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F F S User ID: 47612618 United Kingdom 10/18/2013 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Via these alleged links with higher powers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3557643 ie, Government and Media (Call to Gordon Brown, funding tycoons, links to other Government enterprises) So basically flexing their muscles among bigshots gives them a little shroud of protection and ability to overpower certain portrayals and information. The crimewatch program was ridiculous. It neglected and contradicted a lot of what the parents have already stated. So who edited and gave the final word on that? Was that setup and paid for via the media links they are flexing? How corrupt are the police in this sort of scenario these days? Are they behind it all, or are they ruthless and not on anyones side? ie, where do the police stand against the likes of the media, the BBC, the government in reality? Looks to me like the BBC situation unfolding all over again. The police are less corrupt than they were before. And also the fact of the Jimmy Savile coverup they will be more transparent than previously. Someone from the Met is going to be doing time soon, not for this but for 'plebgate', at least one of them fabricated the story or garnished it at least. Given that i would say there isn't a lot of love between the police and government, what with cuts etc and the above. So i'd like to think the Met are going to be proper bastards and do their job properly for a change |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23534110 United States 10/18/2013 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The dogs say the kid is dead. What's that got to do with the parents? The abductor could have done it. The parents know nothing and noone has proof otherwise or has said any differently. This McCann thing is for internet detectives to waste time with. How did her DNA get in a rental car 20 days after she went missing? My dear einstein, they may have had her clothings, toys or other items which might retain her DNA transported in the rental car!:dog1: Right, in the same spots the dogs smelled death? Come on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23534110 United States 10/18/2013 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still don't know how any parent - with even just a basic sense of responsibility and love - could leave three tinies in an unlocked apartment, near a main road, in the dark, in a foreign country. To claim it was "like dining in your own back garden" is beyond belief, when the apartment was not even visible from the Tapas bar. I know this is old stuff, but that child cried for 75 minutes on the night of 1 May, by Mrs. Fenn's statement - they were not checking, and that in itself makes the checking claims for the 3rd May all the more bizarre. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47931592 I completely agree! And that's what makes everything else they've said and done suspect. |
El_Duderino User ID: 48508336 Spain 10/18/2013 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48515793 The dogs say the kid is dead. What's that got to do with the parents? The abductor could have done it. The parents know nothing and noone has proof otherwise or has said any differently. This McCann thing is for internet detectives to waste time with. How did her DNA get in a rental car 20 days after she went missing? My dear einstein, they may have had her clothings, toys or other items which might retain her DNA transported in the rental car!:dog1: Right, in the same spots the dogs smelled death? Come on. The dog's identified the car key as well Last Edited by John Constantine on 10/18/2013 02:04 PM We are not children of celestial fuckin' light, walkin' arm-in-arm into the Age of Aquarius. We are wankers who wreck the planet an' piss on each other, 'til half the world's starvin' an' the other half's busy findin' new ways to keep from noticin' it. That's the fuckin' limit've our potential, believe me. :jcbanner: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23534110 United States 10/18/2013 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know, my husband and I have taken our children on many trips, by ourselves and with other couples, since they were babies. I can't help but compare, and there's just NO WAY I'd ever leave them alone in a foreign country with a door unlocked. We've let them stay in a cruise cabin with several other kids to watch a movie when they were 12 and 14, with walkie talkies. We've gone to the hotel lobby while they stayed in the room as older kids. But to leave a toddler and two babies in an unlocked room in a foreign country? I would be a nervous wreck. There's no way I could be convinced to do that. I can't imagine how ANYONE could do that. Based on that, and even just that, it says a lot for the mindset of these parents. It makes me disbelieve everything they've said, and believe anything is possible as to what happened. It just makes them totally incapable parents, period. You just don't do that! And why? Because it's dangerous and things happen! Who in their right mind doesn't know that, or needs to be convinced of that as a parent? No one. Everyone, every single parent knows that. No parent would take that chance. No parent would take that chance! Why did they? |
El_Duderino User ID: 48508336 Spain 10/18/2013 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The supposed '50 meters' distance from the tapas bar to the apartment... [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] We are not children of celestial fuckin' light, walkin' arm-in-arm into the Age of Aquarius. We are wankers who wreck the planet an' piss on each other, 'til half the world's starvin' an' the other half's busy findin' new ways to keep from noticin' it. That's the fuckin' limit've our potential, believe me. :jcbanner: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48506126 United Kingdom 10/18/2013 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is so much that has been ignored and left out by the UK media, it's quite scary really. The question is why? Quoting: El_Duderino Why? The same reason they left out Jimmy Savile, Elm Guest house. The same reasons the portugese police (goncarlo, him again) didnt investigate their own prime minister when the rich and famous went down for child abuse at a children's home, the same reason they cover everything up, because they are all in the same club. Child procurement, child rape, all on a massive scale and internationally linked but people cant help vilify a couple of idiot doctors who would rather get pissed than get a baby sitter. Easy way out isn't it? That part of portugal is rife with gangsters, smuggling this that and anything they want, holland, germany, north africa, UK. It's good to know the police never lie or are corrupt or plant evidence to protect their perverted mates. That's right, the PJ, juts like the british police are clean as a angels. Hewllet, Molseed, castree, riding yorks, dolphin square,carlos cruz, casa pia..... |
El_Duderino User ID: 48508336 Spain 10/18/2013 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is so much that has been ignored and left out by the UK media, it's quite scary really. The question is why? Quoting: El_Duderino Why? The same reason they left out Jimmy Savile, Elm Guest house. The same reasons the portugese police (goncarlo, him again) didnt investigate their own prime minister when the rich and famous went down for child abuse at a children's home, the same reason they cover everything up, because they are all in the same club. Child procurement, child rape, all on a massive scale and internationally linked but people cant help vilify a couple of idiot doctors who would rather get pissed than get a baby sitter. Easy way out isn't it? That part of portugal is rife with gangsters, smuggling this that and anything they want, holland, germany, north africa, UK. It's good to know the police never lie or are corrupt or plant evidence to protect their perverted mates. That's right, the PJ, juts like the british police are clean as a angels. Hewllet, Molseed, castree, riding yorks, dolphin square,carlos cruz, casa pia..... We are not children of celestial fuckin' light, walkin' arm-in-arm into the Age of Aquarius. We are wankers who wreck the planet an' piss on each other, 'til half the world's starvin' an' the other half's busy findin' new ways to keep from noticin' it. That's the fuckin' limit've our potential, believe me. :jcbanner: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46398732 United States 10/18/2013 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can someone review these and come online on this excellent thread and interpret them (with theories) for all of us? The creche records are no good and the "last photos" have clearly been tampered with. Check out The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann forum--tons of good research. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46398732 United States 10/18/2013 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know, my husband and I have taken our children on many trips, by ourselves and with other couples, since they were babies. I can't help but compare, and there's just NO WAY I'd ever leave them alone in a foreign country with a door unlocked. We've let them stay in a cruise cabin with several other kids to watch a movie when they were 12 and 14, with walkie talkies. We've gone to the hotel lobby while they stayed in the room as older kids. But to leave a toddler and two babies in an unlocked room in a foreign country? I would be a nervous wreck. There's no way I could be convinced to do that. I can't imagine how ANYONE could do that. Based on that, and even just that, it says a lot for the mindset of these parents. It makes me disbelieve everything they've said, and believe anything is possible as to what happened. It just makes them totally incapable parents, period. You just don't do that! And why? Because it's dangerous and things happen! Who in their right mind doesn't know that, or needs to be convinced of that as a parent? Quoting: Little Willow No one. Everyone, every single parent knows that. No parent would take that chance. No parent would take that chance! Why did they? They did so in order that they could fake an abduction after their child died in the apartment. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47931592 United Kingdom 10/18/2013 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know, my husband and I have taken our children on many trips, by ourselves and with other couples, since they were babies. I can't help but compare, and there's just NO WAY I'd ever leave them alone in a foreign country with a door unlocked. We've let them stay in a cruise cabin with several other kids to watch a movie when they were 12 and 14, with walkie talkies. We've gone to the hotel lobby while they stayed in the room as older kids. But to leave a toddler and two babies in an unlocked room in a foreign country? I would be a nervous wreck. There's no way I could be convinced to do that. I can't imagine how ANYONE could do that. Based on that, and even just that, it says a lot for the mindset of these parents. It makes me disbelieve everything they've said, and believe anything is possible as to what happened. It just makes them totally incapable parents, period. You just don't do that! And why? Because it's dangerous and things happen! Who in their right mind doesn't know that, or needs to be convinced of that as a parent? Quoting: Little Willow No one. Everyone, every single parent knows that. No parent would take that chance. No parent would take that chance! Why did they? In simple terms.....Everything had to be unlocked to stage an abduction of a child who possibly died days earlier.....That's why the Tapas pact created this pretending to look every 30 minutes bollocks on the night they had the abduction planned |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47931592 United Kingdom 10/18/2013 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Roberts 'Now we know' 2011 with thanks to McCannfiles: "Did you kill your daughter?" asks the lady journalist. Gerry answers: "No. That's an emphatic 'no.' I mean the ludicrous thing is. Errm... what... I suppose... what's been purported from Portugal is that Madeleine died in the apartment by an accident and we hid her body. Well, when did she have the accident and died? Cos... the only time she was left unattended was when we were at dinner, so if she died then, how could we have disposed of... hidden her body when there was an immediate search. It's just nonsense. So. An' if she died when we were in the apartment or fell injured, why would we... why would we cover that up?" KM (interjecting): "And it gets even more ludicrous, that we've obviously hidden her so incredibly well, where nobody's found her and we hid her (interviewer: 'incredibly well') so well that we then decided that we'd move her in the car which we hired weeks later and you know it's just ridiculous." Let's take this a step at a time. "Did you kill your daughter?" "No. That's an emphatic 'no.'" This is Gerry speaking don't forget. For any other innocent mortal 'Absolutely not' would have been a sufficient response. Not for Gerry though. Despite his subsequent claim, he gives a decidedly unemphatic answer - 'No.' What follows is meta-language, where he is describing his earlier articulation of a word and does not address the underlying semantics in any way. Incoherent and unnecessary expansion then takes us away from the original question, referencing what has been 'purported' in Portugal, namely that 'Madeleine died in the apartment by an accident and we hid her body.' Next comes a cunning locking of the incident to a specific time frame, with the suggestion that Madeleine could only have had an accident when unattended. But Gerry slips up in questioning how it would have been possible for them to have disposed of Madeleine's body. In immediately substituting the phrase hidden her body he has already told us what in fact happened. Excitedly he goes on to ask why the parents should have covered up an accident. Why indeed. It hardly comes as a surprise that Kate leaps in at this point, before Gerry's mouth can write any more bad cheques. She loses no time in elaborating upon the 'hide-and-seek' scenario played out that Thursday night, and the 'ludicrous' idea of their hire car being involved afterwards. But the damage has already been done. The script, charitably outlined by Goncalo Amaral and fleshed out here by the McCanns, so as to exonerate themselves, depends entirely for its effect upon the premise that little Madeleine disappeared inexplicably that Thursday night; a premise that becomes less clear the closer it is examined. And Gerry is right. It wouldn't make sense to conceal an accident. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47931592 United Kingdom 10/18/2013 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can someone review these and come online on this excellent thread and interpret them (with theories) for all of us? In simple terms, the kids should have been given bracelets to determine their age in respect of what crèche or older clubs could attend.....In all the photos of all the kids of the Tapas 9, none were wearing any. The crèche records show Madeleine on an occasion being signed in and signed back out 15 minutes later. It seems, if true Madeleine died a few days earlier than the reported abduction story, and so began a pretence of crèche entries. In essence, kids were booked in under different names. Madeleine could have been booked in using another of the Tapas9s kid.... It seems these doctors all had a pact....And that was confirmed by David Payne to reporters... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47931592 United Kingdom 10/18/2013 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.mccannfiles.com] Once again, a link to the crèche records. Study the entries and work it out. Especially on the 1st....But study them all. Look at the names and times, and handwriting. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3004664 United Kingdom 10/18/2013 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Consider this: Gordon Brown involved; McCann's meet the pope; Tony Blair offered help; Foreign Secretary David Miliband called McCann's; Richard Branson involved in fund raising; Spokesman was Clarence Mitchell; etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46398732 United States 10/18/2013 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can someone review these and come online on this excellent thread and interpret them (with theories) for all of us? In simple terms, the kids should have been given bracelets to determine their age in respect of what crèche or older clubs could attend.....In all the photos of all the kids of the Tapas 9, none were wearing any. The crèche records show Madeleine on an occasion being signed in and signed back out 15 minutes later. It seems, if true Madeleine died a few days earlier than the reported abduction story, and so began a pretence of crèche entries. In essence, kids were booked in under different names. Madeleine could have been booked in using another of the Tapas9s kid.... It seems these doctors all had a pact....And that was confirmed by David Payne to reporters... good explanation! thx! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48401657 United Kingdom 10/18/2013 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.mccannfiles.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47931592 Once again, a link to the crèche records. Study the entries and work it out. Especially on the 1st....But study them all. Look at the names and times, and handwriting. why cant elizabeth naylors parents remember their childs first name!!! or could Gerry not remember? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47931592 United Kingdom 10/18/2013 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.mccannfiles.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47931592 Once again, a link to the crèche records. Study the entries and work it out. Especially on the 1st....But study them all. Look at the names and times, and handwriting. why cant elizabeth naylors parents remember their childs first name!!! or could Gerry not remember? If you look at the 1st Kate(mother) signs her in but not out. Note the tennis remark. Crimewatch produced a snippet of Madeleine at the tennis court but it seems to be false. I believe this is when David Payne made his visit to Kate when Gerry asked him to make sure the family were ok. Its very likely Madeleine died on this day and an elaborate plan was put into effect. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47525324 United Kingdom 10/18/2013 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. Abducted; 2. Accidental death and parents disposed of the body; 3. Satanical ritual and parents disposed of the body; 4. Madeleine, a special child, given to the Catholic church to fulfill her "destiny"; The most popular, alternative theory, is #2. But what if there is more to this story, what if Madeleine is a special child with a destiny to fulfill? What could this destiny be? Could it be related to the Catholic church? Could it be related to something that happened on Sunday, prior to the screening of Crimewatch on Monday? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47931592 United Kingdom 10/18/2013 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Processo Volume I, page 109 Session Parent's location Time in Signature Time out Signature AM ROOM* Kate and Gerry's mobile phone numbers 09:20 Gerry McCann 12:30 Cat Nanny [Catriona Baker] PM Kate's mobile phone number 14:45 Kate McCann 17:30 Kate McCann [signed as 'Kate Healy' This copy and paste is a bit fucked up....Just go look at the 2nd of May to understand |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47459015 United States 10/18/2013 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a great article that came out today... "Ever since day one, there has been huge skepticism over the legitimacy of an abduction. Within just 150 days since she was declared missing, Portuguese police had reached a conclusion that Madeline had in fact fallen down steps behind the villa where the McCann's were staying, with her suffering significant enough injuries to kill her. They accused the parents of panicking upon seeing this, hiding her body, before claiming she was abducted due to fears of being charged with man-slaughter." [link to www.the-daily-paper.co.uk] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47931592 United Kingdom 10/18/2013 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What happened to Madeleine? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47525324 1. Abducted; 2. Accidental death and parents disposed of the body; 3. Satanical ritual and parents disposed of the body; 4. Madeleine, a special child, given to the Catholic church to fulfill her "destiny"; The most popular, alternative theory, is #2. But what if there is more to this story, what if Madeleine is a special child with a destiny to fulfill? What could this destiny be? Could it be related to the Catholic church? Could it be related to something that happened on Sunday, prior to the screening of Crimewatch on Monday? What happened....am interested |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47525324 United Kingdom 10/18/2013 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On 13th October the "Pope Francis entrusted the world to Our Lady of Fatima" On 14th October Crimewatch ran a hyped-up reconstruction about Madeline. ------------------------------- At the end of Sunday's Mass, Pope Francis entrusted the world to Our Lady of Fatima with a special prayer in front of thousands of pilgrims at St. Peter's Square. The statue was brought from its Shrine in Portugal. At her feet, Pope Francis prayed for Our Lady's protection to the world and for the reinforcement of people's goodwill. Also, he asked her to revive the faith and charity in people so that they look after those who suffer and those excluded from society. Source: [link to www.romereports.com] |