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| Highlander_
User ID: 100661
 United States
9/2/2006 12:39 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
If the Templars are truely from the Essenes then they would know the real story, which apparently they do not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 105375
What makes you think they do not? It is the Zealots that where formed by the Essenes which in turn became the Knights of the Sword and so on and so forth, until finally the Templar's became a reality...
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| Highlander_
User ID: 100661
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9/2/2006 2:02 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
So does this mean that the original Nine Templar's had to be of the Merovingian bloodline?
By the year 1100 AD the descendants of Jesus Christ had reached prominence in Europe and also through Godfroi de Bouillon in Palestine. Even though they may have been well aware of their ancestry, they may not have been able to prove it without the documentary or other proof that remained at the Temple of Solomon. This would explain the excavations that the Knights Templar made around the area of the Temple at that time. There is good evidence, not only that the Knights Templar were sent to Jerusalem to find something, but that they did, in fact, succeed, and returned it to England. It is unclear what happened to it then, but it seems clear that the fourth Grand Master of the Order of the Temple, Bertrand de Blanchefort, concealed something near Rennes-le-Chateau.
It was here that German miners were brought to construct a hiding place. There is speculation over what this may have been ranging from Jesus’ marriage license and/or birth certificates of his children to his mummified body. Any of this may have been passed to the Cathars in the area of Languedoc near Rennes-le-Château, who were massacred mercilessly by the 30,000 of the Pope’s soldiers. One soldier had asked how they should know who to kill. The reply was "Kill them all. God will recognize his own." Treasure was hidden at the Cathar stronghold of Montségur (below) which was under siege for ten months until March 1244.
There was a royal tradition through Godfroi and Boudouin de Bouillon that is based upon the "Rock of Sion" and that in status equalled the foremost European dynasties. Both the New Testament and, later, Freemasonry, maintain that the "Rock of Sion " is the same as Jesus.
Once the Merovingians had re-established themselves in Jerusalem, they could better afford to make the facts known. This explains why the Grail romances, which were associated so closely with the Knights Templar, started appearing at this time. In time, no doubt, the full truth of the Merovingian kings would have come out, and they would have ruled extensively over Europe, replacing the Pope, and making Jerusalem the capital of the Christian world. If Jesus had been accepted as a mortal prophet, a priest-king and the descendant of the Davidic line, he would also have been accepted by the Moslems and Jews. That would obviously have changed Middle East history significantly.
However, this was not the course of history, and the Frankish kingdom of Jerusalem did not succeed. With the loss of the Holy Land in 1291, to the Muslims, the Merovingians were sidelined, and the Knights Templar rendered redundant. Since that time, the Roman Catholic Church has continued to strengthen at the expense of the truth.
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| Highlander_
User ID: 100661
United States
9/2/2006 3:14 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
This site has some interesting reading about the Knight's of the East and West...
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
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United States
9/2/2006 4:01 PM | | Highlander_
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9/3/2006 12:59 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
STILL WAITING!!!!
The last crusade of the Templars
By Ruth Gledhill
The knights want a Papal apology nearly 700 years after they were disbanded and hounded into exile
THE VATICAN is giving “serious consideration” to apologising for the persecution that led to the suppression of the Knights Templar.
The suppression, which began on Friday , October 13, 1307, gave Friday the Thirteenth its superstitious legacy.
A Templar Order in Britain that claims to be descended from the original Knights Templar has asked that the Pope should make the apology.
The Templars, based in Hertford, are hoping for an apology by 2007, the 700th anniversary of the start of the persecution, which culminated with the torture and burning at the stake of the Grand Master Jacques de Molay for heresy and the dissolution of the Order by apostolic decree in 1312.
The letter, signed by the Secretary of the Council of Chaplains on behalf of the Grand Master of the Poor Fellow Soldiers of Jesus Christ and the Temple of Solomon Grand Preceptory, with a PO box address in Hertford, formally requests an apology “for the torture and murder of our leadership”, instigated by Pope Clement V.
“We shall witness the 700th anniversary of the persecution of our order on 13th October 2007,” the letter says. “It would be just and fitting for the Vatican to acknowledge our grievance in advance of this day of mourning.”
Apologies have already been made by the Roman Catholic Church for the persecution of Galileo and for the Crusades. The Templars hope that these precedents will make their suit more likely to succeed.
Hertford Templar Tim Acheson, who is descended from the Scottish Acheson family that has established Templar links and whose family lived until recently in Bailey Hall, Hertford, said: “This letter is a serious attempt by a Templar group which traces its roots back to the medieval Order to solicit an apology from the Papacy.”
He added: “The Papacy and the Kingdom of France conspired to destroy the Order for reasons which modern historians judge to be primarily political. Their methods and motives are now universally regarded as brutal, unfair and unjustified.
“The Knights Templar officially ceased to exist in the early 1300s, but the order continued underground. It was a huge organisation and the vast majority of Templars survived the persecution, including most of their leaders, along with much of their treasure and, most importantly, their original values and traditions.”
The Hertford Mercury newspaper has reported newly discovered Templar links with Hertford, including a warren of tunnels beneath the town. At the heart of the maze of tunnels is Hertford Castle, where in 1309 four Templars from Temple Dinsley near Hitchin were imprisoned after their arrest by Edward II, who believed that they were holding a lost treasure. The treasure was never found.
When Subterranea Britannica, a group of amateur archaeologists, expressed an interest in investigating Hertford’s tunnels last month, they received anonymous threats telling them not to.
The Templars captured Jerusalem during the Crusades and were known as “keepers of the Holy Grail”, said to be the cup used at the Last Supper or as the receptacle used by Joseph of Arimathea to catch Christ’s blood as he bled on the Cross, or both.
Interest in the Templars and the Holy Grail is at an unprecedented high after the success of books such as The Da Vinci Code, by Dan Brown, and the earlier Holy Blood Holy Grail, by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln, which claimed that Jesus survived the crucifixion and settled in France.
The Knights Templar were founded by Hugh de Payens, a French knight from the Champagne area of Burgundy, and eight companions in 1118 during the reign of Baldwin II of Jerusalem, when they took a perpetual vow to defend the Christian kingdom. They were assigned quarters next to the Temple. In 1128, they took up the white habit of the Cistercians, adding a red cross. The order knights, sergeants, farmers and chaplains amassed enormous wealth.
In Rome, a Vatican spokesman said that the demand for an apology would be given “serious consideration”. However, Vatican insiders said that the Pope, 84, was under pressure from conservative cardinals to “stop saying sorry” for the errors of the past, after a series of papal apologies for the Crusades, the Inquisition, Christian anti-Semitism and the persecution of scientists and “heretics” such as Galileo.
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| Highlander_
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9/3/2006 1:36 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Philip arrested all the Templars in France, including the Grand Master, Jacques de Molay. They were accused of outrageous blasphemies, heresies, and unspeakable secret rites, and, questioned under torture, many Knights actually confessed to such things. With such confessions in hand, Philip got the Pope to order a general seizure of the Templars and their possessions everywhere. Although Clement made some attempts to distance himself from Philip, morally and physically, and although Avignon was technically in the Kingdom of Burgundy rather than of France, there was no escaping the proximity of the King and his Kingdom, unless the Pope actually went to turbulent and dangerous Italy, or threw himself on the protection of an Emperor whom Papal policy itself had helped strip of real power. Clement may have gone along with events in part to humor the King into undertaking a Crusade. If so, it was an empty expectation. Eventually de Molay was burned at the stake, abruptly on the authority of Philip and without even Papal notification, much less agreement, in what turned out to be the last year of the lives of both Philip and Clement (1314). Unbroken in spirit himself, de Molay invited the two of them to appear with him before the Throne of God. Since they both soon followed him to Judgment, one might be excused the thought that such an Invitation was tendered as mortals cannot refuse.
Highlander; According to SKT's records there was only 115 Knight Templar's murdered by Philip, so how do people claim that the Templar's were "wiped out" in France or anywhere for that matter?
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| Highlander_
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9/3/2006 1:41 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
TEMPLARS The Order of the Poor Knights of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon were for a time one of the most powerful organizations in Mediaeval Europe, particularly in France, where they owned enormous estates and were free of all feudal obligation save to the Papacy itself. They began as a small band of warriors housed in one wing of what had been the Temple in Jerusalem, who tasked themselves with the responsibility of escorting pilgrims safely through the Holy Land. As they grew, they diversified their activities, becoming in time a real military presence in the region. They were regarded by their Muslim opponents as deadly foes. Nevertheless, as their wealth and power grew, they became quarrelsome with Christians as well, and their habit of utter secrecy regarding internal affairs of the Order made them vulnerable to attack from outside, most notably the Knights of St. John and the King of France. They were suppressed at the beginning of the 14th century, ostensibly on doctrinal grounds, and most of their properties were siezed by various monarchs in Europe. They have continued to exert a fascination on subsequent generations however, and they have provided a murky yet real influence on the later development of European Freemasonry.
GRAND MASTERS of the TEMPLARS
Jerusalem Era 1118-1191
Hugh de Payens....................................1118-1136
Robert I de Craon.................................1136-1146
Everard des Barres................................1146-1149
Bernard de Tormelai...............................1149-1153
Andre de Montbard.................................1153-1156
Bertrand de Blanchefort...........................1156-1169
Philippe I de Milly...............................1169-1171
Eudes de St. Amand................................1171-1179
Arnold de Toroga..................................1179-1184
Gerard de Ridfort.................................1185-1189
vacant
Acre (Akko) Era 1191-1291
Robert II de Sable................................1191-1193
Gilbert Erail.....................................1193-1200
Philippe II de Plessiez...........................1201-1208
Guillaume I de Chartres...........................1209-1219
Pierre de Montaigu................................1219-1230
Herman de Perigord..............................1231 ?-1244
Richard de Bures..................................1245-1247
Guillaume II de Sonnac............................1247-1250
Reynald de Vichiers...............................1250-1256
Thomas Berard.....................................1256-1273
Guillaume III de Beaujeu..........................1273-1291
Cyprus era 1291-1314
Tibald de Gaudin..................................1291-1293
Jacques de Molay..................................1293-1314
Order suppressed in France and elsewhere, 1307-1314
The next portion of the list should be approached with all due caution. As the modern Templars will have it, Jacques de Molay appointed just before his execution Jean-Marc Larmenius to the Grand Mastership. Larmenius survived the suppression, and collected what scattered remnants of the Templars he could find, and established a secret society dedicated to preserving the traditions of the Templars...
Jean-Marc Larmenius de Jerusalem..................1314-1324
François-Thomas-Thibaut d'Alexandrie..............1324-1340
Arnould de Braque.................................1340-1349
Jean de Clermont..................................1349-1357
Bertrand du Guesclin..............................1357-1381
Jean (III, Count d'Armagnac 1384-1391)............1381-1391
Bernard (VII, Count d'Armagnac 1391-1418).........1391-1418
Jean (IV, Count d'Armagnac 1418-1450).............1418-1450
Jean de Croy......................................1450-1472
Regent Bernard Imbault............................1472-1478
Robert de Lenoncourt de Lorraine..................1478-1497
Galéas de Salazar.................................1497-1516
Philippe de Chabot................................1516-1544
Gaspard de Saulx et de Tavennes...................1544-1574
Henri de Montmorency..............................1574-1615
Charles de Valois.................................1615-1651
Jacques Rouxel de Grancey.........................1651-1681
Jacques-Henri de Bourbon, Duc de Duras............1681-1705
After nearly 400 years, the Templars were (depending on what one believes) either reconstituted or emerge from their secrecy. A general meeting of the Templars was called at Versailles, and Grand Master Philippe de Bourbon (later Regent of France) confirmed in March of 1705. In the following portion of the list, names in pale tint record "Regents", administrators of the order without the title of Grand Master.
Philippe de Bourbon, Duc de Orléans...............1705-1724
Louis-Auguste de Bourbon, Duc de Maine............1724-1737
Louis-Henri de Bourbon, Prince de Condé...........1737-1741
Louis-François de Bourbon, Prince de Conti........1741-1776
Louis-Hercules-Timoléon de Cossé, Duc de Brissac..1776-1792
Claude-Mathieu Radix de Chevillon.................1792-1804
Bernard-Raymond Fabré-Palaprat....................1804-1813
Charles-Antoine-Gabriel, Duc de Choiseul...............1813
Charles-Louis Le Peletier, Comte d'Aunay..........1813-1827
Bernard-Raymond Fabré-Palaprat (restored).........1827-1838
Charles-Antoine-Gabriel (restored).....................1838
Charles-Fortune-Jules Guigues Ct. de Moréton & de Chabrillan...1838-1839
Sir William Sidney Smith..........................1839-1840
Jean-Marie Raoul..................................1840-1850
Narcisse Valleray.................................1850-1866
Dr. A. G. H. Vernois..............................1866-1892
Joseph Péledan....................................1892-1894
"Secrétariat International des Templiers".........1894-1934
"Conseil de regénce"..............................1934-1935
Theodore Covias........................................1935
Emile-Clement-J. I. Vandenberg....................1935-1942
Antonio Campello Pinto de Sousa Fontes............1942-1960
Fernando Campello Pinto Pereira de Sousa Fontes...1960-
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| jagerman
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9/5/2006 12:57 AM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
So mate, where are they now? where's the headquarters at? you have got a descent timeline, but any tart can bost a bunch of names, where is the proof? (no offense intended) |
| Highlander, unlogged
User ID: 100661
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9/5/2006 11:31 AM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
So mate, where are they now? where's the headquarters at? you have got a descent timeline, but any tart can bost a bunch of names, where is the proof? (no offense intended) Quoting: jagerman
jagerman, I believe that the proof is in the timeline's. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 134159
 Japan
9/5/2006 12:00 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
and what was that movie 'Timeline' all about?
the proof |
| Highlander_
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9/5/2006 12:03 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
and what was that movie 'Timeline' all about?
the proof Quoting: Anonymous Coward 134159
To me it was all about entertainment, that is all...
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
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9/5/2006 12:07 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
that's because they are slipping it under the radar |
| Zadok
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9/5/2006 2:27 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Hi Hilander,
The Dead Sea Scrolls
are 100 percent
The Sons of Zadok
First of all they were
NOT SADDUCEES
that is a foolish mistake
many make
[Zadoki are the false priests]
[want to clear that up first]
Between them they deny any strong link between the Sadducees and the sect at Qumran. The first reason in support of this assertion is that there are only three instances in which the scrolls and the Sadducean view point converge. Secondly, Josephus describes where the three schools (Sadducee, Essene and Pharisee) stand with regard to the doctrine of fate. The Sadducean stance is furthest from the stance of acceptance as held by the Qumran sect. Thirdly, when turning to compare the Sadducean theory with that of the Essenes, the scholars note that evidence is much more forthcoming in suggestion of the Essenes with over twenty-seven instances of convergence.
Those who reject the Sadducean theory usually, but not invariably, accept the Essene theory which I tend to find more convincing too.
[link to www.st-andrews.ac.uk]
The Qumran scrolls ("Dead Sea Scrolls") were discovered in caves near Khirbat Qumran, at the northwestern edge of the Dead Sea in Jordan. The first seven manuscripts that were found detailed the daily life and rules of conduct for an ascetic and monastic sect, believed by some archaeologists to be the Essenes. There were also "commentaries" (Hebrew "pesher") on the books of Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, and Psalm 37. The rules of the community referred to the priests as "Sons of Zadok". The reference should not be taken to indicate any relationship to the Sadducees (Hebrew "Zadoki") mentioned in the New Testament; the Sadducees were an elitist sect who were culturally and religiously far removed from the Qumran community.
The commentary on Nahum is known to have been written sometime after 88 BCE, because a well-dated event is mentioned in the commentary. It is generally agreed that the scrolls were written before 68 CE, because the community was apparently destroyed or scattered in that year by elements of the Roman army. Carbon dating and paleographic analysis agree on dates between the second century BCE and the first century CE for almost all of the scrolls and fragments.
Although many archaeologists believe that the Qumran community may have been a branch of the Essenes, others consider the evidence too scanty to make a judgment. Philo Judaeus said of the Essenes "they philosophize on most things by construing them symbolically, in accordance with ancient usage." which suggests that a nonliteral reading of Scripture was common among the Jews of antiquity.
Throughout the scrolls the coming of a messiah is prophesied. It is clear from the context, however, that the "messiah" was to be an earthly king and military leader, subservient to the high priest in religious matters. The life and beliefs of the community were similar in many respects to those of John the Baptist. However, neither he nor Jesus is mentioned anywhere in the scrolls.
The importance of the Qumran scrolls is not only that they contain clues to ancient versions of the Old Testament, or that they give a description of this schismatic Jewish sect, but also that they show that variant readings and symbolic or figurative interpretations of scripture were common in biblical times.
[link to www.cesame-nm.org]
In as much as the Lord is now rebuilding the Tabernacle of David (Acts 15:16), it is not unusual that He would use Zadok as a type of those prophets that He will now raise up. Zadok, whose name means "just and righteous," remained loyal to David all of his life.
For our understanding, David was a type of Christ and Zadok was a type of those who will remain loyal to Jesus and will submit only to the spirit of Truth. Zadok was a priest, but he was also a prophet. In 2 Samuel 15:27, David identifies Zadok as a seer (prophet). A seer has the ability to see God's appointed, kingly leadership.
It was David and Zadok who established the leaders (priests) in their positions of service. (1Chronicles 24:3-5). Once again, it will be according to the pattern as established in the Word of the Lord. It is now time for the sons of Zadok to come forth, and they will be recognized by the anointing that they carry, and they will pour that anointing upon the Solomons of this day, and the glory of the Lord shall abide upon His people. Amen.
[link to ft111.com]
But the greatest glory for the Sons of Zadok comes in the last days, as shown by the vision of Ezekiel. Ezekiel is seeing the glory of that great Temple made without hands, eternal in the heavens! And in this great and final order of God, the highest realm of ministry is reserved for the Sons of Zadok.
It shall be for the priests that are sanctified OF THE SONS OF ZADOK; which have kept my charge, which went not astray when the children of Israel went astray, as the Levites went astray.
We are fixing our destiny in God. Go all the way with Him! Let nothing hinder. It will be worth it all, in that glorious New and Eternal Temple of God, as we stand before Him, and minister UNTO HIM! SONS OF ZADOK, ARISE! Go forward in the power of the Spirit! Victory is yours!
[link to awildernessvoice.com] |
| Zadok
User ID: 118426
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9/5/2006 2:45 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Zadok: NET AVS NIV NRSV NASB TEV
a son of Azor; the father of Akim; an ancestor of Jesus
son of Ahitub II; high priest Zadok I in David's time
father of Jerusha, who was the mother of King Jotham
the chief priest Zadok II; son of Meraioth II
a man who was one of David's military elite from Aaron's clan
son of Baana; one of those who helped rebuild the wall
son of Immer; one of those who helped rebuild the wall
an Israelite chief who signed the covenant to keep God's law
a Levite who served as Nehemiah's scribe
[link to net.bible.org]
{military elite}
{priest]
duh. |
| Zadok
User ID: 118426
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9/5/2006 2:47 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
not 13th tribe.
hee hee
1st tribe.
(:X |
| Anonymous Coward
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9/5/2006 2:49 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Ok Mr Essene Expert, who is the Teacher of Righteousness, and what did he say? |
| Zadok
User ID: 118426
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9/5/2006 2:50 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
there were
Temple Knights
before
The Knights Templar
Always had the
Temple Treasures
Always Will.
His Will. |
| Zadok
User ID: 118426
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9/5/2006 3:03 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Historical references to the deeper monastic Orders of the Nasorenes and Zealots, the Beni-Aumen and the Beni-Zadok, can be found in Dead Sea Scroll and Mandean literature.
"By Beni-Zadok ('sons of Zadok') is meant those elect of Israel that have been designated by name and that shall go on functioning in the last days.
Behold, their names have been specified, the families into which they are to be born, the epochs in which they are to function, the full tale of their tribulations, the length of their sojourn in exile, and the precise nature of their deeds." -
- Damascus Covenant
[link to essenes.net] |
| Zadok
User ID: 118426
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9/5/2006 3:11 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Ok Mr. RA RA
Ok Mr Essene Expert, who is the Teacher of Righteousness, and what did he say?
He said
EAT ME !!! |
| Zadok
User ID: 118426
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9/5/2006 3:36 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Zadok
Ben Zion Wacholder claims Zadok is the Teacher of Righteousness.40 He notes the importance of the name Zadok in the Qumran writings, and then contends that the Moreh Sedeq seems to be a paranomasia on the name Zadok. Wacholder says Zadok was the only one to have a tomb designated for him, something usually reserved for royalty. He is clearly set apart in the Qumran literature. In the Damascus Document there are many appelatives given him:
2:12 - anointed one, holy spirit, and seer of truth
2:13 - (his lot), his name
3:19 - sure house
6:4 - staff
6:6 - searcher of the Law and the staff
6:11 - Teacher (yoreh) of Righteousness
7:18 - star and searcher of the Law
7:19 - scepter
7:20 - prince of all the congregation, shephard and friend
7:21 - anointed one of Aaron and Israel41
These designations clearly applied to the traditional Zadok of David’s reign, which according to Wacholder, demonstrates this Zadok to be a direct descendant of the earlier Zadok of King David’s reign. The "Sons of Zadok" were the children of that Zadok who found the Law of the Lord in the form of the Temple Scroll.42 Yigael Yadin also notes the Temple Scroll was the Lost Torah which is referred to by the Qumranites as "The Book of Hagu", the mysterious book also mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls.43 "This book Hahagu is repeatedly referred to in CDC (the Damascus Document), as the authoritative code of laws in which the spiritual guides of the Damascus Sect had expert knowledge."44
The key to understanding the Qumran literature, according to Wacholder is the treatise of Ezekiel 44:15 "And the priests and the Levites and the sons of Zadok who kept charge of my sanctuary, when the sons of Israel strayed from me, shall bring to Me fat and blood." The sons of Zadok here are the chosen of Israel, called by the name, who will arise in the latter days.45 The distinction of the lineage is clear, and the sons of Zadok are assigned a special role in the temple priesthood. These sons of Zadok are, in the Pesher of the Qumran writing, the legitimate people during the Qumran time, hence uniquely called God’s Chosen.46 The phrase in the scrolls "Until the assumption of office of Zadok" infers that Zadok had discovered the Book of the Law, which allegedly had been sealed in the Ark of the Covenant since the days of Joshua. It is this Zadok who founded the Qumran Community and to whom the titles, "Lawgiver", "Searcher of the Law", "staff", and "sure house", are given.47 The single word sedeq summarizes the contrast between Jerusalem under the rule of the scoffer and the group that was led by the Teacher of Righteousness in Damascus. The members of the movement are referred to as yodcey sedeq and its leader is the Moreh or yoreh sedeq, all of which designate Zadok as the founder of the community.48 In fact, this makes the term Beney Sadoq more intelligable, since the sons of Zadok would clearly be the descendants of the Zadok of the Community, not a mystic title or religious term, but actual descendants, sons or grandsons of Zadok, the founder.49 |
| highlander, NLI
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9/5/2006 5:01 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Zadok, we need to talk, are you willing, you have my email |
| Anonymous Coward
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9/5/2006 8:12 PM | | Highlander_
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9/5/2006 8:24 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84130
Hum, now which one, Dashinvaine?
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| Amun-Ra
User ID: 133474
 United Kingdom
9/6/2006 12:27 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Hi Highlander, have you ever looked into Chatres Cathederal in France? It contains a labyrinth which when walked can elevate your conciousness to the 12th Dimensional Stargate which is at Montsegur. I believe this was the true treasure that was guarded here.
The templars set up a secure banking system to build cathederals which were linked to the Earth Ley Line Grid. Every church cathederal which they built contains an etheric vortex which ties our conciousness to the inner and outer grids of the earth. This is subsequently connected to our DNA. This is the true grail and the original templars understood this.
They created rose windows which feed life force energy into the cathederals and the people inside them.
Most modern churches and cathederals built since 1244 unwittingly followed the designs of the originals and thus helped to balance the grid energy in europe up til the present day. They are all linked with leylines and the majority of them contain vortex's which to this day still need to be balanced.
The same applies with crop circles, they simply create vortex's to re-balance the earth grid and to counter balance the negative energy created by war.
The NWO created HAARP systems pulsing low frequencies into the grid to upset the balance in their favour, that is why there aren't many crop circles in England this year.
IT IS NOW TIME HUMANS ARE SHOWN HOW TO USE THE LOVE FREQUENCIES OF THE HEART CHAKRA TO PUT LOVE BACK INTO THE GRID AND DEFEAT ALL EVIL ON THE PLANET TO HELP READY US FOR THE GOLDEN AGE OF LOVE AND LIGHT.
If you are interested I will go into great detail on this subject.
Now is the time for all truths to be revealled on this planet.
LOVE LIGHT LIFE AND TRUTH, AMUN RA. |
| Amun-Ra
User ID: 133474
United Kingdom
9/6/2006 12:33 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
The 12th Dimensional stargate IS the Templars biggest secret and I have beeen given permission by the Templar Spirits to release this information to the world.
For anyone quoting from the Old Testament. The God of the Old Testament is Lucifer himself. He played Jehovah and fooled many people. Again I can go into more detail on this if there is an interest.
Love Light Life and Truth, Amun Ra. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 103782
United States
9/6/2006 12:51 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
The 12th Dimensional stargate IS the Templars biggest secret and I have beeen given permission by the Templar Spirits to release this information to the world.
For anyone quoting from the Old Testament. The God of the Old Testament is Lucifer himself. He played Jehovah and fooled many people. Again I can go into more detail on this if there is an interest.
Love Light Life and Truth, Amun Ra. Quoting: Amun-Ra 133474
It would be just like a deceiver to say something like that. Not that you are, although you might be a flaming troll making a statement and not backing it up with any historical evidence or concurrence from theosophists, etc...
In other words, for someone who claims to be in touch with the guardians, you lack credibility. |
| Que
User ID: 9335
United States
9/6/2006 1:00 PM
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heckies naw!
"Striking Terror-Best Part of the Job."
thequickening2@hotmail.com |
| Highlander_
User ID: 100661
United States
9/6/2006 2:31 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Original Founding 9 (Nine) members of the Knights Templar:1118 AD
1. Hugh de Payens (Related to Highlander)
2. Andre de Montbard
3. Geoffroi de St. Omer (Related to Highlanders Lass)
4. Payen de Montdidier
5. Achambaud de St. Amand
6. Geoffroi Bisol
7. Gondemare,
8. Rosal
9. Godfroi
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| Zadok
User ID: 25050
United States
9/6/2006 2:42 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
The Knights Templar had a large fleet based at La Rochelle on the Atlantic coast of France. Just before the mass arrest of the Order's members on Friday 13th, October 1307, a group of 24 Knights set sail in 18 galleys. They were not seen or heard from again. The rest of the Order was captured and subjected to horrific tortures. Many were burnt at the stake. But, despite this, none of their fabulous treasure was ever recovered.
The Order's battle flag, the skull and crossbones motif, popularly known as the Jolly Roger, soon became the symbol of pirates and privateers throughout the world, around whom stories of buried treasure abound. The whereabouts of the Knights and their treasure has vexed the imagination of many generations since that fateful Friday the thirteenth.
We can only speculate about the first Templar scroll, however, there are other cases of scrolls being unearthed in the Holy Land. Eusebius, the Church historian, reports that a version of Psalms, "was found at Jericho in a jar," by Origen, the early Church Father, sometime between 211 and 217 AD2.
We also know from writers such as Al Qirqisãnî, Al Bîrûnî and Shahrastãnî that similar finds were made in the ninth and tenth centuries AD. Those scrolls were said to have belonged to a religious group called the Maghãrîya, or Cave Sect, named from the location of their writings. The finds led to the establishment of a Jewish Karaite community in Egypt, which was condemned as heretical by Orthodox Judaism. Their doctrine bore remarkable similarities to writings recently found near the Dead Sea.
The Copper Scroll is an inventory of buried treasure from the Temple of Jerusalem. The last item, number 61, reads, "In the Pit (Shîth) adjoining on the north, in a hole opening northwards, and buried at its mouth: a copy of this document, with an explanation and their measurements, and an inventory of each thing, and oth[er things]"4. The "pit" was situated beneath the great Altar of the Temple, described in detail within the Mishnah and by Josephus.
[a copy of this document is the one the Knights had]
The fortuitous discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls has enabled researchers to begin piecing together the possible fate of the Templar treasures. It soon became apparent that the key to the mystery lay in understanding the significance of the references to treasure in the Holy Scriptures and the Knights Templar's apocalyptic interpretation of Christianity.
The Jewish warrior-priests or monks who feature in the Scrolls called themselves the Sons of Zadok, after Zadok, the high priest who had anointed King Solomon, and from whom they claimed descent. They also referred to themselves as the Sons of Justice5. The monastery or fortress at Qumran was built on an eighth or seventh century BC ruin, now identified as Secacah, the Biblical City of Salt.
[HiLander, there is your Salt]
[link to www.xyz.org] |
| Highlander_
User ID: 100661
United States
9/6/2006 2:44 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Ok Mr Essene Expert, who is the Teacher of Righteousness, and what did he say? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 103782
The Essenoi
The Ancient Nazorean Essenes
This page will explain a bit more about the original Nazorean Christians who were also known as "Essenes". These Essenes were known as Nazoreans in the first century, Elkasites in the second, and Manichaeans in the third century.
AS PUBLIC AWARENESS of ancient Essenes and Nazoreans grows, and as more source documents are lovingly birthed from their hiding places in the womb of Mother Earth, more and more people are claiming to be Essenes, Nazoreans, or even Manichaeans. As more and more information about the Gnostic origins of Christianity come to light, we see more and more small groups and individuals beginning to cluster themselves around certain Essene or Nazorean ideals. We also see some souls driven by lower motivations taking advantage of this growing interest in Essenism. Many, calling themselves Essenes, have no real claim to the name other than an interest in either history or health. Others are more true to the Essene and Nazorean ideal. The ORDER of NAZOREAN ESSENES is unique in the type of Essenism and Nazoreanism that she promotes and seeks to be a full restoration of the original faith of Yeshu, Miryai, and Mani.
ESSENES
"Within the redacted remnants of early Essenoi texts, and within the relatively intact oral traditions of early Nazoreanism as preserved by the surviving gnostic Mandaean sect of Iraq, we have preserved many original Nazorean, Essene and Gnostic teachings. These, and other Gnostic traditions reflect the beliefs of earliest Christianity BEFORE the tampering that occurred in later centuries by the Catholic school of Paul." (Yesai Nasrai, O:N:E:)
Essenes is an Aramaic word that means "Healers". The early Nazoreans were also known as Essenes. This was a small sect in which Yeshu, or Jesus was born. It is a mistranslation that Jesus was born in Nazareth. The correct translation is that Jesus was born among the Nazoreans. We can discover a lot about the original historical Jesus by knowing that he was a Nazorean, for Nazoreans were very peculiar and very different from the Jewish sects of first century Palestine.
"The Nazorean branch of the ancient Essenoi Order originated in Wadi Essiah (Essene Canyon) on Mount Karmel in northern Israel and at Wadi Kharrar (Betharbara) in southern Jordan. In the ninth century BC Liliukh (known as Elijah in the Jewish Bible) and Lalaitha (known as Lilith in the Jewish writings) began the Order at these two locations near pure springs of water." (Yesai Nasrai, O:N:E:)
Eventually a Nazorean Monastery developed in both locales. It was in these Essene Nazorean Monasteries that Yeshu (known as Jesus to modern Christians) was conceived, probably born, and raised to adulthood. Pauline Christianity tried to make Jesus fulfill Jewish prophecy by saying he was born in Bethlehem to a virgin, but the facts do not support this claim.
Miryai, the mother of Nazoreanism, later converted into this Nazorean sect from Judaism. She is fablized as the Mary Magdelene of the New Testament which is a corrupted and fabricated document only loosely based on more authentic Essene texts. Understanding the Essene Nazorean sect is crucial to rediscovering the original Jesus! (The Order of Nazorean Essenes concentrates on this ancient Essene expression of truth during her Pashaltide Season of early Spring - April 12 to June 6).
The Essene Path, as one of the Seven Paths under Nazirutha, is seen as a counterbalancing influence against the more negative influence of the Seven planetary Archons. Its emphasis on fasting is seen as a useful tool to overcome the spirit of gluttony that is associated with lunar influences. Our appreciation of the Essene Gospel of Peace, a Zarathrustian like psuedopigraphic Essene text stressing fasting, is an example of this. Nazoreans are encouraged to fast every seventh lunar day, on the lunar Sabbath that precedes each quarter moon, and at the end of each lunar moon on the one or two dark moon days that precede the New Moon festival. This, and the emphasis on a pure natural diet devoid of animal products, is a major contribution of the Essene Path to the overall Nazorean Way.
There were two ancient branches of these Essenes - the northern Nazoreans (at Carmel and Bethany Beyond Jordan), and the southern Ossaeans (around the Dead Sea). These were different Essene Sects and neither one was what one would now call "Jewish" and neither one wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls. The description of the Essenes found in historical writings by Philo, Josephus, and Hyppolytus concentrate on theOssaean rather than the Nazorean Sect. However the Nazoreans are mentioned by Josephus when he writes:
"Moreover, there is another order of Essenes, who agree with the rest as to their way of living, and customs, and laws, but differ from them in the point of marriage, as thinking that by not marrying they cut off the principal part of human life, which is the prospect of succession; nay, rather, that if all men should be of the same opinion, the whole race of mankind would fail."Wars of the Jews Book II Chapter 8, 13
Thus we learn that the Ossaean customs (except for attitudes toward woman and marriage) spoken of in Philo, Josephus, and Hyppolytus also apply to the Nazoreans. Epiphanius also tells us that these two sects are "closely connected" and that both rejected the Jewish Bible. A full restoration of primitive Christianity necessitates an understanding of both and a rejection of the false assumption that Jesus was raised as, and was a reformer of, the Jewish religion.Jesus was not Jewish nor did He accept the Bible as true! Jesus was a vegetarian of the Gnostic Nazorean sect and the New Testament is not an authentic or accurate portrayal of his life or teachings!
[link to essenes.net]
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
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