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Skip to 2:30 to see him give the smartest comment on this issue so far!

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Socialized healthcare can be done very well with much less waste and better services than our current system. The problem is that it is entirely impossible to pull off in the US because our economy and political system are not compatible with such a thing.
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Re: Jon Stewart nails healthcare issue in interview with Kathleen Sebelius
sooo... socialism?

yay?
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Yes Obamacare is shit I agree, it's just weird how much everyone rags on the single payer system on this site when if implemented right it is amazing!
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most of them have just never seen/expierienced any other way and unfortunately this Obamacare fiasco is only going to
reinforce the negativity toward a single payer system.
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The above quotes sum it up Superdave, Chowan is from the US and actually gets it. Most Americans have been brainwashed into thinking Single Payer is some evil commie scheme which is why the healthcare system is in the trouble it is, when other countries flourish. It's sad.
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Socialized healthcare can be done very well with much less waste and better services than our current system. The problem is that it is entirely impossible to pull off in the US because our economy and political system are not compatible with such a thing.
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clappa
Time to change your systems!

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You have got to be a complete idiot to listen to this. Can people seriously be this stupid not to see what is being sold to them! I think that America in the middle of 2014 is going to finally come to their very senses when they realize what the cost of this mess is going to be. They will finally realize what these complete ASS CLOWNS have sold them. When the realize what penalties and powers it gives to government to intrude into your life. This is going to be a complete train wreck! Just wish people could have more insight and not run into this BRICK WALL so BLINDLY! I think it proves how STUPID the American public has become. The sheepel I guess will eat what ever these ASS CLOWNS put in front of them!
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You have got to be a complete idiot to listen to this. Can people seriously be this stupid not to see what is being sold to them! I think that America in the middle of 2014 is going to finally come to their very senses when they realize what the cost of this mess is going to be. They will finally realize what these complete ASS CLOWNS have sold them. When the realize what penalties and powers it gives to government to intrude into your life. This is going to be a complete train wreck! Just wish people could have more insight and not run into this BRICK WALL so BLINDLY! I think it proves how STUPID the American public has become. The sheepel I guess will eat what ever these ASS CLOWNS put in front of them!
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I don't know when even Jon Stewart calls it out as a bad plan I think people are waking up. Watch the whole interview it is interesting to watch her squirm...
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Seriously listen to some one with Sonic the Hedgehog as an avatar who clearly can not think their way out of a card board bag. Seriously they call us in the US stupid this is pathetic. Would not know the TRUTH if it smacked them in the face. Go back to playing video games waiting for a government check to come in the mail and leave us to deal with the serious statements!
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You have got to be a complete idiot to listen to this. Can people seriously be this stupid not to see what is being sold to them! I think that America in the middle of 2014 is going to finally come to their very senses when they realize what the cost of this mess is going to be. They will finally realize what these complete ASS CLOWNS have sold them. When the realize what penalties and powers it gives to government to intrude into your life. This is going to be a complete train wreck! Just wish people could have more insight and not run into this BRICK WALL so BLINDLY! I think it proves how STUPID the American public has become. The sheepel I guess will eat what ever these ASS CLOWNS put in front of them!
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I don't know when even Jon Stewart calls it out as a bad plan I think people are waking up. Watch the whole interview it is interesting to watch her squirm...
 Quoting: Truthserim


I guess I jumped the gun and did not understand you. You seem to be one that thinks SOCIALISM IS GOOD. Here in America when you have a FREE market SOCIALISM is a step backwards. Maybe it works for you however I promise you it is the first step to slavery!
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Since he came back he has been the biggest dem loving unequal piece of shit no different than cnn. It sickens me to watch most of the time now
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Socialized healthcare can be done very well with much less waste and better services than our current system. The problem is that it is entirely impossible to pull off in the US because our economy and political system are not compatible with such a thing.
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Not to mention that people just don't trust the gov't anymore. Everything they are involved in is bloated, rife with fraud and generally not efficient. The healthcare will be no different.

The only beneficiaries are the insiders at the top.
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You have got to be a complete idiot to listen to this. Can people seriously be this stupid not to see what is being sold to them! I think that America in the middle of 2014 is going to finally come to their very senses when they realize what the cost of this mess is going to be. They will finally realize what these complete ASS CLOWNS have sold them. When the realize what penalties and powers it gives to government to intrude into your life. This is going to be a complete train wreck! Just wish people could have more insight and not run into this BRICK WALL so BLINDLY! I think it proves how STUPID the American public has become. The sheepel I guess will eat what ever these ASS CLOWNS put in front of them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47442526


I don't know when even Jon Stewart calls it out as a bad plan I think people are waking up. Watch the whole interview it is interesting to watch her squirm...
 Quoting: Truthserim


I guess I jumped the gun and did not understand you. You seem to be one that thinks SOCIALISM IS GOOD. Here in America when you have a FREE market SOCIALISM is a step backwards. Maybe it works for you however I promise you it is the first step to slavery!
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putin

Maybe you guys are a lost cause after all... Try and travel it'll broaden your view of the world.
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You have got to be a complete idiot to listen to this. Can people seriously be this stupid not to see what is being sold to them! I think that America in the middle of 2014 is going to finally come to their very senses when they realize what the cost of this mess is going to be. They will finally realize what these complete ASS CLOWNS have sold them. When the realize what penalties and powers it gives to government to intrude into your life. This is going to be a complete train wreck! Just wish people could have more insight and not run into this BRICK WALL so BLINDLY! I think it proves how STUPID the American public has become. The sheepel I guess will eat what ever these ASS CLOWNS put in front of them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47442526


I don't know when even Jon Stewart calls it out as a bad plan I think people are waking up. Watch the whole interview it is interesting to watch her squirm...
 Quoting: Truthserim


I guess I jumped the gun and did not understand you. You seem to be one that thinks SOCIALISM IS GOOD. Here in America when you have a FREE market SOCIALISM is a step backwards. Maybe it works for you however I promise you it is the first step to slavery!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47442526


The first step to slavery? You pay taxes I assume? These taxes go towards paying peoples benefits, food stamps, social security etc Are you not living in a socialist state already?

If the US didn't also spend so much of your taxes on wars and programs like the NSA you could have a better healthcare system like many other countries. My girlfriend who is American had to pay $3000.00 when she broke her wrist in the States. When I did a similar thing here it was free as our system is one based on "Slavery"

Wake up and smell the roses you already pay for other peoples shit why not get something good out it for yourselves!

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You have got to be a complete idiot to listen to this. Can people seriously be this stupid not to see what is being sold to them! I think that America in the middle of 2014 is going to finally come to their very senses when they realize what the cost of this mess is going to be. They will finally realize what these complete ASS CLOWNS have sold them. When the realize what penalties and powers it gives to government to intrude into your life. This is going to be a complete train wreck! Just wish people could have more insight and not run into this BRICK WALL so BLINDLY! I think it proves how STUPID the American public has become. The sheepel I guess will eat what ever these ASS CLOWNS put in front of them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47442526


I don't know when even Jon Stewart calls it out as a bad plan I think people are waking up. Watch the whole interview it is interesting to watch her squirm...
 Quoting: Truthserim


I guess I jumped the gun and did not understand you. You seem to be one that thinks SOCIALISM IS GOOD. Here in America when you have a FREE market SOCIALISM is a step backwards. Maybe it works for you however I promise you it is the first step to slavery!
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putin

Maybe you guys are a lost cause after all... Try and travel it'll broaden your view of the world.
 Quoting: Truthserim


Your rich come to our great country (US) to get their healthcare, because we have the best.

can't afford it? tough shit and die.
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You have got to be a complete idiot to listen to this. Can people seriously be this stupid not to see what is being sold to them! I think that America in the middle of 2014 is going to finally come to their very senses when they realize what the cost of this mess is going to be. They will finally realize what these complete ASS CLOWNS have sold them. When the realize what penalties and powers it gives to government to intrude into your life. This is going to be a complete train wreck! Just wish people could have more insight and not run into this BRICK WALL so BLINDLY! I think it proves how STUPID the American public has become. The sheepel I guess will eat what ever these ASS CLOWNS put in front of them!
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I don't know when even Jon Stewart calls it out as a bad plan I think people are waking up. Watch the whole interview it is interesting to watch her squirm...
 Quoting: Truthserim


I guess I jumped the gun and did not understand you. You seem to be one that thinks SOCIALISM IS GOOD. Here in America when you have a FREE market SOCIALISM is a step backwards. Maybe it works for you however I promise you it is the first step to slavery!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47442526


The first step to slavery? You pay taxes I assume? These taxes go towards paying peoples benefits, food stamps, social security etc Are you not living in a socialist state already?

If the US didn't also spend so much of your taxes on wars and programs like the NSA you could have a better healthcare system like many other countries. My girlfriend who is American had to pay $3000.00 when she broke her wrist in the States. When I did a similar thing here it was free as our system is one based on "Slavery"

Wake up and smell the roses you already pay for other peoples shit why not get something good out it for yourselves!

:WTF345:
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oh look, the commie is taking an American wife and going to convert her.

we need to make marriage and relationships with foreigners illegal.
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Sometimes i love the guy and some times i hate him, but this time he nailed it. And once again one of the top people look like the idiot they are. Faking the facts all along when they knew the whole time no one was interested in more of their lame shit. This bill is nothing about healthcare and everything about communism. I just hate the fact that everyone is only worried about the cost, and havent even bothered reading just a little of the bill. Because if you did you would realize as a citizen you are passing all your power and all of your rights to freedom to those who want to be globalist leaders.

FUck the money, this thing if implemented is the end of the U.S.A. as you know it. It literally takes everything from you! And all you want to talk about is how pricey it is? It will cost you so much more than 3 times your current rate. It literally could cost you your life and yet you wont read any of it?
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The first step to slavery? You pay taxes I assume? These taxes go towards paying peoples benefits, food stamps, social security etc Are you not living in a socialist state already?

If the US didn't also spend so much of your taxes on wars and programs like the NSA you could have a better healthcare system like many other countries. My girlfriend who is American had to pay $3000.00 when she broke her wrist in the States. When I did a similar thing here it was free as our system is one based on "Slavery"

Wake up and smell the roses you already pay for other peoples shit why not get something good out it for yourselves!

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I don't know when even Jon Stewart calls it out as a bad plan I think people are waking up. Watch the whole interview it is interesting to watch her squirm...
 Quoting: Truthserim


I guess I jumped the gun and did not understand you. You seem to be one that thinks SOCIALISM IS GOOD. Here in America when you have a FREE market SOCIALISM is a step backwards. Maybe it works for you however I promise you it is the first step to slavery!
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putin

Maybe you guys are a lost cause after all... Try and travel it'll broaden your view of the world.
 Quoting: Truthserim


Your rich come to our great country (US) to get their healthcare, because we have the best.

can't afford it? tough shit and die.
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You think your doctors are somehow better than other doctors around the world? this is why America is doomed to drown in it's own arrogance and folly.

Maybe one day you won't be able to afford it and will die as a result, people with closed minds are the worst. Or are you part of the one percent?

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I don't know when even Jon Stewart calls it out as a bad plan I think people are waking up. Watch the whole interview it is interesting to watch her squirm...
 Quoting: Truthserim


I guess I jumped the gun and did not understand you. You seem to be one that thinks SOCIALISM IS GOOD. Here in America when you have a FREE market SOCIALISM is a step backwards. Maybe it works for you however I promise you it is the first step to slavery!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47442526


The first step to slavery? You pay taxes I assume? These taxes go towards paying peoples benefits, food stamps, social security etc Are you not living in a socialist state already?

If the US didn't also spend so much of your taxes on wars and programs like the NSA you could have a better healthcare system like many other countries. My girlfriend who is American had to pay $3000.00 when she broke her wrist in the States. When I did a similar thing here it was free as our system is one based on "Slavery"

Wake up and smell the roses you already pay for other peoples shit why not get something good out it for yourselves!

WTF345
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oh look, the commie is taking an American wife and going to convert her.

we need to make marriage and relationships with foreigners illegal.
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Ahh you guys are so painful it's not the cold war, you really have swallowed all the BS hook line and sinker haven't you? No wonder you got Obamacare it's all you deserve if you still think you are fighting a cold war on communism!
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one of it works in America. It always turn bad when the government gets involved.

I think there is this belief that the U.S. with 300 million + people could easily pull of a scheme like Sweden or the United Kingdom. Well not really. Not at all. There are so many reasons but let me start with the major problems.

People ask do you pay taxes? Well you are paying for benefits. No. You are paying into the biggest pyramid scheme in the history of the world. Since forever there has never been such a huge scam. The U.S. government does not work with a lock box like you may want to believe. It could literally all fall apart tomorrow and we would have nothing. It is a sad thing. Medicare and social security are good ideas at their heart but they have been misused and it could go very wrong very quickly. One of the reasons why Obama's plan had a lot of criticism is because it takes away from Medicare. This is a program that people pay into all their life. Now the government is messing with it. They act like the very people that pay into it are nothing but a burden. It could be a big problem.

If you have a responsible population that understands it is not free and you do pay into and you are helping your fellow citizen as well as yourself then it is all good. Guess what. Most of the U.S. population wouldn't comprehend that thinking and they see government programs as freebies. Stupid white people and non-whites will abuse the system. They will think they never have to work. The concept of socialized health care is not something they understand. They want to take take take. This is the dominant thinking in South American countries. Make it socialized so we can take from the rich and give to the poor. The poor never learn and instead equalizing things it makes the entire system fall apart. Look at the society and health care in any South America country. They are piss poor and they cannot advance and evolve.

These are northern European concepts of community and government and non-whites do not get it. They think in different terms and different ways and they are not going to change. To them it is all about taking and giving back is not a concept they are going to understand.

I can tell you the future as we become more of a non-white country. We will institute these types of programs and dumb white people and non-whites will support them when the reality is these programs will give money to the rich and screw over the poor. When it comes down to it that was the intention. The health insurance companies will get millions and the average person will have trouble making ends meet. Then jobs will be scarce and benefits from companies non-existent. Nothing is free. Now the rich have found a way to screw you over and the gap between the wealthy and poor grows. People in mansions and the poor brown people in houses made of sheet metal and cardboard. It is sick. Some slick jerk will constantly fool the brown masses. Why do you think liberals flooded the country with such people from great socialist countries in South America.

Only advanced and evolved people can understand how socialized health care works. Places like Sweden and the U.K. will lose their benefits the more non-white their countries become. The U.K. is already talking about making people pay out of pocket for some of their healthcare. They will lose all of it if their non-white population grows beyond 15% to 20%. It is about control and taking those government funds. They will not reduce taxes but they will reduce services.

It is better for some people to simply use cash and the basic idea of cash for services. The government will abuse the system because humans run the government.
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Socialized healthcare can be done very well with much less waste and better services than our current system. The problem is that it is entirely impossible to pull off in the US because our economy and political system are not compatible with such a thing.
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Not to mention that people just don't trust the gov't anymore. Everything they are involved in is bloated, rife with fraud and generally not efficient. The healthcare will be no different.

The only beneficiaries are the insiders at the top.
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Yep. A system with revolving door for leadership and pluralism cannot do a single payer system effectively, since the politicians cannot be held accountable (only 'voted out' and replaced with more of the same). The best way to do it would be with a monarchy or fascism. Those systems work too well, though, so the current order viciously propagandizes against them.
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one of it works in America. It always turn bad when the government gets involved.

I think there is this belief that the U.S. with 300 million + people could easily pull of a scheme like Sweden or the United Kingdom. Well not really. Not at all. There are so many reasons but let me start with the major problems.

People ask do you pay taxes? Well you are paying for benefits. No. You are paying into the biggest pyramid scheme in the history of the world. Since forever there has never been such a huge scam. The U.S. government does not work with a lock box like you may want to believe. It could literally all fall apart tomorrow and we would have nothing. It is a sad thing. Medicare and social security are good ideas at their heart but they have been misused and it could go very wrong very quickly. One of the reasons why Obama's plan had a lot of criticism is because it takes away from Medicare. This is a program that people pay into all their life. Now the government is messing with it. They act like the very people that pay into it are nothing but a burden. It could be a big problem.

If you have a responsible population that understands it is not free and you do pay into and you are helping your fellow citizen as well as yourself then it is all good. Guess what. Most of the U.S. population wouldn't comprehend that thinking and they see government programs as freebies. Stupid white people and non-whites will abuse the system. They will think they never have to work. The concept of socialized health care is not something they understand. They want to take take take. This is the dominant thinking in South American countries. Make it socialized so we can take from the rich and give to the poor. The poor never learn and instead equalizing things it makes the entire system fall apart. Look at the society and health care in any South America country. They are piss poor and they cannot advance and evolve.

These are northern European concepts of community and government and non-whites do not get it. They think in different terms and different ways and they are not going to change. To them it is all about taking and giving back is not a concept they are going to understand.

I can tell you the future as we become more of a non-white country. We will institute these types of programs and dumb white people and non-whites will support them when the reality is these programs will give money to the rich and screw over the poor. When it comes down to it that was the intention. The health insurance companies will get millions and the average person will have trouble making ends meet. Then jobs will be scarce and benefits from companies non-existent. Nothing is free. Now the rich have found a way to screw you over and the gap between the wealthy and poor grows. People in mansions and the poor brown people in houses made of sheet metal and cardboard. It is sick. Some slick jerk will constantly fool the brown masses. Why do you think liberals flooded the country with such people from great socialist countries in South America.

Only advanced and evolved people can understand how socialized health care works. Places like Sweden and the U.K. will lose their benefits the more non-white their countries become. The U.K. is already talking about making people pay out of pocket for some of their healthcare. They will lose all of it if their non-white population grows beyond 15% to 20%. It is about control and taking those government funds. They will not reduce taxes but they will reduce services.

It is better for some people to simply use cash and the basic idea of cash for services. The government will abuse the system because humans run the government.
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Interesting read thanks for the normal debate rather than just yelling COMMIE! and telling me to F-off. I see where you are coming from maybe your government is to large and corrupt to implement a working system and the burden on the taxpayer may be to much.

Now I feel I finally have an intelligent answer, been trying to get one all week thanks!

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You have got to be a complete idiot to listen to this. Can people seriously be this stupid not to see what is being sold to them! I think that America in the middle of 2014 is going to finally come to their very senses when they realize what the cost of this mess is going to be. They will finally realize what these complete ASS CLOWNS have sold them. When the realize what penalties and powers it gives to government to intrude into your life. This is going to be a complete train wreck! Just wish people could have more insight and not run into this BRICK WALL so BLINDLY! I think it proves how STUPID the American public has become. The sheepel I guess will eat what ever these ASS CLOWNS put in front of them!
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I don't know when even Jon Stewart calls it out as a bad plan I think people are waking up. Watch the whole interview it is interesting to watch her squirm...
 Quoting: Truthserim


I guess I jumped the gun and did not understand you. You seem to be one that thinks SOCIALISM IS GOOD. Here in America when you have a FREE market SOCIALISM is a step backwards. Maybe it works for you however I promise you it is the first step to slavery!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47442526


The first step to slavery? You pay taxes I assume? These taxes go towards paying peoples benefits, food stamps, social security etc Are you not living in a socialist state already?

If the US didn't also spend so much of your taxes on wars and programs like the NSA you could have a better healthcare system like many other countries. My girlfriend who is American had to pay $3000.00 when she broke her wrist in the States. When I did a similar thing here it was free as our system is one based on "Slavery"

Wake up and smell the roses you already pay for other peoples shit why not get something good out it for yourselves!

:WTF345:
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"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


You need to realize that Americans have been completely brainwashed to believe that we have a free market and that everywhere else on the planet is a third world hell hole. They will say with a straight face that the average American has it better than the average Norwegian because Norway is "socialist."
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I don't know when even Jon Stewart calls it out as a bad plan I think people are waking up. Watch the whole interview it is interesting to watch her squirm...
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I guess I jumped the gun and did not understand you. You seem to be one that thinks SOCIALISM IS GOOD. Here in America when you have a FREE market SOCIALISM is a step backwards. Maybe it works for you however I promise you it is the first step to slavery!
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The first step to slavery? You pay taxes I assume? These taxes go towards paying peoples benefits, food stamps, social security etc Are you not living in a socialist state already?

If the US didn't also spend so much of your taxes on wars and programs like the NSA you could have a better healthcare system like many other countries. My girlfriend who is American had to pay $3000.00 when she broke her wrist in the States. When I did a similar thing here it was free as our system is one based on "Slavery"

Wake up and smell the roses you already pay for other peoples shit why not get something good out it for yourselves!

WTF345
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"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


You need to realize that Americans have been completely brainwashed to believe that we have a free market and that everywhere else on the planet is a third world hell hole. They will say with a straight face that the average American has it better than the average Norwegian because Norway is "socialist."
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Yeah I realize they have been using the term "Socialism" and Communism to keep the people in line for a long time. It is interesting to see it still works so well! GLP has certainly shown that recently people get very heated and patriotic over it which is of course just what Obama and the powers that be want.
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The pot smoking comic who now substitutes for journalism for most of our youth is a complete brainwashed Marxist. The interview was totally softball.

There has not been any real free markets in health care for quite some time. A simple fix would be to mandate HSA's, health savings accounts. Obamacare expressely outlaws these, because it would ahve saved healthcare and put the government out of the loop.

HSA's plus enforced cost transparency would have made the patient the consumer once again. At that point hospital and doctors would have to compete on cost and competence like a vet. has to do. Compare veterinary services with your standard hospital costs for the same procedures. You'll see about a factor of 10 or more difference.

That my friends is what you are missing due to a lack of capitalism.

Fact is almost all of our problems are due to a lack of Jesus and a lack of capitalism.
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The pot smoking comic who now substitutes for journalism for most of our youth is a complete brainwashed Marxist. The interview was totally softball.

There has not been any real free markets in health care for quite some time. A simple fix would be to mandate HSA's, health savings accounts. Obamacare expressely outlaws these, because it would ahve saved healthcare and put the government out of the loop.

HSA's plus enforced cost transparency would have made the patient the consumer once again. At that point hospital and doctors would have to compete on cost and competence like a vet. has to do. Compare veterinary services with your standard hospital costs for the same procedures. You'll see about a factor of 10 or more difference.

That my friends is what you are missing due to a lack of capitalism.

Fact is almost all of our problems are due to a lack of Jesus and a lack of capitalism.
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The thing is he wasn't even a good comic, that's why he chose to do political satire, it's by far the easiest comedy, the politicians write the fucking material themselves.

Give the guy a name like boener to play with and the dudes gonna be lining up emmys with no effort.

The scary thing is people take him seriously.
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Jon Stewart, sounds like a Catholic or Anglican, Am I correct?
Don't they rule the world, those Catholics? opp
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Jon Stewart, sounds like a Catholic or Anglican, Am I correct?
Don't they rule the world, those Catholics? opp
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hes jewish actually.

allow me to preempt your stance. GET OVER IT! lol
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Re: Jon Stewart nails healthcare issue in interview with Kathleen Sebelius
The pot smoking comic who now substitutes for journalism for most of our youth is a complete brainwashed Marxist. The interview was totally softball.

There has not been any real free markets in health care for quite some time. A simple fix would be to mandate HSA's, health savings accounts. Obamacare expressely outlaws these, because it would ahve saved healthcare and put the government out of the loop.

HSA's plus enforced cost transparency would have made the patient the consumer once again. At that point hospital and doctors would have to compete on cost and competence like a vet. has to do. Compare veterinary services with your standard hospital costs for the same procedures. You'll see about a factor of 10 or more difference.

That my friends is what you are missing due to a lack of capitalism.

Fact is almost all of our problems are due to a lack of Jesus and a lack of capitalism.
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Yeah costs for us are low as we have a single payer system so it's great
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You have got to be a complete idiot to listen to this. Can people seriously be this stupid not to see what is being sold to them! I think that America in the middle of 2014 is going to finally come to their very senses when they realize what the cost of this mess is going to be. They will finally realize what these complete ASS CLOWNS have sold them. When the realize what penalties and powers it gives to government to intrude into your life. This is going to be a complete train wreck! Just wish people could have more insight and not run into this BRICK WALL so BLINDLY! I think it proves how STUPID the American public has become. The sheepel I guess will eat what ever these ASS CLOWNS put in front of them!
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I don't know when even Jon Stewart calls it out as a bad plan I think people are waking up. Watch the whole interview it is interesting to watch her squirm...
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I guess I jumped the gun and did not understand you. You seem to be one that thinks SOCIALISM IS GOOD. Here in America when you have a FREE market SOCIALISM is a step backwards. Maybe it works for you however I promise you it is the first step to slavery!
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The first step to slavery? You pay taxes I assume? These taxes go towards paying peoples benefits, food stamps, social security etc Are you not living in a socialist state already?

If the US didn't also spend so much of your taxes on wars and programs like the NSA you could have a better healthcare system like many other countries. My girlfriend who is American had to pay $3000.00 when she broke her wrist in the States. When I did a similar thing here it was free as our system is one based on "Slavery"

Wake up and smell the roses you already pay for other peoples shit why not get something good out it for yourselves!

:WTF345:
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The US is absolutely spending way too much money on military forces and armaments and CIA and NSA and Wars and interest to bankers for overspending. Who knows what amazing prosperity and low cost of living there could be if all that were returned to the people for them to spend on whatever they need, want and choose for themselves.
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Thanks for posting I like Jonhf
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