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What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.

 
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What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
I can understand that.

The problem is that things WILL change whether you want them to or not. No amount of bitching, protesting, picketing or contacting corrupt politicians will stop it.

The reason is that this change is different than the changes in the past. This coming change is much bigger than some government, politician, leader or form of law.

This change will transform the whole reality.

But, most people can't grasp that. They can't see the world changing at that level. It has never happened before. Why now?

Because it is time...
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
The anger comes when conservatives are asked to consider that the coming change cannot be stopped no matter what they do or what they believe.

Money has always worked before to change politicians minds and to get things back the way the wealthy wanted them to be.

But, it is no longer working. Why? Because the politicians are not in control of this coming change. They are as scared and lost as you are...
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
Now here is the hardest and most frightening concept to consider here. Once you accept that this amazing change will happen and cannot be stopped, the fear will dissipate.

I'm not saying to lay down and to give up. I'm saying to just take what comes and deal with it as it happens. Stop trying to make this world back into what it used to be. But, to accept it for what it becomes and then deal with it accordingly.

This what humans have always done. We are tough beings.
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
You obviously do not know what a conservative is.
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
It has happened before.
I believe it was referred to first in recorded history as the dark ages.
I prefer rule of law over rule of man however and change came to that period in the form of the Magna Carta.
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
It has happened before.
I believe it was referred to first in recorded history as the dark ages.
I prefer rule of law over rule of man however and change came to that period in the form of the Magna Carta.
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No one can know for sure until it finally arrives, but I see this coming change as something that has NEVER happened on earth before.

It has been rumored, talked about in prophecies and in myths, but never seen before.

But, there is no proof such an event. We'll just have to wait and see.
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
You obviously do not know what a conservative is.
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Everyone seems to have different understandings of what a "conservative" is. Labels get thrown around everywhere. everyday. Most of them wrong.
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
Must be troll post.

If not, you won't goingto bunker,meatsmear
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
You obviously do not know what a conservative is.
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Everyone seems to have different understandings of what a "conservative" is. Labels get thrown around everywhere. everyday. Most of them wrong.
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Yours is completely wrong!
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
Must be troll post.

If not, you won't goingto bunker,meatsmear
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No troll.

I have always known that I would not be allowed into the underground bunkers. I would not go even if I was offered a spot.

No problem here.
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
You obviously do not know what a conservative is.
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Everyone seems to have different understandings of what a "conservative" is. Labels get thrown around everywhere. everyday. Most of them wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37087431


Yours is completely wrong!
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We'll see.
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
Must be troll post.

If not, you won't goingto bunker,meatsmear
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No troll.

I have always known that I would not be allowed into the underground bunkers. I would not go even if I was offered a spot.

No problem here.
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You make no sense. Why are you participating in the rhetoric if you don't have a reservation in the catacombs?

You're right, this is huge and conservatives aren't your enemy.
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
you're either trolling or you have never even researched what a conservative is

You have different types of conservatives ....

Social conservatives .... Fiscal conservatives .... and people that are both social and fiscal conservatives

a social conservative believes in traditional moral values .... That if something was morally flawed 50 years ago that it's still flawed in 2013 .... And they are right ....morality doesn't change .....people change

a fiscal conservative believes that the best way to protect liberty and freedom is to keep government interference into the private life of citizens and businesses at the minimum threshold .... we believe that through simple observation by looking at the recorded history of the human race that we can unequivocally say that human instituted governments will always oppress its citizens .... Therefore to insure the God given rights of every citizen of this republic it is imparitive to put the most stringent restrictions on government ....these restrictions heavily restricts the elected official from interfering in the business affairs of citizens....it's heavily restricts how the government taxes it's citizens ....it heavily restricts what the government can spend money on ....etc...etc...

so how in the world could you disagree with any of that?

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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
I can understand that.

The problem is that things WILL change whether you want them to or not. No amount of bitching, protesting, picketing or contacting corrupt politicians will stop it.

The reason is that this change is different than the changes in the past. This coming change is much bigger than some government, politician, leader or form of law.

This change will transform the whole reality.

But, most people can't grasp that. They can't see the world changing at that level. It has never happened before. Why now?

Because it is time...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37087431


It's time to what? Accept a Global Totalitarian Dictatorship?

So what is this mysterious "change" you keep alluding to, but neglecting to actually explain...Maybe the reason most can't grasp it is because the ones that claim to can't explain it any better than you do. It seems a bit suspicious to me.
I have long feared that my sins would return to visit me, and the cost is more than I can bear. - The Patriot
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
You make no sense. Why are you participating in the rhetoric if you don't have a reservation in the catacombs?

You're right, this is huge and conservatives aren't your enemy.
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*smile*

The thread is not about me posting my views. What does it matter if the world is going to change at the level I am proposing? I agree with you, it makes no sense!

My purpose of posting here was to give a small few a different perspective to consider that they had not considered before.

That there is no use fighting against what is coming. That is not the answer. The answer is to accept it with grace and love with no fear or hate.

Not to try and hide in an underground bunker, but to accept what is in store without fear.

I know. That is not a view that can be understood by many.

But again, I am only talking to a very small few here.
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
It has happened before.
I believe it was referred to first in recorded history as the dark ages.
I prefer rule of law over rule of man however and change came to that period in the form of the Magna Carta.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42989376


No one can know for sure until it finally arrives, but I see this coming change as something that has NEVER happened on earth before.

It has been rumored, talked about in prophecies and in myths, but never seen before.

But, there is no proof such an event. We'll just have to wait and see.
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Vote for it to see what's in it, eh?

I don't say this often anymore, but it seems warranted here: Fuck you.
I have long feared that my sins would return to visit me, and the cost is more than I can bear. - The Patriot
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
You make no sense. Why are you participating in the rhetoric if you don't have a reservation in the catacombs?

You're right, this is huge and conservatives aren't your enemy.
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*smile*

The thread is not about me posting my views. What does it matter if the world is going to change at the level I am proposing? I agree with you, it makes no sense!

My purpose of posting here was to give a small few a different perspective to consider that they had not considered before.

That there is no use fighting against what is coming. That is not the answer. The answer is to accept it with grace and love with no fear or hate.

Not to try and hide in an underground bunker, but to accept what is in store without fear.

I know. That is not a view that can be understood by many.

But again, I am only talking to a very small few here.
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Maybe you'd do better at DU or some other gullible Leftist Wingnut Peanut Gallery.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
I have long feared that my sins would return to visit me, and the cost is more than I can bear. - The Patriot
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
It's time to what? Accept a Global Totalitarian Dictatorship?

So what is this mysterious "change" you keep alluding to, but neglecting to actually explain...Maybe the reason most can't grasp it is because the ones that claim to can't explain it any better than you do. It seems a bit suspicious to me.
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No. I am saying that this change is so huge that Global Totalitarian Dictatorship or any form of government is not even an issue.

Therefore, not something to fear or to fight against.
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
Maybe you'd do better at DU or some other gullible Leftist Wingnut Peanut Gallery.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
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Why so hostile? What I believe really doesn't matter. What will happen, will happen no matter what you and I think.

So why are you angry at me?
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
It's time to what? Accept a Global Totalitarian Dictatorship?

So what is this mysterious "change" you keep alluding to, but neglecting to actually explain...Maybe the reason most can't grasp it is because the ones that claim to can't explain it any better than you do. It seems a bit suspicious to me.
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No. I am saying that this change is so huge that Global Totalitarian Dictatorship or any form of government is not even an issue.

Therefore, not something to fear or to fight against.
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But it must be put in place by control freak lefties and us conservatives should just sit down and shut up, huh?

Sounds perfectly reasonable.

:communication:
I have long feared that my sins would return to visit me, and the cost is more than I can bear. - The Patriot
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
Maybe you'd do better at DU or some other gullible Leftist Wingnut Peanut Gallery.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
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Why so hostile? What I believe really doesn't matter. What will happen, will happen no matter what you and I think.

So why are you angry at me?
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Because you nutcases are destroying my child's future.
I have long feared that my sins would return to visit me, and the cost is more than I can bear. - The Patriot
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
You make no sense. Why are you participating in the rhetoric if you don't have a reservation in the catacombs?

You're right, this is huge and conservatives aren't your enemy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48436391


*smile*

The thread is not about me posting my views. What does it matter if the world is going to change at the level I am proposing? I agree with you, it makes no sense!

My purpose of posting here was to give a small few a different perspective to consider that they had not considered before.

That there is no use fighting against what is coming. That is not the answer. The answer is to accept it with grace and love with no fear or hate.

Not to try and hide in an underground bunker, but to accept what is in store without fear.

I know. That is not a view that can be understood by many.

But again, I am only talking to a very small few here.
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Smile all you want I can cut your bullshit like French cheese but I would prefer not to, in case it smears my blouse. I don't want to sleep on the couch again.

Anyway have fun sliding in the grain. Nobody wants the NWO so it will be forced and you are the meat
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
I don't say this often anymore, but it seems warranted here: Fuck you.
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A "Frayed Knot" does seem to fit you well. Why so much hate? I am only posting a perspective not believed by many.

Is it not good to consider other ideas?
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
Maybe you'd do better at DU or some other gullible Leftist Wingnut Peanut Gallery.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
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Why so hostile? What I believe really doesn't matter. What will happen, will happen no matter what you and I think.

So why are you angry at me?
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Because you nutcases are destroying my child's future.
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I have no control. I have no power. I don't make the laws. I don't run the government. I don't hurt anyone. I am no one.

How could I destroy your child's future? Your hate and fear are doing that.
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
I don't say this often anymore, but it seems warranted here: Fuck you.
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A "Frayed Knot" does seem to fit you well. Why so much hate? I am only posting a perspective not believed by many.

Is it not good to consider other ideas?
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Evidently not if they are in any way, shape or form conservative.

Why don't you just move to a country that already embraces your utopian ideals? I hear Cuba's lovely this time of year. And North Korea certainly loves their Leader.

Go, go. We'll make it without you, I promise.
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
I don't say this often anymore, but it seems warranted here: Fuck you.
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A "Frayed Knot" does seem to fit you well. Why so much hate? I am only posting a perspective not believed by many.

Is it not good to consider other ideas?
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Evidently not if they are in any way, shape or form conservative.

Why don't you just move to a country that already embraces your utopian ideals? I hear Cuba's lovely this time of year. And North Korea certainly loves their Leader.

Go, go. We'll make it without you, I promise.
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Why does it ALWAYS come down to this "Love it or Leave it" line?

I am a Veteran that VOLUNTEERED to serve their country for 6 years. I bet that YOU never did that? Did you?

But you will tell me to leave if I don't think like you?

So, who is destroying America? You are...
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
I have no doubt at all that the world as we know it is about over.

What is my proof? Just look at how angry, afraid and insane people all around us are becoming! People are simply enraged, not just about what politicians are doing, but that everyone does not think the way they do!

They are just insanely angry that anyone could not think like them.

That is a sure sign that all hope is now lost...
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
Conservatives talk about freedom, laws and rights, but then in the same breath tell anyone that disagrees with them to leave!!!

What kind of screwed logic is that?

You people are truly insane...
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
You are veteran but can't understand simple concepts? H/s
As I called.
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Re: What exactly is a political "conservative"? It is someone that does not want the world/government/lives to change.
A conservative is someone that believes is personal responsibility.

We are responsible for working and taking care of our families THROUGH OUR OWN EFFORTS.

We are responsible for raising our children to be respectful and constructive to their own lives and to society, and we do it by living the example of OUR VALUES.

We believe that enabling others to expect a quality of existence that they are not willing to put any effort into is detrimental to everyone in this country.

We believe that, considering all of the reverse discrimination entitlement programs and affirmative actions given to a large segment of the poverty class, if they continue to lack the skills and education needed to improve their stations through honest effort, then they do so by choice.

It's not about forestalling change for the better.

It's about protecting the very laws and rights that have always ensured that this country was a place that we conservatives are free to choose personal responsibility and everyone else is free to choose something different.

The change that you speak of is a change from that very freedom, the American freedom, to a State mandated system that eliminates the right to choose our quality of life and enforces upon us an "equalization" of livelihood, meaning that we will be required to put forth the same effort, but instead of benefitting from our effort, we will reside in mandated and equalized poverty, while subject to the restrictions of being State property instead of free citizens.

That is not "changing" America.

That is eradicating America.
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You are veteran but can't understand simple concepts? H/s
As I called.
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Veterans are just people like everyone else. Some bright, some dumb. Some good, some bad. Just people.

But, conservatives say we need to protect Freedom of Speech and then turn around and tell people to shut up when they say things the conservatives don't want to hear.





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