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House Rules Changes Just Prior to Shutdown... Now only 1 person can bring a vote to the house to end this.. They hoped you wouldnt notice.

 
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Who's the lucky lady?
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Notice?......Notice what? Looks to me that the Republicans FINALLY beat the Democrats at their own parliamentary gamesmanship! Here, here!!
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 Quoting: .Kaos


House Resoluiton 368 is being cited.. HR 368

from Thomas.gov:

H.R.368 -- To amend title 10, United States Code, to require an audiometric test of each member of the Armed Forces before the separation of the member. (Introduced in House - IH)


HR 368 IH


113th CONGRESS


1st Session



H. R. 368

To amend title 10, United States Code, to require an audiometric test of each member of the Armed Forces before the separation of the member.



IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES



January 23, 2013

Mr. BENISHEK introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services

-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------



A BILL

To amend title 10, United States Code, to require an audiometric test of each member of the Armed Forces before the separation of the member.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. AUDIOMETRIC TEST REQUIRED BEFORE SEPARATION OF MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES.

(a) In General- Chapter 59 of title 10, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following new section:

`Sec. 1179. Audiometric test required

`Under regulations prescribed by the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department shall ensure that a member of the armed forces under the jurisdiction of the Secretary receives an audiometric test at the 8000 Hz frequency (or other test that the Secretary of Defense determines has the ability to discover potential future hearing loss) to evaluate the hearing of the member during the 90-day period before the date on which the member is discharged, separated, or retired.'.
(b) Clerical Amendment- The table of sections at the beginning of such chapter is amended by adding after the item relating to section 1178 the following new item:
`1179. Audiometric test required.'.
(c) Effective Date- Section 1179 of title 10, United States Code, as added by subsection (a), shall apply with respect to a member being discharged, separated, or retired from the Armed Forces on or after the date that is 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act.


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Is this what the Chair is referring to there? Or have I myself got mis-directed in my search?
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Timestamp 0:23 is the place where the Chairman is citing something... to me it is sounding like House Resoluton 368.. maybe I am mis-hearing? Gotta check the Journal, the offical transcript of this scene.
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Timestamp 0:23 is the place where the Chairman is citing something... to me it is sounding like House Resoluton 368.. maybe I am mis-hearing? Gotta check the Journal, the offical transcript of this scene.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47039989


Also restated at timestamp 1:36-ff
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Not a political type but it seems to me they did the same in the House as was done in the senate where everything goes through one man, Harry Reid.

Probably not a good thing but they probably felt they had no choice as it seems reid is the guy causing all the problems.
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If it be really House Resolution 368, then I am wondering why Rep. Hollen is not right then bringing up and Quoting outloud the actual Text of H.R. 368 in order to show clearly what a baffoon this Speaker Pro Temp (the Chairman here) really is and just how the Speaker is trying to do pure majic and mis-direction?

Something is very weird, strange, egmatic, and mysterious about this whole scene.
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It appears to me that this Speaker Pro Temp is doing nothing more that pure dictorial decree without any law whatsoever behind it.

And even the Parlimentarians there are in on it...

Very strange, very dangerous.
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Further more the Speaker Pro Temp's citation of H.R. 368 is notable in that H.R. 368 has not even ever been passed in a vote..

again from Thomas.gov

H.R.368
Latest Title: To amend title 10, United States Code, to require an audiometric test of each member of the Armed Forces before the separation of the member.
Sponsor: Rep Benishek, Dan [MI-1] (introduced 1/23/2013) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 2/21/2013 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Military Personnel.
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The Speaker Pro Temp this many many times clearly says, House Resolution 368
House Resolution 368
House Resolution 368
House Resolution 368
House Resolution 368

The Speaker Pro Temp's doing Magic.. Smoke, Mirrors, and Magical Mis-direction.. and apparently Rep Hollen is not challenging that Magic in the least in any counter-spell.

Smoke and Mirrors, folks.
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Anyone who has ever paid any attention to the House of Rep. is well aware that the rules are simply a sham. They pretend that there is rule of law but it's a show and nothing more. This kind of thing has been going on for years.
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RIP Democracy
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Where is all the conservative anger??? Oh yea being brainwashed by th media...carry on
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Anyone who has ever paid any attention to the House of Rep. is well aware that the rules are simply a sham. They pretend that there is rule of law but it's a show and nothing more. This kind of thing has been going on for years.
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True enough... and very few have even called them on the carpet for it...
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House Calendar No. 63
113TH CONGRESS
1ST SESSION H. RES. 368
[Report No. 113–240]

Relating to consideration of the joint resolution (H.J. Res. 59) making continuing appropriations for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
SEPTEMBER 30, 2013
Mr. SESSIONS, from the Committee on Rules, reported the following resolution;
which was referred to the House Calendar and ordered to be printed

RESOLUTION
Relating to consideration of the joint resolution (H.J. Res.
59) making continuing appropriations for fiscal year
2014, and for other purposes.
1 Resolved, That the House hereby (1) takes from the
2 Speaker’s table the joint resolution (H.J. Res. 59) making
3 continuing appropriations for fiscal year 2014, and for
4 other purposes, with the House amendment to the Senate
5 amendment thereto, (2) insists on its amendment, and (3)
6 requests a conference with the Senate thereon.

•HRES 368 RH
1 SEC. 2. Any motion pursuant to clause 4 of rule XXII
2 relating to House Joint Resolution 59 may be offered only
3 by the Majority Leader or his designee.

House Calendar No. 63
113TH CONGRESS
1ST SESSION H. RES. 368
[Report No. 113–240]

RESOLUTION
Relating to consideration of the joint resolution
(H.J. Res. 59) making continuing appropriations
for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes.
SEPTEMBER 30, 2013
Referred to the House Calendar and ordered to be
printed

VerDate Mar 15 2010 04:16 Oct 01, 2013 Jkt 029200 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 6651 Sfmt 6651 E:\BILLS\HR368.RH HR368 tjames on DSK6SPTVN1PROD with BILLS
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Notice?......Notice what? Looks to me that the Republicans FINALLY beat the Democrats at their own parliamentary gamesmanship! Here, here!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47916277


Yes, both houses of congress change the rules all the time. This is likely in retaliation for Harry Reid being the only one allowed to do this in the Senate.

About time the House did this!
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Who is....the One?





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