Markets STARTED TO PANIC Only after increase in short term yields. THAT IS HAPPENING now... | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 38713228 Argentina 10/09/2013 07:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | T-bill yield spikes to levels not seen since financial crisis The one-month U.S. Treasury bill yield spiked to a multiyear high on Tuesday amid mounting concerns that the U.S. may not fulfill its payment obligations to short-term bond holders. The yield on the one-month T-bill traded as high as 0.322 percent, levels not seen since the fourth quarter of 2008, before settling at 0.273 percent, according to data from Thomson Reuters. The yield stood at 0.083 at the start of the month. Nervousness over the looming debt ceiling deadline was reflected in the Treasury Department's auction Tuesday of $30 billion worth of one-month bills at an interest rate of 0.35 percent – the highest one-month federal borrowing cost since October 2008... more: [link to www.cnbc.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47457951 Australia 10/09/2013 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | T-bill yield spikes to levels not seen since financial crisis Quoting: Strongman Shelford The one-month U.S. Treasury bill yield spiked to a multiyear high on Tuesday amid mounting concerns that the U.S. may not fulfill its payment obligations to short-term bond holders. The yield on the one-month T-bill traded as high as 0.322 percent, levels not seen since the fourth quarter of 2008, before settling at 0.273 percent, according to data from Thomson Reuters. The yield stood at 0.083 at the start of the month. Nervousness over the looming debt ceiling deadline was reflected in the Treasury Department's auction Tuesday of $30 billion worth of one-month bills at an interest rate of 0.35 percent – the highest one-month federal borrowing cost since October 2008... more: [link to www.cnbc.com] hmm.... 0.322 |
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Epic Beard Guy User ID: 41632673 United States 10/09/2013 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With interest payments being $20 billion a month, and income of $200 billion a month, how can King Barry say we are going to default on our debt. Last time I looked $200 billion was more than enough to pay a $20 billion debt service payment. The only way that brings a default is if he blows all the money on bull-shit before paying the bills. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
waterlily User ID: 46715388 United States 10/09/2013 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Market declines are created so that Wall Street can buy equities at discounted prices from the suckers who panic and then sell them back to the same suckers when the market recovers Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48082756 My observation is that this is the case. Might not be this time, but has been in the past. *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43937543 United States 10/09/2013 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Market declines are created so that Wall Street can buy equities at discounted prices from the suckers who panic and then sell them back to the same suckers when the market recovers Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48082756 ^^^THIS^^^ How many "shutdowns" in the last 30 years to "prevent" unsustainable debt? And here we are in a depression thanks to unsustainable debt... These "shutdowns" are big money makers for the insiders in CONgress and those who have back-channels to them. |
waterlily User ID: 46715388 United States 10/09/2013 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Global Dow has not crashed. [link to online.wsj.com] *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
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SpiderJones User ID: 1540313 United States 10/09/2013 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning Strongman, nice to see you submitting new threads! I check into GLP once in a while and have missed you. I guess we are both still expecting worldwide financial meltdown, any day now ( for the last four years) LOL, I can not believe that the economy here in the US is as good as it is, and I am still expecting HUGE DOOM...... Nice to see you- take care! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4223140 United States 10/09/2013 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With interest payments being $20 billion a month, and income of $200 billion a month, how can King Barry say we are going to default on our debt. Last time I looked $200 billion was more than enough to pay a $20 billion debt service payment. The only way that brings a default is if he blows all the money on bull-shit before paying the bills. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy ^ Winner |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46348647 United States 10/09/2013 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With interest payments being $20 billion a month, and income of $200 billion a month, how can King Barry say we are going to default on our debt. Last time I looked $200 billion was more than enough to pay a $20 billion debt service payment. The only way that brings a default is if he blows all the money on bull-shit before paying the bills. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy He likes to threaten to get his way. |
Hypertiger User ID: 23133028 Canada 10/09/2013 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The top do all the buying and selling...the bottom....follow along and speculate. When your demand for bonds is greater than supply....yields drop When your demand for bonds is less than supply....yields rise. They are dumping short term bonds...watch for yields to invert. When short yields spike above long yields...like on the 10 year. A recession or collapse....follows when? Last time it took about a year until the collapse. In 2008. But since the economy is so weak...the usual cycle by the top...might be broken....and the collapse will happen quick. Warren Buffet began dumping all he bought in 2008...earlier in the year. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31106319 United States 10/09/2013 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this blaming of Obamka is getting old do you understand how long and deep this goes? this is older and deeper than 6 years of obama understand this THE ECONOMIC SYSTEM, AS WE KNOW IT, IS DEAD AND THEY CAN'T FIX IT any politically brokered deal is only going to prolong the agony |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48114076 United States 10/09/2013 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | raise Debt Ceiling only makes USD worthless!@!!! Obama always helps China GOV!!! Obama doesn't quit QE save China from collapse!! Obama doesn't strike Syria helps China profits in Syria and Iran!!!! Obama is alway on the side of China . Helps China GOV for 6 years by selling American people profit!!! |
Saddletramp User ID: 740208 Puerto Rico 10/09/2013 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The top do all the buying and selling...the bottom....follow along and speculate. Quoting: Hypertiger When your demand for bonds is greater than supply....yields drop When your demand for bonds is less than supply....yields rise. They are dumping short term bonds...watch for yields to invert. When short yields spike above long yields...like on the 10 year. A recession or collapse....follows when? Last time it took about a year until the collapse. In 2008. But since the economy is so weak...the usual cycle by the top...might be broken....and the collapse will happen quick. Warren Buffet began dumping all he bought in 2008...earlier in the year. The yield on the one month treasury bill is already higher than the one year treasury note... Yields began to invert at the end of last week... 1 Month T-Bill .35% 1 Year Treasury Note .11% Last Edited by Saddletramp on 10/09/2013 10:13 AM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Mr. Toppit User ID: 26466623 United States 10/09/2013 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With interest payments being $20 billion a month, and income of $200 billion a month, how can King Barry say we are going to default on our debt. Last time I looked $200 billion was more than enough to pay a $20 billion debt service payment. The only way that brings a default is if he blows all the money on bull-shit before paying the bills. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy No expenses like federal workers or military pay. They all work for free during national emergencies. Just feed them occasionally from the huge MRE stockpiles the govt has in reserve. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46863956 United States 10/09/2013 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The banksters\' biggest threat is actually through the immense global derivatives markets, although the American Banker piece does not say so explicitly, rather talking of \"repos\". Repurchase agreements, by which derivatives counterparties place collateral which supposedly backs the payment flows they are \"swapping\", overwhelmingly use short-term Treasury notes and bills, currently some $600 billion worth of liquidity, in the derivatives bubbles A default on any part of any class of Treasury security would \"freeze\" the use of that class, at least, in \"repo\" operations, set bank counterparties to demanding additional collateral from each other, and wreak havoc through the derivatives markets in a bigger \"Lehman event.\". The yield on one-month Treasuries began surging Oct. 1. [link to larouchepac.com] |
Saddletramp User ID: 740208 Puerto Rico 10/09/2013 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With interest payments being $20 billion a month, and income of $200 billion a month, how can King Barry say we are going to default on our debt. Last time I looked $200 billion was more than enough to pay a $20 billion debt service payment. The only way that brings a default is if he blows all the money on bull-shit before paying the bills. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy The Trouble is in all the unfunded liabilities...Social Security, Medicare, Obamacare!!! And now Government Pensions since they've stolen all of the money out of there... Last Edited by Saddletramp on 10/09/2013 10:35 AM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
waterlily User ID: 46715388 United States 10/09/2013 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With interest payments being $20 billion a month, and income of $200 billion a month, how can King Barry say we are going to default on our debt. Last time I looked $200 billion was more than enough to pay a $20 billion debt service payment. The only way that brings a default is if he blows all the money on bull-shit before paying the bills. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy Well, that would never happen, would it? *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
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