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THE ILLUMINATI KING NATAL CHART.

 
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At least he's honest and upfront about things! LOL.

Seeking more input on your chart, OP? I read it for you in another thread you posted about it earlier.

You seem really stuck on this idea that your chart is predicting you'll be in some position of significant power. A natal chart is really representative of a person's potential and is not necessarily predictive, and how the energies inherent in the chart manifest are all dictated by one's own free will. You could be an emperor, or just a really authoritative janitor.

Astrology is the map, not the territory. Don't put so much faith in something like this that you lose yourself to it.

You need to consider present and future influences on the natal chart. These can be found in your solar return chart. I am not that experienced with predictive astrology so don't ask me to read one for you. If you have specific questions about yourself and your future, look into horary astrology, wherein you cast a chart for a question and read the planetary significators and their aspects to help guide you toward the answers. I have some experience with this.

Again, remember that this is just a map of your inherent tendencies and energies manifesting at the time of your birth. You are not your birth chart. You have free will and can become whatever you wish. If you want to be an illuminati emperor, the chart might support you, but it may equally support something else entirely. The choice is up to you.
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are you my AC friend from my other thread?

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At least he's honest and upfront about things! LOL.

Seeking more input on your chart, OP? I read it for you in another thread you posted about it earlier.

You seem really stuck on this idea that your chart is predicting you'll be in some position of significant power. A natal chart is really representative of a person's potential and is not necessarily predictive, and how the energies inherent in the chart manifest are all dictated by one's own free will. You could be an emperor, or just a really authoritative janitor.

Astrology is the map, not the territory. Don't put so much faith in something like this that you lose yourself to it.

You need to consider present and future influences on the natal chart. These can be found in your solar return chart. I am not that experienced with predictive astrology so don't ask me to read one for you. If you have specific questions about yourself and your future, look into horary astrology, wherein you cast a chart for a question and read the planetary significators and their aspects to help guide you toward the answers. I have some experience with this.

Again, remember that this is just a map of your inherent tendencies and energies manifesting at the time of your birth. You are not your birth chart. You have free will and can become whatever you wish. If you want to be an illuminati emperor, the chart might support you, but it may equally support something else entirely. The choice is up to you.
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are you my AC friend from my other thread?

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Yes. Sorry I don't post more rapid updates on your threads- I like to pop in from time to time and keep updated on your story. Anyone who takes the initiative to read and interpret their own charts should be applauded.
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At least he's honest and upfront about things! LOL.

Seeking more input on your chart, OP? I read it for you in another thread you posted about it earlier.

You seem really stuck on this idea that your chart is predicting you'll be in some position of significant power. A natal chart is really representative of a person's potential and is not necessarily predictive, and how the energies inherent in the chart manifest are all dictated by one's own free will. You could be an emperor, or just a really authoritative janitor.

Astrology is the map, not the territory. Don't put so much faith in something like this that you lose yourself to it.

You need to consider present and future influences on the natal chart. These can be found in your solar return chart. I am not that experienced with predictive astrology so don't ask me to read one for you. If you have specific questions about yourself and your future, look into horary astrology, wherein you cast a chart for a question and read the planetary significators and their aspects to help guide you toward the answers. I have some experience with this.

Again, remember that this is just a map of your inherent tendencies and energies manifesting at the time of your birth. You are not your birth chart. You have free will and can become whatever you wish. If you want to be an illuminati emperor, the chart might support you, but it may equally support something else entirely. The choice is up to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46084613


are you my AC friend from my other thread?

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 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Yes. Sorry I don't post more rapid updates on your threads- I like to pop in from time to time and keep updated on your story. Anyone who takes the initiative to read and interpret their own charts should be applauded.
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don't be sorry. I appericiate your responses and advices which you give freely, I cannot ask you to respond faster.

mmm I have a problem with my mars square MC, moon sextile venus and in conjuction with AC.
I feel it hinders my masculine energies, it is easier for me to express femininity but this is a cause for internal conflicts, as I am conservative.
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with mars in saggitarius my masculine energies come into play when a revolution is needed, this is why I believe I will play a major part in the revolution.

but with mars squaring MC my I have a problem bringing those energies into my daily life.
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Hey Extremely Persistent!

The chart of the "king" has a Grand Air Trine. And a boat. A ferry. As he comes from the sky to ferry the souls in this life. Born in a ring of fire Solar Eclipse. Many years before you on the same date. Kings Day. January 6th.

The Alpha born on 12/25

The Omega born on 1/6

12th Night.

12th Life.

Not you son. But I would understand why you would feel so connected to him. The Grail King. The Judge. Being born days after the birth of a key relationship in his life.

Not so Illuminati though as ALL systems. This guy is here for the entire earth system. Not just one.

The only power involved is teaching others to take their true inborn powers back.

Peace
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keep dreaming.

lol I love how they cant deal with the fact he is young(old in the inside) and not a middleaged man.
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I love that you can't deal with the fact that you are stuck in a place that the true "king" never would be.

The true king is humble and mature. Not an immature young man saying look at me look at me look at me. Demanding that people believe you. When you have nothing to share but claim after claim. I have yet to see you impart one piece of knowledge here to others. That is what the king would do.

Dream on. You are tuned in but not him.

The ones watching and handling the situation know that they are middle aged and married for decades now.

Your heart will weigh heavy braggart. You will be devoured by the lioness at the gates if you continue will this willful pride.
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Hey Extremely Persistent!

The chart of the "king" has a Grand Air Trine. And a boat. A ferry. As he comes from the sky to ferry the souls in this life. Born in a ring of fire Solar Eclipse. Many years before you on the same date. Kings Day. January 6th.

The Alpha born on 12/25

The Omega born on 1/6

12th Night.

12th Life.

Not you son. But I would understand why you would feel so connected to him. The Grail King. The Judge. Being born days after the birth of a key relationship in his life.

Not so Illuminati though as ALL systems. This guy is here for the entire earth system. Not just one.

The only power involved is teaching others to take their true inborn powers back.

Peace
 Quoting: Katie Scarlett 44


keep dreaming.

lol I love how they cant deal with the fact he is young(old in the inside) and not a middleaged man.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


I love that you can't deal with the fact that you are stuck in a place that the true "king" never would be.

The true king is humble and mature. Not an immature young man saying look at me look at me look at me. Demanding that people believe you. When you have nothing to share but claim after claim. I have yet to see you impart one piece of knowledge here to others. That is what the king would do.

Dream on. You are tuned in but not him.

The ones watching and handling the situation know that they are middle aged and married for decades now.

Your heart will weigh heavy braggart. You will be devoured by the lioness at the gates if you continue will this willful pride.
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share your daddy's birth chart.
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Uranus - Interpretation of the 14° Capricorn symbolic degree

"A man carrying a sheep on his shoulders stares at a fire burning on a tripod."

Fiery, shrewd, and ambitious character. Life is most likely to be full of adventures and passion, and marked by a strong attachment to the motherland. One may be involved in political upheavals and play an important role in the history of one's country. Success can be achieved in hunting and all occupations related to animal husbandry and trade, archaeology, war, politics, or law. If the natal chart shows introverted tendencies, this degree describes an intense inner life and a spiritual leader driven by noble ideals.

Moon - Interpretation of the 8° Aquarius symbolic degree

"On a rock split into two by a lightning strike, a man carries another man on his back."

Serious, lucid, and tactful character. One does not shun difficulties and displays a great deal of courage, especially when anyone needs to be rescued. Physical and moral strength turns destructive lightning bolts into an inspirational energy which illuminates the path towards wisdom and spirituality. Success and fame can be achieved in sports and in all risky occupations requiring bravery, particularly those aiming at helping people in distress.

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bro first of all
your degree interpretations are 1 degree off :)

the first degree starts with 0 and ends with 00.59.59

so you have to round them upwards
for example sun degree is 16 cap not 15

second how come you say that vesta is in 29 virgo when she's in 25?

vesta moves 4 degrees in a few days

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bro first of all
your degree interpretations are 1 degree off :)

the first degree starts with 0 and ends with 00.59.59

so you have to round them upwards
for example sun degree is 16 cap not 15

second how come you say that vesta is in 29 virgo when she's in 25?

vesta moves 4 degrees in a few days
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all checked, this chart is not accurate, vesta in 28 degree, not 24 as shown in this chart.
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third, you can check also this set of symbols
they are in tune with the aquarian frequency, opposed to sabian symbols which are almost 100 years old

[link to aquaorfire.net]
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third, you can check also this set of symbols
they are in tune with the aquarian frequency, opposed to sabian symbols which are almost 100 years old

[link to aquaorfire.net]
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ty. so should I always add one degree?
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bro first of all
your degree interpretations are 1 degree off :)

the first degree starts with 0 and ends with 00.59.59

so you have to round them upwards
for example sun degree is 16 cap not 15

second how come you say that vesta is in 29 virgo when she's in 25?

vesta moves 4 degrees in a few days
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all checked, this chart is not accurate, vesta in 28 degree, not 24 as shown in this chart.
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ok, but did you understood the first point? because it's essential.
the degree symbols have to be rounded upwards not downwards like you do
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third, you can check also this set of symbols
they are in tune with the aquarian frequency, opposed to sabian symbols which are almost 100 years old

[link to aquaorfire.net]
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ty. so should I always add one degree?
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yep 1st degree starts from 0
30th degree ends with 30
so 29.14 is the Last degree (30) not the 29th
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also tell me from all the points in the chart which attracts you most?
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also tell me from all the points in the chart which attracts you most?
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points as in sings ? or general concepts arising from the chart?
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also tell me from all the points in the chart which attracts you most?
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points as in sings ? or general concepts arising from the chart?
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planets, asteroids etc
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also tell me from all the points in the chart which attracts you most?
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points as in sings ? or general concepts arising from the chart?
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planets, asteroids etc
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well id say all of them
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I am in the process of finding my signs in the link you gave me.
I must say that I find the original degree and the +1 degree to fit me, could it be because of the only marginal change?
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I am in the process of finding my signs in the link you gave me.
I must say that I find the original degree and the +1 degree to fit me, could it be because of the only marginal change?
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in essence you can resonate with all of them
for the spark of infinite spirit lies in you as well as in all those symbols.
soul resonance is beyond personality/ego constraints
so in essence the entire 360 degree wheel tells the archetypal story of Humanity and at the same of the Subjective Journey of the Spiritual Seeker
the same as the journey of the fool in tarot
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tell have you already met Sophia, or the Mother of the World, or whatever name you care to call Her?
are you able to recognize Her Voice?
to open Your Soul to Her?
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tell have you already met Sophia, or the Mother of the World, or whatever name you care to call Her?
are you able to recognize Her Voice?
to open Your Soul to Her?
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i don't know, you would have to tell me what the experience of her manifestation feels like.
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tell have you already met Sophia, or the Mother of the World, or whatever name you care to call Her?
are you able to recognize Her Voice?
to open Your Soul to Her?
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i don't know, you would have to tell me what the experience of her manifestation feels like.
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do i feel the pains of the earth?
yes i do.
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tell have you already met Sophia, or the Mother of the World, or whatever name you care to call Her?
are you able to recognize Her Voice?
to open Your Soul to Her?
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i don't know, you would have to tell me what the experience of her manifestation feels like.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


for example read the passage below as Her adressing You (the Masculine Spirit embodied in you, more precisely). and see how you feel Her

"A man sheering sheep

We are all around you. We clamor here. There is something we need from you. But we don’t know how to ask. You must sort it out for us. We only know to come here and gather around you and search out your goodness for us.
We most prefer you when you cast off your human guise of being so busy and knowing what you’re doing, in order to join us in the process of divesting ourselves of everything that still is in our way. We can use you best when you are stripped to meet us, plain, straightforward, just here for what comes each time.
We need you to be clear. You are the man. We need you to not be attached, not be anxious, not be tangled up like we are. We must have your best now. For there are too many of us and not enough of you.
We need all the help we can get. You hold a focus and you stay on it. We can only distract you. Yet it is our job, all of us, to give you a hard time, more than you can handle. For we have to be sure that you’re really here with us.
Yes, we are fully aware that you do not carry extraordinary virtues. We’re not accusing you of being a genius. We are imploring you to give us your best effort every time and that is all.
For we, your fate, your companions, we know you so well. You were that shepherd who got us to this point in the first place. And we know you will be here to take it further every time. That’s who you are.
We do make one extra special request. Do not deny what we say. Do not shrug off, throw off, make such light of what it does for all of us when you stay on the beam. So let us take you away from what you want to do and let us restore you to the recognition that you are carrying a very great treasure. And if you give it away to each one of us so easily, that shows us how true this treasure is in life.
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tell have you already met Sophia, or the Mother of the World, or whatever name you care to call Her?
are you able to recognize Her Voice?
to open Your Soul to Her?
 Quoting: andreidita


i don't know, you would have to tell me what the experience of her manifestation feels like.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


for example read the passage below as Her adressing You (the Masculine Spirit embodied in you, more precisely). and see how you feel Her

"A man sheering sheep

We are all around you. We clamor here. There is something we need from you. But we don’t know how to ask. You must sort it out for us. We only know to come here and gather around you and search out your goodness for us.
We most prefer you when you cast off your human guise of being so busy and knowing what you’re doing, in order to join us in the process of divesting ourselves of everything that still is in our way. We can use you best when you are stripped to meet us, plain, straightforward, just here for what comes each time.
We need you to be clear. You are the man. We need you to not be attached, not be anxious, not be tangled up like we are. We must have your best now. For there are too many of us and not enough of you.
We need all the help we can get. You hold a focus and you stay on it. We can only distract you. Yet it is our job, all of us, to give you a hard time, more than you can handle. For we have to be sure that you’re really here with us.
Yes, we are fully aware that you do not carry extraordinary virtues. We’re not accusing you of being a genius. We are imploring you to give us your best effort every time and that is all.
For we, your fate, your companions, we know you so well. You were that shepherd who got us to this point in the first place. And we know you will be here to take it further every time. That’s who you are.
We do make one extra special request. Do not deny what we say. Do not shrug off, throw off, make such light of what it does for all of us when you stay on the beam. So let us take you away from what you want to do and let us restore you to the recognition that you are carrying a very great treasure. And if you give it away to each one of us so easily, that shows us how true this treasure is in life.
"
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I don't think I contacted Sophia, im connected to many tubes, but I don't think im connected to Sophia if I understand what you mean by her.
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It's about execution

The more people you exectute the closer you get in becoming King
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its about exercising judgement, and my judgements are merciful
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It's about execution

The more people you exectute the closer you get in becoming King
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


its about exercising judgement, and my judgements are merciful
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Weak Leaders get no respect
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


poor logic to associate merciful judgement with weakness.
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It's about execution

The more people you exectute the closer you get in becoming King
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


its about exercising judgement, and my judgements are merciful
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Weak Leaders get no respect
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


poor logic to associate merciful judgement with weakness.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


the quality of strong judges is that they can come up with a merciful verdict with out crossing the cold lines that separate justice from injustice.
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Weak Leaders get no respect
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


poor logic to associate merciful judgement with weakness.
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the quality of strong judges is that they can come up with a merciful verdict with out crossing the cold lines that separate justice from injustice.
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Well then

Let's crown you right now lol
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


start the ceremony
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the quality of strong judges is that they can come up with a merciful verdict with out crossing the cold lines that separate justice from injustice.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


Well then

Let's crown you right now lol
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


start the ceremony
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP


You have to fight Arnold Schwarzenegger first

He wants the title
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


it is not my aim to to start unnecessary battles, I will stand my ground if life will put me and Arnold in opposition.

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