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Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress?

 
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According to sources in Congress and the White House,Barack Obama is preparing to usurp the Constitutional power of Congress to control the purse strings of the federal government. The Obama plan entails using the 14th Amendment of the Constitution to bypass Congress on the upcoming debt ceiling debate and unilaterally raise the debt ceiling without the approval of Congress.

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He better be careful with that 14th amendment. The media might accidentally stumble upon something he wouldn't like.

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
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Re: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress?
According to sources in Congress and the White House,Barack Obama is preparing to usurp the Constitutional power of Congress to control the purse strings of the federal government. The Obama plan entails using the 14th Amendment of the Constitution to bypass Congress on the upcoming debt ceiling debate and unilaterally raise the debt ceiling without the approval of Congress.

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I doubt it
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Let him try.
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Very interesting. I like the part about how it could lead to impeachment proceedings against the president.



Thus, the use of the 14th Amendment to excuse such actions on Obama's part would be illegal and an impeachable offense. Yet he is being urged, according to Levin, to break the law by advisers inside and outside of government, such as Bill Clinton, Dick Durbin, Nancy Pelosi, liberal law professors, and members of liberal think tanks.

It is also safe to assume that he is being urged to break the law by George Soros, given that the last time this subject was raised a couple of years ago, it was Soros who encouraged Obama to bypass Congress entirely, set the Constitution aside, and do whatever he wants.

Levin maintains that this would create a Constitutional crisis of historic proportions, one that could lead the House to initiate impeachment proceedings against the president.
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who uses a word like usurp? stupid to use a word that 90% of people never even heard of.
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who uses a word like usurp? stupid to use a word that 90% of people never even heard of.
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So those of us who cared to become educated should dumb ourselves down for the likes of you? Go buy a dictionary. You may be able to understand the "big words" if you learn to use it.

Twit.
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It is only a matter of time that America becomes a dictatorship...

Or a puppet Dictatorial mock congress and senate... well seems like we are already there most times...
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Re: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress?
who uses a word like usurp? stupid to use a word that 90% of people never even heard of.
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You never heard of it because you were too busy diddling yourself in a spirited game of pocket pool in class instead of paying attention. Not our fault you're an ignorant moron. Go find a forum more suited to your intellect. Better yet, go play in the freeway. Dumbass.
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who uses a word like usurp? stupid to use a word that 90% of people never even heard of.
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Are you joking? You'd have to be a complete dumbass to not know what the word "usurp" means.
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Userp Bro?
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who uses a word like usurp? stupid to use a word that 90% of people never even heard of.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45081800


So those of us who cared to become educated should dumb ourselves down for the likes of you? Go buy a dictionary. You may be able to understand the "big words" if you learn to use it.

Twit.
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Now, now, it is incumbent upon those learned amongst us to eschew declaiming untoward umbrage when engaged in discourse with the inarticulate. Preferable it is, en excelsis, to enjoin and encourage their journey towards wisdom and knowledge, rather than partake of the easy, low-hanging pleasure of----

No, you're right. "Twit" works perfectly. You called it!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45081800


If that's your evening pleasure, you must be smiling.

Others prefer to make substantive contributions, but whatever. I'll admit to occasionally falling for trolls. Still, that makes you about as welcome as a drunk heckler at a comedy club (or worse - at a serious think tank).

"Twit" it is then!

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Re: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress?
who uses a word like usurp? stupid to use a word that 90% of people never even heard of.
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Usurp are a fucking retard.
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That's even worse. It means your life is so meaningles that you get your rocks off trolling forum discussions. Wonder how fumny it'll be when your computer doesn't work because you have no power and your food ran out a week ago when the economy collapses. Stupid assholes like you with nothing going for them but video games, neck tatoos, and meth helped get us into this mess. Enjoy your enslavement dickweed.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45081800


If that's your evening pleasure, you must be smiling.

Others prefer to make substantive contributions, but whatever. I'll admit to occasionally falling for trolls. Still, that makes you about as welcome as a drunk heckler at a comedy club (or worse - at a serious think tank).

"Twit" it is then!
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ok enough I do have a few mental issues perhaps I should stay off this site....apologies
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Re: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress?
Obama will avoid all this and Order Treasury to Mint a Trillion Dollar Coin.

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Re: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress?
who uses a word like usurp? stupid to use a word that 90% of people never even heard of.
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Re: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress?
Okay...


Either he does this and raises the debt ceiling on his "own" or they all cave and raise it anyway - and then print like a mother fucker, leading eventually to hyperinflation. All debt is hyperinflated away.


OR, and I like this one... !!!

(highly condensed)


They default on all foreign debt and print to monetize domestic debt*. Gold, worldwide, is revalued multiples of its current price to recapitalize everything. Gold is used from then on, at its new price, to settle international trade imbalances and to pay for imports - At this stage confidence in "the full faith and credit" of the United States will be fucked... with only gold left to settle such international business:-)


Given time and with a (temporarily severed) head, the States will eventually start manufacturing again and do what America does best. Grow, innovate, and succeed but at a sustainable/natural rate.

... and don't think for a minute the US doesn't have the gold they say they do. It may be (and is!!!) leased, but a lease means shit when you can settle in cash... and they will.



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Doing this could potentially open up a can of worms because there is a school of thought that the 14th amendment was never actually ratified.
A flag flown upside down is a symbol of a country in distress. As a result of the many traitors and enemies inside our own government and the many unconstitutional acts, legislation and atrocities passed and/or committed against our lives, liberty and property, as well as a reckless foreign policy meant to enrich and empower an already wealthy group of 'elites' while wreaking havoc around the globe and committing atrocities against large numbers of innocent peoples in the name of 'spreading democracy', the United States is no longer a free country and the lives of its citizens as well as the lives of our brothers and sisters around the globe, are in dire danger and distress.
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Re: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress?
its true!!! FROM THE MARK LEVIN SHOW.. 10-3 2013... Obama is planning to bypass congress.he will be a KING!!.. and change the USA forever... listen to this .. start at 29mins thru-52 mins WOW!!!! plan on the end of the world as you now know it!! [link to www.stationcaster.com]

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who uses a word like usurp? stupid to use a word that 90% of people never even heard of.
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Usurp is a very common word. Morons like yourself, of course, have never heard of it.
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who uses a word like usurp? stupid to use a word that 90% of people never even heard of.
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Usurp is a very common word. Morons like yourself, of course, have never heard of it. Disclaimer: in this instance I have to use the actual spelling of moron.
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I thought you where allowed to own sniper rifles over there enough said
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Re: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress?
its true!!! FROM THE MARK LEVIN SHOW.. 10-3 2013... Obama is planning to bypass congress.he will be a KING!!.. and change the USA forever... listen to this .. start at 29mins thru-52 mins WOW!!!! plan on the end of the world as you now know it!! [link to www.stationcaster.com]
 Quoting: zetuff


THIS IS YOUR OCTOBER SUPRIZE!!!!!!!GOODBYE CONGRESS..
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He better be careful with that 14th amendment. The media might accidentally stumble upon something he wouldn't like.

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
 Quoting: Zedakah


So, in otherwords, its up to the 535...

And if the 535 refuse?
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Okay...


Either he does this and raises the debt ceiling on his "own" or they all cave and raise it anyway - and then print like a mother fucker, leading eventually to hyperinflation. All debt is hyperinflated away.


OR, and I like this one... !!!

(highly condensed)


They default on all foreign debt and print to monetize domestic debt*. Gold, worldwide, is revalued multiples of its current price to recapitalize everything. Gold is used from then on, at its new price, to settle international trade imbalances and to pay for imports - At this stage confidence in "the full faith and credit" of the United States will be fucked... with only gold left to settle such international business:-)


Given time and with a (temporarily severed) head, the States will eventually start manufacturing again and do what America does best. Grow, innovate, and succeed but at a sustainable/natural rate.

... and don't think for a minute the US doesn't have the gold they say they do. It may be (and is!!!) leased, but a lease means shit when you can settle in cash... and they will.




 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45522689


If Obamacare is an example of anything, it is this: confidence in US FFC has already been abandoned. Time to sell dollars and buy the gold mine with whatever is left.
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Thread: Ron Paul: Not Raising Debt Ceiling Won't Put U.S. In Default

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its true!!! FROM THE MARK LEVIN SHOW.. 10-3 2013... Obama is planning to bypass congress.he will be a KING!!.. and change the USA forever... listen to this .. start at 29mins thru-52 mins WOW!!!! plan on the end of the world as you now know it!! [link to www.stationcaster.com]
 Quoting: zetuff


THIS IS YOUR OCTOBER SUPRIZE!!!!!!!GOODBYE CONGRESS..
 Quoting: zetuff


THIS SHIT IS REAL... IF CONGRESS VOTES TO IMPEACH OBAMA.. IT WILL GO TO THE SENATE,, WHICH WILL BE REJECTED B/C THE DEMOCRATS HAS THE VOTES..... OHH SHIT THIS IS REALLY GOING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A KING WILL BE BORN!!

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Re: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress?
According to sources in Congress and the White House,Barack Obama is preparing to usurp the Constitutional power of Congress to control the purse strings of the federal government. The Obama plan entails using the 14th Amendment of the Constitution to bypass Congress on the upcoming debt ceiling debate and unilaterally raise the debt ceiling without the approval of Congress.

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There is nothing in the 14th amendment that would allow him to do any thing of that nature. There is a lot that could get him in a hold lot of trouble for trying.

I am reading it right now and it sure has nothing about him taking control of anything.

I don't thing he could take control except in a rebellion but congress would be involved.
Nothing about money is involved or the debt. Congress is the ones that control the bank or payments.

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