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Highlander_ (OP) User ID: 254820 United States 12/08/2008 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i got the invitation from the knights templar organisation to become a member.i am a female and do not know if it is scam or not let me know. Quoting: lilly 548112Lilly, many neo-templar groups accept women into their orders just check them out on the web or email their name and I will check them out for you. Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna! Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam! Dante said, ‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis. [link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
CelticLegends User ID: 527784 United Kingdom 12/08/2008 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you where invited to join the Knights Templar organization, that has no affiliation with the Masons would you do so? Quoting: Highlander_[link to www.osmth.org] 54 pages? Woah. Hey, to get an invite, I'd have to know someone who was already a member wouldn't I? No offence but I think I'd have to say no. The idea of gaining societal or social privileges for being a member of a secret[ive] society has never sat well with me. Then again, maybe I'm just ignorant. ~ Peace It is the Thunderbolt that steers the Universe - Heraclitus |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 568332 United States 12/08/2008 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A/C the book sounds interesting, is it still in print? Quoting: Highlander_I looked at it a while back. There's a youtube video channel too. [link to www.scarletandthebeast.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 568223 United States 12/08/2008 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always find these Templar discussions fascinating as I am descendent of the original knights Templar. I think far too much is made of this. Much of it, I am sure traces to the inquisition, in which the Templars were accused of heresy and many false accusations made against them. Recently the Masons acquired a copy of the original inquisition notes found in the Vatican - I think only about 800 copies were released worldwide. The pope had actually absolved the Templars of heresy but the local French government was hell bent on acquiring their wealth and property so the papal absolution was conveniently ignored. The inquisition was more about appropriating wealth rather than rooting out heresy. Thus the Templars became a target. The way it worked for ordinary citizens was that a papal envoy would arrive in town and preach a sermon against heresy and invite the local residents to turn in anyone they thought might a heretic. The names on the list were then brought in for torture to admit the heresy, which normally occured during one of the many degrees of torture which included the modern practice of waterboarding. The heretic could then be conveniently burned at the stake and their property confiscated. The Church makes the claim that they never executed anyone for heresy. True in a sense as the torture and burning at the stake were performed by the local executioner and only the questions and interpretation were up to the clergy. Whole groups such as the Templars and Cathars were targetted. I know an original Cathar desccendent as well. This was primarily due to the Vatican's inability to defeat them in battle so the inquistion served to accomplish the purpose but devolved into a moneymaking power scam. I can see the current regime embarked on the same path only now the unfortunate souls are branded as terrorists rather than heretics. I can say that I am a Christian engaged in battle against the illuminati and other demonic forces in battles that take place in the spiritual realm. This is not however, because I am a Templar, as I am probably the only Templar in the group. We have taken on the illuminati, the control demons of Islam, and we are now preparing to take on the church system of man as instructed by Jesus through our leader through prayer alone. Its not so easy to pray as one would think. For Satan hates prayer as it is the only weapon that can defeat him. |
Highlander_ (OP) User ID: 254820 United States 12/09/2008 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always find these Templar discussions fascinating as I am descendent of the original knights Templar. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 568223I think far too much is made of this. Much of it, I am sure traces to the inquisition, in which the Templars were accused of heresy and many false accusations made against them. Recently the Masons acquired a copy of the original inquisition notes found in the Vatican - I think only about 800 copies were released worldwide. The pope had actually absolved the Templars of heresy but the local French government was hell bent on acquiring their wealth and property so the papal absolution was conveniently ignored. The inquisition was more about appropriating wealth rather than rooting out heresy. Thus the Templars became a target. The way it worked for ordinary citizens was that a papal envoy would arrive in town and preach a sermon against heresy and invite the local residents to turn in anyone they thought might a heretic. The names on the list were then brought in for torture to admit the heresy, which normally occured during one of the many degrees of torture which included the modern practice of waterboarding. The heretic could then be conveniently burned at the stake and their property confiscated. The Church makes the claim that they never executed anyone for heresy. True in a sense as the torture and burning at the stake were performed by the local executioner and only the questions and interpretation were up to the clergy. Whole groups such as the Templars and Cathars were targetted. I know an original Cathar desccendent as well. This was primarily due to the Vatican's inability to defeat them in battle so the inquistion served to accomplish the purpose but devolved into a moneymaking power scam. I can see the current regime embarked on the same path only now the unfortunate souls are branded as terrorists rather than heretics. I can say that I am a Christian engaged in battle against the illuminati and other demonic forces in battles that take place in the spiritual realm. This is not however, because I am a Templar, as I am probably the only Templar in the group. We have taken on the illuminati, the control demons of Islam, and we are now preparing to take on the church system of man as instructed by Jesus through our leader through prayer alone. Its not so easy to pray as one would think. For Satan hates prayer as it is the only weapon that can defeat him. The only Templar on the board? I doubt this very much... Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna! Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam! Dante said, ‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis. [link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
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Highlander_ (OP) User ID: 254820 United States 12/23/2008 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 55^ 51'24 north Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5769223^ 09'51 west OK, so you got me out in the middle of the North Sea off the coast of Belgium,or Scotland what now? Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna! Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam! Dante said, ‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis. [link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
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Highlander_ (OP) User ID: 254820 United States 12/24/2008 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 55^ 51'24 north Quoting: 4by23^ 09'51 west OK, so you got me out in the water off the coast of Belgium, what now? Try Roslin! ;-} :glssosctch: How did you come up with Roslyn everytime I ran the coordinates it came up with the middle of the North Sea? Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna! Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam! Dante said, ‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis. [link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
Restart User ID: 578688 Sweden 12/24/2008 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . The only way to KNOW is to find out. Hearsay, rumours and eventual political reasons to miscredit anything with power - alot has gone wrong in mankinds 'his'story but things change daily - you have gain insight that makes you different from yesterday. ALOT of the ancient mysteries have been lost, some for a reason (see above) - and shouldnt be 'taken lightly' like throwing pearls to swines. Symbolism can easily loose its meaning, or be ABUSED, altered, misunderstood. I see jealosy and ego, pride, prestige all around me, servers of self... As soon as anyone in here or anywhere else, can claim they know all the truth, and are free from guilt - they might be able to 'guide' others towards enlightenment. Many of those 'on the inside' wont bother to 'debunk' rumours, it serves its purpose too... to keep certain elements out. Just look on your own house/space - would you open the Gate to the masses, or would you choose who you gave certain access to Your Sacred Space? I think it is important to question, but think about this - everytime you point a finger at someone/something 3 fingers point right BACK AT YOU. . . . "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell Evidence of How Israel was Provoking to Start the 6-Day War (videos they pulled after I posted this UN-testimony) Part 1 [link to www.youtube.com] Part 2 [link to www.youtube.com] "IT IS THE ABSOLUTE RESPONSIBILITY OF EVERYBODY IN UNIFORM TO DISOBEY AN ORDER THAT IS EITHER ILLEGAL OR IMMORAL" - General Peter Pace, chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff addressing the National Press Club, Feb 17/06 "Command Override" . Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people.” -Eleanor Roosevelt |
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FitzAlan User ID: 583329 United States 12/31/2008 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am one who wonders what the world is coming to. Right now, in my hometown, I am in a battle with what seems like half the population. In the local paper, there has been a constant barrage of late concerning a bill introduced into the state legislature to prevent bullying of specific groups. Among these groups are homosexuals. While I do not believe in harrasment of anyone, and I do believe that Christ has instructed us to love others, in the Bible I know, it does not instruct us to grant special rights those who are an abomination to the Lord. Where did the sudden outpouring of sympathy come from? The same newspaper has a story reporting how a pregnant, unmarried 19 year old, who was wanted by the police for drug possesion, shot a police officer during a raid on her home where there was FOUR POUNDS of marijuana ready for sale. People are saying the police were not justified in the raid or the arrest of the woman. Last time I checked, possesion of marijuana was illegal, and four pounds of it constitutes a felony. Adding on to this is the fact that she was pregnant, and showed no regard for the safety of her unborn child, and also fired a gun at a law enforcement officer...who showed restraint by not shooting back. Her parents were in the home, they knew what was going on, and they allowed this to go on. Why are people sympathetic to the woman and persecuting the police for abiding by the law? Yet another story concerned the new law requiring verification of eligibility for employment before hiring. This is to prevent illegal aliens from obtaining jobs where government money might be involved. My opinion is that the illegal aliens knowingly broke the law when they came here, so therefore, they would be not be above committing other illegal acts. I'm being blasted for not supporting the plight of these illegal aliens. I think part of the problem is the way the schools have embraced what I call the 'soccer mentality'. This is when the adults tell the children 'everyone's a winner!' It has entered the classroom with the 'no child left behind' act. Children who cannot perform at grade level are shoved on to graduation without the skills needed for survival in today's world. Those who do learn are punished because everyone expects them to be at the same level as their classmates - below average. Every situation in life produces those who come out on top - the winners. At some point, everyone loses. We are no longer preparing our children to lose. How can we expect them to be ready for losing a job, the breakup of a relationship, the death of a parent or friend, or any other type of trauma if we tell them 'everyone wins?' We need to teach our children the difference between good and evil, right and wrong, legal and illegal. We must also teach them the fact that right is not always legal, and wrong not always illegal. Good is right, evil is wrong. We must teach them to think. We must teach them to stand up for what is right. We must also teach them to respect the law, even if it is wrong. One way I am trying to do this with my youngest is by football - not soccer, but good old fashioned American football. Yes, it is a violent game, but honestly, isn't there worse violence taking place all across the world every day? She is learning that there are rules that must be followed, or else there are consequences. Those penalties can mean the difference betweening winning a game, or being a loser. She also knows that sometimes, there are illegal plays on the field when the officials don't throw a flag. She celebrates when her team wins, gets dissapointed when her team loses (which is the normal thing for the past few years), and congratulates our opponent's fans when they win - as long as there was no obvious cheating. She studies the rules so she can know more about the game, studies the players to find out who they are. She's developed a healthy sense of competition. She has applied this to her life - she is one of the smartest students in her class, but easily accepts the fact that some kids are smarter, and this drives her to try harder. Of course, she has lapses where she gets upset, or shows immaturity, but after all, she is only eight years old. We, as adults, must stand up for what is right, and denounce what is wrong. We cannot waver, we cannot accept less than what is right. We must let our voices be heard, and stand up for those who cannot speak. |
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FitzAlan User ID: 604807 United States 01/31/2009 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I recently watched, for the very first time, the "DaVinci Code". I could have fertilized my lawn with that movie. Last week, NBC had a two night movie, "The Last Templar". I learned something from this movie - Jerusalem used to be on the coast of the Mediterranean Sea in the 13th Century! Either that, or they really messed that one up, too! And then, you have the "Templar Treasures" (a.k.a. 'Holy Grail'). So much speculation, so little fact. Then, of course, we also have the "National Treasure" movie. More guesses, few facts. Why is there so little truth to these tales? They are only designed to make money - and usually, fantasy is more profitable than fact. Another reason, most people have no clue what is true and what is not. If you were to ask the 'research team' from any of these movies, they would not be able to tell you the truth behind Philip the Fair, Pope Boniface, and Friday the 13th. Nor could they tell you about the Mongols and the return of Jerusalem to the Franks in 1300 (I believe that is the correct year). Nor could any of them explain the Templar connection to Cyprus. Books are a little different. Some are pure fiction, some are part truth and part speculation, very few are well-researched with little room for guesswork. Right now, I am reading on of the few books I have found which seems to be well-researched. It is called simply "The Templars" by Piers Paul Reid. It doesn't just cover the period of 1109-1307, it begins far earlier in Mesopotamia, with Abraham. It explains the history of the Temple, the complex political maneuvering that took place during the early church, continuing all the way into the middle ages. It explains the social staus of the knights, sergeants, and others involved in the Crusades, and also the stance of the Church on matters of the day. Don't believe everything you hear about the Templar Knights. Very few times will someone be honest enough to explain the truth behind the military orders of the Church. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 602922 United States 01/31/2009 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Am I the only one who has seen the abundance of Templar related movies, books, etc., on TV, at the theaters, and on the bookshelves lately? How can one know what is a true representation of fact, and which are just made up stories targeting the desire for knowledge just to make a buck? Quoting: FitzAlan 604807I recently watched, for the very first time, the "DaVinci Code". I could have fertilized my lawn with that movie. Last week, NBC had a two night movie, "The Last Templar". I learned something from this movie - Jerusalem used to be on the coast of the Mediterranean Sea in the 13th Century! Either that, or they really messed that one up, too! And then, you have the "Templar Treasures" (a.k.a. 'Holy Grail'). So much speculation, so little fact. Then, of course, we also have the "National Treasure" movie. More guesses, few facts. Why is there so little truth to these tales? They are only designed to make money - and usually, fantasy is more profitable than fact. Another reason, most people have no clue what is true and what is not. If you were to ask the 'research team' from any of these movies, they would not be able to tell you the truth behind Philip the Fair, Pope Boniface, and Friday the 13th. Nor could they tell you about the Mongols and the return of Jerusalem to the Franks in 1300 (I believe that is the correct year). Nor could any of them explain the Templar connection to Cyprus. Books are a little different. Some are pure fiction, some are part truth and part speculation, very few are well-researched with little room for guesswork. Right now, I am reading on of the few books I have found which seems to be well-researched. It is called simply "The Templars" by Piers Paul Reid. It doesn't just cover the period of 1109-1307, it begins far earlier in Mesopotamia, with Abraham. It explains the history of the Temple, the complex political maneuvering that took place during the early church, continuing all the way into the middle ages. It explains the social staus of the knights, sergeants, and others involved in the Crusades, and also the stance of the Church on matters of the day. Don't believe everything you hear about the Templar Knights. Very few times will someone be honest enough to explain the truth behind the military orders of the Church. I am a Templar as my father, grandfather and great grandfather and their ancestors were before them. Perhaps the simplest explanation is that we play the role of the Jedi Knights in Star Wars in real life. The Star Wars movies are reality based and tell the story of the great plot about to overtake humanity. Thats why TPTB put out so much propaganda against us and why there is such fascination with our order on those few in the general populace who know or suspect what is really happening. The recent movie The Last Templar was so outrageously blatant in its lies and smears against our order. This has been going on for a long time. I recall reading a book twenty years ago saying Templars kiss cats. My grandfather was actually a masonic Knights Templar which is an option for Christian masons and my father headed the local DeMolay. But those are mere shadows of our order. |
KADEN User ID: 628626 United Kingdom 03/05/2009 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF YOU REALLY WANT TO BE A KNIGHT AND DEFEND CHRISTS CHURCH, YOU SHOULD START AT HOME BY PREPARING TO DEFEND YOUR HOME & PROTECTING YOUR FAMILY. IF YOU LIVE IN THE UK YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED A GUN, SO BUY YOURSELF A NICE SHARP LONG-SWORD AND KEEP IT SOMEWHERE IN YOUR HOUSE. THEN WHEN THE HOLY WAR STARTS AGAIN AS IT DID 500 YEARS AGO AND MUSLIMS ARE KICKING DOWN OUR DOORS AFTER BURNING DOWN OUR CHURCHES TO BUILD MORE MOSQUES, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR HEADS AND PROTECT NOT ONLY YOURSELF BUT DEFEND THE CROSS OF JESUS CHRIST BY ENSURING HIS WORD CONTINUES TO BE TAUGHT THROUGH CHRISTIANITY. IT DOESNT MATTER IF YOU KNOW "A NICE MUSLIM PERSON" DOWN THE STREET WHO SELLS YOU CURRIES ON A FRIDAY NIGHT, THE MUSLIMS SOLE OBJECTIVE IN THE DOCTRINES OF ISLAM IS TO CREATE A MUSLIM WORLD ABSOLUTE NO MATTER WHAT THE COST. THIS IS THEIR INTENTION, THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THEIR GOAL AND ALWAYS WILL BE THEIR GOAL. JOIN WWW.CHRISTIANORDEROFTHEDRAGON.COM AND NOT SOME DAFT BULLSH*T SITE WHICH JUST TRIES TO SELL YOU GAUDY JEWELLERY & STUFF CASHING IN & PIS*ING ON THE GRAVES OF THE NAME OF THE REAL KNIGHTS TEMPLAR, THE VERY WARRIORS WHICH SAVED CHRISTIANITY 500 YEARS AGO AD ENABLED YOU TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS EACH YEAR. AND YES, ONE DAY YOU WILL BE IN A REAL CRSADE AND BATTLE, WHETHER OR NOT YOURE READY WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR DOORSTEP IS ENTIRELY UP TO YOU. I ENVISAGE THIS POST WILL BE REMOVED, YET STRANGELY ENOUGH ITS OK FOR THEM TO PREACH ABOUT BEHEADING ANYONE WHO ISNT A MUSLIM ON THE VERY STREETS OF BRITAIN. KIND OF IRONIC THAT DONT YOU THINK ? ENOCH POWELL PREDICTED RIVERS OF BLOOD IN THE UK, HE IS RIGHT ! PREPARE YOURSELF FOR THE HOLY WAR AND BELIEVE IN CHRIST AND YOU ARE ALREADY A KNIGHT IN YOUR HEART AND IN YOUR VERY BEING. |
Highlander_ (OP) User ID: 254820 United States 03/16/2009 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF YOU REALLY WANT TO BE A KNIGHT AND DEFEND CHRISTS CHURCH, YOU SHOULD START AT HOME BY PREPARING TO DEFEND YOUR HOME & PROTECTING YOUR FAMILY. IF YOU LIVE IN THE UK YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED A GUN, SO BUY YOURSELF A NICE SHARP LONG-SWORD AND KEEP IT SOMEWHERE IN YOUR HOUSE. THEN WHEN THE HOLY WAR STARTS AGAIN AS IT DID 500 YEARS AGO AND MUSLIMS ARE KICKING DOWN OUR DOORS AFTER BURNING DOWN OUR CHURCHES TO BUILD MORE MOSQUES, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR HEADS AND PROTECT NOT ONLY YOURSELF BUT DEFEND THE CROSS OF JESUS CHRIST BY ENSURING HIS WORD CONTINUES TO BE TAUGHT THROUGH CHRISTIANITY. IT DOESNT MATTER IF YOU KNOW "A NICE MUSLIM PERSON" DOWN THE STREET WHO SELLS YOU CURRIES ON A FRIDAY NIGHT, THE MUSLIMS SOLE OBJECTIVE IN THE DOCTRINES OF ISLAM IS TO CREATE A MUSLIM WORLD ABSOLUTE NO MATTER WHAT THE COST. THIS IS THEIR INTENTION, THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THEIR GOAL AND ALWAYS WILL BE THEIR GOAL. Quoting: KADEN 628626JOIN WWW.CHRISTIANORDEROFTHEDRAGON.COM AND NOT SOME DAFT BULLSH*T SITE WHICH JUST TRIES TO SELL YOU GAUDY JEWELLERY & STUFF CASHING IN & PIS*ING ON THE GRAVES OF THE NAME OF THE REAL KNIGHTS TEMPLAR, THE VERY WARRIORS WHICH SAVED CHRISTIANITY 500 YEARS AGO AD ENABLED YOU TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS EACH YEAR. AND YES, ONE DAY YOU WILL BE IN A REAL CRSADE AND BATTLE, WHETHER OR NOT YOURE READY WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR DOORSTEP IS ENTIRELY UP TO YOU. I ENVISAGE THIS POST WILL BE REMOVED, YET STRANGELY ENOUGH ITS OK FOR THEM TO PREACH ABOUT BEHEADING ANYONE WHO ISNT A MUSLIM ON THE VERY STREETS OF BRITAIN. KIND OF IRONIC THAT DONT YOU THINK ? ENOCH POWELL PREDICTED RIVERS OF BLOOD IN THE UK, HE IS RIGHT ! PREPARE YOURSELF FOR THE HOLY WAR AND BELIEVE IN CHRIST AND YOU ARE ALREADY A KNIGHT IN YOUR HEART AND IN YOUR VERY BEING. WWW.CHRISTIANORDEROFTHEDRAGON.COM and then it refers you to facebook and there you get solicited to buy logos and website design, just like the ones you where refering to as being a "joke" keep looking.... Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna! Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam! Dante said, ‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis. [link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
Highlander_ (OP) User ID: 254820 United States 03/17/2009 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [youtube] [link to www.youtube.com] Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna! Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam! Dante said, ‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis. [link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
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Highlander_ (OP) User ID: 254820 United States 03/18/2009 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Templar's are all closet queens that bugger each other. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 578829You should know, right? Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna! Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam! Dante said, ‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis. [link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17625 United States 04/06/2009 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turin shroud 'older than thought' Quoting: Highlander_The Shroud of Turin is much older than suggested by radiocarbon dating carried out in the 1980s, according to a new study in a peer-reviewed journal. A research paper published in Thermochimica Acta suggests the shroud is between 1,300 and 3,000 years old. The author dismisses 1988 carbon-14 dating tests which concluded that the linen sheet was a medieval fake. The shroud, which bears the faint image of a blood-covered man, is believed by some to be Christ's burial cloth. {yawn} [link to news.bbc.co.uk] Hi HiLander, The lowly seamstress knows the Truth !!! {this shit cracks me up} It was a woman, however, one who relied not on technology but a traditional woman's craft, who called these results into question. She was a seamstress brought in to mend some of the damaged spots on the cloth. In making her repairs, she discovered something no one had noticed previously. The shroud was sewn together with a particular type of stitching which was also found at Massada, but which is unknown outside a time frame of a few decades around the time of Jesus' death. Most important, it is never found in stitching from the middle ages. [link to kundalinisplendor.blogspot.com] {Yes it is Real} (:X Now this is what I like to see, more info supporting the truth of the shroud... |
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dschis User ID: 658956 United States 05/12/2009 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always find these Templar discussions fascinating as I am descendent of the original knights Templar. Quoting: Highlander_I think far too much is made of this. Much of it, I am sure traces to the inquisition, in which the Templars were accused of heresy and many false accusations made against them. Recently the Masons acquired a copy of the original inquisition notes found in the Vatican - I think only about 800 copies were released worldwide. The pope had actually absolved the Templars of heresy but the local French government was hell bent on acquiring their wealth and property so the papal absolution was conveniently ignored. The inquisition was more about appropriating wealth rather than rooting out heresy. Thus the Templars became a target. The way it worked for ordinary citizens was that a papal envoy would arrive in town and preach a sermon against heresy and invite the local residents to turn in anyone they thought might a heretic. The names on the list were then brought in for torture to admit the heresy, which normally occured during one of the many degrees of torture which included the modern practice of waterboarding. The heretic could then be conveniently burned at the stake and their property confiscated. The Church makes the claim that they never executed anyone for heresy. True in a sense as the torture and burning at the stake were performed by the local executioner and only the questions and interpretation were up to the clergy. Whole groups such as the Templars and Cathars were targetted. I know an original Cathar desccendent as well. This was primarily due to the Vatican's inability to defeat them in battle so the inquistion served to accomplish the purpose but devolved into a moneymaking power scam. I can see the current regime embarked on the same path only now the unfortunate souls are branded as terrorists rather than heretics. I can say that I am a Christian engaged in battle against the illuminati and other demonic forces in battles that take place in the spiritual realm. This is not however, because I am a Templar, as I am probably the only Templar in the group. We have taken on the illuminati, the control demons of Islam, and we are now preparing to take on the church system of man as instructed by Jesus through our leader through prayer alone. Its not so easy to pray as one would think. For Satan hates prayer as it is the only weapon that can defeat him. The only Templar on the board? I doubt this very much... Just curious. Which James were you guys speaking of. I'm a descendant of James V (I think) through my grandmother. I will assist each individual in their efforts to become a highly motivated, well disciplined, physically and mentally fit soldier, capable of defeating any enemy on today's modern battlefield. I will instill pride in all I train. Pride in self, in the Army, and in Country. I will insist that each soldier meets and maintains the Army standards of military bearing and courtesy, consistent with the highest traditions of the U.S. Army. I will lead by example, never requiring a soldier to attempt any task I would not do myself. But first, last, and always, I am an American Soldier. Sworn to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. |
Highlander_ (OP) User ID: 254820 United States 05/17/2009 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just curious. Which James were you guys speaking of. I'm a descendant of James V (I think) through my grandmother. Quoting: dschisThere are only 2 James on this thread spoken about one is me and the other is Jacques de Molay or in english "James of Moley". Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna! Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam! Dante said, ‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis. [link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
Highlander_ (OP) User ID: 254820 United States 05/31/2009 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A couple of friends of mine and myself and my wife are planning on going to Turin, Italy at the end of April next year to see the Shroud of Turin on display, is anyone from GLP planning on going also, and if so do you want to get together over there? Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna! Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam! Dante said, ‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis. [link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
Highlander_ (OP) User ID: 254820 United States 06/08/2009 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hierarchy of the World: or the way it has always been? Do you really think that the President of the United States of America actually runs our country, or that the Prime Minister of England or any other President, PM, King or Despot actually runs their country? I certainly do not think so; there is too much evidence that covertly shows that they do not. If they did run their own respective countries then why do they and others answer to high powered groups like the Bilderberg group, and the Council of Foreign Relations, the Club of Rome, and others. A long time ago there was a group of people called the Bavarian Illuminati, while it supposedly did not last long but the name has. Then there are the Free Masons and group of men and now women all 6 million of them the Masons who helped form the United States of America, England, Scotland and France. George Washington, F.D.R., Ford, and others who did not reveal their alliance to the Masons. Then there are the Warrior Monks of the Middle Ages, the Knights Templar, the Teutonic Knights, the Knights Hospitallar, and others not so well known to the public. However even though these group existed hundreds of years ago they were not even close to being the first of the secretive groups working behind the scenes in government strategies and power struggles since time immortal. Since Cain murdered his brother Able there has been jealousy and power struggles between brothers, sisters, and the power mongers of the then known world. Abraham the Father of the Jewish religion and Islam was not a simple farmer and goat herder; he also was a warrior who attacked anyone who he deemed a threat to him or anyone he protected. 400 years later Moses came along and with help from his brother Aaron formed the “Warriors of God” now called the Knights Templar. Most people believe the Knights Templar, came into existence in 1118 AD, a date I have not conformed to in years. I believe that the point in time that the Templars where originally formed was in the year 1450BC by Moses during the Exodus and with the construction of the Ark of the Covenant. When you look at the Templars and what was accomplished in secret during their 9 years of holding up in the stables of Solomon and the recorded fact that no new members were added during this time it makes you wonder how they ever expected to protect those Christians traveling the dangerous roads of the Holy Lands. I do not believe they did, oh they may have attacked some smaller Saracen raiding parties just for show but they were there to dig up certain relics buried there by the much older Templar knights of 68-70AD and the sacking and burning of the second temple. When the Grand Master of the Inner circle, Flavious Josephus ordered the Grand Master of the Temple Knights to defend the 2nd Temple at all costs a man called John of Gischala the leader of the Zealots. Next in line of protectors of the Temple was Simon Bar Kochba and like all Grand Masters of the Templar Knights little is known about him outside of his select people. Years after, in the Bar Kochba (in 132 AD) Revolt there stood I believe more Templars dedicated not only to protecting the relics of the past but of Christ also and with the additional duty sworn to protect Jerusalem as always with Bar Kochba as the Templar Grand Master. Bar Kochba and his “Knights” almost succeeded in defeating the most powerful Army of the time, the soldiers of Rome and yet just like their brethrens of the future, they failed do to their pride and arrogance in Deut. 8:17 it states that Bar Kochba and his followers adopted the attitude of; "By my strength and my valor I did this." and this cost them the war and for many their very lives not to mention they failed in their assigned duty to protect Jerusalem at all costs. The City of Jerusalem fell on the Jewish calendar date of the 9th of Av in the year 135 AD, the same date as both the 1st and the 2nd Temple of Solomon fell… The Templars of, James the Brother and of Saint Peter the Rock: At this point I am probably going to infuriate many of the modern day Templar knights when I say that the original Templars were not Christians like the Christians of today but in fact were Jewish in their beliefs and only Christians as in Judeo – Christians, with no beliefs that Christ was born by any means other that by sex of a married man and a woman and that Jesus was not divine, in other words they were Nazarenes just like Jesus and his brother James After the crucifixion of his brother Jesus James assumed the position of head of the “Council of Twelve” which consisted of 12 direct members and made up of the original living apostles of Christ and select others (Mary Magdalene) to total 12 with Christ/James as the 13th and leader. This position of “Leader” of the Council or the 13th member is one of special note I feel as the number 13 has for centuries be considered a “bad” number, it is considered to have originated with the fall of the Templars in the 14th century on October 13, 1307, but I think it really began with the 13th member of the “Council of Twelve” and the disturbing fact that the 13th member according to available records has never died a natural death, in fact anything but. Christ was crucified; James was stoned and thrown from the portal 70 feet to his death and Peter was crucified upside down on the hills in Rome. It is with this group, the Council of 12, that I believe that the Templar Knights received their “official” calling and the duties we once again assigned to them and the modern day Knights also. As we move into the “Dark Ages” we find little information about who and what went on during this period, we had the Council of Nicaea occur in order to assemble a Bible that supported what the new Roman Catholic Church supported in their beliefs and throw out that which they found to be unfounded. (Big mistake). At this point in history the RCC was in the process of becoming the world power house it would become in the near future leading up to the Holy Crusades, it is here that all the secret societies began their insidious sub-rosa power dealings. During the Dark ages there were many small fragmented kingdoms through-out Europe, and then came Charles Martel and his extraordinary leadership and founder of the Carolingian Empire and which replaced the Merovingian dynasty by Martels son Pippin, all agreed to and arranged by the RCC as the Merovingian’s kept the RCC under strict control and the leaders of the RCC wanted complete autonomy in order to expand their then limited powers. With the agreement to Pippin and his execution of the Merovingian’s the RCC was now able to grow into the powerhouse they had envisioned for centuries. Throughout Europe and the British Isles there were many changes occurring, in Scotland or should I say Alba, Alpin became the first King of the united lands of the Picts and the Scoti from the lands of Dalriada to become Scotland. So why have I included a lesson in ancient history, it is simply to show you that none of this could have happened without secretive groups being behind all of these occurrences making it happen. In the year 1717 in jolly olde England the Free and Accepted Masons revealed themselves to the world, supposedly for the first time, and yet when they made their “first” appearance they were already a fully formed organization with membership spread out the British Isles and Europe and not long after the United States to be. Not long after the Masons came into the public eye, Adam Weishaupt formed the Bavarian Illuminati with the knowledge and support of government officials, at least for awhile, and at least in the publics eye, but with members like Krupp, Rothschild, and other powerful and influential families like these, do you really think they simply went away when the governments withdrew their public support for the Illuminati, especially when it was continuance from the Merovingian’s and later the Carolingian’s of Europe who were help to be established by the Roman Catholic Church because the Merovingian’s grew to powerful and went against the RCC. Out of these secretive societies and even more secretive Religious organization came the Warrior/Monks, the Spanish Inquisition, the founding of the United States of America, the two official World Wars, the Bilderbergers, the Tri-Lateral Commission, the Club of Rome and more, and then there are the many small wars needed by the ruling elite of the one world secret government and its influential members. Wars planned by the Elite in order to drive prices the way they needed them to be, prices such as oil, crops, finance, both in the private and public sectors, and the Real Estate markets. So now that you know that the world has been run by small secretive groups since the beginning of recorded time and probably before, who and what do you think they fear beyond all others factors? They fear us, the citizens of the world, while they may control our lives to some extent especially through finance supplies and they have a few million soldiers available to support and enforce their whims they still fear us beyond all and with good reason, while they have a few million minions we have 6 billion of us for them to battle against, their fear is that we will at some point band together and say no more, we are taking our lives back and they could not stop us. So they make certain people disappear or discredit them through legal means, any thing to stop us and keep their controls maximized. The “Illuminati” say that they will control the world by 2012 and interestingly enough that date co-insides with the Mayan calendars doomsday date so which will come true? For me the “Illuminati” plan will come true first long before and incomplete calendars prediction comes to bear. What makes me think that the 2012 date of the “illuminati” will come true, it’s simple, we are letting it happen, even making it happen through our own stupidity, and doing so by voting or not voting for the very people who are minions of the elite, like Clinton, Bush 1 and 2, Obama, the elected expansion of the European Union, the politicians of the UK and their “political correctness” mania, the expansion of China into a world powerhouse and the fall of the USSR into feudal states of the dark ages. The world has been primed and the elite are ready to strike, all they need are the citizens of the world to let them and we seemingly are doing just that, what are you willing to do to stop them? BE PREPARED… Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna! Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam! Dante said, ‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis. [link to bornatemplar.blogspot.com] |
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