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Yes, and it's the real game changer.
 Quoting: *Evan


evan you do know that the chinks are the UNs pet country right? theyve made clear that they want the world modeled after china. china gets the UN award of approval for economics, population control, farming, green, energy you name it.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


:yupp96:

Yes, I agree China is the model for the NWO.

You know your stuff Phenn
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ive been studying the UN a few years now.

when we had the faux pandemic, i found on the UN site that their treaties TRUMP any country's law/constitutions. ppl dont believe me but iy=ts there on the site. if youre a member - you must abide by all 'recommendations' & treaties.

the WHO is a sister to the UN, world health org makes a "recommendation" to mandatory vaccinations re a pandemic - then thats it. done.

its incredible how all this fucking shit is out there but out of 7 billion ppl on this planet a small fraction only know of it.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


No treaty at anytime shall be made that in anyway voids the rights of the people and the constitution of the U.S.o.A.

Not the president and not the congress only the people could do it an at no time did they agree with it, in fact the World conference was set up as a start of it the people had a fit, it closed and the put in the U.N. Set up was done by communist in the government after WW2, and not by ratification by the states, because it would change our laws and amendments to the constitutions. Congress never had that power nor did they ratify the changes to Congress in 1913!
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Yes
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47203201


ok then.

what Obama is doing is assuming complete power over the us government because they realise that congress has been completely corrupted by corporations.

he is crashing a system whereas usury and inflation have placed the general public in poverty.

this is the change he promised and he is delivering.

it seems to be the ones that are complaining are those that have flourished in this corrupt system.

do I need to go on?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48320831


Not only assuming power over the government, but using the government to assume more power over us, and our economy.

You really drank that kool aid man.
 Quoting: *Evan


no I don't drink kool aid. its not even served here in the uk.

but I do see one thing, and the reason I see it is because im not inside your box.

Obama used the care act as a slight of hand to effectively "con" the senate and congress out of any power.

he is doing this for the good of the country.

how can you be complaining all these years that congress is corrupt and now they have lost power you are complaining again!

really its time to get a grip.

any fear tactics should be avoided and not listened to.. its the very corporations that have assumes power and kept you in this quandary that are putting out all this fear disinfo to make you scared of the changes that are occurring.. either that or you are one of the wealthy bastards that are set to lose all your ill gotten gains.

Obama will be victorious it has been planned for a long time now.
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Ohbunghole, the good guy, working FOR We The People? What the fuck are they putting in your tap water over there?
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evan you do know that the chinks are the UNs pet country right? theyve made clear that they want the world modeled after china. china gets the UN award of approval for economics, population control, farming, green, energy you name it.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


yupp96

Yes, I agree China is the model for the NWO.

You know your stuff Phenn
 Quoting: *Evan


ive been studying the UN a few years now.

when we had the faux pandemic, i found on the UN site that their treaties TRUMP any country's law/constitutions. ppl dont believe me but iy=ts there on the site. if youre a member - you must abide by all 'recommendations' & treaties.

the WHO is a sister to the UN, world health org makes a "recommendation" to mandatory vaccinations re a pandemic - then thats it. done.

its incredible how all this fucking shit is out there but out of 7 billion ppl on this planet a small fraction only know of it.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


No treaty at anytime shall be made that in anyway voids the rights of the people and the constitution of the U.S.o.A.

Not the president and not the congress only the people could do it an at no time did they agree with it, in fact the World conference was set up as a start of it the people had a fit, it closed and the put in the U.N. Set up was done by communist in the government after WW2, and not by ratification by the states, because it would change our laws and amendments to the constitutions. Congress never had that power nor did they ratify the changes to Congress in 1913!
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yeah you keep thinkn that rofl the UN trumps. go read the treaty & charter.
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Yes
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47203201


ok then.

what Obama is doing is assuming complete power over the us government because they realise that congress has been completely corrupted by corporations.

he is crashing a system whereas usury and inflation have placed the general public in poverty.

this is the change he promised and he is delivering.

it seems to be the ones that are complaining are those that have flourished in this corrupt system.

do I need to go on?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48320831


Not only assuming power over the government, but using the government to assume more power over us, and our economy.

You really drank that kool aid man.
 Quoting: *Evan


no I don't drink kool aid. its not even served here in the uk.

but I do see one thing, and the reason I see it is because im not inside your box.

Obama used the care act as a slight of hand to effectively "con" the senate and congress out of any power.

he is doing this for the good of the country.

how can you be complaining all these years that congress is corrupt and now they have lost power you are complaining again!

really its time to get a grip.

any fear tactics should be avoided and not listened to.. its the very corporations that have assumes power and kept you in this quandary that are putting out all this fear disinfo to make you scared of the changes that are occurring.. either that or you are one of the wealthy bastards that are set to lose all your ill gotten gains.

Obama will be victorious it has been planned for a long time now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48320831


Dude you are so dumb, short term thinking sub 100s. yes you are right he has taken power from the senate and the house, BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE FUCK WE DONT WANT, we ALSO dont want the congress to have the power they do, but that is a totally different thing that happen in 1913 thru the election of senators thru general state elections. any thru be told that the both executive branch and the congress have taken far too much power and have only done bidding to their master or lobyist with the pay check bridery... you do realize that the US has legal bribery right... lobbyist are the most paid people and they live in the highest income area of the US, DC. start putting the pieces, the congress is trying to take back the US before the executive branch over steps its bounds and places a TAX law on all people thru lies and dceite.

Here is the logic: creat a law that helps bout 5-10% of Americans get health insurnace. while 85% already have it and the rest dont want it period. i have plenty of people that are completely healthy and dont want or need health insurance.
so of the 10% that want insurance and can not afford or are denied, about 3-5% will qualify for free,
SO now that we have figured it out, 5% of the peopel will now get health coverage, SHITY COVERAGE WITH DEDUCTIBLES THAT CAN NOT BE PAID BY POOR PEOPLE.
At what cost?
To the effect that the most of the 85% of the population that already had coverage had their cost double to triple with less coverage and higher deducible.
so you double the cost of everyone, prices go up in hospitals, and its only pays for 5% to have free health care and an impossible deductible.
Now force people to pay for this expensive insurance that has low value if injury occurs

waste of dollars and effort. worst part is once we repeal it this still will not bring prices back down. we have mandated insurances companies to make a shit load of money
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There is no impeachable offense.
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What is an impeachable offense?
- Anything whatsoever, as long as a simple majority of the House of Representatives decide that it is an impechable offense. If the President decided to dye his hair blue, and a simple majority of the HOUSE decided it was an impeachable offense, they could impeach him for it.

What requires conviction of that impeachment?
- A 2/3 majority of the Senate.
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Impeachable Offenses
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Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution says, "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." Well, that's up to the members of the House of Representatives. According to constitutional lawyers, "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" are (1) real criminality -- breaking a law; (2) abuses of power; (3) "violation of public trust" In the past, Congress has issued Articles of Impeachment for acts in three general categories:

Exceeding the constitutional bounds of the powers of the office.

Behavior grossly incompatible with the proper function and purpose of the office.

Employing the power of the office for an improper purpose or for personal gain.
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Keep in mind those are only general guidelines, not rules or laws.

The only thing that defines what is impeachable or not is the vote of the current sitting House. "high crimes and misdemeanors" is not a reference to legal wrongdoing, but to political wrongdoing. What defines that political wrongdoing in the terms of Presidential impeachment is the current sitting House by vote. The impeachment process is a political process, not a legal one.
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dude clinton was impeached over a goddamned blow job for fucks sake.
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Yes
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47203201


ok then.

what Obama is doing is assuming complete power over the us government because they realise that congress has been completely corrupted by corporations.

he is crashing a system whereas usury and inflation have placed the general public in poverty.

this is the change he promised and he is delivering.

it seems to be the ones that are complaining are those that have flourished in this corrupt system.

do I need to go on?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48320831


Not only assuming power over the government, but using the government to assume more power over us, and our economy.

You really drank that kool aid man.
 Quoting: *Evan


no I don't drink kool aid. its not even served here in the uk.

but I do see one thing, and the reason I see it is because im not inside your box.

Obama used the care act as a slight of hand to effectively "con" the senate and congress out of any power.

he is doing this for the good of the country.

how can you be complaining all these years that congress is corrupt and now they have lost power you are complaining again!

really its time to get a grip.

any fear tactics should be avoided and not listened to.. its the very corporations that have assumes power and kept you in this quandary that are putting out all this fear disinfo to make you scared of the changes that are occurring.. either that or you are one of the wealthy bastards that are set to lose all your ill gotten gains.

Obama will be victorious it has been planned for a long time now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48320831


dude, your cuntry is all muzzy. you shouldnt be talking at all.
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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impeach Obama and allow the corporations to resume power?

are you guys really blind to what Obama is really doing here?

do I need to explain?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48320831


Yes
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47203201


ok then.

what Obama is doing is assuming complete power over the us government because they realise that congress has been completely corrupted by corporations.

he is crashing a system whereas usury and inflation have placed the general public in poverty.

this is the change he promised and he is delivering.

it seems to be the ones that are complaining are those that have flourished in this corrupt system.

do I need to go on?
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No, you have already shown us just how stupid you really are!
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impeach Obama and allow the corporations to resume power?

are you guys really blind to what Obama is really doing here?

do I need to explain?
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Yes
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47203201


ok then.

what Obama is doing is assuming complete power over the us government because they realise that congress has been completely corrupted by corporations.

he is crashing a system whereas usury and inflation have placed the general public in poverty.

this is the change he promised and he is delivering.

it seems to be the ones that are complaining are those that have flourished in this corrupt system.

do I need to go on?
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No

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Impeach Obama is a good plan, but why the hell should we stop there?

Let the government default. The moment the criminals allow their treasonous act to go through we get our governors to take it a step further.

We have our states leave the Union and leave those still wanting to serve the traitors holding the bag.

Drastic? Yes. But that was our fault the moment we let this situation get out of hand. Now we are faced with making decisions that can most likely lead to bloodshed.

The way I see secession is this. Once a state leaves the Union it no longer becomes burdened by the banker influence. Many states are as large as some European nations and have the resources needed to sustain themselves by self reliance or by trade.

This process takes the political polarization by the criminals and patriots and defines it by geographical borders, creating definitive havens for patriots to relocate to avoid the tyrannical government. The shift of the workers throws the balance of the government off, leaving them with the feeders still clinging to the welfare state. This imbalance shifts the weight off the patriots and onto the criminals and their voter parasites who are the antithesis of a stable society.

Military conflict becomes difficult to conduct even under martial law definitions. States claiming autonomy from the federal government become politically independent, making martial law an act of war. The sudden shift in U.S. borders leaves the military fractured on support, many enlisted are already opposed to administrative decisions. The call to martial law becomes a damaging move that either leaves the federal government a fraction of their physical power or the best case scenario a military completely uncooperative to turning on friends and family.

It would be violent regardless of how it is approached. Non violent succession is best as it not only leaves the federal government holding the bag, but unable to demonize the states as to muster military action against them. Riots would happen, crime would go up, the economy will hurt but we are at the point of no return.

A non violent fracturing of federal power by succession is the safest way to disarm the criminal government. If we follow up with an Icelandic financial revolution we can then remove the threat and move the states back into a restructured constitutional republic with the U.S. Constitution.

To be honest, I only see succession taking away federal power and it will most likely happen if the U.S. defaults.
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The only things that worry me about this theory are that it leaves all ripe for foreign invasion and it leaves poor, disabled and immobile believers in freedom that live in other states to fend for themselves. They are that way because they would not sell out, pissed the wrong people off or worked their body to the bone for a good ol boy system that used them up then spit them out. Sorry but you don't leave your injured behind.
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I don't think the risk factor is favorable for invasion unless it is by more than one nation. Lots of unknown territory to hold crawling with armed citizens resorting to guerrilla warfare. Factor in standing states with active Guard/militia units and you're expecting heavy resistance from hostiles who will spot you crossing an ocean to get there. Although, Obama was willing to punch Russia in the nuts to get to Syria so I guess it is possible.

As for the injured, I don't doubt people will try to help them make such an exodus. But the reality is people will suffer in that situation like we are suffering now. Change isn't always painless or without loss. Leaders will make decisions that are detached from emotion and looking to help the most amount of people it can.

It would be up to individuals like ourselves to help those in need as it always has been. Leaders would be too preoccupied with the continuation of state government to worry about each individual case. Cold, but that is the weight the leaders of states have to make.
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A bitterly divided Congress edged closer to a budget and debt deal on Monday, while the rest of the world braced for the possibility of a legislative failure and an economic catastrophe that could ripple through financial markets, foreign capitals, corporate boardrooms, state budget offices and the bank accounts of everyday investors.

Senate negotiators were still talking late into the afternoon, but both parties were coalescing around a plan that would lift the debt limit through Feb. 7, pass a resolution to finance the government through Jan. 15 and call for the two parties to conclude formal discussions on a long-term tax and spending plan no later than Dec. 13, according to one Senate aide briefed on the outlines of the plan.

Any provision to delay or repeal a tax on medical devices – a sticking point in the negotiations – will almost certainly be excluded from the final deal, Senate aides said. Republicans sought to have the tax eliminated or pushed back, but Democrats strongly resisted.

The deal would include a one-year delay of another tax associated with the Affordable Care Act known as the reinsurance tax, which employers pay.

Another Republican-backed measure would require tighter income verification standards for people who receive subsidies under the new health care law. Under the new guidelines, the Health and Human Services secretary would have to certify that the department can verify income eligibility.

The timing of a vote – which seems likely to come right up against Thursday, the date the Treasury has said the country will exhaust its borrowing authority – is unclear. If, for instance, Democrats and Republicans shake hands on a deal on Monday and Mr. Reid is able to get consent from all of the Republicans, a vote could occur within hours; if any senator objects, however, the earliest a vote could occur is Friday.

Democrats would like to bring any deal to the floor for a vote on Wednesday. Passing the plan on Wednesday, aides say, would not only avert the possibility of a devastating fiscal default, but would also put pressure on the Republican-controlled House to pass whatever bill the Senate sends over, or risk being blamed for a debt default.

Shortly after 2 p.m. on Monday, Mr. Reid and Mr. McConnell spoke on the Senate floor and made their most upbeat remarks yet about the progress of their talks.

“I’m very optimistic that we will reach an agreement that’s reasonable in nature this week,” Mr. Reid said, using unusually warm terms to describe Mr. McConnell. “I deeply appreciate my friend the minority leader for his diligent efforts to come to an agreement.”

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 Quoting: Phennommennonn


What I find of greater concern, is the thread about China calling for a new world reserve currency.

If congress can't get their sh*t together, the feds can still make their payment without defaulting. They will only default if they choose to.

But

If the dollar is no longer the worlds reserve, we lose the ability to buy our own debt.....then, it all collapses, or we panic and inject a trillion dollars into the market and hyperinflate our currency.
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well we've been anticipating that outta the chinks since the 08 new financial order meeting with the g8.
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That is the other shoe to drop. A potential default might not kill us. Having the dollar replaced as the reserve currency will fuck us 8 ways from Sunday.
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Call me stupid if you must, but can you 'splain how this works, please?
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Republican Congressman Louie Gohmert of Texas, the highest ranking member of the House Committee of Bat&h!t Wingnuttery, proposes a solution for dealing with the threat of government default: When asked whether he would allow the government to default on its debt, Gohmert projected the responsibility for such circumstances onto Obama. "No," he said, "that would be an impeachable offense by the president."
[link to politomix.com]

more on subject here
[link to news.yahoo.com]

House Republicans Schedule Obama Impeachment Hearings
[link to www.codewit.com]
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


It goes well beyond impeachment. He could be arrested and jailed the day he decides to not pay interest on the debt.
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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Again, you morons keep saying this...but I keep asking what is it that they stand for that is unamerican?
 Quoting: *Evan


1. Most believe in running the country as a religious theocracy.
2. Most believe in subverting the US Constitution and arbitrarily overturning Roe v. Wade.
3. Most are backing the threat of default as a "negotiation" tactic, a direct violation of the 14th Amendment and the very definition of treason.
4. Most are in favor of subverting the 9th Amendment rights of homosexuals to get legally married in the United States.
5. Most stood by and derided their fellow Americans who had their Constitutional rights trampled during the occupy protests, simply because they were mostly from the Blue Team.

...the word for this type of behavior is simply "Treason".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23845087


1. Simply not true. No facts behind that at all.

2. Again, not true. Ron Paul, the father of the original Tea Party movement also disagrees with over turning R v W

3.The government will not default if we don't raise the debt ceiling. If they do, than it's by choice, because the feds will still receive enough money to make the payment. Plus, Obama argued against raising the debt limit while in the senate. Is he tea party too?

4. Why is the government involved in marriage anyway? You say you don't want religion and government mixed....well marriage was/is/and always has been a religious institution.

5.Occupy was calling for socialism/communism. Student loan debt forgiveness and the end of capitalism.. That is unamerican.
 Quoting: *Evan


You are laughably incorrect on all counts.

1. The tea party is populated predominately by religious nutters who actually BRAG that they hear voices and those voices tell them how to legislate.

2. Ron Paul is in favor of abortion being an issue of "states rights" despite the salient and material fact that the Supreme Court has already decided that it is NOT.

3. Bullshit. Pure and simple.

4. Again...bullshit. Marriage can be religious or secular as a JUDGE can LEGALLY marry people just as well as a religious leader.

5. There is nothing in the United States Constitution that states that communism, socialism, Marxism, capitalism, mercantilism, or utilitarianism is "more American" or "less American".

...thanks for kind of proving my point that the 'baggers are all "patriotic"...just so long as you think EXACTLY like they do.

They are more dangerous to the average American and our way of life than than Al-queda is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23845087

Dude you have serious sub 100 issues, take some shrooms and realize you are arguing from the wrong set of tracks, that is the point of the Tea Party, which was hijacked by repubs, im not a tea partier but i believed in what they orginally wanted. LESS GOVERNMENT. DOES THIS Compute moron.
the POINT of the constitution is toe create power amongst a group of states. DO you know why?
probably not so I will break it down.
You can NEVER have a right answer all the time with only one perspective , much like how nature chose the right genetic code because there are many option avail this is a known universal law. If you have a single gov enity giving all the direction that directino will eventually lead you off a cliff.
welcome to states rights. you see the founders figure that the crown of england and corparation, east india trading comp, had coluded, much like today, to fleece the colonies of there wealth thru taxation to pay for unjust wars of the empire.
is this sound familiar, well it should.
so they said fuk it dumped the tea in the harbor to protest the usury taxes and the corporation that was basically allowing the laundering of money to the crown.
THIS IS HAPPENING NOW!!!!!
hence the fucking tea party dude. and now they are on a mission to retake the gov back before its too late to do it non violently. nobody wants a civil war.
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1. Most believe in running the country as a religious theocracy.
2. Most believe in subverting the US Constitution and arbitrarily overturning Roe v. Wade.
3. Most are backing the threat of default as a "negotiation" tactic, a direct violation of the 14th Amendment and the very definition of treason.
4. Most are in favor of subverting the 9th Amendment rights of homosexuals to get legally married in the United States.
5. Most stood by and derided their fellow Americans who had their Constitutional rights trampled during the occupy protests, simply because they were mostly from the Blue Team.

...the word for this type of behavior is simply "Treason".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23845087


1. Simply not true. No facts behind that at all.

2. Again, not true. Ron Paul, the father of the original Tea Party movement also disagrees with over turning R v W

3.The government will not default if we don't raise the debt ceiling. If they do, than it's by choice, because the feds will still receive enough money to make the payment. Plus, Obama argued against raising the debt limit while in the senate. Is he tea party too?

4. Why is the government involved in marriage anyway? You say you don't want religion and government mixed....well marriage was/is/and always has been a religious institution.

5.Occupy was calling for socialism/communism. Student loan debt forgiveness and the end of capitalism.. That is unamerican.
 Quoting: *Evan


You are laughably incorrect on all counts.

1. The tea party is populated predominately by religious nutters who actually BRAG that they hear voices and those voices tell them how to legislate.

2. Ron Paul is in favor of abortion being an issue of "states rights" despite the salient and material fact that the Supreme Court has already decided that it is NOT.

3. Bullshit. Pure and simple.

4. Again...bullshit. Marriage can be religious or secular as a JUDGE can LEGALLY marry people just as well as a religious leader.

5. There is nothing in the United States Constitution that states that communism, socialism, Marxism, capitalism, mercantilism, or utilitarianism is "more American" or "less American".

...thanks for kind of proving my point that the 'baggers are all "patriotic"...just so long as you think EXACTLY like they do.

They are more dangerous to the average American and our way of life than than Al-queda is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23845087

Dude you have serious sub 100 issues, take some shrooms and realize you are arguing from the wrong set of tracks, that is the point of the Tea Party, which was hijacked by repubs, im not a tea partier but i believed in what they orginally wanted. LESS GOVERNMENT. DOES THIS Compute moron.
the POINT of the constitution is toe create power amongst a group of states. DO you know why?
probably not so I will break it down.
You can NEVER have a right answer all the time with only one perspective , much like how nature chose the right genetic code because there are many option avail this is a known universal law. If you have a single gov enity giving all the direction that directino will eventually lead you off a cliff.
welcome to states rights. you see the founders figure that the crown of england and corparation, east india trading comp, had coluded, much like today, to fleece the colonies of there wealth thru taxation to pay for unjust wars of the empire.
is this sound familiar, well it should.
so they said fuk it dumped the tea in the harbor to protest the usury taxes and the corporation that was basically allowing the laundering of money to the crown.
THIS IS HAPPENING NOW!!!!!
hence the fucking tea party dude. and now they are on a mission to retake the gov back before its too late to do it non violently. nobody wants a civil war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18998741


that beings said a default would be the fucking worst most likely causing a chain reaction that would cripple the US and other economies around the world. best course of action would be to end the fed and then claim we are not responsible for the debt and discharge it back on to the FEd, who creating the money out of thin air anyway..
the only person that loses is the fucking jewish zionist banksters still trying to launder money from us.

DEfault is bad. end the fed and discharge thedebt on the principal that the fed is preditory lending practices.
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What I find of greater concern, is the thread about China calling for a new world reserve currency.

If congress can't get their sh*t together, the feds can still make their payment without defaulting. They will only default if they choose to.

But

If the dollar is no longer the worlds reserve, we lose the ability to buy our own debt.....then, it all collapses, or we panic and inject a trillion dollars into the market and hyperinflate our currency.
 Quoting: *Evan


well we've been anticipating that outta the chinks since the 08 new financial order meeting with the g8.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


That is the other shoe to drop. A potential default might not kill us. Having the dollar replaced as the reserve currency will fuck us 8 ways from Sunday.
 Quoting: PumpkinReaper


Call me stupid if you must, but can you 'splain how this works, please?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47104454


I will keep it short and simple.

Right now the fed is "printing" money to inject into the markets to keep them afloat. The only reason they can do this without massive inflation is because it's the worlds reserve. So others must adjust to the dollar, not the other way around.

If it is no longer the reserve, we either 1. Have to stop printing, which would cause the dow to drop like a rock. Or 2. keep printing and deal with hyperinflation.
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Republican Congressman Louie Gohmert of Texas, the highest ranking member of the House Committee of Bat&h!t Wingnuttery, proposes a solution for dealing with the threat of government default: When asked whether he would allow the government to default on its debt, Gohmert projected the responsibility for such circumstances onto Obama. "No," he said, "that would be an impeachable offense by the president."
[link to politomix.com]

more on subject here
[link to news.yahoo.com]

House Republicans Schedule Obama Impeachment Hearings
[link to www.codewit.com]
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Not just impeach...IMPRISON HIM!!! that's what I say do to him!
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Republican Congressman Louie Gohmert of Texas, the highest ranking member of the House Committee of Bat&h!t Wingnuttery, proposes a solution for dealing with the threat of government default: When asked whether he would allow the government to default on its debt, Gohmert projected the responsibility for such circumstances onto Obama. "No," he said, "that would be an impeachable offense by the president."
[link to politomix.com]

more on subject here
[link to news.yahoo.com]

House Republicans Schedule Obama Impeachment Hearings
[link to www.codewit.com]
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


And insanity like this is why the Republican party will be a fragmented, minority, in the Senate, House, and at the direction of the President.
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Republican Congressman Louie Gohmert of Texas, the highest ranking member of the House Committee of Bat&h!t Wingnuttery, proposes a solution for dealing with the threat of government default: When asked whether he would allow the government to default on its debt, Gohmert projected the responsibility for such circumstances onto Obama. "No," he said, "that would be an impeachable offense by the president."
[link to politomix.com]

more on subject here
[link to news.yahoo.com]

House Republicans Schedule Obama Impeachment Hearings
[link to www.codewit.com]
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


And insanity like this is why the Republican party will be a fragmented, minority, in the Senate, House, and at the direction of the President.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48372155


why because we cant keep raising the debt ceiling?

ok. you pay for it assfuck.

thats what i thought, so shut the fuck up cock-snot shill.
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Republican Congressman Louie Gohmert of Texas, the highest ranking member of the House Committee of Bat&h!t Wingnuttery, proposes a solution for dealing with the threat of government default: When asked whether he would allow the government to default on its debt, Gohmert projected the responsibility for such circumstances onto Obama. "No," he said, "that would be an impeachable offense by the president."
[link to politomix.com]

more on subject here
[link to news.yahoo.com]

House Republicans Schedule Obama Impeachment Hearings
[link to www.codewit.com]
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Not just impeach...IMPRISON HIM!!! that's what I say do to him!
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I like your thinking!
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Republican Congressman Louie Gohmert of Texas, the highest ranking member of the House Committee of Bat&h!t Wingnuttery, proposes a solution for dealing with the threat of government default: When asked whether he would allow the government to default on its debt, Gohmert projected the responsibility for such circumstances onto Obama. "No," he said, "that would be an impeachable offense by the president."
[link to politomix.com]

more on subject here
[link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


We love Louie Gohmert in Texas, he gave up his salary during this crisis.
He could run for President.
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What's not to like 'bout a hanging judge?
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impeach Obama and allow the corporations to resume power?

are you guys really blind to what Obama is really doing here?

do I need to explain?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48320831


Yes
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47203201


ok then.

what Obama is doing is assuming complete power over the us government because they realise that congress has been completely corrupted by corporations.

he is crashing a system whereas usury and inflation have placed the general public in poverty.

this is the change he promised and he is delivering.

it seems to be the ones that are complaining are those that have flourished in this corrupt system.

do I need to go on?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48320831


What you are missing here is that the Federal Government is the most corrupt, inefficient and inhuman ' corporation' of them all.
 Quoting: Mr. Predictor


I was not missing anything at all.. that's why Obama has declared by law that he is now the dictator. I even got banned for what I posted.. why do you figure that was?

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