New trajectory for ISON. NASA updated yesterday...! (Update for Oct. 15th) | |
Emlapal User ID: 30657134 United States 10/15/2013 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | # obs. used (total) 5131 Quoting: Rogue Lemming data-arc span 745 days (2.04 yr) first obs. used 2011-09-30 last obs. used 2013-10-14 planetary ephem. DE431 SB-pert. ephem. SB431-BIG16 fit RMS .65678 data source ORB producer Otto Matic solution date 2013-Oct-14 17:14:05 It will actually be further from earth when it flys by now Shhh...you will ruin the ISON doom tards day. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43901661 Netherlands 10/15/2013 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | # obs. used (total) 5131 Quoting: Rogue Lemming data-arc span 745 days (2.04 yr) first obs. used 2011-09-30 last obs. used 2013-10-14 planetary ephem. DE431 SB-pert. ephem. SB431-BIG16 fit RMS .65678 data source ORB producer Otto Matic solution date 2013-Oct-14 17:14:05 It will actually be further from earth when it flys by now Shhh...you will ruin the ISON doom tards day. so, we're still in it's dust tail... who gives a damn. one day judgement will come, and fleeing won't help, neither will hiding. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1347486 United States 10/15/2013 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think so. Both Ison and Lovejoy are electron-charged capacitors, and as such, will each have an effect on solar activity, and by extension, earthquake activity. There will be a steady uptick of big quakes beginning now (Asteroid 2010 HR80 - Phillipines 7.1) through November. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 39337837 United States 10/15/2013 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right!! Because NASA is known for its truth telling. Give me a break! Any idiot listening to the government about anything is the real tard. Sheep LOL bahhh bahhhh bahhh all the way to your death. Quoting: pft 1334077 I am a skeptic all of things, but you need to take into account all the new info you get these days irregardless the source IMO |
BadMoonRisen User ID: 42411020 United Kingdom 10/15/2013 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well if changes once, it can change again. If you are depressed, you are living in the past. If you are anxious, you are living in the future. If you are at peace, you are living in the present. [link to www.inmomsbasement.com] The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48397437 Puerto Rico 10/15/2013 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right!! Because NASA is known for its truth telling. Give me a break! Any idiot listening to the government about anything is the real tard. Sheep LOL bahhh bahhhh bahhh all the way to your death. Quoting: pft 1334077 i should agree with this!! NASA is basically a government extension (they keep the cosmic gems hidden from the public) and release the garbage (with retouched images) we already knew about the universe |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47742596 Sweden 10/15/2013 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We will find out if there is anything to the dust cloud when we pass through it. I mean we can't really do anything about it anyway. Only the rich and elite have the power and influence to prepare for major disasters, the rest of us plebs will just have to bite the bullet when it comes. |
shadasonic User ID: 48323270 United States 10/15/2013 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right!! Because NASA is known for its truth telling. Give me a break! Any idiot listening to the government about anything is the real tard. Sheep LOL bahhh bahhhh bahhh all the way to your death. Quoting: pft 1334077 Your stupidity is amazing. baaaaaa You've got three eyes and still see nothing! “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 48391843 United Kingdom 10/15/2013 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | # obs. used (total) 5131 Quoting: Rogue Lemming data-arc span 745 days (2.04 yr) first obs. used 2011-09-30 last obs. used 2013-10-14 planetary ephem. DE431 SB-pert. ephem. SB431-BIG16 fit RMS .65678 data source ORB producer Otto Matic solution date 2013-Oct-14 17:14:05 It will actually be further from earth when it flys by now [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48396858 United States 10/15/2013 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right!! Because NASA is known for its truth telling. Give me a break! Any idiot listening to the government about anything is the real tard. Sheep LOL bahhh bahhhh bahhh all the way to your death. Quoting: pft 1334077 You don't trust NASA? Well, what self-respecting person would? NASA wants us to believe that there MAY be other life in the Universe besides that on Earth, but that it would be microbial in form. We don't need this "flat-Earth" organization telling us anything! Its withholding of the truth has made it irrelevant. |
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Sharpy User ID: 47047619 Canada 10/15/2013 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am with the anti's on this one.. I have a hard time believing anything nasa has to say without backup from our debunkers, doomtards and respectable brains of this forum and interweb. Believing is what got us it trouble in the first place. on NASA. Guilty until proven innocent... partial doom!!! |
The Zissou User ID: 38724976 United States 10/15/2013 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | # obs. used (total) 5131 Quoting: Rogue Lemming data-arc span 745 days (2.04 yr) first obs. used 2011-09-30 last obs. used 2013-10-14 planetary ephem. DE431 SB-pert. ephem. SB431-BIG16 fit RMS .65678 data source ORB producer Otto Matic solution date 2013-Oct-14 17:14:05 It will actually be further from earth when it flys by now Shhh...you will ruin the ISON doom tards day. so, we're still in it's dust tail... who gives a damn. one day judgement will come, and fleeing won't help, neither will hiding. "One day... someday......" |
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Sharpy User ID: 47047619 Canada 10/15/2013 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or maybe it did change course!!! NASA says it will come out ahead of earths orbital path and miss the Northern close approach. Keep paying your taxes.. Doom Averted Or Logic so far says: this thing is going to discharge all over earth and electricfry are asses just like it did to mars and the goverment shut down and EBT cards are just a test run. The DUMBS are locked and loaded the training has been completed and COMMON FUCKEN SENSE HAS TO KICK IN sometime..!!! FULL OUT DOOM |
Reality420 User ID: 47610773 United States 10/15/2013 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | # obs. used (total) 5131 Quoting: Rogue Lemming data-arc span 745 days (2.04 yr) first obs. used 2011-09-30 last obs. used 2013-10-14 planetary ephem. DE431 SB-pert. ephem. SB431-BIG16 fit RMS .65678 data source ORB producer Otto Matic solution date 2013-Oct-14 17:14:05 It will actually be further from earth when it flys by now - "significant albeit slight changes" - "no longer have a nearly perfect pass over the north pole of earth just before new years" - "The comet is still going to cross over our trajectory at that time." - "The comet is expected to leave closer to its general incoming direction, however" This guy is very confused. - The changes are insignificant. - The comet never had "a nearly perfect pass over the north pole of earth". Where, and how, did this moran come up with that? (mis)Using the JPL orbit java toy I'll bet. When it crosses earth's orbit in late December it will be ahead of earth, for both the old and new orbits which differ by less than 12000 miles at that time. - Using my Samuel L. Jackson impression and being pedantic: "English mofo! Do you speak it? It's called an "orbit", not a "trajectory". Trajectory is conventionally used for parabolic and hyperbolic motions... on earth." - It is not. Where, and how, did this moran come up with that? (mis)Using the JPL orbit java toy I'll bet. The changes to the obit are so slight you can't see them even in January without a good telescope and astrometry: old: 2013-Dec-31 00:00 -- 16 35 15.28, +67 18 00.0 1.101761368954, 0.44239565649452 Date________________R.A.________Dec_______sun distance____earth distance new: 2013-Dec-31 00:00 16 35 14.63, +67 18 04.0 1.101779980082, 0.44241432216320 For the maths challenged that is a separation of 0.0015 degrees. 1.5 thousandths of a degree. The old position is ~12000 miles from the new position in January. Virtually nothing except to astronomers. Well, at least he isn't cying "DOOM!!!!!!", but I don't listen to him so ... If this guy is who you all think is 'great', you may want to reconsider. In this vid he is certainly better than MrCartoonwatcher (aka BPEarthwatch), but he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about science, and he'd be lost without the JPL orbit toy. Be careful with what he says since he seems to get most of it wrong. Should he start crying "DOOM!!!!", remember that he doesn't know what he's talking about and 12 year olds can make RubeTube vids pretending to have knowledge of that which they are ignorant. R. kOOks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description. |
Reality420 User ID: 47610773 United States 10/15/2013 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right!! Because NASA is known for its truth telling. Give me a break! Any idiot listening to the government about anything is the real tard. Sheep LOL bahhh bahhhh bahhh all the way to your death. Quoting: pft 1334077 i should agree with this!! NASA is basically a government extension (they keep the cosmic gems hidden from the public) and release the garbage (with retouched images) we already knew about the universe Either of you geniuses care to cite where NASA has lied about scientific data? Just because you've misinterpreted the data in your ignorance doesn't meant they are lying... it means you are ignorant. Just because it doesn't agree with your delusion doesn't mean they are lying... it means you are delusional. Looking at the record I'd say NASA/Rationalists/Debunkers have a 100% accuracy rate on DOOM!!!!!! and the kOOks/Hoaxers/Fringers have a 0% accuracy rate. You know the saying - Put up or shut up... R. kOOks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46805758 United States 10/15/2013 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right!! Because NASA is known for its truth telling. Give me a break! Any idiot listening to the government about anything is the real tard. Sheep LOL bahhh bahhhh bahhh all the way to your death. Quoting: pft 1334077 i should agree with this!! NASA is basically a government extension (they keep the cosmic gems hidden from the public) and release the garbage (with retouched images) we already knew about the universe Either of you geniuses care to cite where NASA has lied about scientific data? NASA can't even grind a telescope mirror correctly. (Ref: Hubble HST #1) . |
#Geomagnetic_Storm# User ID: 44557506 United States 10/15/2013 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think so. Both Ison and Lovejoy are electron-charged capacitors, and as such, will each have an effect on solar activity, and by extension, earthquake activity. There will be a steady uptick of big quakes beginning now (Asteroid 2010 HR80 - Phillipines 7.1) through November. Prove it... |
#Geomagnetic_Storm# User ID: 44557506 United States 10/15/2013 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right!! Because NASA is known for its truth telling. Give me a break! Any idiot listening to the government about anything is the real tard. Sheep LOL bahhh bahhhh bahhh all the way to your death. Quoting: pft 1334077 i should agree with this!! NASA is basically a government extension (they keep the cosmic gems hidden from the public) and release the garbage (with retouched images) we already knew about the universe Either of you geniuses care to cite where NASA has lied about scientific data? Just because you've misinterpreted the data in your ignorance doesn't meant they are lying... it means you are ignorant. Just because it doesn't agree with your delusion doesn't mean they are lying... it means you are delusional. Looking at the record I'd say NASA/Rationalists/Debunkers have a 100% accuracy rate on DOOM!!!!!! and the kOOks/Hoaxers/Fringers have a 0% accuracy rate. You know the saying - Put up or shut up... R. kOOks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 10/15/2013 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ugh! Don't use the stupid java applet to guess the close approach distance. It just uses 2-body methods to approximate the orbit. The exact figures are given in the close approach data table on the same page! 2013-Dec-26 22:42 Earth 0.429235146543569 AU (nominal distance) Vs my own previously calculated orbit for ISON: 26.935933 0.42918 AU [link to dropcanvas.com] So in other words, even my old solution is within about 0.000055 AU or 8000 km of NASA's latest calculation, even though I specifically excluded all observations from September or later. |
Reality420 User ID: 47610773 United States 10/15/2013 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right!! Because NASA is known for its truth telling. Give me a break! Any idiot listening to the government about anything is the real tard. Sheep LOL bahhh bahhhh bahhh all the way to your death. Quoting: pft 1334077 i should agree with this!! NASA is basically a government extension (they keep the cosmic gems hidden from the public) and release the garbage (with retouched images) we already knew about the universe Either of you geniuses care to cite where NASA has lied about scientific data? NASA can't even grind a telescope mirror correctly. (Ref: Hubble HST #1) That wasn't a lie, and it wasn't NASA. It was Perkin Elmer. Strike one for the lying kOOks. Think hard tards. Surely there must be something you can come up with that is true. Don't tell me you've been bad-mouthing NASA for more than a decade and you can't come up with any examples? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. (snicker) Lying, dishonest kOOks. R. |
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