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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6841611 United States 10/16/2013 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Download the free chirp software..then get a payed subscription to radio reference.com.. You can download/ import their frequency database directly to the radio...dual watch is a hoot..you can listen to your favorite FM radio station and leave the other channel on another frequency...like EMS dispatch...as soon as a call goes out it interrupst the FM then receives the EMS. Full instructions on miklor.com |
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Nikola Tesla User ID: 48326183 United States 10/16/2013 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not an 'ALL MODE' HAM transceiver, it covers UHF/VHF channels (2 meter) So really, it covers a small spectrum of HAM frequencies, the transmit power is quite low as is the receiving wattage. Still a cool little radio for the money though. Yep, if it was "ALL MODE" it's coverage would begin at 1.8 MHz. I have one, it's an interesting little handheld. Tesla "One person with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson "You’ve heard that we are what we eat. But we also are what we think". “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." -William F. Buckley Jr. |
El Quisqueyano User ID: 25675669 United States 10/16/2013 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.amazon.com] Quoting: UV5R & Voyager 43928446 A UV5R is a "hack" all mode Ham radio from China. With the intentions of penetrating our comm systems by simply putting the means in an easy/affordable package to unruly bored Americans. However, it's a dam fine radio that honestly does everything it claims. The quality is so stupid high for $35 it is mind boggling! If you don't have a Ham, get this & learn to play with it. It's easy enough I assure you! Many do not think about this, but when TPTB go into "lockdown" in other countries (still happening) Shortwave and Ham is about the ONLY means to find out solid outside intel and keep communications. Most think this is stone age tech from the past, but most are also blind-sighted by the easily controlled communications we have here, (that can all be switched off in a minutes time). On to Short-Wave.... [link to www.amazon.com] Here is a very nice Voyager I personally own as well. I didn't buy this for all the extra goodies; crank/solar/usb/AA power, or that it can also charge out the USB for phones and what-not, or the decent built-in lighting, or the fine tuning, or the cool look in a well protected case... or..... I bought it for good shortwave reception (with ease of use). I have no issues picking up all around the world (I do have a $7 clothesline-coil antenna but happy with the stock most of the time). What is most important about this radio to me is the proper scan functions. I have a SHTF list of frequencies, but lets face it... you can never know all, and never know who's going to fire up a station if/when SHTF... so a proper digital scan is a must. I've had other's (digital w/scan) but this has a great sensitivity. These two things (the UV5R HAM and the Voyager Pro) are honestly more important than almost anything I have for when SHTF. Plus I use them often, they are both functional and fun. SO you could get both of these radio's for $100, and have better solid communications than most anyone you know. Knowledge=Power and in any emergency Communications=Knowledge Just purchased both. Is the UV5R able to transmit into emergency channels like fire, EMS and police frequencies? Not that I would, but would be useful when TSHTF. |
ReadyInPa User ID: 21147508 United States 10/16/2013 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.amazon.com] Quoting: UV5R & Voyager 43928446 A UV5R is a "hack" all mode Ham radio from China. With the intentions of penetrating our comm systems by simply putting the means in an easy/affordable package to unruly bored Americans. However, it's a dam fine radio that honestly does everything it claims. The quality is so stupid high for $35 it is mind boggling! If you don't have a Ham, get this & learn to play with it. It's easy enough I assure you! Many do not think about this, but when TPTB go into "lockdown" in other countries (still happening) Shortwave and Ham is about the ONLY means to find out solid outside intel and keep communications. Most think this is stone age tech from the past, but most are also blind-sighted by the easily controlled communications we have here, (that can all be switched off in a minutes time). On to Short-Wave.... [link to www.amazon.com] Here is a very nice Voyager I personally own as well. I didn't buy this for all the extra goodies; crank/solar/usb/AA power, or that it can also charge out the USB for phones and what-not, or the decent built-in lighting, or the fine tuning, or the cool look in a well protected case... or..... I bought it for good shortwave reception (with ease of use). I have no issues picking up all around the world (I do have a $7 clothesline-coil antenna but happy with the stock most of the time). What is most important about this radio to me is the proper scan functions. I have a SHTF list of frequencies, but lets face it... you can never know all, and never know who's going to fire up a station if/when SHTF... so a proper digital scan is a must. I've had other's (digital w/scan) but this has a great sensitivity. These two things (the UV5R HAM and the Voyager Pro) are honestly more important than almost anything I have for when SHTF. Plus I use them often, they are both functional and fun. SO you could get both of these radio's for $100, and have better solid communications than most anyone you know. Knowledge=Power and in any emergency Communications=Knowledge Just purchased both. Is the UV5R able to transmit into emergency channels like fire, EMS and police frequencies? Not that I would, but would be useful when TSHTF. Out of the box, no, you can not transmit on those restricted frequencies. You can listen and find out what is going on, but not transmit otherwise you would have jackasses stepping on an EMS trying to respond to save your life If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. -Thomas Paine |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46556554 United States 10/16/2013 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you don't have a Ham, get this & learn to play with it. It's easy enough I assure you! Quoting: UV5R & Voyager 43928446 Easy enough to get a visit from the FCC if you press the wrong buttons. This is the worst advice I've seen with regards to Ham radio. These devices can and will transmit on frequencies that are illegal to transmit on OUT OF THE BOX! Unless you know how to program the radio to block out these frequencies I wouldn't recommend anyone use these out of the box as is. You can easily interfere with public service and other frequencies that will get you a visit from the FCC. BTW these are ILLEGAL to use on FRS and GMRS services. Pick the wrong frequency or accidentaly touch the PTT button and you're facing your own personal SHTF. fuck you gubby shill troll. You all lost your shit, and only weak minded sheeple could fall for your fear-mongering BS. :blackflag150: |
ReadyInPa User ID: 21147508 United States 10/16/2013 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is something to think about folks. Several of my friends have all purchased radios and most of us have already completed our Ham Exam. I am I a die hard HAM guy, nope. Do I think knowing what is going on around me is a good idea, yes. Do I think being able to chat across town with like minded people is a good idea, yep. Maybe having a communication protocol in place would be a good idea with your closest friends. Maybe being able to listen to NOAA and local police is good idea too... If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. -Thomas Paine |
ReadyInPa User ID: 21147508 United States 10/16/2013 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you don't have a Ham, get this & learn to play with it. It's easy enough I assure you! Quoting: UV5R & Voyager 43928446 Easy enough to get a visit from the FCC if you press the wrong buttons. This is the worst advice I've seen with regards to Ham radio. These devices can and will transmit on frequencies that are illegal to transmit on OUT OF THE BOX! Unless you know how to program the radio to block out these frequencies I wouldn't recommend anyone use these out of the box as is. You can easily interfere with public service and other frequencies that will get you a visit from the FCC. BTW these are ILLEGAL to use on FRS and GMRS services. Pick the wrong frequency or accidentaly touch the PTT button and you're facing your own personal SHTF. You are completely wrong. out of the box these frequencies are blocked. You would need to un-solder certain pins to get this activated or buy a unit that was already broken. You are correct regarding FRS and GMRS. Dead wrong on Police/EMS frequencies. If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. -Thomas Paine |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46556554 United States 10/16/2013 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^^^^^^^^^^that and the output is too low to warrant a concern This is something to think about folks. Several of my friends have all purchased radios and most of us have already completed our Ham Exam. I am I a die hard HAM guy, nope. Do I think knowing what is going on around me is a good idea, yes. Do I think being able to chat across town with like minded people is a good idea, yep. Maybe having a communication protocol in place would be a good idea with your closest friends. Maybe being able to listen to NOAA and local police is good idea too... Quoting: ReadyInPa :jay: The tools are only useful if they are understood and used properly. Training is the right way to get there. That is rational, and should be obvious. |
Interdimensional warrior User ID: 48459581 United States 10/16/2013 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43928446 Umm, I hate to be the on to break it to you but the transmit range on that chink piece of crap MIGHT be across the street, if you're lucky. Low power LINE OF SIGhT rf communications at much ,much higher frequencies are doable, but not in these freq ranges. ham radio setups that can transmit reliably at distance typically have hundreds or thousands of watts output, that would be lucky to peak a watt or two |
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Sledster User ID: 40297908 Germany 10/16/2013 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not an 'ALL MODE' HAM transceiver, it covers UHF/VHF channels (2 meter) So really, it covers a small spectrum of HAM frequencies, the transmit power is quite low as is the receiving wattage. Still a cool little radio for the money though. Yep, if it was "ALL MODE" it's coverage would begin at 1.8 MHz. I have one, it's an interesting little handheld. Tesla I thought "all mode" had to do with the actual "mode" of transmission, as in USB, LSB, FM, WFM, AM, CW...etc. Did I miss something in 31M20 school? I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already! Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 48020713 Spain 10/16/2013 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't put too much effort in the gear at the end of the wire. First you'll need a real fucking good antenna, most important. I've been into radio in my youth and had one like these [link to www.iol.ie] I had 300 Watt AM and my my neighbors would hear me out of their fridges. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 43928446 United States 10/16/2013 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so for a newb in this, wich is a good, and most of all affordable one for me? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43901661 UV5R is only $30 Search Yahoo Groups UV5R! Simple stuff well, i just ordered one. hopefully its easy to program. I figure it'll be nice to listen in on 2m, and my local marine. Quoting: ifSHTF It's real easy, don't use the computer and do it manually... To store a frequency just punch it in / Menu / 27 / Menu / Menu / Exit The voice lady will tell you "confirmed" Not at all easy to program. IF you do, the computer cable is a MUST. Better off paying someone that sells these at a gun show $10 to program it for you Ok both you two, here's the Yahoo group! [link to groups.yahoo.com] Here's a great site for programming via computer... [link to www.miklor.com] It's real simple, once you get it you get it |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 43928446 United States 10/16/2013 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.amazon.com] Quoting: UV5R & Voyager 43928446 A UV5R is a "hack" all mode Ham radio from China. With the intentions of penetrating our comm systems by simply putting the means in an easy/affordable package to unruly bored Americans. solid communications than most anyone you know. Knowledge=Power and in any emergency Communications=Knowledge Just purchased both. Is the UV5R able to transmit into emergency channels like fire, EMS and police frequencies? Not that I would, but would be useful when TSHTF. Yes, but THIS IS VERY ILLEGAL (Unless it is a life threatening situation) We had a 9day power outage and the first 2days there was NO 911, NO SHERIFF. If something bad blew my way I would have used it. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 43928446 United States 10/16/2013 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you don't have a Ham, get this & learn to play with it. It's easy enough I assure you! Quoting: UV5R & Voyager 43928446 Easy enough to get a visit from the FCC if you press the wrong buttons. This is the worst advice I've seen with regards to Ham radio. These devices can and will transmit on frequencies that are illegal to transmit on OUT OF THE BOX! Unless you know how to program the radio to block out these frequencies I wouldn't recommend anyone use these out of the box as is. You can easily interfere with public service and other frequencies that will get you a visit from the FCC. BTW these are ILLEGAL to use on FRS and GMRS services. Pick the wrong frequency or accidentaly touch the PTT button and you're facing your own personal SHTF. You are completely wrong. out of the box these frequencies are blocked. You would need to un-solder certain pins to get this activated or buy a unit that was already broken. You are correct regarding FRS and GMRS. Dead wrong on Police/EMS frequencies. You ARE BOTH WRONG! In the last video I posted it clearly shows 2 police frequencies and working, it did not come out the box that way, ONE JUST PUNCHES IT IN! No soldering or anything.... Geez :) These are from China, designed for use WORLD WIDE. If they (blocked/jammed) the use of all the official frequencies THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY LEFT UNBLOCKED! Sorry.... Peace bothers :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48008080 Turkey 10/16/2013 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here you go a multiple band (Including air band) handheld trans receiver [link to www.ebay.com] Also a Digital DPMR with 70cm band [link to www.ebay.com] Buy these two or buy Hackrf by Michael Ossmann [link to www.kickstarter.com] Wanna go full-duplex BUY BLADERF [link to nuand.com] This is all you need in case you expect DOOM. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48020713 Spain 10/16/2013 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gear up [link to www.amazon.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43085320 United States 10/16/2013 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.amazon.com] Quoting: UV5R & Voyager 43928446 A UV5R is a "hack" all mode Ham radio from China. With the intentions of penetrating our comm systems by simply putting the means in an easy/affordable package to unruly bored Americans. However, it's a dam fine radio that honestly does everything it claims. The quality is so stupid high for $35 it is mind boggling! If you don't have a Ham, get this & learn to play with it. It's easy enough I assure you! Many do not think about this, but when TPTB go into "lockdown" in other countries (still happening) Shortwave and Ham is about the ONLY means to find out solid outside intel and keep communications. Most think this is stone age tech from the past, but most are also blind-sighted by the easily controlled communications we have here, (that can all be switched off in a minutes time). On to Short-Wave.... [link to www.amazon.com] Here is a very nice Voyager I personally own as well. I didn't buy this for all the extra goodies; crank/solar/usb/AA power, or that it can also charge out the USB for phones and what-not, or the decent built-in lighting, or the fine tuning, or the cool look in a well protected case... or..... I bought it for good shortwave reception (with ease of use). I have no issues picking up all around the world (I do have a $7 clothesline-coil antenna but happy with the stock most of the time). What is most important about this radio to me is the proper scan functions. I have a SHTF list of frequencies, but lets face it... you can never know all, and never know who's going to fire up a station if/when SHTF... so a proper digital scan is a must. I've had other's (digital w/scan) but this has a great sensitivity. These two things (the UV5R HAM and the Voyager Pro) are honestly more important than almost anything I have for when SHTF. Plus I use them often, they are both functional and fun. SO you could get both of these radio's for $100, and have better solid communications than most anyone you know. Knowledge=Power and in any emergency Communications=Knowledge is there a list of shth frequencies or link to such? thank you also what's the best for me to buy for my family to be in touch for emergenies or tsunami evacuation? this happened to us in 2011 here in hawaii and NONE of our 3 cell phones worked for several hours when we needed them most! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 43928446 United States 10/16/2013 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm, I hate to be the on to break it to you but the transmit range on that chink piece of crap MIGHT be across the street, if you're lucky. Low power LINE OF SIGhT rf communications at much ,much higher frequencies are doable, but not in these freq ranges. ham radio setups that can transmit reliably at distance typically have hundreds or thousands of watts output, that would be lucky to peak a watt or two Listen here doc, no facking handheld out there is this, you sir are talking out your ass. These are 5watt, and 460MHz isn't fracking high enough but high enough for the police!??! Damn trolls |
ifSHTF User ID: 34510652 United States 10/16/2013 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so for a newb in this, wich is a good, and most of all affordable one for me? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43901661 UV5R is only $30 Search Yahoo Groups UV5R! Simple stuff well, i just ordered one. hopefully its easy to program. I figure it'll be nice to listen in on 2m, and my local marine. Quoting: ifSHTF It's real easy, don't use the computer and do it manually... To store a frequency just punch it in / Menu / 27 / Menu / Menu / Exit The voice lady will tell you "confirmed" Not at all easy to program. IF you do, the computer cable is a MUST. Better off paying someone that sells these at a gun show $10 to program it for you Ok both you two, here's the Yahoo group! [link to groups.yahoo.com] Here's a great site for programming via computer... [link to www.miklor.com] It's real simple, once you get it you get it Thank you. |
Sierahotel User ID: 47203054 Canada 10/16/2013 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | VE3XSH here. I highly recommend that all of you get your amateur radio licence if you have not already. I had a Baofeng UV3R and an icom 100W HF SSB transceiver hooked up for a while when I was not yet licensed. I was curious, wanted to "be prepared" and have a technical interest so would listen to the ham activity and do radio tests. When I actually got licensed it really opened the the bands up to me for full exploration. I can say honestly that 75% of the conversation is radio technology. Antenna design and experimentation. HF is good for novelty, talking all the way around the world, but is really spotty and highly depends on space weather. Costs around $1500 to do with all new off the shelf gear. VHF and UHF is really the most practical for urban/family/survival communications. As for which HT is best for you. The advantage of the Baofeng radios is that they are not FCC compliant. They do not limit frequencies as part of a band plan. For instance, an HT ham radio purchased in the US can't transmit on Marine channels, 16 156.800. Likewise, an icom or standard horizon submersible handheld can't transmit on the ham frequencies. The Baofengs work on both, so they are versatile and a great value as a swiss army knife radio. But they are cheap and not made well. They abruptly turn off sometimes and the software is way more basic. If we're talking survival prep here, the best radios you can get are the 5 watt marine handheld radios you can buy at Westmarine. For around $100 you get a submersible radio that can talk over the horizon, and you can speak directly to coast guard, search and rescue etc. You just have to be aware that FCC regulates that you can't transmit from LAND with one. But when you are deep in the bush, offshore, or SHTF etc. You are going to want a submersible 2 VHF radio for durability. If you're stuck on a roof and there are flood waters all round you, chances are you can talk directly to a coast guard helicopter pilot or rescue boat driver. And keep in mind. If your life is at risk, if there is actual mortal danger, you are at liberty to transmit on any frequency you can to request a rescue. 73 Lord Captain Cuba |
Chugiakian User ID: 32758406 United States 10/16/2013 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.amazon.com] Quoting: UV5R & Voyager 43928446 A UV5R is a "hack" all mode Ham radio from China. With the intentions of penetrating our comm systems by simply putting the means in an easy/affordable package to unruly bored Americans. However, it's a dam fine radio that honestly does everything it claims. The quality is so stupid high for $35 it is mind boggling! If you don't have a Ham, get this & learn to play with it. It's easy enough I assure you! Many do not think about this, but when TPTB go into "lockdown" in other countries (still happening) Shortwave and Ham is about the ONLY means to find out solid outside intel and keep communications. Most think this is stone age tech from the past, but most are also blind-sighted by the easily controlled communications we have here, (that can all be switched off in a minutes time). On to Short-Wave.... [link to www.amazon.com] Here is a very nice Voyager I personally own as well. I didn't buy this for all the extra goodies; crank/solar/usb/AA power, or that it can also charge out the USB for phones and what-not, or the decent built-in lighting, or the fine tuning, or the cool look in a well protected case... or..... I bought it for good shortwave reception (with ease of use). I have no issues picking up all around the world (I do have a $7 clothesline-coil antenna but happy with the stock most of the time). What is most important about this radio to me is the proper scan functions. I have a SHTF list of frequencies, but lets face it... you can never know all, and never know who's going to fire up a station if/when SHTF... so a proper digital scan is a must. I've had other's (digital w/scan) but this has a great sensitivity. These two things (the UV5R HAM and the Voyager Pro) are honestly more important than almost anything I have for when SHTF. Plus I use them often, they are both functional and fun. SO you could get both of these radio's for $100, and have better solid communications than most anyone you know. Knowledge=Power and in any emergency Communications=Knowledge Chugiakian |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 43928446 United States 10/16/2013 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you think of TecSun? Quoting: tandym Also, did you literally mean clothesline? The rubber coating doesn't interfere? [link to www.amazon.com] a nickname for them.. I don't know either way on TecSun. I know I've had radioshack(some brand) and 2 etons & I'd take kaito over both easily |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48315716 United States 10/16/2013 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I use the UV-5R for 2m packet radio. I have the UV-5R connected to a Paccomm HandiPacket TNC, with custom internal bluetooth serial port. I had to cut a trace on the UV-5R circuit board and solder a wire to the audio jack. The audio impedance was out of range to work with my TNC. The UV-5R may work with other TNCs without this hack. It works great and its very compact. I use a PocketPC with APRS/CE maps and a simple serial terminal program for accessing the internal TNC mailbox. The entire setup will run 12 hours on a single charge. The stock antenna is terrible, so look into getting a better antenna. I chose the MFJ 1717S dual-band. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 43928446 United States 10/16/2013 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | VE3XSH here. Quoting: Sierahotel As for which HT is best for you. The advantage of the Baofeng radios is that they are not FCC compliant. They do not limit frequencies as part of a band plan. ^^^ This is what I was meaning by "All Mode"... "plus they do not have a unique RF Fingerprint, so a professor told me" |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 43928446 United States 10/16/2013 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I use the UV-5R for 2m packet radio. I have the UV-5R connected to a Paccomm HandiPacket TNC, with custom internal bluetooth serial port. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48315716 I had to cut a trace on the UV-5R circuit board and solder a wire to the audio jack. The audio impedance was out of range to work with my TNC. The UV-5R may work with other TNCs without this hack. It works great and its very compact. I use a PocketPC with APRS/CE maps and a simple serial terminal program for accessing the internal TNC mailbox. The entire setup will run 12 hours on a single charge. The stock antenna is terrible, so look into getting a better antenna. I chose the MFJ 1717S dual-band. THAT IS FackinG AWESOME! |