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Free Masons and the Constitution...

 
scaredshitless
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Free Masons and the Constitution...
Serious question here.

After watching and listening to the video of Dianne Reidy I was wondering..... If the Free Masons are bad then why is the Constitution they wrote good? Did they write it to deceive people?
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
i do not really know, i figure this theory.. back in the day without internet... any deep thinker would probably find themself a mason. I mean wouldnt most of us at least check out a group of people who claim to know the secrets of the universe if we didnt really know better? I know that not all Masons are satan worshippers. Its not revealed until a certain time certain level when you progress in the group. And that is honestly just hearsey that ive heard to be honest.

but if you watch some youtube videos it can make you fear masons and anyone ever associated with a mason lodge, but i mean its clear that mason is where the 'knowledge' was kept and it still there for deep secrets. now because of stuff i have seen on the internet and people ive talked to I know to stay far away from a lodge myself.
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
Not a bad theory but I would imagine if they were the leaders of our country they must have been pretty high ranking masons also no?
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
how do you feel deceived?

whats wrong with free masons or the constitution?
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
how do you feel deceived?

whats wrong with free masons or the constitution?
 Quoting: x0mega


I don't feel deceived I'm just skeptical of things that's all. It seems that everything I read here about the masons seems negative. Maybe I just think too much lol
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
Also there is nothing wrong with the Constitution. I was just wondering why people who don't like masons adhere to something they wrote.
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
bump for answers!
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The complexities of how this nation and its Constitution came into being are shrouded in much mystery and iniquity. I think that the "mystery of iniquity" is being revealed though! The "Freemason's", as they are known in this age, were the "builder's" of ancient "Babylon", the first real human "civilization". Ancient Babylon was destroyed in the Great Flood. The original "builder's" created two "pillars", one made of marble to survive a flood of water, and the other made of tile to survive a fire because the Ancients knew that GOD would destroy their works. Both "pillars" had the knowledge of the "sciences" inscribed upon them. The stone pillar made to survive water was discovered after the flood! From this "knowledge" the world began to rebuild itself. You'll never guess who found this pillar!
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please tell...
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
I thought this would get a little more input than this lol
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
I dont think its possible to answer that question either way without being enlightened to its / their true purpose.

For some good, for some bad.
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
yeah it's a tough question OP

I admit it is an interesting one. I'd like to know more about that period in history as well... they say the rabbit hole really has no bottom
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
yeah it's a tough question OP

I admit it is an interesting one. I'd like to know more about that period in history as well... they say the rabbit hole really has no bottom
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


I wonder if it was written with some evil agenda or if it was written with genuine good intentions. Most people when you start to talk about Constitutional rights say/view you like you are "radical" at least that's my experience for the most part.

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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
Some would argue that the founders were "good" Masons. While they had high-minded ideals of liberty and equality, in Europe, Adam Weishaupt and his Jewish Illuminsts were conspiring to infiltrate and corrupt the Freemasons. I would like to know the answer to this too. But I suspect that most modern masons either don't know, or wouldn't tell the truth.
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
The words of the constitution are not dependent on who wrote them.
Will you listen to what your senses tell you or will you let others think for you?
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
I wonder if it was written with some evil agenda or if it was written with genuine good intentions. Most people when you start to talk about Constitutional rights say/view you like you are "radical" at least that's my experience for the most part.
 Quoting: scaredshitless


The Constitution was written for the specific purpose of creating a government OF the people, which was to remain scattered and distributed to avoid any mass accumulation of power.

History is full of stories of rulers and governments abusing their power, which was not only bad for the people, but for humanity in general.

So the Consitution IS a radical departure from the tried-and-guaranteed-to-fail systems of the past...but when someone denigrates the priciples of the Constitution, rest assured that THEY are the ones with an evil agenda.
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
The words of the constitution are not dependent on who wrote them.
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No they are not but if a group that is considered evil wrote them what was their motive?

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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
The words of the constitution are not dependent on who wrote them.
 Quoting: Odd John


No they are not but if a group that is considered evil wrote them what was their motive?
 Quoting: scaredshitless


The masons have completely turned over a few times since the constitution was written. That's not a judgment either way, just saying it's totally different people in it now then were back then.
Will you listen to what your senses tell you or will you let others think for you?
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
I wonder if it was written with some evil agenda or if it was written with genuine good intentions. Most people when you start to talk about Constitutional rights say/view you like you are "radical" at least that's my experience for the most part.
 Quoting: scaredshitless


The Constitution was written for the specific purpose of creating a government OF the people, which was to remain scattered and distributed to avoid any mass accumulation of power.

History is full of stories of rulers and governments abusing their power, which was not only bad for the people, but for humanity in general.

So the Consitution IS a radical departure from the tried-and-guaranteed-to-fail systems of the past...but when someone denigrates the priciples of the Constitution, rest assured that THEY are the ones with an evil agenda.
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Good answer
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
No they are not but if a group that is considered evil wrote them what was their motive?
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If you read the Constitution, the Federalist Papers, etc., you'll see pretty clearly what the motives were. They're only evil in the eyes of those who stand to lose due to a system of self-government.

While freemasonry has certainly changed since the Enlightenment era, the enemies of the organization have remained fairly constant.
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The words of the constitution are not dependent on who wrote them.9
 Quoting: Odd John


No they are not but if a group that is considered evil wrote them what was their motive?
 Quoting: scaredshitless


To buy time until the technology was advanced enough to usher in their lord and master after this democracy or republic or whatever you call it inevitably fails 200+ years later.

People were ready to let FDR be a benevolent dictator not so long ago and not nearly as close to the expiration date.

When an engineered collapse occurs, people will gladly toss the document. They never intended it to last forever. It was created to buy time and set future generations up for the ultimate disillusionment and trap.

The masons wrote the documents and made things good on the surface for awhile -- but they are the same goat frackers who timed this pyramid scheme of an economy and our aging infrastructure to collapse around the same time.

Baby boomers are the last masonic generation. There is a reason the masons are "dying off." There is no need for them in the younger generations because the damage has been done and they are just waiting for the house of cards to collapse and crush their children and grandchildren literally and figuratively.

They got theirs and timed it all to hit the fan after they are gone or rich enough off their fat pensions, SS, and money made gaming the stock market.

When the boomer politicians start retiring it means doom is at the door.
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
Evil will always try to infiltrate and corrupt good. Perhaps it was good 200 years ago but now has been corrupted.
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
Evil will always try to infiltrate and corrupt good. Perhaps it was good 200 years ago but now has been corrupted.
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They planned it that way. It was infiltrated and corrupted from the beginning. They just slapped a thick enough coat of whitewash on it to hide the rot until now. They want everyone to decide it needs to be torn down for something "better" (NOT!) they had planned all along.

Problem. Reaction. Solution.

The ultimate bait and switch many years in the making.
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
Most of the founding fathers were not masons.


[link to www.applythebible.com]

This country was founded on Christian principles...but, the odd thing about that is, some of the founding fathers were more agnostic, they just realized that Christianity was morally sound.

The Freemasons are a direct offshoot of the illuminati, just more mystery religion inspired by lucifer. They have always existed in this country, but not until the Fed was installed did this country really become rotten.
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
Most of the founding fathers were not masons.


[link to www.applythebible.com]

This country was founded on Christian principles...but, the odd thing about that is, some of the founding fathers were more agnostic, they just realized that Christianity was morally sound.

The Freemasons are a direct offshoot of the illuminati, just more mystery religion inspired by lucifer. They have always existed in this country, but not until the Fed was installed did this country really become rotten.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38373843


Masonic disinformation. Most if not all ministers are masons, especially the Baptists.
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
The masons wrote the documents and made things good on the surface for awhile -- but they are the same goat frackers who timed this pyramid scheme of an economy and our aging infrastructure to collapse around the same time.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32062218


The gentlemen who gave us the Constitution had no hand in a 'planned, timed collapse' of the economy or of any infrastructure.

Lincoln was the first to successfully assault the Constitution, Wilson wiped his ass with it, FDR was unaware of its existence (mistakenly thinking the Communist Manifesto was Constitution), and now Obama is doing his best to erase it even from history.

But to blame the masons and their buddies who WROTE it in the first place is flat-out absurd.
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
To me there are two important things about freemasonry


1 a mason can be asked to kill one of his family members to prove himself

2 albert pike and the 3 world wars, i dont care if the constitution of the united states is 'good', i think they are all very sick people
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Re: Free Masons and the Constitution...
This country was founded on Christian principles...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38373843


That's not true. Not only were most of the founders not Christian, they thought of it as a plague best to be avoided.

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