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"White stealing Native Americans land"

 
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"White stealing Native Americans land"
My sister's father is your "stereotypical" drunk, no job, living off the government, native. Hes completely brain washed my sister that the "white people" stole the natives land.. bla bla bla.. and that we still OWE them. So now my sister has this holier than though attitude like everything needs to be handed to her and everything is now a "racist" issue..

How do i explain to her that this happened so so soooo long ago, and 99 percent of natives dont really give a shit about their ancestors.. they are just looking for bullshit excuses to continue to not have a job, plus it was the natives that said their land cant be bought.. this is so annoying
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10/09/2013 11:02 PM
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White people DID steal the native land, just like white people have stolen everything else.
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Re: "White stealing Native Americans land"
White people DID steal the native land, just like white people have stolen everything else.
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Thats not what i meant to say.. obviously, yes i understand that. Whats annoying is natives arent forced to live on the reservation, and when they choose to do so they get pretty damn good benefits. But they are all juicing this for more than what its worth.. this happened 100s of years ago. It affects them in the present, how?
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hey op, is that you? >>> dance
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10/09/2013 11:06 PM

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It is the mentality of people who have been victimized. Blame it all on someone else. I don't think you can change it.
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Native Americans did not believe in land ownership.
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Re: "White stealing Native Americans land"
White people DID steal the native land, just like white people have stolen everything else.
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It's called war, and you lost.
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10/09/2013 11:24 PM
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Re: "White stealing Native Americans land"
White people DID steal the native land, just like white people have stolen everything else.
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It's called war, and you lost.
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Actually its called being colonized and the indigenous peoples being wiped out by those doing the colonizing.

Its happened many times before and will happen again.
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10/09/2013 11:26 PM
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Re: "White stealing Native Americans land"
White people DID steal the native land, just like white people have stolen everything else.
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It's called war, and you lost.
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Actually its called being colonized and the indigenous peoples being wiped out by those doing the colonizing.

Its happened many times before and will happen again.
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Yes, and these "Great" people didn't stand a chance.

Live with it, your ancestors sucked.
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10/09/2013 11:31 PM
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The same may be said of us by our future generations one day.
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10/09/2013 11:53 PM
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sorry that you feel that way...growing up and being marginalized and treated poorly, reading books in a school that taught me to be ashamed, the system I was taught to uphold and respect gave me nothing but grief despite my hoping for the best

I guess I should have known better or moved or changed my skin colour because the cops and everybody else might have treated me different according to your fantasy world if I only "moved" or wasn't so f'king needy ( where were you my whole life you brilliant prick because you could have spoken to all the morans I've met and saved me trouble)

you have absolutely no idea what the hell you are talking about

I surmise you are 13 years old or arrested in development at that age and perhaps a white girl too boot...your modus operandi tells me so ( maybe that's your inner world speaking)

stfu op

the only reason I ever got work is because some stupid prick hired me because he thought I was italian and fired me because he found out later I was native...go to hell you idiot
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indians would never steal land from one another... no wait.
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sorry that you feel that way...growing up and being marginalized and treated poorly, reading books in a school that taught me to be ashamed, the system I was taught to uphold and respect gave me nothing but grief despite my hoping for the best

I guess I should have known better or moved or changed my skin colour because the cops and everybody else might have treated me different according to your fantasy world if I only "moved" or wasn't so f'king needy ( where were you my whole life you brilliant prick because you could have spoken to all the morans I've met and saved me trouble)

you have absolutely no idea what the hell you are talking about

I surmise you are 13 years old or arrested in development at that age and perhaps a white girl too boot...your modus operandi tells me so ( maybe that's your inner world speaking)

stfu op

the only reason I ever got work is because some stupid prick hired me because he thought I was italian and fired me because he found out later I was native...go to hell you idiot
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time you took back what's yours, ain it?
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10/10/2013 12:05 AM
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Re: "White stealing Native Americans land"
White people DID steal the native land, just like white people have stolen everything else.
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It's called war, and you lost.
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NO IT'S CALLED ALIEN INFESTATION AND YOU ARE THE ALIEN !!

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Its called bringing arrows to a gun fight.
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Its called invasion and occupation. This country continues the practice today in other parts of the world.

What do we get for it? Crushing debt and future failure. Remember how the Roman Empire overextended and eventually failed? They thought the party would ever end. History does repeat.
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Its called invasion and occupation. This country continues the practice today in other parts of the world.

What do we get for it? Crushing debt and future failure. Remember how the Roman Empire overextended and eventually failed? They thought the party would ever end. History does repeat.
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yup. and the funniest part is where the subjects cheer the empire. as if they're getting any part of the loot. morans, in deed.
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10/10/2013 12:23 AM

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Re: "White stealing Native Americans land"
Everyone's ancestors stole everyone's else ancestors land, going back to when humans were invented.

Just because something bad happened to your family hundreds of years ago, doesn't give you an excuse to sit around drinking and doing nothing.
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10/10/2013 12:37 AM
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Everyone's ancestors stole everyone's else ancestors land, going back to when humans were invented.

Just because something bad happened to your family hundreds of years ago, doesn't give you an excuse to sit around drinking and doing nothing.
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Tell that to the Islamists who actually want to harm you.
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Re: "White stealing Native Americans land"
White people DID steal the native land, just like white people have stolen everything else.
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ok you win
all the white people will go back across the ocean

GOOD FUCKING LUCK!
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Re: "White stealing Native Americans land"
White people DID steal the native land, just like white people have stolen everything else.
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ok you win
all the white people will go back across the ocean

GOOD FUCKING LUCK!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47862176


why is it black or white with you lot? there's enough fucking room in north america to let natives have a reasonable amount of land, where they can govern themselves and live as they choose. but that wouldn't do, would it. stick'em in a concentration camp, I'm sorry, reservation, treat them like shit, beat'em down and then tell'em it's all their fault.

you don't wanna see the truth, because it would probably mean YOU would have to change your attitude.
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Don't fear folks, 200 years from now when we are all dead and gone, China will be celebrating "Thanksgiving" on the North American continent.
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First of all whites did not take over the continent because they had guns and Indians had arrows. Indians kept their invasion at bay quite well just like every other non gun culture kept the whites from moving in and becoming the main population. For example: China, India, Africa, South America. Pretty much every place except Europe is still primarily the proper indigenous race that originated there.

The difference with the North Americans is they unlike the other continents were the one culture that did not have the habit of continuously sleeping in the vicinity of their livestock and other animals. Europeans had mice and other vermin surrounding them, the cattle at night were kept in the lower part of the house with the sheep, the dogs slept with them. Cats roaming around. As a result Europeans were affected by one plague after the other of various disease over the centuries. Millions died again and again. China also had this close animal proximity and so did India. The North Americans bathed more frequently and did not have to survive being caked in filth constantly and did not have the centuries of animal viral load from close proximity with livestock and vermin. But unfortunately this meant they did not have the immunity to this viral stew the whites harbored.

Some of the initial explorers in the 1400's brought with them one of the many diseases swirling around Europe. The Indians had no exposure to that and it was a viral apocalypse from shore to shore. Entire regions were wiped out with only a few people left of an entire village. Only at that point were white colonists able to get a foothold.

Also helping them at that time was Englands new "export the gullible to America to get rich" scam. The poor and less successful whites that frequently were only able to afford housing in the less desirable swamp regions of England were the primary customer of this scam. Unfortunately they also harbored malaria which did not exist in North America till the English brought it. The few Indians that survived the viral apocalypse then had to deal with malaria.

As a result America is just Europe version 2 and an entire continent containing a unique culture just as unique as the difference between European, Asian, Polynesian and other cultures was extincted leaving Earth emptier.

One side effect though. The Indians reaction to the stench of white settlers and their horrible hygiene finally got to the settlers pride and as a result white settlers adopted Native American bathing habits and now America is one of the more bathing obsessed countries on Earth. Even to this day if you visit England they do not bath as often and the greasy hair look is more prevalent.

Also even though white settlers initially started with the same failed government structure they escaped in Europe, with a bunch of nation states arguing all the time, when they finally stopped and thought about it they created an Indian style of government for the new country of America. The founders were interested in how the Native Americans kept several large nations at peace and under one rule even though there was no king. So they invited the Iroquois government leaders as consultants. Then they directly adopted a governmental system that at that time existed in only one place on Earth and that was the very community of Indians in the area the founders of Americas government lived.
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Re: "White stealing Native Americans land"
White people DID steal the native land, just like white people have stolen everything else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48144151


It's called war, and you lost.
 Quoting: Arcana


Actually its called being colonized and the indigenous peoples being wiped out by those doing the colonizing.

Its happened many times before and will happen again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47706286


Indigenous? Hmmm.
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typo: pretty much every place except America (not Europe) has the proper indigenous population that belongs there. Europes indigenous culture is the whites.
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now peopaganda
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typo: pretty much every place except America (not Europe) has the proper indigenous population that belongs there. Europes indigenous culture is the whites.
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I see. S'that so?
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typo: pretty much every place except America (not Europe) has the proper indigenous population that belongs there. Europes indigenous culture is the whites.
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I see. S'that so?
 Quoting: VeryNigh


Can anyone explain the difference between walking across a land bridge, hiking up from Latin America/Mexico, and riding a boat across the ocean as far as creating 'indigenous people' go?

Nobody planted "Native American Seeds" in America. They did not 'grow' here nor did anyone 'grow' anywhere. Rather we all came from somewhere else.

Native American tribes were always warring with one another. But somehow, because perhaps they were on a certain patch of land for XXX number of years before Europeans, they have claim to land that they, just like Europeans, migrated to?

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typo: pretty much every place except America (not Europe) has the proper indigenous population that belongs there. Europes indigenous culture is the whites.
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I see. S'that so?
 Quoting: VeryNigh


Can anyone explain the difference between walking across a land bridge, hiking up from Latin America/Mexico, and riding a boat across the ocean as far as creating 'indigenous people' go?

Nobody planted "Native American Seeds" in America. They did not 'grow' here nor did anyone 'grow' anywhere. Rather we all came from somewhere else.

Native American tribes were always warring with one another. But somehow, because perhaps they were on a certain patch of land for XXX number of years before Europeans, they have claim to land that they, just like Europeans, migrated to?
 Quoting: VeryNigh


as far as I remember, they greeted europeans in a friendly manner and were happy to share, within reason. it was the europeans that yanked on that little finger till they'd torn off the whole hand.

maybe that's how you'd like to be treated by guests visiting your house? after all, the earth under your house doesn't belong to you, does it?

it's a question of decency.
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They had a war and won it fair and square that is not stealing

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