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GUYS, is there a REALISTIC chance that the HOUSE WON'T PASS the deal today? | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 46766538  United States10/16/2013 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am smart, and I am praying it will.  Seriously, I want the government to start back up. I don't want to see innocent people suffer under any circumstances. I love this forum, but I worry about the souls of those here. Well you haven't seen suffering yet. Let this thing pass through, and you will see permanent suffering. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8547422 United States10/16/2013 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | suffer now or suffer later.....I would just soon get it over with, so my kids won't have to deal with it when they get older! Quoting: irked77 Exactly. I can't believe the lack of backbone and fortitude displayed by Boehner and some of these other Repugnantcans. They think this was a hard fought battle? Please. They didn't get shot at. They didn't spill their blood or watch their friends get blown up. HEROES, who were kept away from THEIR memorials and rose up against Obama and the elitists in the District of Criminals understand a hard fight. We need real leadership, not some two bit, bought and paid for shill as Speaker of the House. If this does pass because Boehner allows a vote on it and doesn't require the Hastart rule implemented, then he needs to be tarred, feathered, and run out on a rail. THAT is how things were done in this country once upon a time... when men were men and understood that fighting evil means sometimes you've got to kick ass and make your enemy scared of you. |
mehitable lives  User ID: 2331505 United States10/16/2013 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am smart, and I am praying it will. Seriously, I want the government to start back up. I don't want to see innocent people suffer under any circumstances. I love this forum, but I worry about the souls of those here. Stop worrying about our souls and start worrying about the government. It needs to collapse. It is NOT FUNCTIONAL ANYMORE. IT DOESN'T WORK. WE HAVE NO MONEY. OBAMACARE IS A DISASTER. It all needs to END. And the beginning of the end is the recognition and admission that our system is broken and cannot be fixed. It is broken beyond repair and hope because it is founded on lies and false principles. We need to go back to basics and break down the Federal government. Someone needss to stand up and start this process. At some point the carousel needs to stop so we can get off and go back to work. Right now it's spinning so fast we're going to go flying over into space. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32996801 United States10/16/2013 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: YaRight That's the senate ...the house will be the last stand. Word is the house Tea Party will vote no but enough Dems will vote yes to make it pass ERIC CANTOR! ERIC CANTOR! ERIC CANTOR! YEP! AMAZING VIDEO IT SEEMS THE GOP - My God - wait - THEY ARE ALL EVIL. OMFG! I've seen the light! They changed the rules just two weeks ago TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN! I'm sharing that video twitter and FB! Thanks! SEE! I told you guys they were all a bunch of evil fuckers...but no...LONG LIVE the repubes... THEY ARE ALL EVIL |
| mehitable lives User ID: 2331505 United States10/16/2013 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | suffer now or suffer later.....I would just soon get it over with, so my kids won't have to deal with it when they get older! Quoting: irked77 Exactly. I can't believe the lack of backbone and fortitude displayed by Boehner and some of these other Repugnantcans. They think this was a hard fought battle? Please. They didn't get shot at. They didn't spill their blood or watch their friends get blown up. HEROES, who were kept away from THEIR memorials and rose up against Obama and the elitists in the District of Criminals understand a hard fight. We need real leadership, not some two bit, bought and paid for shill as Speaker of the House. If this does pass because Boehner allows a vote on it and doesn't require the Hastart rule implemented, then he needs to be tarred, feathered, and run out on a rail. THAT is how things were done in this country once upon a time... when men were men and understood that fighting evil means sometimes you've got to kick ass and make your enemy scared of you. Aw c'mon....it was tough. They made Boner cry. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45768177 United States10/16/2013 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am smart, and I am praying it will. Seriously, I want the government to start back up. I don't want to see innocent people suffer under any circumstances. I love this forum, but I worry about the souls of those here. I don't think you understand how this works. Suffer now or suffer later. INNOCENT PEOPLE SUFFER AT THE HANDS OF THE GOVERNMENT EVERY SINGLE DAY. But that's OK because our government is doing it to "protect us" from terrorists, right? Those kids we burn to death in Pakistan might have grown up to blow us up, you know! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36044026 United States10/16/2013 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Bucephelus User ID: 47696941 United States10/16/2013 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . It'll pass, but only with a coalition of libtards and RINOs The libertarians and conservatives will stick together, but are outnumbered if Boner breaks the Hastart rule and brings the bill up without the majority of the GOP We are outnumbered ... for now. . Bucephelus |
| mehitable lives User ID: 2331505 United States10/16/2013 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BREAKING NEWS: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36044026 "We fought a good fight, we just didn't win." Boehner encourages GOP to vote for Senate plan. -------------------------------------------------  HAHAHAHAHA...all that drama for nothing. Thank God Boner wasn't there at Valley Forge or we'd all be singing God Save the Queen. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 47078040 United States10/16/2013 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Under the Articles of Confederation maybe, not under the U.S. Constitution. The U.S. Constitution explicitly states that federal authority supersedes that of the states. Quoting: Step Back 19192910 That's not entirely accurate. Federal authority only supersedes the states for the things that the Constitution explicitly grants. Everything else is reserved to the states. True, but the General Welfare clause is a caveat. It states, "The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States". General Welfare is obviously open to broad interpretation. In fact, the founders themselves couldn't agree on the authority granted to the federal government by this clause. Madison said it applies only to the powers outlined in article 1 section 8. Hamilton insisted it granted the federal government to use any resources available to it to promote the general welfare of the nation however it see fit. It is predetermined that we shall squabble over the authority of the federal government in perpetuity, in my opinion, if the founders were unable to agree upon a universal understanding of the authority as it was being written. That is an excellent point, but in practice it probably means that the states get the freedom that they can ensure through the peaceful resistance, or arms if necessary, of their people - as what else does freedom in its most basic form derive from? We can say it's from God, but I don't remember him shouldering a musket for any side. Who's "God" are you referring to? The one the founder's of this nation worshipped and served, or the GOD who created everything to begin with? This government was setup to make MAN the "highest authority", NOT the Creator. Look up the word "democracy" in a good-ole printed-on-paper dictionary. In a true "democracy" the will of carnal MAN is made the "highest authority" in determining the "way forward". (We hear and read these two words everyday in the media coming from our government and business leadership!) The Laws of GOD in America are subject to the "interpretations" and "experiences" of MAN, rather than MAN following the Laws of GOD, or the doctrine of Son of GOD, or the input of the Holy Spirit. Today, in this modern computer controlled society, laws, legislation, policies, procedures, and human relationships are molded by MAN, and his Artificial Intelligence acting in a "godlike" role, to serve the desires and passions, the "will" of carnal MAN, NOT the CREATOR OF ALL. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 48064648 United States10/16/2013 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Bucephelus User ID: 47696941 United States10/16/2013 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . The "drama" has been from fucking libtards who are like crack whores when they've been cut off from government for only 16 days! You cockbags had 83% of the government up and running and you've been nothing's but whiny ass babies! . Bucephelus |
| Bucephelus User ID: 47696941 United States10/16/2013 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . The "drama" has been from fucking libtards who are like crack whores when they've been cut off from government for only 16 days! You cockbags had 83% of the government up and running and you've been nothing's but whiny ass babies! . Bucephelus |
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| mehitable lives User ID: 2331505 United States10/16/2013 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791 That's not entirely accurate. Federal authority only supersedes the states for the things that the Constitution explicitly grants. Everything else is reserved to the states. True, but the General Welfare clause is a caveat. It states, "The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States". General Welfare is obviously open to broad interpretation. In fact, the founders themselves couldn't agree on the authority granted to the federal government by this clause. Madison said it applies only to the powers outlined in article 1 section 8. Hamilton insisted it granted the federal government to use any resources available to it to promote the general welfare of the nation however it see fit. It is predetermined that we shall squabble over the authority of the federal government in perpetuity, in my opinion, if the founders were unable to agree upon a universal understanding of the authority as it was being written. That is an excellent point, but in practice it probably means that the states get the freedom that they can ensure through the peaceful resistance, or arms if necessary, of their people - as what else does freedom in its most basic form derive from? We can say it's from God, but I don't remember him shouldering a musket for any side. Who's "God" are you referring to? The one the founder's of this nation worshipped and served, or the GOD who created everything to begin with? This government was setup to make MAN the "highest authority", NOT the Creator. Look up the word "democracy" in a good-ole printed-on-paper dictionary. In a true "democracy" the will of carnal MAN is made the "highest authority" in determining the "way forward". (We hear and read these two words everyday in the media coming from our government and business leadership!) The Laws of GOD in America are subject to the "interpretations" and "experiences" of MAN, rather than MAN following the Laws of GOD, or the doctrine of Son of GOD, or the input of the Holy Spirit. Today, in this modern computer controlled society, laws, legislation, policies, procedures, and human relationships are molded by MAN, and his Artificial Intelligence acting in a "godlike" role, to serve the desires and passions, the "will" of carnal MAN, NOT the CREATOR OF ALL. It...was...a...joke...son. Go smoke something before your head explodes. |
| judahbenhuer User ID: 39815649 United States10/16/2013 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am smart, and I am praying it will. Seriously, I want the government to start back up. I don't want to see innocent people suffer under any circumstances. I love this forum, but I worry about the souls of those here. Those innocent people you claim to care about are going to be hurt far worse in the future if this debt scheme is allowed to continue. Doing what is right sometimes hurts a lot. “My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to be always ready, no matter when it may overtake me. That is the way all men should live, and then all would be equally brave.” -Stonewall Jackson "The Bible that is falling apart usually belongs to a person who is not." - Charles Spurgeon “I apprehend no danger to our country from a foreign foe . . . Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence, I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing. Make them intelligent, and they will be vigilant; give them the means of detecting the wrong, and they will apply the remedy.” “If we abide by the principles taught in the Bible, our country will go on prospering and to prosper; but if we and our posterity neglect its instructions and authority, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us and bury all our glory in profound obscurity.” -Daniel Webster |
| BxMac User ID: 18472095 United States10/16/2013 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "We fought a good fight, we just didn't win." there's no business like show business like no business that I know..... (except for politics, banking and creative accounting, insurance practices, gmo farming, military industrial complex, american education system, the media....). you get more reality from bugs bunny. they really think/know the people are dumb |
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| Reinvigorated Being User ID: 2782120 United States10/16/2013 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something could happen today that could change everything in the blink of an eye. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1445528 A miracle is needed at this point. Without a miracle we are watching a dictatorship and the total death of the two party system. I feel very sad today. The "Two party system" is a joke to make the sheeple think that they have a say in things. I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 40922034 United States10/16/2013 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Will they...Wont they....Stay tuned to the on going saga of the DAZED and Confused.........This is better than a soap...... Quoting: catsscratchfever Time to bend over and pick up the soap this one's over and Obamacares coming for your ass... No it isn't, I'll have nothing to do with it. Throw me in jail you stinking Communists... but I'll NEVER submit to you. |
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