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COMET ISON New Details Emerge- due to rotational axis, new surface will be exposed to sun on close approach

 
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COMET ISON New Details Emerge- due to rotational axis, new surface will be exposed to sun on close approach
[link to www.psi.edu]

“We measured the rotational pole of the nucleus. The pole indicates that only one side of the comet is being heated by the Sun on its way in until approximately one week before it reaches it closest point to the Sun,” said Planetary Science Institute Research Scientist Jian-Yang Li, who led a team that imaged the comet.

“Since the surface on the dark side of the comet should still retain a large fraction of very volatile materials, the sudden exposure to the strong sunlight when it gets closer to the Sun than Mercury could trigger huge outbursts of material,” Li said.

We measured the color of the coma, and found that the outer part of the coma is slightly redder than the inner part,” Li said. “This color change is unusual in comets, and seems to imply that the inner part contains some water ice grains, which sublimate as they move away from the nucleus.”

The expectation is high that Comet C/ISON will be much brighter and more spectacular than most other sungrazers when it puts on a show late this year.
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[link to www.isoncampaign.org]

great picture of ISON at link
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so it begins
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Good info OP.

Just a week ago in here the latest word had been "it would be the comet of the year, but not of the century".

So many conflicting opinions and theories makes ISON more interesting.

Like the link too. Pretty much you'll get this type of info with .edu and the other viewpoint from .gov or MSM.

Thank you for sharing.

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"the outer part of the coma is slightly redder than the inner part"

If Comet Holmes was the blue kachina (purifier), this is for sure the red kachina (destroyer).
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Re: COMET ISON New Details Emerge- due to rotational axis, new surface will be exposed to sun on close approach
wonder if the sudden exposure of the other side of the comet will alter its trajectory?

there was an article about this months ago, trying to find it

edit: here it is, saw this here couple months ago




So we have ISON close approach to earth on Christmas, and then we go through the tail in January
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wonder if the sudden exposure of the other side of the comet will alter its trajectory?

there was an article about this months ago, trying to find it

edit: here it is, saw this here couple months ago




So we have ISON close approach to earth on Christmas, and then we go through the tail in January
 Quoting: SnowboardingAlien


Hmmmmm..Has the observatory come out with their new
trajection?
Never Enough Wine!!
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Re: COMET ISON New Details Emerge- due to rotational axis, new surface will be exposed to sun on close approach
wonder if the sudden exposure of the other side of the comet will alter its trajectory?

there was an article about this months ago, trying to find it

edit: here it is, saw this here couple months ago




So we have ISON close approach to earth on Christmas, and then we go through the tail in January
 Quoting: SnowboardingAlien


Hmmmmm..Has the observatory come out with their new
trajection?
 Quoting: saturn12


nope, and I can't find anything official coming from the observatory itself. may be a youtube hit and run, but still an interesting concept
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Good find! 5*
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Ison's tail debris was what I was worried about and I read that there is no fragmentation happening, which is good for us here on earth. It looks like a nice, normal comet with interesting features. The trajectory after perihelion isn't going to affect us from what I have gathered.
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either way, the comet was discovered near the orbit of Jupiter, which is the farthest we ever discovered a sungrazer before.

This is why everyone said it was going to be the comet of the century, because it was brightening so far away from the frost line, they extrapolated the data and thought it would be incredibly bright if it continued on like that.

The thing is, it didn't. It actually got dimmer for awhile near the frost line.
Light curve at link
[link to www.isoncampaign.org]

So here it is. ISON has one side that is mostly unexposed to the sun due to its rotation. We saw ISON get bright near JUPITER, and those same volatiles (except this time on the other side of the comet) will be exposed to the sun near MERCURY.

Looks like ISON is going to get really bright when it gets closer to the sun in November, and could still be bright in December.
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"the outer part of the coma is slightly redder than the inner part"

If Comet Holmes was the blue kachina (purifier), this is for sure the red kachina (destroyer).
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they are saying the red part is water molecules on the comet. keyword here is slightly, it's still mostly green
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"the outer part of the coma is slightly redder than the inner part"

If Comet Holmes was the blue kachina (purifier), this is for sure the red kachina (destroyer).
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You Kachina-tards are worse than Niburutards.
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"the outer part of the coma is slightly redder than the inner part"

If Comet Holmes was the blue kachina (purifier), this is for sure the red kachina (destroyer).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9825753


You Kachina-tards are worse than Niburutards.
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Not sure of the definition of "if" eh?

—used to discuss the imaginary result or effect of something that did not happen or that is or was not true

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It was speculative.

Lack of consideration of all possibilities makes YOU worse than a Nibirutard.
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"the outer part of the coma is slightly redder than the inner part"

If Comet Holmes was the blue kachina (purifier), this is for sure the red kachina (destroyer).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9825753


they are saying the red part is water molecules on the comet. keyword here is slightly, it's still mostly green
 Quoting: SnowboardingAlien


Fair enough.

My question is how come no one is talking about Love Joy?
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Ison's tail debris was what I was worried about and I read that there is no fragmentation happening, which is good for us here on earth. It looks like a nice, normal comet with interesting features. The trajectory after perihelion isn't going to affect us from what I have gathered.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48069621


Oh come on don't you know? This comet will be an incredible disaster! It will be the end of the world as we know it! The sky is falling the sky is falling! lmao the tards around here are afraid of their own shadow.

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Re: COMET ISON New Details Emerge- due to rotational axis, new surface will be exposed to sun on close approach
"the outer part of the coma is slightly redder than the inner part"

If Comet Holmes was the blue kachina (purifier), this is for sure the red kachina (destroyer).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9825753


they are saying the red part is water molecules on the comet. keyword here is slightly, it's still mostly green
 Quoting: SnowboardingAlien


Fair enough.

My question is how come no one is talking about Love Joy?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9825753


lovejoy looks interesting also, close approach to earth on nov 20th,

[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

I didn't realize how close it was and ISON has been stealing all of my attention, if I have clear skies tonight I'll try to get some pictures
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I think aliens are scolting ison comet, they want to save the earth, not us, the earth, the ressources, our time will come soon.
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"the outer part of the coma is slightly redder than the inner part"

If Comet Holmes was the blue kachina (purifier), this is for sure the red kachina (destroyer).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9825753


they are saying the red part is water molecules on the comet. keyword here is slightly, it's still mostly green
 Quoting: SnowboardingAlien


Fair enough.

My question is how come no one is talking about Love Joy?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9825753


lovejoy looks interesting also, close approach to earth on nov 20th,

[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

I didn't realize how close it was and ISON has been stealing all of my attention, if I have clear skies tonight I'll try to get some pictures
 Quoting: SnowboardingAlien


Yeah it gets close.

What I find interesting is how Love Joy takes an opposite path as ISON. I am no astronomer but feel as if there is more to that than meets the eye....

I'd love to see the pics if possible.
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Ison's tail debris was what I was worried about and I read that there is no fragmentation happening, which is good for us here on earth. It looks like a nice, normal comet with interesting features. The trajectory after perihelion isn't going to affect us from what I have gathered.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48069621


Oh come on don't you know? This comet will be an incredible disaster! It will be the end of the world as we know it! The sky is falling the sky is falling! lmao the tards around here are afraid of their own shadow.

1rof1
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When we slam into the tail debris on January 12 or so, do inhale would ya? Especially if you are in the Northeastern/upper midwest. tounge

Could be some real goodies in the air for you.
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:yeahman:

Yep, my worst fears have been confirmed.

Thank You, OP.

See also:

Thread: Just got a triple check on Comet ISON being Wormwood

Thread: Comet ISON changes course: headed straight for Earth

Thread: Delta IV Heavy Rocket Launched From Vandenberg in Last Ditch Effort to Stop "ISON" Deep Impact
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This means the comet may be BRIGHTER then originally estimated. The estimations are already impressive indeed.


or ISON cracks and multiple comets emerge from the far side of the Sun that day.
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This means the comet may be BRIGHTER then originally estimated. The estimations are already impressive indeed.


or ISON cracks and multiple comets emerge from the far side of the Sun that day.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


From the Latest blog, ISON is still holding up.
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going to be interesting on november 28th-29th, trajectory estimates and if it breaks up or not!
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...on Oct 10th, Comet ISON will enter the field of view of the NASA STEREO/SECCHI HI-2A instrument.

[link to www.isoncampaign.org]
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So this means huge chunks of debris from the comet will be hit the earth when the earth enters the debris field?
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So this means huge chunks of debris from the comet will be hit the earth when the earth enters the debris field?
 Quoting: fishingnut


Not sure, Jan 10th-19th are on my watchlist though. I'm hoping for a meteor storm





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