesh.

And thats all those hell screaming rapture addicted holy spirit abuseres ever FOCUS on..SELF and FUN and FEAR and DOOM and DEATH..

All of them with the exception of a very FEW of them have these traits in common.

1) They are ALL convinced THEY are right and all the others are wrong.

2)They are all certain..and voice this much and as often as thay can..that the ones who are "Wrong" will be tortured forever by whatever brand of bi polar sadistic god they worship.

3)They all use fear and terror to control their members
EG:-"Do as this law/teaching/guru/pastor/book/priest/sermon ect suggests or you will be cursed/burned alive forever/smitten/come under demonic attack/end up possessed/ ect.

4)They are all about CONTROL..control of your money..of your mind..of your actions/words/life/emotions/opinions and they all impose guilt and fear as "punishment" if you dont tow the line.

5)They are all about money..it always comes down to CASH..and if you dont hand it over they label you a "God robber"..you are robbing God..and thus come under the punishments/threats made in point 3.

6)They all use "LOVE" as the bait to get you in..mixed with "Fear" of some sort of terrible DOOM if you dont join them. Then once they have you the LOVE stops..and the DOOM increases..till you are left a mindless fear controlled zombie..arrogant and proud and self righteous..and the victim..who then being fully "Indoctrinated" after a time...then beleives point 1 completely..and proceeds to inflict steps 2 to 5 on other prospective victims.

Any religion or creed thast uses these techniques are opertaing under the precepts of what you would term "Darkness"..or "Evil" because evil, by its very nature, runs and feeds and grows stronger on fear and control.
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I'm not asking anyone to deny anything.

I am suggesting that all you "spirit filled" people out there check yourselves and make sure this stuff is coming from a place of Humility and faith, and not ego and expectation and the desire to feel special.

Maybe you need it to feel saved? I don't.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


But you yourself deny the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and seek to cause many to do the same.

You make light of that most holy thing.
 Quoting: Aman 43094160


Read my original statement.

I believe the Holy Spirit works with people at the behest of Christ.

I don't believe that people acting all high on the lord are genuine.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


EXACTLY!

Thats what ive been trying to get across in more detail.

The ones who CLAIM to get "Pissed" on the Holy Spirit and sell it like a "Drug" dealer does..with books and sermons and big fancy tortonto blessing Benny Hinn type shows are NOT genuine..and the oneswho peddle it ARE EVIL and blapheme the sweet gentle Spirit of the Lord with every show..every book..every word..that they say.

Its also the SAME one who push the other lies..of pre trib rapture and that God will torture billions in hell forever..in his great mercy..done because "Love never fails"..

They have taken everything holy and good and loving and turned it UPSIDE DOWN..and crapped all over the Lord in the process..because THATS WHAT SATAN DOES!

ITS ALL he ever does..
And he LOVES to appeal to self and ego and flesh.

And thats all those hell screaming rapture addicted holy spirit abuseres ever FOCUS on..SELF and FUN and FEAR and DOOM and DEATH..

All of them with the exception of a very FEW of them have these traits in common.

1) They are ALL convinced THEY are right and all the others are wrong.

2)They are all certain..and voice this much and as often as thay can..that the ones who are "Wrong" will be tortured forever by whatever brand of bi polar sadistic god they worship.

3)They all use fear and terror to control their members
EG:-"Do as this law/teaching/guru/pastor/book/priest/sermon ect suggests or you will be cursed/burned alive forever/smitten/come under demonic attack/end up possessed/ ect.

4)They are all about CONTROL..control of your money..of your mind..of your actions/words/life/emotions/opinions and they all impose guilt and fear as "punishment" if you dont tow the line.

5)They are all about money..it always comes down to CASH..and if you dont hand it over they label you a "God robber"..you are robbing God..and thus come under the punishments/threats made in point 3.

6)They all use "LOVE" as the bait to get you in..mixed with "Fear" of some sort of terrible DOOM if you dont join them. Then once they have you the LOVE stops..and the DOOM increases..till you are left a mindless fear controlled zombie..arrogant and proud and self righteous..and the victim..who then being fully "Indoctrinated" after a time...then beleives point 1 completely..and proceeds to inflict steps 2 to 5 on other prospective victims.

Any religion or creed thast uses these techniques are opertaing under the precepts of what you would term "Darkness"..or "Evil" because evil, by its very nature, runs and feeds and grows stronger on fear and control.
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So what! If the blind lead the blind they shall both fall into the ditch!

What you do here is cast doubt upon all those who may be coming to the truth and turning many away.

The Holy Spirit dwells IN all those who believe and he knows who they are.

Are you better than the reapers unto whom The Lord of the harvest said, "let the, both grow together until the harvest"?
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OP, I am Christian but I do not adhere to this notion of people being "spirit filled"

I do believe that Jesus Christ works within people to change them via the Holy Spirit.

But I hear more and more young Christians running around claiming to be filled with Holy Spirit like it's some sort of drug you get for aligning with Christ.

It's the Emperor's New Clothes. It is what offshoot cults of Christianity use to create powerful expectations in young, confused and naïve people to get their devotion and money.

Your gift, when you accept Christ, is salvation. You don't need anything else, and God provides everything you need.

The Faith in Christ is not for the Material World, but for the next.

Our bodies, even saved, are not proper recepticals to receive any sort of Holy Spirit or Jesus Christ himself. Jesus doesn't come to you, you come to him. You reach out for saving and he throws you a line and asks you to wait, wait for death or the second coming, whichever happens first.

Meanwhile, see if you can't convince others to take the rescue as well.

------

The reason so many Christians fail and turn away and become bitter is because of this Satanic notion of "filled with the spirit" and other such hype built up within these churches.

A new convert gets Baptized and does one of two things:

1. Acts like they felt something change them, running around acting all high on God and making themselves look a bit foolish in the process.

2. Don't feel any different, think that "God" must be fake, and become life-long atheists or Hedonists or both.


Some of the people running around like this are actually upper-level cult members playing the part for the sake of the converts, so they keep trying to emulate them thus staying in the system tithing more money.

It's all based on naivety and opportunism.

The real experience of Christ is your faith in Christ, that you are saved and that Christ himself is real, alive and keeping his word.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


LIAR ALERT LIAR ALERT
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Yeah, I'm currently watching this happen to a friend of mine, in his early 40's.

He's a bit sheltered and a touch aspergers and this non-denominational "hey man, bring your guitar and hang with the spirit" type church that attracts all the young people he works with they're eating him right up.

He's handed a stack of books to read, and now he's power-quoting things from this drivel every day, multiple times and convinced that the spirit is alive in the church because someone gave him a random free watch, was directed by "The Lord" of course, and now he feels all special.

The single most high-on-ether one of the bunch that I know that go there is a young single-mom hot chick. She's rollin' in the spirit at all times on facebook and the whole thing...she's the bell of the ball and no doubt inadvertently selling this "feeling" to the rest of them like the beast using carol anne to draw people to him in Poltergeist.

It's sickening and yet there's no getting through to them.

2000 years of Christianity and this is what it's become?

putin
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 Quoting: natalie


That's what you've come loaded with?

You're who I'm talking about.
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Yeah, I'm currently watching this happen to a friend of mine, in his early 40's.

He's a bit sheltered and a touch aspergers and this non-denominational "hey man, bring your guitar and hang with the spirit" type church that attracts all the young people he works with they're eating him right up.

He's handed a stack of books to read, and now he's power-quoting things from this drivel every day, multiple times and convinced that the spirit is alive in the church because someone gave him a random free watch, was directed by "The Lord" of course, and now he feels all special.

The single most high-on-ether one of the bunch that I know that go there is a young single-mom hot chick. She's rollin' in the spirit at all times on facebook and the whole thing...she's the bell of the ball and no doubt inadvertently selling this "feeling" to the rest of them like the beast using carol anne to draw people to him in Poltergeist.

It's sickening and yet there's no getting through to them.

2000 years of Christianity and this is what it's become?

putin
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


I should also add that a lot of these upstarts promote marijuana tolerance and alcohol consumption, thus alleviating the need for these kids to change anything about their hedonistic lifestyles.
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Yeah, I'm currently watching this happen to a friend of mine, in his early 40's.

He's a bit sheltered and a touch aspergers and this non-denominational "hey man, bring your guitar and hang with the spirit" type church that attracts all the young people he works with they're eating him right up.

He's handed a stack of books to read, and now he's power-quoting things from this drivel every day, multiple times and convinced that the spirit is alive in the church because someone gave him a random free watch, was directed by "The Lord" of course, and now he feels all special.

The single most high-on-ether one of the bunch that I know that go there is a young single-mom hot chick. She's rollin' in the spirit at all times on facebook and the whole thing...she's the bell of the ball and no doubt inadvertently selling this "feeling" to the rest of them like the beast using carol anne to draw people to him in Poltergeist.

It's sickening and yet there's no getting through to them.

2000 years of Christianity and this is what it's become?

putin
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Yes, Just as in jesus's day; I can hear him saying, "2000 years since Egypt and this is what it has become"?

Why do you deny other indwelling of the Holy Spirit?

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 Quoting: natalie


That's what you've come loaded with?

You're who I'm talking about.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Actually I don't play the building game
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What's a building game?

You called me a liar, so let's hear what you've got?

I'm guessing you're empty handed, but I could be wrong.
So, let's hear your truth.
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What's a building game?

You called me a liar, so let's hear what you've got?

I'm guessing you're empty handed, but I could be wrong.
So, let's hear your truth.
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I meant "the building" game. The church doesn't go to church. Seriously. It's all carnal understanding which is no understanding at all. The blind lead the blind. I am saying God isn't dead
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What's a building game?

You called me a liar, so let's hear what you've got?

I'm guessing you're empty handed, but I could be wrong.
So, let's hear your truth.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


I meant "the building" game. The church doesn't go to church. Seriously. It's all carnal understanding which is no understanding at all. The blind lead the blind. I am saying God isn't dead
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I don't think anyone here is saying God is Dead.
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Satan is attacking but he is powerless against they who have the spirit of prophecy.

The winds are blowing, the storm is nigh, yet it shall not touch those in whom The Lord delights!

Rage on oh evil one. Let loose thy fiery darts; have they ever overcome those in whom is the spirit of Jesus Christ?

Nay but rage on and gather thy troop for the time is at hand!
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Hello South Africa!

Aren't you scared of the magic computer box that talks and shows moving pictures?

Isn't it full of demons and pornography?

Lordy! Lordy!


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But you yourself deny the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and seek to cause many to do the same.

You make light of that most holy thing.
 Quoting: Aman 43094160


Read my original statement.

I believe the Holy Spirit works with people at the behest of Christ.

I don't believe that people acting all high on the lord are genuine.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


EXACTLY!

Thats what ive been trying to get across in more detail.

The ones who CLAIM to get "Pissed" on the Holy Spirit and sell it like a "Drug" dealer does..with books and sermons and big fancy tortonto blessing Benny Hinn type shows are NOT genuine..and the oneswho peddle it ARE EVIL and blapheme the sweet gentle Spirit of the Lord with every show..every book..every word..that they say.

Its also the SAME one who push the other lies..of pre trib rapture and that God will torture billions in hell forever..in his great mercy..done because "Love never fails"..

They have taken everything holy and good and loving and turned it UPSIDE DOWN..and crapped all over the Lord in the process..because THATS WHAT SATAN DOES!

ITS ALL he ever does..
And he LOVES to appeal to self and ego and flesh.

And thats all those hell screaming rapture addicted holy spirit abuseres ever FOCUS on..SELF and FUN and FEAR and DOOM and DEATH..

All of them with the exception of a very FEW of them have these traits in common.

1) They are ALL convinced THEY are right and all the others are wrong.

2)They are all certain..and voice this much and as often as thay can..that the ones who are "Wrong" will be tortured forever by whatever brand of bi polar sadistic god they worship.

3)They all use fear and terror to control their members
EG:-"Do as this law/teaching/guru/pastor/book/priest/sermon ect suggests or you will be cursed/burned alive forever/smitten/come under demonic attack/end up possessed/ ect.

4)They are all about CONTROL..control of your money..of your mind..of your actions/words/life/emotions/opinions and they all impose guilt and fear as "punishment" if you dont tow the line.

5)They are all about money..it always comes down to CASH..and if you dont hand it over they label you a "God robber"..you are robbing God..and thus come under the punishments/threats made in point 3.

6)They all use "LOVE" as the bait to get you in..mixed with "Fear" of some sort of terrible DOOM if you dont join them. Then once they have you the LOVE stops..and the DOOM increases..till you are left a mindless fear controlled zombie..arrogant and proud and self righteous..and the victim..who then being fully "Indoctrinated" after a time...then beleives point 1 completely..and proceeds to inflict steps 2 to 5 on other prospective victims.

Any religion or creed thast uses these techniques are opertaing under the precepts of what you would term "Darkness"..or "Evil" because evil, by its very nature, runs and feeds and grows stronger on fear and control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47863307


So what! If the blind lead the blind they shall both fall into the ditch!

What you do here is cast doubt upon all those who may be coming to the truth and turning many away.

The Holy Spirit dwells IN all those who believe and he knows who they are.

Are you better than the reapers unto whom The Lord of the harvest said, "let the, both grow together until the harvest"?
 Quoting: Aman 43094160


To immunise people AGAINST deception is just as vital as telling the truth.

Jesus did this with the pharisees..he PUBLICLY put doubt in peoples minds about them and their evil system of control.

He did not stand idly by and let the pharisees get away with their lies.

He confronted them in public over and over and over again..culminating in his epic rant of "WOE to you HYPOCRITES"...on the week they had him killed.

In case you did not notce (And I KNOW yu have because they last post you wrote said it..WE ARE NOW at the time of the harvest)..its time to pull up the wheat AND the tares.

The wheat will be taken into the barn..but FIRST he said to RIP OUT THE TARES>

That time is NOW.

NOW is the time the tares get exposed..NOW is the time of the harvest.

Do not stand idly by and let them kill any more sheep.
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 Quoting: natalie


That's what you've come loaded with?

You're who I'm talking about.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


SO TRUE MY FRIEND hf
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Read my original statement.

I believe the Holy Spirit works with people at the behest of Christ.

I don't believe that people acting all high on the lord are genuine.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


EXACTLY!

Thats what ive been trying to get across in more detail.

The ones who CLAIM to get "Pissed" on the Holy Spirit and sell it like a "Drug" dealer does..with books and sermons and big fancy tortonto blessing Benny Hinn type shows are NOT genuine..and the oneswho peddle it ARE EVIL and blapheme the sweet gentle Spirit of the Lord with every show..every book..every word..that they say.

Its also the SAME one who push the other lies..of pre trib rapture and that God will torture billions in hell forever..in his great mercy..done because "Love never fails"..

They have taken everything holy and good and loving and turned it UPSIDE DOWN..and crapped all over the Lord in the process..because THATS WHAT SATAN DOES!

ITS ALL he ever does..
And he LOVES to appeal to self and ego and flesh.

And thats all those hell screaming rapture addicted holy spirit abuseres ever FOCUS on..SELF and FUN and FEAR and DOOM and DEATH..

All of them with the exception of a very FEW of them have these traits in common.

1) They are ALL convinced THEY are right and all the others are wrong.

2)They are all certain..and voice this much and as often as thay can..that the ones who are "Wrong" will be tortured forever by whatever brand of bi polar sadistic god they worship.

3)They all use fear and terror to control their members
EG:-"Do as this law/teaching/guru/pastor/book/priest/sermon ect suggests or you will be cursed/burned alive forever/smitten/come under demonic attack/end up possessed/ ect.

4)They are all about CONTROL..control of your money..of your mind..of your actions/words/life/emotions/opinions and they all impose guilt and fear as "punishment" if you dont tow the line.

5)They are all about money..it always comes down to CASH..and if you dont hand it over they label you a "God robber"..you are robbing God..and thus come under the punishments/threats made in point 3.

6)They all use "LOVE" as the bait to get you in..mixed with "Fear" of some sort of terrible DOOM if you dont join them. Then once they have you the LOVE stops..and the DOOM increases..till you are left a mindless fear controlled zombie..arrogant and proud and self righteous..and the victim..who then being fully "Indoctrinated" after a time...then beleives point 1 completely..and proceeds to inflict steps 2 to 5 on other prospective victims.

Any religion or creed thast uses these techniques are opertaing under the precepts of what you would term "Darkness"..or "Evil" because evil, by its very nature, runs and feeds and grows stronger on fear and control.
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So what! If the blind lead the blind they shall both fall into the ditch!

What you do here is cast doubt upon all those who may be coming to the truth and turning many away.

The Holy Spirit dwells IN all those who believe and he knows who they are.

Are you better than the reapers unto whom The Lord of the harvest said, "let the, both grow together until the harvest"?
 Quoting: Aman 43094160


To immunise people AGAINST deception is just as vital as telling the truth.

Jesus did this with the pharisees..he PUBLICLY put doubt in peoples minds about them and their evil system of control.

He did not stand idly by and let the pharisees get away with their lies.

He confronted them in public over and over and over again..culminating in his epic rant of "WOE to you HYPOCRITES"...on the week they had him killed.

In case you did not notce (And I KNOW yu have because they last post you wrote said it..WE ARE NOW at the time of the harvest)..its time to pull up the wheat AND the tares.

The wheat will be taken into the barn..but FIRST he said to RIP OUT THE TARES>

That time is NOW.

NOW is the time the tares get exposed..NOW is the time of the harvest.

Do not stand idly by and let them kill any more sheep.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47863307


But in fighting and exposing them never did Jesus speak against the truth.

Truth is some hear are speaking against the indwelling of the Holy Spirit saying, "the spirit works with you but is not in you", which is nothing but a lie from satan himself.

The Holy Spirit does indeed dwell IN you.

If, in trying to expose the tares you uproot some sprouts what damage have you done? Whom do you work for? The disciples wanted to call fire down from heaven to expose and punish the tares yet what did Jesus say to them?
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Did you get your New Jerusalem calendar yet?

Thu Sept 7/19/13
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Did you get your New Jerusalem calendar yet?

Thu Sept 7/19/13
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How do you know this us the calendar used by those in the new Jerusalem?
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So you have received the viegiveness of sin and you sin no more?
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I cannot sin because I do his will, and because the seed remains and shall grow when it falls into the earth and dies.
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Wow now I know not only are you a blood washed child of god but you have indeed moved beyond the cross and received the Holey Spirit... No one will admit what you just have if they don't have the Spirit... The blood is so valuable and it is the first and most important step to salvation for no one shall come to the Father if not through the son
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Any man who says, "I have no sin", is a liar.

The first and most important is to realize this, without which knowledge no man would seek him. This is the whole of the law.

And what is his will?

To believe on him whom he hath sent.
 Quoting: Aman 43094160

True that now read 1 Peter heading be holy. When Jesus save you of your sin he did so completely and for you never to sin again also important to know that he gave us a new commandment , to love, so sin is not what it use to be the new sin is hate those who bare the fruits of the spirt cannot hate for a good tree cannot bare bad fruit and a bad tree cannot bare god fruit so be holy
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Did you get your New Jerusalem calendar yet?

Thu Sept 7/19/13
 Quoting: son of God New Jerusalem Russ


Yes but you know we cannot share .....yet
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Let's chat
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Hello South Africa!

Aren't you scared of the magic computer box that talks and shows moving pictures?

Isn't it full of demons and pornography?

Lordy! Lordy!


popesheeppope
 Quoting: IntoTheLight


You don't bare the fruit of the spirit ....your loss. Ps I am on my iPad now will use my laatelier later mabe hook it up to my big screen but first sit at the pool basking ..... Or did you think I was hurdling cattle near my mud hut
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I'm not asking anyone to deny anything.

I am suggesting that all you "spirit filled" people out there check yourselves and make sure this stuff is coming from a place of Humility and faith, and not ego and expectation and the desire to feel special.

Maybe you need it to feel saved? I don't.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


The spirit inhabits humility you must be saved then or just I'll informed
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What's a building game?

You called me a liar, so let's hear what you've got?

I'm guessing you're empty handed, but I could be wrong.
So, let's hear your truth.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


I meant "the building" game. The church doesn't go to church. Seriously. It's all carnal understanding which is no understanding at all. The blind lead the blind. I am saying God isn't dead
 Quoting: natalie


I don't think anyone here is saying God is Dead.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


That ALL you've been saying, if you'll look closely.


What is 'blasphemy' of the Holy Spirit?
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I should also add that a lot of these upstarts promote marijuana tolerance and alcohol consumption, thus alleviating the need for these kids to change anything about their hedonistic lifestyles.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Wisdom through hedonism is universal and consistently effective.

We are fish-out-of-water.





GLP