If You're In The Stock Market...GET OUT NOW!!! (Grande Finale Sourced Update) | |
Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 10/06/2013 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what the meeting Obama had last Thursday with the heads of all the big banks was about... Time to call in favors, dumps stock and help me out on this debt ceiling fight!!! "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 10/06/2013 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In a bad depression, metals can become meaningless. if someone has a few loaves of bread, he wants to trade for something he can use. Not little chunks of metal. Flight to safety factor in metals combined with a rapidly devaluing dollar will mean a moonshot for PM's... A moonshot preceded by a panic sell. At first people will dump what they have from fear. After a bit, they will realize gold is truely the only safe haven and people will flood cash into the PM markets, causing a very large price appreciation. There may be some dumping for liquidity at first, but I really think the volume of the market will pick that up...don't look for a move below 1200 in gold and 20 in silver... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 10/06/2013 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think all stocks will take a hit initially, once PM's begin to move up, mining stocks will perform better than retail, that's for sure... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31521896 United States 10/06/2013 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Long story short, I have a good source that believes, through both meetings he attended on Friday and from market moves that are currently occurring, that the big banks will begin crashing the stock market next week to put pressure on Congress to Raise the Debt Ceiling without any effect on Obamacare... Quoting: Saddletramp If you're in, get out or go short!!! I'm so sure, I sold 37,000 shares. The numbers have been fraudulently held high to make losses greater. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47801017 United States 10/06/2013 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Long story short, I have a good source that believes, through both meetings he attended on Friday and from market moves that are currently occurring, that the big banks will begin crashing the stock market next week to put pressure on Congress to Raise the Debt Ceiling without any effect on Obamacare... Quoting: Saddletramp If you're in, get out or go short!!! I'm so sure, I sold 37,000 shares. The numbers have been fraudulently held high to make losses greater. I sold 37,002 shares!! OF TWTRQ!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47060380 Canada 10/06/2013 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are set to Realease all those 100 Dollar Bills on Tuesday that hae been sitting there for quite somtime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47060380 How many Millions of them...? This has to be all about timing. Whats up with that. I heard some others give some stern warnings about this event. What say you Saddle Tramp...? Billions of Dollar worth sitting in vaults for 3 years now!!! Will the circulation release be delayed because of the Govt. Shutdown?!?!? I dunno, it's still on at this point from what I understand. One thing I do know is they need to provide some cash liquidity to these banks if the Stock Market does crash and people start pulling their money out of banks!!! This is a game looking for a specific end result...? They did not just wait for 3 years for no reason. And newly redesigned money too boot. Come on. There is somthing else at stake here and going on. Who really gets this money...? Come on. Follow all those brand new crispy BILLIONS. Where's it going...? |
beeches User ID: 28167778 United States 10/06/2013 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But, what to do? I lost almost everything after the economy went to shite in 2008. I lost my job and had to use my investments and savings to support my family. I'm working again, doing well, but my savings are small and I have no stock investments. My real fear is inflation killing what I've been able to get back. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46659857 Metals? That's the common sense hedge for hard times, but if a super-depression comes, metals aren't so liquid. I'm stumped... because something bad IS coming. you are ahead of the game. At least you know the rules. Being stumped right now is smart. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
wastedrockranger User ID: 11757208 United States 10/06/2013 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31894440 2000 aircraft and 10000 tanks with no money for petrol or salaries to pay their operators you've reached a possible 1991 Russian type moment. Don't fool yourself, they are still funding that shit. Yep after federal pensions 401k's will keep them going for a little while ^^^THIS^^^ And they have already raided the Federal Pensions, that was the "Extraordinary Measures" they've been talking about for the last six months!!! The Govt Pensions are broke on Oct 17, 2013... Yea I don't think they're done looting the us yet. Also the more we find out about obamacare the more it becomes apparent that it's all about control. They will know everything about us and the irs will make sure of compliance, whether from penalties or submission. Either way it will make us poorer. I also believe what you were told about obummer acting alone to raise the debt ceiling. I think that's the goal to take more power. None of this is an accident and is all moving them toward their goal. |
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Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 10/06/2013 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Long story short, I have a good source that believes, through both meetings he attended on Friday and from market moves that are currently occurring, that the big banks will begin crashing the stock market next week to put pressure on Congress to Raise the Debt Ceiling without any effect on Obamacare... Quoting: Saddletramp If you're in, get out or go short!!! I'm so sure, I sold 37,000 shares. The numbers have been fraudulently held high to make losses greater. I sold 37,002 shares!! OF TWTRQ!! That's my favorite financial story of the year!!! Last Edited by Saddletramp on 10/06/2013 03:05 PM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 10/06/2013 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are set to Realease all those 100 Dollar Bills on Tuesday that hae been sitting there for quite somtime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47060380 How many Millions of them...? This has to be all about timing. Whats up with that. I heard some others give some stern warnings about this event. What say you Saddle Tramp...? Billions of Dollar worth sitting in vaults for 3 years now!!! Will the circulation release be delayed because of the Govt. Shutdown?!?!? I dunno, it's still on at this point from what I understand. One thing I do know is they need to provide some cash liquidity to these banks if the Stock Market does crash and people start pulling their money out of banks!!! This is a game looking for a specific end result...? They did not just wait for 3 years for no reason. And newly redesigned money too boot. Come on. There is somthing else at stake here and going on. Who really gets this money...? Come on. Follow all those brand new crispy BILLIONS. Where's it going...? Lots of it will probably be going overseas. Many of the Central Banks have been complaining they haven't had enough cash for currency exchanges...there was even a lawsuit over it. Lots of electronic currency floating around, actual cash has been rare... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47966457 United States 10/06/2013 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Long story short, I have a good source that believes, through both meetings he attended on Friday and from market moves that are currently occurring, that the big banks will begin crashing the stock market next week to put pressure on Congress to Raise the Debt Ceiling without any effect on Obamacare... Quoting: Saddletramp If you're in, get out or go short!!! So are we just talking a scare to get their way,or the great depression era variety crash? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47976358 United States 10/06/2013 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Congress will roll over in a matter of minutes if the Stock Market triggers the circuit breaker at 10%... Quoting: Saddletramp I don't expect it to occur until Tuesday, but if the S&P Downgrades tonight it could happen Monday Morning... All I will say is keep your powder dry, because you'll have a chance to make 10% or more in a single day if you hit it right. Pick wisely and time it right. You know the game... Don't take delivery on PM, just dump the paper early and let the stock ride this next wave. Buy all the stocks on the cheap. Fundamentally, the US economy is roaring hot in some places and ice cold in others. You simply need to know cycles. There is a 100% chance Uncle Ben will inflate the dollar to buy some time starting in December. He'll buy 18-24 months according to Thomson and Warren with a 3% token which equates to ~6% for the consumer as gas and oil rise. Then comes the switchback. I propose the EURO will make the news again early next year as the unwind over there begins once again. Greece will begin to "pay back" with perpetual ponzi bonds, or those that are 50 to 100 years in maturity. But alas, 'til never happen. There will be no takers and once again Germany is stuck paying their bill, which they gladly will. Then comes Spain. Whoops! Everybody got so caught up in fake BS on Syria and gov't shutdown that they forgot about the biggest single threat to the EU and subsequently the world. Old George already played the piper, he's gone to retire . Sounds like 2011 all over again? Sort of. The old boys have been promised at least 20 years before the plug is pulled. They chose not to try something different until they're all 6 feet under. Just play the game and enjoy the ride. |
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Canuck_Hillbilly User ID: 31039155 Canada 10/06/2013 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Long story short, I have a good source that believes, through both meetings he attended on Friday and from market moves that are currently occurring, that the big banks will begin crashing the stock market next week to put pressure on Congress to Raise the Debt Ceiling without any effect on Obamacare... Quoting: Saddletramp If you're in, get out or go short!!! I'm so sure, I sold 37,000 shares. The numbers have been fraudulently held high to make losses greater. I sold 37,002 shares!! OF TWTRQ!! That's my favorite financial story of the year!!! Shit! We missed out there, didn't we? lol I'm buying physical stock in lead and brass EDIT and Hops! Don't forget hops! Last Edited by Canuck_Hillbilly on 10/06/2013 03:23 PM My opinions are just that. My opinions! Don't like them? Tough! |
Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 10/06/2013 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Long story short, I have a good source that believes, through both meetings he attended on Friday and from market moves that are currently occurring, that the big banks will begin crashing the stock market next week to put pressure on Congress to Raise the Debt Ceiling without any effect on Obamacare... Quoting: Saddletramp If you're in, get out or go short!!! So are we just talking a scare to get their way,or the great depression era variety crash? If the S&P Downgrades (my source didn't say anything about this, but it is rumored) then it will be really bad. If it's just the banks selling on the stock market it will probably be a 10 to 20% move downward, and that would be the immediate extent of it. "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47060380 Canada 10/06/2013 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Saddletramp Billions of Dollar worth sitting in vaults for 3 years now!!! Will the circulation release be delayed because of the Govt. Shutdown?!?!? I dunno, it's still on at this point from what I understand. One thing I do know is they need to provide some cash liquidity to these banks if the Stock Market does crash and people start pulling their money out of banks!!! This is a game looking for a specific end result...? They did not just wait for 3 years for no reason. And newly redesigned money too boot. Come on. There is somthing else at stake here and going on. Who really gets this money...? Come on. Follow all those brand new crispy BILLIONS. Where's it going...? Lots of it will probably be going overseas. Many of the Central Banks have been complaining they haven't had enough cash for currency exchanges...there was even a lawsuit over it. Lots of electronic currency floating around, actual cash has been rare... Cash for Currency Exchanges...? LOL Billions needed for that Ha...? What are they or whom are they buying with all that printed money this time...? |
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Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 10/06/2013 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Royal Bank of Canada doesn't see that obvious triple top in that chart?!?!? No wonder they're in Canada... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Carol B. User ID: 45126742 United States 10/06/2013 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a list of etf's that short the dow... [link to etf.stock-encyclopedia.com] Prayer.....the world's first wireless connection. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2924495 United States 10/06/2013 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He also doesn't believe there will be any default on the U.S. Debt at this time, Obama apparently assured the Banking Heads at his meeting on Thursday that he would use his "Emergency Powers" to raise the debt ceiling by unilateral action to pay the debt, if necessary of course... Quoting: Saddletramp :eyeroll: Of course if it does default what will happen in the bond and currency markets will make the stockmarket irrelevant by comparison. True---bond prices will plummet, interest rates will soar, and the trillion dollar derivatives positions out there will cause cascading collapses in businesses and banks worldwide. This will result in bank holidays and panic as people realize that they cannot get their money out of the bank. Anyone with a mortgage will not be able to pay this mortgage off, and their home will be confiscated by the banks that own the privately held Federal Reserve. |
Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 10/06/2013 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Saddle, what do you think of the FAZ and would you buy it right now? Im thinking of using some cash I have waiting and rolling the dice on your prediction??? Quoting: Drunk Uncle Short ETF...might not be bad, I haven't really researched that though. I mostly play commodities and indexes... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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Drunk Uncle User ID: 33731653 United States 10/06/2013 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Saddle, what do you think of the FAZ and would you buy it right now? Im thinking of using some cash I have waiting and rolling the dice on your prediction??? Quoting: Drunk Uncle Short ETF...might not be bad, I haven't really researched that though. I mostly play commodities and indexes... Will you check it out for me real quick, its at $30 a share right now, but it looks like it was at $30,000 a share back in 08/09 when the market was tanking. Could that be accurate or is there a bunch of splits that just make it appear that way? |