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| Highlander_
User ID: 100661
 United States
8/12/2006 1:55 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
could the relation between the Templar's and the masons go back even further than the existence of the Templar's. who said the Templar's did not adopt ideas from past groups or evolve from an older order. even though we know that the original nine knights created the Knights Templar, who says at least one of these men were not masonic, or belong to the priory or even the light. Quoting: jagerman
Jagerman, it is my theory that the Templar's came into existence with the rebuilding of the Temple of Solomon. During this time the masons who where working on rebuilding the Temple were attacked and killed, where upon the King / Caliph issued a mandate that required that all mason's build with one hand and hold a sword in the other. These Masons became know as the Knights of the Sword and I believe were the first Knight's Templar's. So according to my theory the "Templar's" are almost a 2,000 year old organization that I feel exists to this day.
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| jagerman
User ID: 127198
United States
8/12/2006 5:29 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
that could be solid if you had a few more facts. but i like it. good thinking. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 100661
United States
8/12/2006 8:16 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Sorry Zadok, for not getting back to you. I have been a bit disenchanted, disillusioned and disappointed by everything lately. When real life sucks I turn to Jesus, hope for tomorrow and dream of a future world of Paradise. Then I find out that real life has been more of a nightmare than I thought, an ancient lie, a perpetual act of deceit with a twisted ironic malice. With such a grand enduring scheme of oppression, needless hurt and death, I question whether those people could actually do an about face after making this lie their life. I just want to cry! 
Was it all really necessary?  And why would Highlander still want to associate with that evil history? 
I didn't even give him a card for his 50th b-day yesterday.
I know that when I get back in touch with the Jesus in my heart that I will have hope and forgiveness but right now I just want to  and |
| goodwater nli
User ID: 130292
United States
8/12/2006 8:21 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
"Dave's Not Here"
done by the Firesign Theatre, circa early '70's.
But maybe you knew that.... |
| Ningishiddza
User ID: 124957
United States
8/13/2006 2:01 AM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Can't say that I would have liked this...
Poverty and Brotherhood
Based on the Cistercian rule, "first came the three basic monastic vows of chastity, poverty and obedience. Chastity took count of both sexes. No Templar was to kiss or touch any woman, not even his mother or sister. Even conversation with any woman was discouraged, and often forbidden. Templars wore sheepskin drawers that were never to be removed. (The Rule ordered that Templars should never bathe, so the ban of the removal of drawers was seen as support for the prohibition of sexual activity.) No Templar was to allow anyone, especially another Templar, to see his naked body. In their dormitories, lamps burned all night to keep away the darkness that might permit or encourage homosexual practices, a constant concern in all-male societies, including monasteries."
- John J. Robinson, Born in Blood Quoting: Highlander_
You ought to read Robinson as he is the only one to have it right.
He is a historian. His particular interests lie in Medieval Europe.
He has no agenda, no axe to grind, no political or religious affiliation and no concerns, other than the true and accurate reporting of events that occurred in Medieval times.
He is not a professor. He's just a guy from Kentucky that has done phenomenal research. His work is critically acclaimed by reputable organizations and universities throughout the world.
I have followed his work with research of my own at the Masonic library here in Cincinnati, one of the largest and most complete in the world.
I've also met Mr. Robinson. I'd prefer him to some of the idiots I've had as professors at university.
His thesis regarding the Knights Templar cum Free Masons has not been refuted.
It essentially is that Philip IV and the Poop-de-doo conspired to wipe out the Templars and take control of their banks and estates. The vast overwhelming majority of Templars escaped persecution and death. The Templar Navy at Marseille sailed away in the middle of the night.
Many of the Templars fled to Scotland via England where they went underground then surfaced in 1717 when it was apparent that roman catholic church no longer had the power or assets to persecute or assassinate their members.
There is no relationship between the Free Masons and the current Knights Templar, who are not chartered by the Vatican, so they are not officially the Knights Templar.
There is no relationship between the Free Masons and any group of the NWO ilk. That's all wishful thinking.
I would recommend reading the Papal Bull Humanus Genus, written by Poop Leo XIII, which is a scathing attack on the Free Masons and a scorching veiled criticism of the United States, its government, its people and its way of life. And I would remind you all that it has not been rescinded.
Americanii-s de vina futu-i in gura sa-i fut |
| Highlander_
User ID: 100661
United States
8/13/2006 9:54 AM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Can't say that I would have liked this...
Poverty and Brotherhood
Based on the Cistercian rule, "first came the three basic monastic vows of chastity, poverty and obedience. Chastity took count of both sexes. No Templar was to kiss or touch any woman, not even his mother or sister. Even conversation with any woman was discouraged, and often forbidden. Templar's wore sheepskin drawers that were never to be removed. (The Rule ordered that Templar's should never bathe, so the ban of the removal of drawers was seen as support for the prohibition of sexual activity.) No Templar was to allow anyone, especially another Templar, to see his naked body. In their dormitories, lamps burned all night to keep away the darkness that might permit or encourage homosexual practices, a constant concern in all-male societies, including monasteries."
- John J. Robinson, Born in Blood
You ought to read Robinson as he is the only one to have it right.
He is a historian. His particular interests lie in Medieval Europe.
He has no agenda, no axe to grind, no political or religious affiliation and no concerns, other than the true and accurate reporting of events that occurred in Medieval times.
He is not a professor. He's just a guy from Kentucky that has done phenomenal research. His work is critically acclaimed by reputable organizations and universities throughout the world.
I have followed his work with research of my own at the Masonic library here in Cincinnati, one of the largest and most complete in the world.
I've also met Mr. Robinson. I'd prefer him to some of the idiots I've had as professors at university.
His thesis regarding the Knights Templar cum Free Masons has not been refuted.
It essentially is that Philip IV and the Poop-de-doo conspired to wipe out the Templar's and take control of their banks and estates. The vast overwhelming majority of Templar's escaped persecution and death. The Templar Navy at Marseilles sailed away in the middle of the night.
Many of the Templar's fled to Scotland via England where they went underground then surfaced in 1717 when it was apparent that roman catholic church no longer had the power or assets to persecute or assassinate their members.
There is no relationship between the Free Masons and the current Knights Templar, who are not chartered by the Vatican, so they are not officially the Knights Templar.
There is no relationship between the Free Masons and any group of the NWO ilk. That's all wishful thinking.
I would recommend reading the Papal Bull Humanus Genus, written by Poop Leo XIII, which is a scathing attack on the Free Masons and a scorching veiled criticism of the United States, its government, its people and its way of life. And I would remind you all that it has not been rescinded. Quoting: Ningishiddza
There is much to be researched and discovered out there concerning the Templar's and their true history, including when they where actually founded.I have dedicated myself to explore this and then write a book about it, however I think that people do not really want to know the truth, they are to involved in the myths and legends surrounding the Knights and other organizations of the times...
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| Highlander_
User ID: 100661
United States
8/13/2006 10:03 AM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Henri ``the Holy'' de St Clair (1060-1110) second Baron of Roslin
The second baron of Roslin and the first who was born in Scotland was Henri ``the Holy'' de St Clair (1060-1110), who participated in the First Crusade (1096-1099) and was at the fall of Jerusalem in 1096. He was called ``the Holy'' because he was a Crusader; many of his descendants also were Crusaders.
[ link to sinclair.quarterman.org]
In 1128 the cousin of St Bernard of Clairvaux, Hugues de Payens, who served on the First Crusade with Henri St Clair, First Earl of Roslin, and is sometimes connected to Catherine St Clair, met King David I in Scotland. The Order established a seat at Balantrodoch, now Temple, Lothian on the South Esk (River Esk, Lothian). In 1189 Alan FitzWalter, the 2nd Lord High Steward of Scotland was a benefactor of The Order.
[ link to www.answers.com]
Zadok, under the link you yourself supplied there is a list of Templar's during Payens time and there is NO Sinclair or Saint Clair or any other variation there of mentioned. Personally I am not happy with all this hype concerning St. Clair's and their "PRO" Templar's stance. When the King of England went against the Knight Templar's the Sinclair's where the first to testify against them, so how anyone would or could see them as pro Templar's is beyond me, to me they where blood traitors to the order...JMHO... [link to www.answers.com]
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| templotzed
User ID: 129812
United States
8/13/2006 11:01 AM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
we will now take a refreshment break
highlander will give everybody a big slopping wet kiss of shame/osculum infame |
| Zadok
User ID: 123064
United States
8/14/2006 3:02 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Hi Highlander,
oh, my bad i copied the wrong tab
something.
You know you can google up this
stuff too.
I do this way to quick so probably
screwed up. not sure which link
for the second part i meant to post
but here is a replacement.
[link to www.clansinclair.org]
Knights Templars founded
At site of Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem. Hugh de Payens, linked to Catherine St. Clair is first Grand Master |
| Zadok
User ID: 123064
United States
8/14/2006 3:06 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
all cut and paste.
The Temple of Solomon is the link. This temple was built by the Jewish and Tyrians. Freemasonry will be discusses later. My emphasis to this point is on the Payen name, which may or may not connect to my own ancestry.
Sir Hugh de Pagen (Payens) was a French (noble) knight from Champagne. He was thought to have been a man of deep religious values, humility, and valor. Hugh was married to Catherine St. Clair, after her death he took his religious vows (Wasserman, James. The Templars and the Assassins: The Militia of Heaven.
The Templars were given lodgings in the al-Aqsa mosque near the Dome of the Rock, the original site of the Temple of Solomon. The Templars were founded in 1118, and were dedicated to the survival of both the pilgrims and Christendom in the Holy Lands. The first Templar preceptory outside the Holy Land was built on the St. Clair/Sinclair Estate in Scotland.
In 1120, Fulk V, Comte (Count) de Anjou (father of Geoffrey Plantagenet) was said to have joined the Knights Templar Order, and he was followed in 1124 by Hugues, Comte de Champayne. These knights were evidently far from poor, and there is no record of these illustrious noblemen policing the Bedouin-infested highways for the benefit of pilgrims. Perhaps they were given Order status as patrons? St Bernard was related to the Comte de Champayne and through him (also) to Hugues de Payens. Henri de St. Clair (11th century) was a crusader with Godefroi de Bouillon. His descendant (two centuries later) also a Henri, was the Commander of the Knights Templar at the Battle of Bannockburn. The Sinclairs had Viking heritage through both the Dukes of Normandy and the Jarls (Earls) of Orkney. Henry de St. Clair, son of Henri the crusader, was a Privy Councillor. His sister Richilde married into the Chaument family (also kin to Hugh de Payens ("Scotland and the Holy Grail" (295-297) in Highlander magazine).
[link to www.payne.cz] |
| Zadok
User ID: 123064
United States
8/14/2006 3:14 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
"Dave's Not Here"
done by the Firesign Theatre, circa early '70's.
But maybe you knew that....
Hee hee
I thought it was Cheech and Chong.
Very creative as it relates to the
Junk, Cops, Dave, etc.
but the key is in the bottom part.
unarmed. |
| Zadok
User ID: 123064
United States
8/14/2006 3:23 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
hi shidzoo,
There is no relationship between the Free Masons and the current Knights Templar, who are not chartered by the Vatican, so they are not officially the Knights Templar.
quote shidzoo.
rubber stamped by the vatican?
ouch!!!
None rubber stamped by the vatican are
the orginal which I will call
"offical"
Knights Templar.
The ones that ended up with the
Junk.
Rest don't matter.
And I already told you all about
the Masons. they are cool. and
are called the Masonic Knights Templar.
Masonic Knights Templar is an international philanthropic templar organization and is a part of the York Rite in Freemasonry. In the 1700s when freemasonry became public they began to incorporate symbols and traditions of the medieval Knights Templar. The original medieval Order of Knights Templar was established after the First Crusade, and existed from approximately 1118 to 1312. There is no historical evidence conclusively proving links between the medieval Knights Templar and Masonic Templarism.
In spite of Freemasonry's general disclaimer that no one Masonic organization claims a direct heritage to the medieval Knights Templar, certain degrees and orders are obviously patterned after the medieval Order. These are best described as "commemorative orders" or degrees. Nevertheless, in spite of the fraternity's official disclaimers, some Masons, non-Masons and even anti-Masons insist that certain Masonic rites or degrees originally had direct Templar influence.
[link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Zadok
User ID: 123064
United States
8/14/2006 3:28 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
oh and there is mention of the
scotrite on there too
so don't freak out!!!
Anyway,
Temple built by Jewish and Tyrians.
(not the old one!!! the one there now) |
| Zadok
User ID: 123064
United States
8/14/2006 3:34 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
jesse |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 117476
United States
8/14/2006 3:49 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Would this bloodline involve the bloodline of King Dagobert II? He is definitely involved in some way. |
| Highlander_
User ID: 100661
United States
8/14/2006 4:57 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
we will now take a refreshment break
highlander will give everybody a big slopping wet kiss of shame/osculum infame Quoting: templotzed 129812
So why is that templotzed because I call the Sinclair's blood traitors and wannabes?
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| Highlander_
User ID: 100661
United States
8/15/2006 10:32 AM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Would this bloodline involve the bloodline of King Dagobert II? He is definitely involved in some way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 117476
The Merovingian bloodline is said to be the bloodline of Mary Magdalene and of Jesus their daughter Sara and I believe their two sons...So with that bloodline it makes them involved in just about everything on earth, right?
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| 19.47
User ID: 115428
 United Kingdom
8/15/2006 10:35 AM
 | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
"If you where invited to join the Knights Templar organization, that has no affiliation with the Masons would you do so?"
NO because I do not want to go to Hell, which is where you lot are headed unless you repent. |
| Highlander_
User ID: 100661
United States
8/15/2006 10:56 AM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
"If you where invited to join the Knights Templar organization, that has no affiliation with the Masons would you do so?"
NO because I do not want to go to Hell, which is where you lot are headed unless you repent. Quoting: 19.47
Why would you think that a Knight Templar is destined to go to Hell, and please do not perpetuate the myths surrounding the Templar's...
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| Highlander_
User ID: 100661
United States
8/15/2006 11:00 AM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Zadok- Please do not be offended with me calling the Sinclair's blood traitors and wannabes I know you said you are descended from their bloodline and you should be proud of that, there where a good many Sinclair's in history but it only takes one to ruin a reputation and the one I am referring to is the ONE that falsely testified against the Scottish Templar's for his own gain, peace?
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 127099
 Japan
8/15/2006 11:48 AM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
So, where does decency come into the equation?
I mean, you all huff and puff about lines and whatnot, where is the real deal in all of this?
Or is this another run around the mulberry bush? |
| Highlander_
User ID: 100661
United States
8/15/2006 12:00 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
So, where does decency come into the equation?
I mean, you all huff and puff about lines and whatnot, where is the real deal in all of this?
Or is this another run around the mulberry bush? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 127099
Please explain what you mean about where decency comes in at?
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| Highlander_
User ID: 100661
United States
8/15/2006 12:54 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
"The [original Knights Templar] of whom little is known are believed to have been representatives of the ruling families of Champagne, Anjou, Gisors and Flanders. The leader of the Templars was Hugues de Payen, a middle-ranking noble-man in Champagne who married Catherine St Clair, the niece of his crusading partner Baron Henri St Clair of Roslin, in 1101."
There they go Marrying again. Quoting: Zadok 118426
Ah, Zadok, I was reading about this marriage and found that before Hugues de Payen became a Templar his wife Catherine had all ready died and he was in fact a widower...
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| Highlander_
User ID: 100661
United States
8/15/2006 3:04 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Well to add to this post, a question of belief. Would you bring your son or sons into the brotherhood as members of DeMolay International. This organization is set up as a precursor to becoming a Knight Templar as and adult?
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!
Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!
Dante said,
The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
[link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
| Zadok
User ID: 121553
United States
8/15/2006 3:33 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Hi Highlander,
You may say whatever you wish
and will not offend me.
In fact anyone can.
As far as "proof" of things.
Well now, when the proof ends
that is where the "stories" begin.
Every "reasearcher" generally makes
up something to fill in the blanks.
Once you have enough pieces of the
puzzle, the blanks will fill themselves
in.
Force Fit.
Anyway.
Food for thought.
As there are many theories about Rosslyn, this article will provide an overview about the Templars and the Holy Grail in relation to Rosslyn Chapel,
Sir William St. Clair, founder
Work was started on this magnificent stone chapel in 1446. It was an extraordinary effort in its time, one personally overseen by the illustrious founder himself, Sir William St Clair, the third and last St. Clair Prince of Orkney.
Knights of Santiago and the Order of the Golden Fleece
Contrary to popular belief, the founder was not a Knight Templar or a Freemason. Why? To begin with, the Order of the Temple was officially dissolved by papal bull in May of 1312. Pope Clement V declared that the charges against the Order were 'not proven'; however, the Order was by then so maligned by its controversial trial that he decided to dissolve the Order altogether. However, what is often overlooked is that the founder and principal architect of Rosslyn was a member of the Knights of Santiago and the Order of the Golden Fleece, two prestigious Orders of their day.
The Order of the Golden Fleece was established at Bruges in 1430 to uphold the Christian faith and was dedicated to the Blessed Virgin and St. Andrew. Founded by Philip the Good, Duke of Burgundy, the original Order consisted of a Grand Master (the sovereign Duke) and 23 Knights, and it has a fascinating history. The membership was later increased to 51, and was, perhaps, "in its time, the most prestigious Order of Knighthood in Europe..." (2) The Knights of Santiago were very closely related to the Order of St. James and the Sword; in fact, historians still disagree as to whether or not they were one and the same. The emblem of St James was the scallop shell, which pilgrims carried with them to deposit at their final place of pilgrimage. It is known for sure that medieval pilgrims travelled from Santiago de Compostella, in northern Spain, all the way up to Rosslyn Chapel, by way of France. After the Templar suppression of 1312, many refugee Knights joined other Orders, such as the Portuguese Order of Christ or the Knights of Santiago, so one might think of it as a 14th century 'Templar diaspora' of sorts. By the mid-1400s, a number of Scots, like Rosslyn's founder Sir William St. Clair, were likely to have made the special pilgrimage to Santiago themselves, so their membership of the Order of Santiago is not all that surprising in this light.
{The emblem of St James was the scallop shell, remember this.}
Templar-related carvings in Rosslyn Chapel
Even though Rosslyn was built more than a century after the official suppression of the Templar order, it does have a number of carvings with specific Templar-inspired themes. Some symbols are seen as the 'diagnostic signs of Templarism' and include:
Two brothers on a horse
The Agnus Dei seal (the Lamb of God)
Carvings of a five-pointed star
A stylised representation of the head of Christ, such as that shown on the Veil of Veronica or 'the Mandylion'
Symbol of a floriated cross
A dove in flight, carrying an olive branch in its beak
So the question is: does Rosslyn have these specific images? The answer is yes, either exactly as stated, or a variation on the theme. Of course, these are not the only 'Templar-inspired' symbols that are in medieval chapels or cathedrals, but are a few of the more major ones at Rosslyn.
Other possible Templar carvings at Rosslyn
There are other carvings that may likely have possible Templar connotations, such as the Skull and Crossbones, which shows up at least twice in the iconography of Rosslyn.
{remember this!!!}
[link to www.templarhistory.com]
Dr. Karen Ralls has worn many hats in recent years. She is a former Deputy Curator of the Rosslyn Chapel Museum exhibition, a postdoctoral researcher at Oxford, archivist for the UK Templar Sites Project, and the author of several books on Celtic subjects. Any of these accomplishments makes Dr. Ralls extremely qualified to write a book on the mythos of the Knights Templar. Combined, they provide a wide range of experience allowing her to craft a wonderful account of the order, past, present and future. Such a book is her most recent effort.
In the Grail Romances the question is asked, "Whom does the Grail serve?" In the case of this work, the Grail serves the reader of Dr. Karen Ralls "The Templars and the Grail." Many books written in recent years on the Knights Templar have relied solely on academic or popular sources. Dr. Ralls has utilized both resources to produce a book that is full of factual history and yet explores the many speculations concerning the Knights Templar and just what the Grail may have been.
This is truly unique among Templar publications. Academics are quick to dismiss matters of a speculative nature, and in so doing often throw the baby out with the bath water. Those who write speculative works often dismiss academic researches for fear that it will not fit their prescribed pre-conceived notions. Neither approach is the case with this book. Dr. Ralls has utilized both sources in order to present an educational, objective and thought provoking book, that offers the best of both worlds and may well be the first to truly get tot he heart of the matter concerning "The Templars and the Grail."
At the end of the day, "The Templars and the Grail" will be seen as a book as richly detailed and elegantly crafted as the many stone carvings that adorn Rosslyn Chapel herself.
If you read but one book on the Knights Templar this year, this is truly the one to read.
{I'm not selling books here, not a
book pimp, but a good read} |
| GodSend
User ID: 119647
United States
8/15/2006 3:36 PM | | Zadok
User ID: 121553
United States
8/15/2006 3:36 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
DeMolay International.
Been there done that.
Fifteen years old.
Grand Lodge full of folks
and me at the altar.
Long time ago. |
| Zadok
User ID: 121553
United States
8/15/2006 3:38 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Whew Boy!
Should get a Seed of Chunky from
Zakk
for that one!
(:X |
| Zadok
User ID: 121553
United States
8/15/2006 3:53 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
Oh and before everyone
flips out. That yale
skull and bones is a
Joke.
So is the Penn. one.
Frat boys playing with themselves
in coffin with a skull that is
not Geronimo.
All bullshit boys. |
| Highlander, unlogged
User ID: 100661
United States
8/15/2006 3:56 PM | | Re: Knights Templar's | Quote |
DeMolay International.
Been there done that.
Fifteen years old.
Grand Lodge full of folks
and me at the altar.
Long time ago. Quoting: Zadok 121553
Well I have two boys I am looking at having them join the DI, it seems like a good place for them to start their training, don't you think? |
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