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Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” | |
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| Interdimensional warrior User ID: 48008806  United States10/07/2013 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” So the conversation of succession is still on going and could be serious. Quoting: Upheval Barry Smitherman, Texas’ Railroad Commissioner and candidate for Attorney General said, “Generally speaking, we have made great progress in becoming an independent nation, an ‘island nation’ if you will, and I think we want to continue down that path so that if the rest of the country falls apart, Texas can operate as a stand-alone entity with energy, food, water and roads as if we were a closed-loop system.” In the interview, Smitherman noted that Texas “has been very strong leading in the charge against the Obama administration” and that Texas is advantaged to secede because it’s “uniquely situated because we have energy resources…and our own independent electrical grid.” While many Texans are viewing this preparation as controversial, Americans are saying that Texas secession would radically shake up the American political landscape. RELATED: Putin: Obama Administration is “Pathetic” “Texas secession would guarantee no Republican is ever elected to the Presidency,” one American noted. Do you support a potential Texas secession? [link to americanoverlook.com] If it weren't for their reliance on federal funding, I'd believe that. Texans would like to think of themselves as a whole other country , but as long as they're reliant on Federal moneys acquired in the systematic process of persecuting their own citizens, it's all a bunch of horseshit. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45833700 United States10/07/2013 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” However, if Texas were to succeed then democrats would control the government indefinitely. They have too many electoral votes and Republicans could never win. Because of this one succession would lead to another and it would cut off the west coast liberal states. Ultimately Texas could not secede as the whole nation would dissolve into regional governments. Not saying that is a bad thing as every corporate reorganization tends to be positive in the markets. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 44857559  Hong Kong10/07/2013 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” I think if Texas actually made a declaration of secession, then the Feds would nuke the place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988822  Ain't nobody gonna be allowed to leave the "Union." Book it! This is a joke, the fallout from that would be unbelievable for the rest of the USA. You have to consider that Texas has nuclear power plants. If you hit enough of the plants with nuclear bombs, bye bye North America. |
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| Upheval (OP) User ID: 8546911 Brazil10/07/2013 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” However, if Texas were to succeed then democrats would control the government indefinitely. They have too many electoral votes and Republicans could never win. Because of this one succession would lead to another and it would cut off the west coast liberal states. Ultimately Texas could not secede as the whole nation would dissolve into regional governments. Not saying that is a bad thing as every corporate reorganization tends to be positive in the markets. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45833700 Ya, I have read the same thing. It would be a historic moment to see such a thing. Wishful Doom Thinking. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 47954968 United States10/07/2013 08:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” So the conversation of succession is still on going and could be serious. Quoting: Upheval Barry Smitherman, Texas’ Railroad Commissioner and candidate for Attorney General said, “Generally speaking, we have made great progress in becoming an independent nation, an ‘island nation’ if you will, and I think we want to continue down that path so that if the rest of the country falls apart, Texas can operate as a stand-alone entity with energy, food, water and roads as if we were a closed-loop system.” In the interview, Smitherman noted that Texas “has been very strong leading in the charge against the Obama administration” and that Texas is advantaged to secede because it’s “uniquely situated because we have energy resources…and our own independent electrical grid.” While many Texans are viewing this preparation as controversial, Americans are saying that Texas secession would radically shake up the American political landscape. RELATED: Putin: Obama Administration is “Pathetic” “Texas secession would guarantee no Republican is ever elected to the Presidency,” one American noted. Do you support a potential Texas secession? [link to americanoverlook.com] If it weren't for their reliance on federal funding, I'd believe that. Texans would like to think of themselves as a whole other country , but as long as they're reliant on Federal moneys acquired in the systematic process of persecuting their own citizens, it's all a bunch of horseshit. You're the one full of horse shit. Texas pays the federal thugs MORE in taxes than they get back. Fuck off, shill! |
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Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 37059669  Slovakia10/07/2013 08:23 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” So the conversation of succession is still on going and could be serious. Quoting: Upheval Barry Smitherman, Texas’ Railroad Commissioner and candidate for Attorney General said, “Generally speaking, we have made great progress in becoming an independent nation, an ‘island nation’ if you will, and I think we want to continue down that path so that if the rest of the country falls apart, Texas can operate as a stand-alone entity with energy, food, water and roads as if we were a closed-loop system.” In the interview, Smitherman noted that Texas “has been very strong leading in the charge against the Obama administration” and that Texas is advantaged to secede because it’s “uniquely situated because we have energy resources…and our own independent electrical grid.” While many Texans are viewing this preparation as controversial, Americans are saying that Texas secession would radically shake up the American political landscape. RELATED: Putin: Obama Administration is “Pathetic” “Texas secession would guarantee no Republican is ever elected to the Presidency,” one American noted. Do you support a potential Texas secession? [link to americanoverlook.com] If it weren't for their reliance on federal funding, I'd believe that. Texans would like to think of themselves as a whole other country , but as long as they're reliant on Federal moneys acquired in the systematic process of persecuting their own citizens, it's all a bunch of horseshit. Texas taxpayers send the Feds more $ than they receive in services. The Fed is a net negative for the Texas taxpayer. Glad I still own my Texas property. Gotta keep the options open. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A  |
| The Truth Hurts User ID: 24470209 United States10/07/2013 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” So the conversation of succession is still on going and could be serious. Quoting: Upheval Barry Smitherman, Texas’ Railroad Commissioner and candidate for Attorney General said, “Generally speaking, we have made great progress in becoming an independent nation, an ‘island nation’ if you will, and I think we want to continue down that path so that if the rest of the country falls apart, Texas can operate as a stand-alone entity with energy, food, water and roads as if we were a closed-loop system.” In the interview, Smitherman noted that Texas “has been very strong leading in the charge against the Obama administration” and that Texas is advantaged to secede because it’s “uniquely situated because we have energy resources…and our own independent electrical grid.” While many Texans are viewing this preparation as controversial, Americans are saying that Texas secession would radically shake up the American political landscape. RELATED: Putin: Obama Administration is “Pathetic” “Texas secession would guarantee no Republican is ever elected to the Presidency,” one American noted. Do you support a potential Texas secession? [link to americanoverlook.com]  No one will be able to Leave. Government will just invade, and sell Texas to China. |
| Interdimensional warrior User ID: 48008806 United States10/07/2013 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” So the conversation of succession is still on going and could be serious. Quoting: Upheval Barry Smitherman, Texas’ Railroad Commissioner and candidate for Attorney General said, “Generally speaking, we have made great progress in becoming an independent nation, an ‘island nation’ if you will, and I think we want to continue down that path so that if the rest of the country falls apart, Texas can operate as a stand-alone entity with energy, food, water and roads as if we were a closed-loop system.” In the interview, Smitherman noted that Texas “has been very strong leading in the charge against the Obama administration” and that Texas is advantaged to secede because it’s “uniquely situated because we have energy resources…and our own independent electrical grid.” While many Texans are viewing this preparation as controversial, Americans are saying that Texas secession would radically shake up the American political landscape. RELATED: Putin: Obama Administration is “Pathetic” “Texas secession would guarantee no Republican is ever elected to the Presidency,” one American noted. Do you support a potential Texas secession? [link to americanoverlook.com] If it weren't for their reliance on federal funding, I'd believe that. Texans would like to think of themselves as a whole other country , but as long as they're reliant on Federal moneys acquired in the systematic process of persecuting their own citizens, it's all a bunch of horseshit. You're the one full of horse shit. Texas pays the federal thugs MORE in taxes than they get back. Fuck off, shill! Not even close. Better take another look.Texas government is heavily dependent on federal funding, mainly because of the expense of persecuting it's own people unconstitutionally. We have more people in prison per capita than any government in the world, bar none, and it's not because the crime rate is higher here than anywhere else. At any given time in my county of 30,000 alone, over 300 are under indictment for felony crimes. Grand juries are rubber stamp, and the due process of law is totally ignored. It's all about corruption, kickbacks and federal funding. There is hardly a kid under 30 that has not been put through the system, and so many are "on paper" that if that income were to be withheld, the local county governments would collapse under the wieght of their own abuses. Read up on it. |
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| Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 37059669 Slovakia10/07/2013 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” So the conversation of succession is still on going and could be serious. Quoting: Upheval Barry Smitherman, Texas’ Railroad Commissioner and candidate for Attorney General said, “Generally speaking, we have made great progress in becoming an independent nation, an ‘island nation’ if you will, and I think we want to continue down that path so that if the rest of the country falls apart, Texas can operate as a stand-alone entity with energy, food, water and roads as if we were a closed-loop system.” In the interview, Smitherman noted that Texas “has been very strong leading in the charge against the Obama administration” and that Texas is advantaged to secede because it’s “uniquely situated because we have energy resources…and our own independent electrical grid.” While many Texans are viewing this preparation as controversial, Americans are saying that Texas secession would radically shake up the American political landscape. RELATED: Putin: Obama Administration is “Pathetic” “Texas secession would guarantee no Republican is ever elected to the Presidency,” one American noted. Do you support a potential Texas secession? [link to americanoverlook.com] If it weren't for their reliance on federal funding, I'd believe that. Texans would like to think of themselves as a whole other country , but as long as they're reliant on Federal moneys acquired in the systematic process of persecuting their own citizens, it's all a bunch of horseshit. You're the one full of horse shit. Texas pays the federal thugs MORE in taxes than they get back. Fuck off, shill! Not even close. Better take another look.Texas government is heavily dependent on federal funding, mainly because of the expense of persecuting it's own people unconstitutionally. We have more people in prison per capita than any government in the world, bar none, and it's not because the crime rate is higher here than anywhere else. At any given time in my county of 30,000 alone, over 300 are under indictment for felony crimes. Grand juries are rubber stamp, and the due process of law is totally ignored. It's all about corruption, kickbacks and federal funding. There is hardly a kid under 30 that has not been put through the system, and so many are "on paper" that if that income were to be withheld, the local county governments would collapse under the wieght of their own abuses. Read up on it. Perhaps you would be happier in Los Angeles? In the Texas county where I hold property, I know very few who are in the "system" or likely ever will be. Sounds like you are running with the wrong crowd.  Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
| Doom Candy Texas Yellow Rose Colored Glasses... User ID: 32966453 United States10/07/2013 08:31 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” If it weren't for their reliance on federal funding, I'd believe that. Texans would like to think of themselves as a whole other country , but as long as they're reliant on Federal moneys acquired in the systematic process of persecuting their own citizens, it's all a bunch of horseshit. WRONG! Texas only gets back 96 cents on every dollar given to the Feds. There would be a 4 cent SURPLUS if they were to separate. Now some of our neighbors to the left (NM) have taken the idea behind the phrase "sucking off the government teat" to a new level receiving far more in excess of what they give so that extra 4 cents should probably go to secure border patrol. Not that I, as a Texan, would support such a thing... That's what I'm supposed to say, right? Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone. There will be casualties. You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me. Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them. |
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| Let Freedom Ring 365 User ID: 32723625 United States10/07/2013 08:38 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” I think if Texas actually made a declaration of secession, then the Feds would nuke the place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988822 Ain't nobody gonna be allowed to leave the "Union." Book it!  You are the creator of your own master plan... Make it a good one. Wake the fuk up and be ready... This is absolutely no time to be stupid! “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” - Nikola Tesla |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 40414955 United States10/07/2013 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” So the conversation of succession is still on going and could be serious. Quoting: Upheval Barry Smitherman, Texas’ Railroad Commissioner and candidate for Attorney General said, “Generally speaking, we have made great progress in becoming an independent nation, an ‘island nation’ if you will, and I think we want to continue down that path so that if the rest of the country falls apart, Texas can operate as a stand-alone entity with energy, food, water and roads as if we were a closed-loop system.” In the interview, Smitherman noted that Texas “has been very strong leading in the charge against the Obama administration” and that Texas is advantaged to secede because it’s “uniquely situated because we have energy resources…and our own independent electrical grid.” While many Texans are viewing this preparation as controversial, Americans are saying that Texas secession would radically shake up the American political landscape. RELATED: Putin: Obama Administration is “Pathetic” “Texas secession would guarantee no Republican is ever elected to the Presidency,” one American noted. Do you support a potential Texas secession? [link to americanoverlook.com] Fuck yeah I support Texas! |
| Mad Scientist (aka AmJedi) User ID: 45078308 United States10/07/2013 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” Find by me, just take Oklahoma with you! Longhorns and Sooners can get along. (GLP aka American Jedi) Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth. Kenny Powers If you steal the dreams of others long enough, sooner or later you'll end up in a nightmare. American Jedi Intellectuals solve problems, geniuses prevent them. Albert Einstein Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum.... "The last of the old?" "No, the first of the new." |
| Elsabiades.. User ID: 42263367 United States10/07/2013 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” So the conversation of succession is still on going and could be serious. Quoting: Upheval Barry Smitherman, Texas’ Railroad Commissioner and candidate for Attorney General said, “Generally speaking, we have made great progress in becoming an independent nation, an ‘island nation’ if you will, and I think we want to continue down that path so that if the rest of the country falls apart, Texas can operate as a stand-alone entity with energy, food, water and roads as if we were a closed-loop system.” In the interview, Smitherman noted that Texas “has been very strong leading in the charge against the Obama administration” and that Texas is advantaged to secede because it’s “uniquely situated because we have energy resources…and our own independent electrical grid.” While many Texans are viewing this preparation as controversial, Americans are saying that Texas secession would radically shake up the American political landscape. RELATED: Putin: Obama Administration is “Pathetic” “Texas secession would guarantee no Republican is ever elected to the Presidency,” one American noted. Do you support a potential Texas secession? [link to americanoverlook.com] If it weren't for their reliance on federal funding, I'd believe that. Texans would like to think of themselves as a whole other country , but as long as they're reliant on Federal moneys acquired in the systematic process of persecuting their own citizens, it's all a bunch of horseshit. You're the one full of horse shit. Texas pays the federal thugs MORE in taxes than they get back. Fuck off, shill! Not even close. Better take another look.Texas government is heavily dependent on federal funding, mainly because of the expense of persecuting it's own people unconstitutionally. We have more people in prison per capita than any government in the world, bar none, and it's not because the crime rate is higher here than anywhere else. At any given time in my county of 30,000 alone, over 300 are under indictment for felony crimes. Grand juries are rubber stamp, and the due process of law is totally ignored. It's all about corruption, kickbacks and federal funding. There is hardly a kid under 30 that has not been put through the system, and so many are "on paper" that if that income were to be withheld, the local county governments would collapse under the wieght of their own abuses. Read up on it. Excellent point ! Most people around the country do not know about Texas "turn over orders" which carry up to 6 months in jail if you don't "turn over" the money when a judgment is rendered against you. Meaning: TEXAS HAS DEBTOR PRISONS.....(I'm in Alabama and represented a friend in Court there). Unbelievable. Elsabiades.. |
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| KimmieAnnaJones User ID: 35744535 United States10/07/2013 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” We have been hearing this from TX for the past 3 years. "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." - I AM Vote for people that have a track record for loving your Constitution or lose your country forever!!! Put down the damn touchy feely koolaid and WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!! :militia: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29246799 United States10/07/2013 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” I am a Texan & I have heard rumblings of seccession a LOT here lately. The main obstacle with that is Rick Perry...he's on the "payroll". I do not believe he's capable of standing up for us much less himself. Big ol chicken shit. |
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| Mad Scientist (aka AmJedi) User ID: 45078308 United States10/07/2013 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” I think if Texas actually made a declaration of secession, then the Feds would nuke the place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988822 Ain't nobody gonna be allowed to leave the "Union." Book it! Bullshit! They would not nuke dick. They would not harm the resources of Texas. They'd try to take it back conventionally. Of course, they'd have to cross Oklahoma and Arkansas most likely. Good fuckin' luck with that, in that scenario. It really simple, you don't want secession, fire the Mocha Wonder and the 545 Mob. Otherwise, I think we are all in a world of fuckin' hurt because these movements are growing fast! I'm not advocating it, but I can certainly empathize with the frustration! (GLP aka American Jedi) Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth. Kenny Powers If you steal the dreams of others long enough, sooner or later you'll end up in a nightmare. American Jedi Intellectuals solve problems, geniuses prevent them. Albert Einstein Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum.... "The last of the old?" "No, the first of the new." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 47923514 Egypt10/07/2013 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” I think if Texas actually made a declaration of secession, then the Feds would nuke the place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988822 Ain't nobody gonna be allowed to leave the "Union." Book it! wrong. A lot of military hardware in the red states. Dyess AFB, Whiteman AFB, FT Hood, FT Riley..... The feds can't fuck with shit when they know there is a B2 strike inbound on DC |
| Doom Candy Texas Yellow Rose Colored Glasses... User ID: 32966453 United States10/07/2013 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas is preparing to secede from the union and become an “independent nation” if the U.S. continues to “fall apart.” You're the one full of horse shit. Texas pays the federal thugs MORE in taxes than they get back. Fuck off, shill! Not even close. Better take another look.Texas government is heavily dependent on federal funding, mainly because of the expense of persecuting it's own people unconstitutionally. We have more people in prison per capita than any government in the world, bar none, and it's not because the crime rate is higher here than anywhere else. At any given time in my county of 30,000 alone, over 300 are under indictment for felony crimes. Grand juries are rubber stamp, and the due process of law is totally ignored. It's all about corruption, kickbacks and federal funding. There is hardly a kid under 30 that has not been put through the system, and so many are "on paper" that if that income were to be withheld, the local county governments would collapse under the wieght of their own abuses. Read up on it. No shill you read up on it. Stop spouting BS propaganda from some progressive website that has always gotten their facts wrong. We have far FEWER federal employees per capita than states half our size. While it is true local municipalities choose to operate as stand alone communities and employ their own police, fire, isd, library etc... You cannot equate that as government employment in the way you are trying. And btw while I don't like it, our prisons are overcrowded with the felons of other states. We could drop them back home no problem. And this high crime rate you speak of (which you greatly overstated and misrepresented) will go away as soon as jones figures out he won't be allowed to live on the dole anymore. Sorry Houston - swim to the bayou again. Did you mention btw the correlation between generously accepting Katrina immigrants and the crime wave? We won't make that mistake again. If you are a Texan I am ashamed to be neighbors. Yes, folks unfortunately we do have some unbelievably stupid liberal non thinking liberty hating fucks down here. Dude, if you you use facts to support your position I have no problem with you but you can't spout off half truths to bank yourself up. Edit: add to say this "paper" money you speak of is already factored in the to the 96% return I stated in an earlier post. Economic numbers would exponentially rise once these programs are refactored. And btw I am not advocating succession - we need to fix America not destroy it and succession would screw everyone. Last Edited by Bright Side on 10/07/2013 08:56 AM Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone. There will be casualties. You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me. Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them. |
