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UPDATE: BOEHNER, CANTOR, MCCARTHY SAID TO VOTE YES FOR SENATE DEAL BILL!!!

 
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re the press conference,,,

I wonder if all the reporters asking the Dem press sec about Repug divisions, ask the same questions to the Repugs and TPers. Let the fireworks begin...
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This press conference is from yesterday.


Not live.


Unless today it's Tuesday.
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really? Damn! Any live links?
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IMO, it will pass by a slim margin. More can-kicking down the road....
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In all other circumstances, I'd be quite inclined to agree with you. When you observe everything else going on though, there are some differences in circumstance that are a little alarming.

This time...there has been a year of "drills" turned real, internal agencies purchasing stockpiles of ammunition, national parks and forests being shut down, and services to the people shut down. Not to mention the recent removal of several high-ranking military officers. Banks getting prepared. All sorts of things. Hell, if even 1% of what gets posted here is legitimate, it still adds up pretty quickly.

If this is all just grandstanding, I will genuinely be a little confused. I'll gladly come back and post I was wrong, but I just don't see this ending too quietly after all the setup to it.
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watching the coverage on the cspan website is making me sick to my stomach. both "sides" of the isle are bashing (without saying names) those who supported defunding the gov. this country is so clueless......
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Yes that is a horrible spectacle.
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Wolf Blitzer stating deal has been reached,ceiling has been raised,wtf is going on,confusion reigns,dow pumping,nobody's voted yet,what a clusterfuck over a temporary deal,to go thru all this shit again in the new year!

wtf 10
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IMO, it will pass by a slim margin. More can-kicking down the road....
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In all other circumstances, I'd be quite inclined to agree with you. When you observe everything else going on though, there are some differences in circumstance that are a little alarming.

This time...there has been a year of "drills" turned real, internal agencies purchasing stockpiles of ammunition, national parks and forests being shut down, and services to the people shut down. Not to mention the recent removal of several high-ranking military officers. Banks getting prepared. All sorts of things. Hell, if even 1% of what gets posted here is legitimate, it still adds up pretty quickly.

If this is all just grandstanding, I will genuinely be a little confused. I'll gladly come back and post I was wrong, but I just don't see this ending too quietly after all the setup to it.
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In my opinion the house will vote it down later tonight when everyone is already long forgotten about this whole debacle because they are being led to believe that it's a done deal, then come tomorrow will wake up to a very different scenario
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Very possible scenario
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ERIC CANTOR, FOR THE BLOCK!!!

ERIC CANTOR, FOR THE BLOCK!!!

ERIC CANTOR, FOR THE BLOCK!!!
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re the press conference,,,

I wonder if all the reporters asking the Dem press sec about Repug divisions, ask the same questions to the Repugs and TPers. Let the fireworks begin...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47871934


This press conference is from yesterday.


Not live.


Unless today it's Tuesday.
 Quoting: recollector


really? Damn! Any live links?
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Might be from today. But it looked EXACTLY and the WH guy said EXACTLY the same words.

I watched the damn press conference yesterday, all 1 and half an hour of it. I remember most questions. They are the same today...
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Re: UPDATE: BOEHNER, CANTOR, MCCARTHY SAID TO VOTE YES FOR SENATE DEAL BILL!!!
watching the coverage on the cspan website is making me sick to my stomach. both "sides" of the isle are bashing (without saying names) those who supported defunding the gov. this country is so clueless......
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Yes that is a horrible spectacle.
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I predicted that. Frontal assault against the TP. This will presage more concrete action against them...
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Re: UPDATE: BOEHNER, CANTOR, MCCARTHY SAID TO VOTE YES FOR SENATE DEAL BILL!!!
Wolf Blitzer stating deal has been reached,ceiling has been raised,wtf is going on,confusion reigns,dow pumping,nobody's voted yet,what a clusterfuck over a temporary deal,to go thru all this shit again in the new year!

wtf 10
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I was completely shocked to hear that too, I'm so confused I have no words to describe it...

Is CNN just flat out lying or what ?
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IMO, it will pass by a slim margin. More can-kicking down the road....
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In all other circumstances, I'd be quite inclined to agree with you. When you observe everything else going on though, there are some differences in circumstance that are a little alarming.

This time...there has been a year of "drills" turned real, internal agencies purchasing stockpiles of ammunition, national parks and forests being shut down, and services to the people shut down. Not to mention the recent removal of several high-ranking military officers. Banks getting prepared. All sorts of things. Hell, if even 1% of what gets posted here is legitimate, it still adds up pretty quickly.

If this is all just grandstanding, I will genuinely be a little confused. I'll gladly come back and post I was wrong, but I just don't see this ending too quietly after all the setup to it.
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Re: UPDATE: BOEHNER, CANTOR, MCCARTHY SAID TO VOTE YES FOR SENATE DEAL BILL!!!
Wolf Blitzer stating deal has been reached,ceiling has been raised,wtf is going on,confusion reigns,dow pumping,nobody's voted yet,what a clusterfuck over a temporary deal,to go thru all this shit again in the new year!

wtf 10
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They LIE !


This is repeated on the media ALL over the world. Everyone say or imply that debt deal reached and crisis averted.
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Re: UPDATE: BOEHNER, CANTOR, MCCARTHY SAID TO VOTE YES FOR SENATE DEAL BILL!!!
Wolf Blitzer stating deal has been reached,ceiling has been raised,wtf is going on,confusion reigns,dow pumping,nobody's voted yet,what a clusterfuck over a temporary deal,to go thru all this shit again in the new year!

wtf 10
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So I got up around noon hoping I'd be knee-deep in doom and then CNN is saying "a deal has been reached," without elaborating too much on the fact that it was a Senate deal (of course it was).

I don't know, I'm getting a weird feeling about this. The ship is in rocky seas and these fools don't know how to get her right...
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There not even voting until after dinner hour.
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You can now thank the Republican moderates and the tea party members for an overwhelming Democrat Congress win in 2014 and a landslide win by the Democrats in 2016 no matter how bad Obamacare turns out.

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Re: UPDATE: BOEHNER, CANTOR, MCCARTHY SAID TO VOTE YES FOR SENATE DEAL BILL!!!
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U.S. HOUSE SAID TO LET SENATE VOTE FIRST ON DEBT DEAL.hmmm

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Makes sense now they know it won't be filibustered. It also gives them tome to come up with amendments though...
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You can now thank the Republican moderates and the tea party members for an overwhelming Democrat Congress win in 2014 and a landslide win by the Democrats in 2016 no matter how bad Obamacare turns out.
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Except the House DID NOT VOTED YET !
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You can now thank the Republican moderates and the tea party members for an overwhelming Democrat Congress win in 2014 and a landslide win by the Democrats in 2016 no matter how bad Obamacare turns out.
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Except the House DID NOT VOTED YET !
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Cruz laid down like a dog as expected when push came to shove. Because of that, the house is going to pass it.
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What Ted Cruz just did is a national disgrace — but I admit that it was politically brilliant and that I like him [link to read.bi]
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You can now thank the Republican moderates and the tea party members for an overwhelming Democrat Congress win in 2014 and a landslide win by the Democrats in 2016 no matter how bad Obamacare turns out.
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Except the House DID NOT VOTED YET !
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Cruz laid down like a dog as expected when push came to shove. Because of that, the house is going to pass it.
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Are you betting your life it will pas in the House?
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The Republicans bluffed, democrats called it. The vote will pass the house and we can do this all again in a few months.
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You can now thank the Republican moderates and the tea party members for an overwhelming Democrat Congress win in 2014 and a landslide win by the Democrats in 2016 no matter how bad Obamacare turns out.
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Except the House DID NOT VOTED YET !
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Cruz laid down like a dog as expected when push came to shove. Because of that, the house is going to pass it.
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Are you betting your life it will pas in the House?
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Anything can happen. Idol1
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Re: UPDATE: BOEHNER, CANTOR, MCCARTHY SAID TO VOTE YES FOR SENATE DEAL BILL!!!
Let's not forget that Boehner WILL likely lose his speakership if he goes against his caucus and pushes this to the floor with democratic support.

Let's not forget that Boehner WILL likely lose his speakership if he sticks with the supposed terrorist labeled "extremists" and does anything to stop what the MSM has forced as a done deal.

The president has brokered a deal that he knows is a NO WIN SITUATION!

I think he does what he does best. He caves in an attempt of self preservation, and at the same time allows for amendments. This will be announced after 4pm (market close).

Everything still can and odds are will fall apart.

How could he justify everything up in till this point otherwise?
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The Republicans bluffed, democrats called it. The vote will pass the house and we can do this all again in a few months.
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NOOO!!!...Not you too DL! Don't go limp on us yet!
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So all this dramatic bullshit and for what?
Obamacare is still in effect and we're just as screwed as ever.
What a joke this country is.
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The Republicans bluffed, democrats called it. The vote will pass the house and we can do this all again in a few months.
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NOOO!!!...Not you too DL! Don't go limp on us yet!
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It's over. Cry baby Boehner and a few moderates along with democrats will get this bitch through. It's over man.

It'll be a long time before I vote GOP again.
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If the House caves in now everything they have done until this point has been for nothing...There won't be a deal.
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Business Insider ‏@businessinsider 3 min
Yes, @sentedcruz just joined the #surrendercaucus [link to read.bi]
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Dem poll: Shutdown could hurt GOP in Senate races [link to politi.co]
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Re: UPDATE: BOEHNER, CANTOR, MCCARTHY SAID TO VOTE YES FOR SENATE DEAL BILL!!!
Yes, I'm very confused my self.

My twitter feed (OH BTW I did the INTERVIEW today with FOX NEWS and name dropped GodLikeProductions! ... it was about how "grassroots is now the internet" etc etc, anyhow, i'll post a link when it airs the producer said in Late October.


ANYHOW -

It seems everyone is saying "Deal is reached." - Crisis over.

Yet, the house has to approve anything sent over from the Senate - Sooo....


What the hell man?

and also the 2/3rds or 50%+1 - Did we get an answer on that?

Ted Cruz also sort of.... well, he's going to vote YEA yet is blasting all those who... also vote YEA...

I don't get it?

Arghhh!
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The Republicans bluffed, democrats called it. The vote will pass the house and we can do this all again in a few months.
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I don't think anybody is bluffing now, and I think their scared to death about what they are going to find on the other side of the door when they do.

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