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Social-Security Checks will Stop when Debt Ceiling is Reached - Obama will NOT NEGOTIATE. Repo Rates Soar!! Boehner Caves!

 
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Beware of the people promoting hysteria, fear, and "American is done" sentiments. It is a pysop, plain and simple and the simple folks on here who call themselves "aware" are falling for it. Think of it as computer warfare - you have people on here day after day trying their hardest to stir up shit - panic, fear, anti-America sentiment.....now ask yourself why?
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the Social Security account has nothing to do with the national budget, nor spending. Itis a separate savings account paid into by, not the general public, but by the members only, who have paid into it all their lives of Private Sector pay checks.
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Any do you trust that it is still there? When we see jack offs like Ben Bernake with a blank look on his face as he can't explain where 4 trillion has disappeared to, can we trust that they haven't dipped into SS too?

Nothing but criminals running the government.
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plundering, destroying, raping War mongers:

Our Social Security account has already been plundered of $3 Trillion on the pretext of a "loan", and never a cent, yet, hasbeen paid back, leaving us, the recipients, of our life’s savings, with crumbs on our table that havebeen brushed off the lavish tables of the governments' for us, their slaves, to eat in bitter gall.
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We take in sufficient receipts to cover the debt maintenance, provide for common defense(a constitutional mandate) & cover Soc. Sec. (people did pay for this) -- ASSUMING those are the priorities taken by the Executive Branch.

Therein lies the problem -- Executive Branch (The Prez) will be the one making the priorities. Will he fund the abovementioned or fund his Free Shit Army voting bloc????
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Beware of the people promoting hysteria, fear, and "American is done" sentiments. It is a pysop, plain and simple and the simple folks on here who call themselves "aware" are falling for it. Think of it as computer warfare - you have people on here day after day trying their hardest to stir up shit - panic, fear, anti-America sentiment.....now ask yourself why?
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You are correct. There is a very blatant and concerted effort to put the masses in fear and to keep them in fear.

As to why they are doing this, I suspect that it has everything to do with an incoming Space threat.

TPTB have spent trillions of dollars over the last few decades building underground bunkers and cities for themselves. Why would they do that, if not for a Space threat?

Anyway, we should not allow ourselves to live in fear. Make a mental note of what the lunatics in D.C. are doing, but then file it away.

Focus instead upon raising your spirituality to prepare for whatever is coming because "something" is definitely coming that will make a food stamp cutoff and the buffoonery in D.C. the least of anyone's worries.

Please know/remember that we are Spiritual Beings having a Human experience. NDE's and OBE's are ample proof that we are not our bodies. When our physical bodies expire, we simply transition into another state of being elsewhere in the Universe.
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The tea party's base collects social security.


Well played, O, well played!
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Beware of the people promoting hysteria, fear, and "American is done" sentiments. It is a pysop, plain and simple and the simple folks on here who call themselves "aware" are falling for it. Think of it as computer warfare - you have people on here day after day trying their hardest to stir up shit - panic, fear, anti-America sentiment.....now ask yourself why?
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Im not trying to incite fear, nor am i a fear monger.
I simply call it as i see it.
They have been planning this for years. They have spent trillions of dollars on their own personal armies, and under ground bunkers. They have spent money like a terminal cancer patient that maxes out their credit cards knowing it will never have to be repaid.
All these things combined with allot of other things send a clear message.
Some people just cant accept that message.
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You beat me to it!
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WASHINGTON (AP) - Senate leaders reached agreement Wednesday to avert a threatened Treasury default and reopen the government after a partial, 16-day shutdown, according to a Republican senator who also said the House might vote first on the plan to speed its approval.

"I understand they've come to an agreement but I'm going to let the leader announce that," Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H., said as she walked into a meeting of Senate Republicans called to review details of the emerging deal struck by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and GOP Leader Mitch McConnell.

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This is just a fear tactic. It works because taking money away from the "elderly" is seen as being cruel. I put elderly in parenthesis because I know many "elderly" who are far from frail and helpless that suck off the SS dole. They are in good health and could still be working. Instead they want to sit on their asses at home 40% of the time and run the roads to the casino the other 60% of the time and then bitch that they can't live off of SS and that is needs to be more. Um, clue phone leeching bastards, SS was NEVER intended to be a fucking high roller retirement fund. It is SUPPLEMENTAL meaning that it is there to supplement what you set aside for retirement IN ADDITION to SS. Also, what you paid in was never put in an account with your name on it. It has always been a pay as you go system meaning that everything you paid was immediately given to someone else who was already on SS and now if you are no longer working and paying in everything you are getting from SS is being paid by someone else who is currently working.

Anyway, with that being said, many of the gimmies who are sucking off of SS when they are still in perfectly good health and capable of working (retirement is not a fucking right) did pay something into the system so zero needs to cut off all the leeches on SNAP, WIC, HUD, SEC 8 before he cuts off SS benefits to those who paid in. Those on SS who didn't pay in should also be cut off along with the leeches on SNAP, WIC, HUD, Sec 8, fed backed student loans and grants etc though.

Still retirement is not a right and people worked until they dropped dead (while on the job) until about 20-30 years ago. This whole I'm gonna work until I'm 62 and then sit on my ass and do nothing but suck off SS and bitch that I can't live off it even though I am perfectly capable of working still and will most likely live another 25+ fucking years is a new phenomenon and it's a bullshit one at that. The average time a person drew SS when the program first started was 1-2 years, not a quarter of a fucking century. This is not sustainable.
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But with House Speaker John Boehner losing support for the latest House plan, the odds increased that the chamber could be left taking up whatever the Senate might send over.

Some Democrats urged Republicans to throw in the towel. "You have two options -- you can get bowled over by the Senate or you can get bowled over by the Senate," said one House Democratic aide.

Senate negotiators are racing against a Thursday deadline to raise the debt ceiling.

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my real life experience last weekend

an elderly lady crying, fearing she would run out of food soon and die of hunger. I told her that we the people would help each other, as we have always done it. what else could I have said, I was scared myself ...

I pray they will open their hearts and do the work in the interest of the people who voted them into office.
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Obama: Social Security Checks Will Stop When Debt Ceiling Is Reached

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Yup. here we go, it's The Planet of the Apes all over again...
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House expected to pass Senate deal first, could reach Obama's desk today

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Obama would rather see the country go up in flames than have his beloved Obamacare tampered with.
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Symbolic

London Bridge is broken down,
Broken down, broken down.
London Bridge is broken down,
My fair lady.

Build it up with wood and clay,
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Wash away, wash away,
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My fair lady.

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My fair lady.

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My fair lady.

Iron and steel will bend and bow,
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My fair lady.

Build it up with silver and gold,
Silver and gold, silver and gold,
Build it up with silver and gold,
My fair lady.

Silver and gold will be stolen away,
Stolen away, stolen away,
Silver and gold will be stolen away,
My fair lady.

Set a man to watch all night,
Watch all night, watch all night,
Set a man to watch all night,
My fair lady.

Suppose the man should fall asleep,
Fall asleep, fall asleep,
Suppose the man should fall asleep?
My fair lady.

Give him a pipe to smoke all night,
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Obama absolutely CAN NOT stop Social Security Payments
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my real life experience last weekend

an elderly lady crying, fearing she would run out of food soon and die of hunger. I told her that we the people would help each other, as we have always done it. what else could I have said, I was scared myself ...

I pray they will open their hearts and do the work in the interest of the people who voted them into office.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44495061


take a look at the comments in this thread. This is how the people will help those who need it. " let them starve" send that old person to a labor camp" ect. ect. There isn't going to be anyone willing to help anyone too much greed
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Symbolic

London Bridge is broken down,
Broken down, broken down.
London Bridge is broken down,
My fair lady.

Build it up with wood and clay,
Wood and clay, wood and clay,
Build it up with wood and clay,
My fair lady.

Wood and clay will wash away,
Wash away, wash away,
Wood and clay will wash away,
My fair lady.

Build it up with bricks and mortar,
Bricks and mortar, bricks and mortar,
Build it up with bricks and mortar,
My fair lady.

Bricks and mortar will not stay,
Will not stay, will not stay,
Bricks and mortar will not stay,
My fair lady.

Build it up with iron and steel,
Iron and steel, iron and steel,
Build it up with iron and steel,
My fair lady.

Iron and steel will bend and bow,
Bend and bow, bend and bow,
Iron and steel will bend and bow,
My fair lady.

Build it up with silver and gold,
Silver and gold, silver and gold,
Build it up with silver and gold,
My fair lady.

Silver and gold will be stolen away,
Stolen away, stolen away,
Silver and gold will be stolen away,
My fair lady.

Set a man to watch all night,
Watch all night, watch all night,
Set a man to watch all night,
My fair lady.

Suppose the man should fall asleep,
Fall asleep, fall asleep,
Suppose the man should fall asleep?
My fair lady.

Give him a pipe to smoke all night,
Smoke all night, smoke all night,
Give him a pipe to smoke all night,
My fair lady.
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Good one!

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This is just a fear tactic. It works because taking money away from the "elderly" is seen as being cruel. I put elderly in parenthesis because I know many "elderly" who are far from frail and helpless that suck off the SS dole. They are in good health and could still be working. Instead they want to sit on their asses at home 40% of the time and run the roads to the casino the other 60% of the time and then bitch that they can't live off of SS and that is needs to be more. Um, clue phone leeching bastards, SS was NEVER intended to be a fucking high roller retirement fund. It is SUPPLEMENTAL meaning that it is there to supplement what you set aside for retirement IN ADDITION to SS. Also, what you paid in was never put in an account with your name on it. It has always been a pay as you go system meaning that everything you paid was immediately given to someone else who was already on SS and now if you are no longer working and paying in everything you are getting from SS is being paid by someone else who is currently working.

Anyway, with that being said, many of the gimmies who are sucking off of SS when they are still in perfectly good health and capable of working (retirement is not a fucking right) did pay something into the system so zero needs to cut off all the leeches on SNAP, WIC, HUD, SEC 8 before he cuts off SS benefits to those who paid in. Those on SS who didn't pay in should also be cut off along with the leeches on SNAP, WIC, HUD, Sec 8, fed backed student loans and grants etc though.

Still retirement is not a right and people worked until they dropped dead (while on the job) until about 20-30 years ago. This whole I'm gonna work until I'm 62 and then sit on my ass and do nothing but suck off SS and bitch that I can't live off it even though I am perfectly capable of working still and will most likely live another 25+ fucking years is a new phenomenon and it's a bullshit one at that. The average time a person drew SS when the program first started was 1-2 years, not a quarter of a fucking century. This is not sustainable.
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Well said. My dad planned his retirement on the assumption that SS would not be there for him. He retired at 57 and lived off his stash until he hit 65. He collects a nice SS check now since he paid a substantial amount into the system.

I've always told him he is a barometer. When the government runs out of funny money, who will be cut first? They certainly aren't going to cut LaTreen and Dashiqua's handouts, as they will burn down Flint and Newark. But slice SS payments to wealthy individuals? Sure thing. J. Morton Rockyfellow won't be trashing the Hamptons when his SS benefits get cut in half.

Now, my thoughts on this "default": Last year about this time, the girlfriend and I were on a trip in N. California back-country when the news came on. It was all about the "Fiscal Cliff" then. She said, at the last moment, the government would "cross a T, dot an I, and add a comma" and the crisis would be averted until the next one came up. That will happen here. Some sort of minor concessions, an extension of the debt ceiling, and then another distraction by the media (haven't heard much about Iran lately). Come early next year, another shutdown and default drama.

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