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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17852775 United States 10/06/2013 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If that's your evening pleasure, you must be smiling. Others prefer to make substantive contributions, but whatever. I'll admit to occasionally falling for trolls. Still, that makes you about as welcome as a drunk heckler at a comedy club (or worse - at a serious think tank). "Twit" it is then! ok enough I do have a few mental issues perhaps I should stay off this site....apologies Bob, is that you? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45522689 Canada 10/06/2013 04:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45522689 Either he does this and raises the debt ceiling on his "own" or they all cave and raise it anyway - and then print like a mother fucker, leading eventually to hyperinflation. All debt is hyperinflated away. OR, and I like this one... !!! (highly condensed) They default on all foreign debt and print to monetize domestic debt*. Gold, worldwide, is revalued multiples of its current price to recapitalize everything. Gold is used from then on, at its new price, to settle international trade imbalances and to pay for imports - At this stage confidence in "the full faith and credit" of the United States will be fucked... with only gold left to settle such international business:-) Given time and with a (temporarily severed) head, the States will eventually start manufacturing again and do what America does best. Grow, innovate, and succeed but at a sustainable/natural rate. ... and don't think for a minute the US doesn't have the gold they say they do. It may be (and is!!!) leased, but a lease means shit when you can settle in cash... and they will. If Obamacare is an example of anything, it is this: confidence in US FFC has already been abandoned. Time to sell dollars and buy the gold mine with whatever is left. The loss of confidence I always speak of is a slightly different animal. A much more dangerous one. Obamacare is a symptom of something else, and another conversation. Sell dollars, yes! and they all will;-) A gold mine aint gonna do shit for you unless you're a sovereign entity/country. But do buy gold, by all means. Watch all countries on this earth tax every gold mine... as in; us miners will get paid for our cost of extraction + a small fee:-) or some will outright nationalize the gold from domestic mines. |
zetuff User ID: 32530940 United States 10/06/2013 04:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its true!!! FROM THE MARK LEVIN SHOW.. 10-3 2013... Obama is planning to bypass congress.he will be a KING!!.. and change the USA forever... listen to this .. start at 29mins thru-52 mins WOW!!!! plan on the end of the world as you now know it!! [link to www.stationcaster.com] Quoting: zetuff THIS IS YOUR OCTOBER SUPRIZE!!!!!!!GOODBYE CONGRESS.. THIS SHIT IS REAL... IF CONGRESS VOTES TO IMPEACH OBAMA.. IT WILL GO TO THE SENATE,, WHICH WILL BE REJECTED B/C THE DEMOCRATS HAS THE VOTES..... OHH SHIT THIS IS REALLY GOING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A KING WILL BE BORN!! PLEASE TAKE 10MINS OUT YOUR LIFE AND LISTEN TO .. MARK LEVIN. ITS ALL TRUE.. ITS OBAMAS PLAN. TAKE THE PURSE AWAY FROM CONGRESS..OCTOBER 18TH.. I find life very interesting.. |
R.P. McMurphy User ID: 45419220 United States 10/06/2013 05:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He and his ilk are going to keep pushing and pushing... and buy aren't they going to be surprised when the ramification finally hit. "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37475791 United States 10/06/2013 05:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very interesting. I like the part about how it could lead to impeachment proceedings against the president. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 842983 Thus, the use of the 14th Amendment to excuse such actions on Obama's part would be illegal and an impeachable offense. Yet he is being urged, according to Levin, to break the law by advisers inside and outside of government, such as Bill Clinton, Dick Durbin, Nancy Pelosi, liberal law professors, and members of liberal think tanks. It is also safe to assume that he is being urged to break the law by George Soros, given that the last time this subject was raised a couple of years ago, it was Soros who encouraged Obama to bypass Congress entirely, set the Constitution aside, and do whatever he wants. Levin maintains that this would create a Constitutional crisis of historic proportions, one that could lead the House to initiate impeachment proceedings against the president. I doubt it would get that far. A physical removal by the people would be most likely |
zetuff User ID: 32530940 United States 10/06/2013 05:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very interesting. I like the part about how it could lead to impeachment proceedings against the president. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 842983 Thus, the use of the 14th Amendment to excuse such actions on Obama's part would be illegal and an impeachable offense. Yet he is being urged, according to Levin, to break the law by advisers inside and outside of government, such as Bill Clinton, Dick Durbin, Nancy Pelosi, liberal law professors, and members of liberal think tanks. It is also safe to assume that he is being urged to break the law by George Soros, given that the last time this subject was raised a couple of years ago, it was Soros who encouraged Obama to bypass Congress entirely, set the Constitution aside, and do whatever he wants. Levin maintains that this would create a Constitutional crisis of historic proportions, one that could lead the House to initiate impeachment proceedings against the president. I doubt it would get that far. A physical removal by the people would be most likely THIS SHIT IS REAL... IF CONGRESS VOTES TO IMPEACH OBAMA.. IT WILL GO TO THE SENATE,, WHICH WILL BE REJECTED B/C THE DEMOCRATS HAS THE VOTES..... OHH SHIT THIS IS REALLY GOING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A KING WILL BE BORN!! I find life very interesting.. |
Shit Just Got Real User ID: 35523483 United States 10/06/2013 05:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | who uses a word like usurp? stupid to use a word that 90% of people never even heard of. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45081800 So those of us who cared to become educated should dumb ourselves down for the likes of you? Go buy a dictionary. You may be able to understand the "big words" if you learn to use it. Twit. Now, now, it is incumbent upon those learned amongst us to eschew declaiming untoward umbrage when engaged in discourse with the inarticulate. Preferable it is, en excelsis, to enjoin and encourage their journey towards wisdom and knowledge, rather than partake of the easy, low-hanging pleasure of---- No, you're right. "Twit" works perfectly. You called it! I thought it comparatively serendipitous and very enthralling in the way you satirized that confrere. I take my chapeau off to you my compatriot. Ohh and usurp = To seize and hold (the power or rights of another). Example: by force or without legal authority: to take over or occupy without right: to take the place of another without legal authority STEAL / The Power of Congress....... “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” – Nikola Tesla “What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses. There is no matter.” – Albert Einstein |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46733749 United States 10/06/2013 05:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doing this could potentially open up a can of worms because there is a school of thought that the 14th amendment was never actually ratified. Quoting: dawnie It wasn't, but we've clearly been stuck with it ever since then. It's what the new Constitutional "equal protection" shit is based on, which has forced all the affirmative action, fair housing, all that nonsense. Also the anchor baby stuff is based on the 14th Amendment, even though that was not the intended meaning when it was written. We've clearly been stuck with it. If we could have gotten rid of it, we would have long ago. |
Hitokiri User ID: 34845042 United States 10/06/2013 05:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He better be careful with that 14th amendment. The media might accidentally stumble upon something he wouldn't like. Quoting: Zedakah Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability. Lol! You said "the media." "We learn from history that we learn nothing from history." - George Bernard Shaw |
RelentlessDespot Abrasive Fuck User ID: 19712778 United States 10/06/2013 05:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fucking guy doesn't even have a birth certificate... has a social security number of a dead guy from Connecticut. You think he gives a fuck about risking impeachment??? Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
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zetuff User ID: 32530940 United States 10/06/2013 06:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He will not be impeached. Even if he somehow finagles a way to illegally raise the debt limit, it won't matter. Quoting: RelentlessDespot The fucking guy doesn't even have a birth certificate... has a social security number of a dead guy from Connecticut. You think he gives a fuck about risking impeachment??? BINGO WE HAVE A WINNER!! Last Edited by zetuff on 10/06/2013 06:28 AM I find life very interesting.. |
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zetuff User ID: 32530940 United States 10/06/2013 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its true!!! FROM THE MARK LEVIN SHOW.. 10-3 2013... Obama is planning to bypass congress.he will be a KING!!.. and change the USA forever... listen to this .. start at 29mins thru-52 mins WOW!!!! plan on the end of the world as you now know it!! [link to www.stationcaster.com] Quoting: zetuff THIS IS YOUR OCTOBER SUPRIZE!!!!!!!GOODBYE CONGRESS.. THIS SHIT IS REAL... IF CONGRESS VOTES TO IMPEACH OBAMA.. IT WILL GO TO THE SENATE,, WHICH WILL BE REJECTED B/C THE DEMOCRATS HAS THE VOTES..... OHH SHIT THIS IS REALLY GOING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A KING WILL BE BORN!! PIN THIS,, ITS THE MOST IMPORTANT POST OF THE YEAR...OCTOBER18TH.. ITS OVER!! I find life very interesting.. |
Northman User ID: 1299792 Puerto Rico 10/06/2013 07:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you didn't learn anything else under Bush you should have learned that the president can assume ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY under the guise of national security and there's nothing congress or anyone else can do about it. As for the legitimacy of the national security issue, that is for the President to decide, and don't forget, he "IS THE DECIDER." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47957750 Australia 10/06/2013 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | who uses a word like usurp? stupid to use a word that 90% of people never even heard of. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45081800 Are you joking? You'd have to be a complete dumbass to not know what the word "usurp" means. Even out here in the outback in the back of beyond we know what it means. |
dawnie User ID: 46617826 United States 10/06/2013 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doing this could potentially open up a can of worms because there is a school of thought that the 14th amendment was never actually ratified. Quoting: dawnie It wasn't, but we've clearly been stuck with it ever since then. It's what the new Constitutional "equal protection" shit is based on, which has forced all the affirmative action, fair housing, all that nonsense. Also the anchor baby stuff is based on the 14th Amendment, even though that was not the intended meaning when it was written. We've clearly been stuck with it. If we could have gotten rid of it, we would have long ago. yep, sorta like taxation of all citizens, which is also unconstitutional but good luck trying to get out of it! My point was that if he went that route, someone or some group would no doubt bring up this dirty little secret. A flag flown upside down is a symbol of a country in distress. As a result of the many traitors and enemies inside our own government and the many unconstitutional acts, legislation and atrocities passed and/or committed against our lives, liberty and property, as well as a reckless foreign policy meant to enrich and empower an already wealthy group of 'elites' while wreaking havoc around the globe and committing atrocities against large numbers of innocent peoples in the name of 'spreading democracy', the United States is no longer a free country and the lives of its citizens as well as the lives of our brothers and sisters around the globe, are in dire danger and distress. |
071676 User ID: 41309091 United States 10/06/2013 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He will not be impeached. Even if he somehow finagles a way to illegally raise the debt limit, it won't matter. Quoting: RelentlessDespot The fucking guy doesn't even have a birth certificate... has a social security number of a dead guy from Connecticut. You think he gives a fuck about risking impeachment??? Sound questions that need sound answers. If Congress can ever their shit together and acually prove themselves useful by impeaching Obama, it wouldn't matter if the Senate refuses to vote for impeachment or not. It simply comes down to violations of law, in which the House has legal rights to force press charges against Obama that would require a dicision from the Supreme Court. Then it will not matter what the Senate decides, it will be a matter of law. The Supreme Court will then have to decide if the charges are in fact valid, and if valid, is Obama guilty. The Supreme Court does not have to decide whether the Senate has right to refuse, but whether the law was upheld or violated. By taking this route, the House then bypasses the Senate and brings charges directly to the Supreme Court to decide. The Supreme Court can only decide if the charges are valid and Obama removed by Constitutional law,(this also removes Biden, and places the speaker of the House in the White House) or the charges are invalid and Obama is crowned as King of Noamerica. |
SteamrolledGobias User ID: 46787476 United States 10/06/2013 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He will not be impeached. Even if he somehow finagles a way to illegally raise the debt limit, it won't matter. Quoting: RelentlessDespot The fucking guy doesn't even have a birth certificate... has a social security number of a dead guy from Connecticut. You think he gives a fuck about risking impeachment??? yep agreed he knows he can push limits literally until there is no food being delivered anymore. once people are going hungry and their children are starving... shit hits the fan. nothing and I honestly believe NOTHING before this will cause anyone to revolt. it will require everyone's pensions to be looted, the economy to crash, and food to stop being delivered before we as a society do anything. sad but true. |
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zetuff User ID: 32530940 United States 10/06/2013 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its true!!! FROM THE MARK LEVIN SHOW.. 10-3 2013... Obama is planning to bypass congress.he will be a KING!!.. and change the USA forever... listen to this .. start at 29mins thru-52 mins WOW!!!! plan on the end of the world as you now know it!! [link to www.stationcaster.com] Quoting: zetuff THIS IS YOUR OCTOBER SUPRIZE!!!!!!!GOODBYE CONGRESS.. THIS SHIT IS REAL... IF CONGRESS VOTES TO IMPEACH OBAMA.. IT WILL GO TO THE SENATE,, WHICH WILL BE REJECTED B/C THE DEMOCRATS HAS THE VOTES..... OHH SHIT THIS IS REALLY GOING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A KING WILL BE BORN!! WAKE UP U STUPID FUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I find life very interesting.. |
zetuff User ID: 32530940 United States 10/06/2013 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WAKE UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GOD DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I find life very interesting.. |
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