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When Will the Aliens Start Landing?

 
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The dramatic, highly publicized arrival of a UFO will be the arrival of the antichrist. The antichrist will not be arriving in "attack mode", but rather he will be arriving in "peace".

[link to www.john1429.org]

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After all is said and done, what most piqued my interest, or should I say tastebuds in this thread was mention of how good grey flesh was...

Damn, I want to try alien, and like the original poster of this idea, I can't wait for them to arrive so I can tuck in!
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They eat us as well how does your packaged meat taste? good? well imafine how much they must like eating us
i see meteos/shooting stars a lot just when i look up. i have a feeling they stay in one spot then shoot off when you catch.sight
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OK, guys, I just got intel from 'the other side'. They told me when 'it' would happen. What is 'it', you guys ask? 'It' is first contact. They told me 3 point on when it would happen:

1. It would happen on an ordinary day when nobody is celebrating anything or expecting anything big in particular.

2. There will be a red planet looming big in the sky at least a day or half a day before 'it' happens.

3. Many people around the world would start 'seeing things' and 'hearing voices in their head', as well as seeing visions of disasters happening on a global scale at least 2-3 days before 'it' happens.

They didn't told me when 'it' would happen based on dates, only that it would happen on any day within the 'next 9 days'......
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You really are a piece of work, do you know that.
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when we stop fearing one another
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News isn't really about current world events, it is about altering our perceptions of the world through deception.


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"News isn't really about current world events, it is about altering our perceptions of the world through deception."

Elaborate what you mean by that. Frankly, I can't comprehend what you meant by using the word "deception"..... Who to deceive? What to deceive on/about? Explain.
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The dramatic, highly publicized arrival of a UFO will be the arrival of the antichrist. The antichrist will not be arriving in "attack mode", but rather he will be arriving in "peace".

[link to www.john1429.org]

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That video was wrong..so..so wrong.
Funny how right off the bat they play their 'bible is not of private interpretation card' using scripture as a crutch.What they're really trying to say is THEIR interpretation is not to be challenged.Completely ignoring all their glaring inconsistencies and faults.Allow me to bring them to light...

Argument: "Beast equals a nation,while a woman represents a church"

Only half right actually.
While a woman apparently does represent a church,a beast represents a kingdom and not merely a single nation.

Funny how they go from saying the beast represents only the Vatican,to later saying it also represents the whole world through the 10 kings.Which is it,you can't have it both ways.

Also this silly 'vatican is the head boogeyman' talk is usually found in mainstream Christianity,which Rome supposedly rules over.

Many Christians have been conditioned to think the RCC and pope will be tied in with antichrist,which is just one more reason to question its legitimacy

These types of witch hunts against the Vatican and Islam as beast/AC candidates often have one thing in common.They completely ignore the existence of the New world Order and the other factions that go over the Vaticans head.The pope is merely a cute widdle puppet at this point folks


Argument: The latin title 'vicar of Christ' translates to 666 in hebrew germantra.His other titles also do so'

Big whoop..everyone from GW Bush,Gorbachav,Clinton,Obama and Prince William have been shown to have their names equal 666 in one way or another.And oh how convenient that we are told the other Pope names translate the same,but are not given the slightest bit of proof.charming. :P

Plus I'm pretty sure that the bible makes it clear that while the spirit of AC is alive in the world,the AC himself will be a single man and not a procession of leaders.Daniel makes this pretty darn clear since it goes into great deal talking about his exploits.

Argument: The 42 months the AC will oppose the saints should be prophetically seen as 1260 years from the 500's until the late 1700's

Cool story bro.
But first of all as I said before the AC is portrayed as a single man and not a long line of leaders.Secondly God said blessed are those who make it to the end of those 1 thousand something odd days because it is close to his 2nd coming.

And yet here we are 215 yrs after that time has ended and still no 2nd coming.We have far overspent the amount of days God has appointed if their theory is true.

This means either that God was wrong or the people that made this theory are dead wrong.Guess which one I'm betting :P

Secondly I think the poor 'vatican is the AC boogeyman' theorists are forgetting that the 1260 days/years (whatever) are only half the equation.The bible says that the AC will confirm a covenant with many for a week,and only break it in the last half.

Meaning if the video's theory was true that the RCC and pope would have had to confirm a covenant with many roughly 2500 yrs (thats how many days are in 7yrs) before 1798 when the last half of 1260 days/years ran out.

I'm no historian,but I'm pretty sure the pope and RCC didn't confirm a covenant with anyone in 800BC.


Argument: The pope is the beast because he was (500's)then wasn't (abolished in 1798) and then was again (reinstated in 1929)

I couldn't help but notice that you ignore the fact that John seemed to use the terminology as though the beast once 'was',but then already 'wasn't' when he wrote his prophecy in 90AD.

Meaning the beast was already dead by that time.In fact he states the 7 heads also represent 7 kings.5 of them were already were dead in Johns time,one of them was living,and there was one to come.He also said that the final 'beast' would be one of the same as it's predecessors.

Here just as almost pretty much every other AC centered scripture,he is depicted as an actual ruler that is to come.Not a long succession of men with the same title.

Also the papacy has been back since 1929 and the world has failed to marvel after it,and fall down and worship it.

And if you seriously think Christians simply being fooled to observe RCC based notions like Sunday worship,and observing holidays that were once pagan like Halloween,Easter,and Christmas, are 'falling down and worshiping the beast/dragon and taking his mark' you have some serious issues.

Which brings me to the final argument...

Argument: By instituting Sunday as day of worship instead of Saturday the mark of the beast has been given.AC (pope) changed times and laws by doing the Sunday worship,along with celebrating holidays with pagan origins like Easter,Christimas,and Halloween


Question...did not paul/peter and the other apostles decide that circumcision,and other aspects of the jewish law are not to be a burden on the gentiles?

Did they not instead request the gentile churches to observe the most common sense practices instead,such as not worshiping idols,and drinking blood?

So do please by all means tell me after all that, why you nuts think God would make worshiping him on the gentile 7th day rather than the Jewish one a grievous offense, let alone the the mark of the beast

Do you really think God as so petty to rage and storm that the rest of his children the world over,don't adhere to a Jewish calender rather than their own?

Go ahead..please do find me scriptural evidence that this is commanded in the new testament.

And as for the so called 'pagan' holidays,are you kidding me?

Last time I checked it is intention that mattered to God.I don't celebrate Easter or Christmas to worship ra,osiris,mithra,etc whatever..

I do it to worship Christ.
The fact that people used to worship these dieties on the same day or a similar way in the past is completely irrelevant.

And as for Halloween..lol..it's a day to dress up,decorate,have parties,and get candy and treats for most of us and nothing more.Get your undies out of a bundle.
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"News isn't really about current world events, it is about altering our perceptions of the world through deception."

Elaborate what you mean by that. Frankly, I can't comprehend what you meant by using the word "deception"..... Who to deceive? What to deceive on/about? Explain.
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Wow you're a completely hopeless retard.

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The dramatic, highly publicized arrival of a UFO will be the arrival of the antichrist. The antichrist will not be arriving in "attack mode", but rather he will be arriving in "peace".

[link to www.john1429.org]

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11877722


That video was wrong..so..so wrong.
Funny how right off the bat they play their 'bible is not of private interpretation card' using scripture as a crutch.What they're really trying to say is THEIR interpretation is not to be challenged.Completely ignoring all their glaring inconsistencies and faults.Allow me to bring them to light...

Argument: "Beast equals a nation,while a woman represents a church"

Only half right actually.
While a woman apparently does represent a church,a beast represents a kingdom and not merely a single nation.

Funny how they go from saying the beast represents only the Vatican,to later saying it also represents the whole world through the 10 kings.Which is it,you can't have it both ways.

Also this silly 'vatican is the head boogeyman' talk is usually found in mainstream Christianity,which Rome supposedly rules over.

Many Christians have been conditioned to think the RCC and pope will be tied in with antichrist,which is just one more reason to question its legitimacy

These types of witch hunts against the Vatican and Islam as beast/AC candidates often have one thing in common.They completely ignore the existence of the New world Order and the other factions that go over the Vaticans head.The pope is merely a cute widdle puppet at this point folks


Argument: The latin title 'vicar of Christ' translates to 666 in hebrew germantra.His other titles also do so'

Big whoop..everyone from GW Bush,Gorbachav,Clinton,Obama and Prince William have been shown to have their names equal 666 in one way or another.And oh how convenient that we are told the other Pope names translate the same,but are not given the slightest bit of proof.charming. :P

Plus I'm pretty sure that the bible makes it clear that while the spirit of AC is alive in the world,the AC himself will be a single man and not a procession of leaders.Daniel makes this pretty darn clear since it goes into great deal talking about his exploits.

Argument: The 42 months the AC will oppose the saints should be prophetically seen as 1260 years from the 500's until the late 1700's

Cool story bro.
But first of all as I said before the AC is portrayed as a single man and not a long line of leaders.Secondly God said blessed are those who make it to the end of those 1 thousand something odd days because it is close to his 2nd coming.

And yet here we are 215 yrs after that time has ended and still no 2nd coming.We have far overspent the amount of days God has appointed if their theory is true.

This means either that God was wrong or the people that made this theory are dead wrong.Guess which one I'm betting :P

Secondly I think the poor 'vatican is the AC boogeyman' theorists are forgetting that the 1260 days/years (whatever) are only half the equation.The bible says that the AC will confirm a covenant with many for a week,and only break it in the last half.

Meaning if the video's theory was true that the RCC and pope would have had to confirm a covenant with many roughly 2500 yrs (thats how many days are in 7yrs) before 1798 when the last half of 1260 days/years ran out.

I'm no historian,but I'm pretty sure the pope and RCC didn't confirm a covenant with anyone in 800BC.


Argument: The pope is the beast because he was (500's)then wasn't (abolished in 1798) and then was again (reinstated in 1929)

I couldn't help but notice that you ignore the fact that John seemed to use the terminology as though the beast once 'was',but then already 'wasn't' when he wrote his prophecy in 90AD.

Meaning the beast was already dead by that time.In fact he states the 7 heads also represent 7 kings.5 of them were already were dead in Johns time,one of them was living,and there was one to come.He also said that the final 'beast' would be one of the same as it's predecessors.

Here just as almost pretty much every other AC centered scripture,he is depicted as an actual ruler that is to come.Not a long succession of men with the same title.

Also the papacy has been back since 1929 and the world has failed to marvel after it,and fall down and worship it.

And if you seriously think Christians simply being fooled to observe RCC based notions like Sunday worship,and observing holidays that were once pagan like Halloween,Easter,and Christmas, are 'falling down and worshiping the beast/dragon and taking his mark' you have some serious issues.

Which brings me to the final argument...

Argument: By instituting Sunday as day of worship instead of Saturday the mark of the beast has been given.AC (pope) changed times and laws by doing the Sunday worship,along with celebrating holidays with pagan origins like Easter,Christimas,and Halloween


Question...did not paul/peter and the other apostles decide that circumcision,and other aspects of the jewish law are not to be a burden on the gentiles?

Did they not instead request the gentile churches to observe the most common sense practices instead,such as not worshiping idols,and drinking blood?

So do please by all means tell me after all that, why you nuts think God would make worshiping him on the gentile 7th day rather than the Jewish one a grievous offense, let alone the the mark of the beast

Do you really think God as so petty to rage and storm that the rest of his children the world over,don't adhere to a Jewish calender rather than their own?

Go ahead..please do find me scriptural evidence that this is commanded in the new testament.

And as for the so called 'pagan' holidays,are you kidding me?

Last time I checked it is intention that mattered to God.I don't celebrate Easter or Christmas to worship ra,osiris,mithra,etc whatever..

I do it to worship Christ.
The fact that people used to worship these dieties on the same day or a similar way in the past is completely irrelevant.

And as for Halloween..lol..it's a day to dress up,decorate,have parties,and get candy and treats for most of us and nothing more.Get your undies out of a bundle.
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Do you have scriptures to back up your position?
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The dramatic, highly publicized arrival of a UFO will be the arrival of the antichrist. The antichrist will not be arriving in "attack mode", but rather he will be arriving in "peace".

[link to www.john1429.org]

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That video was wrong..so..so wrong.
Funny how right off the bat they play their 'bible is not of private interpretation card' using scripture as a crutch.What they're really trying to say is THEIR interpretation is not to be challenged.Completely ignoring all their glaring inconsistencies and faults.Allow me to bring them to light...

Argument: "Beast equals a nation,while a woman represents a church"

Only half right actually.
While a woman apparently does represent a church,a beast represents a kingdom and not merely a single nation.

Funny how they go from saying the beast represents only the Vatican,to later saying it also represents the whole world through the 10 kings.Which is it,you can't have it both ways.

Also this silly 'vatican is the head boogeyman' talk is usually found in mainstream Christianity,which Rome supposedly rules over.

Many Christians have been conditioned to think the RCC and pope will be tied in with antichrist,which is just one more reason to question its legitimacy

These types of witch hunts against the Vatican and Islam as beast/AC candidates often have one thing in common.They completely ignore the existence of the New world Order and the other factions that go over the Vaticans head.The pope is merely a cute widdle puppet at this point folks


Argument: The latin title 'vicar of Christ' translates to 666 in hebrew germantra.His other titles also do so'

Big whoop..everyone from GW Bush,Gorbachav,Clinton,Obama and Prince William have been shown to have their names equal 666 in one way or another.And oh how convenient that we are told the other Pope names translate the same,but are not given the slightest bit of proof.charming. :P

Plus I'm pretty sure that the bible makes it clear that while the spirit of AC is alive in the world,the AC himself will be a single man and not a procession of leaders.Daniel makes this pretty darn clear since it goes into great deal talking about his exploits.

Argument: The 42 months the AC will oppose the saints should be prophetically seen as 1260 years from the 500's until the late 1700's

Cool story bro.
But first of all as I said before the AC is portrayed as a single man and not a long line of leaders.Secondly God said blessed are those who make it to the end of those 1 thousand something odd days because it is close to his 2nd coming.

And yet here we are 215 yrs after that time has ended and still no 2nd coming.We have far overspent the amount of days God has appointed if their theory is true.

This means either that God was wrong or the people that made this theory are dead wrong.Guess which one I'm betting :P

Secondly I think the poor 'vatican is the AC boogeyman' theorists are forgetting that the 1260 days/years (whatever) are only half the equation.The bible says that the AC will confirm a covenant with many for a week,and only break it in the last half.

Meaning if the video's theory was true that the RCC and pope would have had to confirm a covenant with many roughly 2500 yrs (thats how many days are in 7yrs) before 1798 when the last half of 1260 days/years ran out.

I'm no historian,but I'm pretty sure the pope and RCC didn't confirm a covenant with anyone in 800BC.


Argument: The pope is the beast because he was (500's)then wasn't (abolished in 1798) and then was again (reinstated in 1929)

I couldn't help but notice that you ignore the fact that John seemed to use the terminology as though the beast once 'was',but then already 'wasn't' when he wrote his prophecy in 90AD.

Meaning the beast was already dead by that time.In fact he states the 7 heads also represent 7 kings.5 of them were already were dead in Johns time,one of them was living,and there was one to come.He also said that the final 'beast' would be one of the same as it's predecessors.

Here just as almost pretty much every other AC centered scripture,he is depicted as an actual ruler that is to come.Not a long succession of men with the same title.

Also the papacy has been back since 1929 and the world has failed to marvel after it,and fall down and worship it.

And if you seriously think Christians simply being fooled to observe RCC based notions like Sunday worship,and observing holidays that were once pagan like Halloween,Easter,and Christmas, are 'falling down and worshiping the beast/dragon and taking his mark' you have some serious issues.

Which brings me to the final argument...

Argument: By instituting Sunday as day of worship instead of Saturday the mark of the beast has been given.AC (pope) changed times and laws by doing the Sunday worship,along with celebrating holidays with pagan origins like Easter,Christimas,and Halloween


Question...did not paul/peter and the other apostles decide that circumcision,and other aspects of the jewish law are not to be a burden on the gentiles?

Did they not instead request the gentile churches to observe the most common sense practices instead,such as not worshiping idols,and drinking blood?

So do please by all means tell me after all that, why you nuts think God would make worshiping him on the gentile 7th day rather than the Jewish one a grievous offense, let alone the the mark of the beast

Do you really think God as so petty to rage and storm that the rest of his children the world over,don't adhere to a Jewish calender rather than their own?

Go ahead..please do find me scriptural evidence that this is commanded in the new testament.

And as for the so called 'pagan' holidays,are you kidding me?

Last time I checked it is intention that mattered to God.I don't celebrate Easter or Christmas to worship ra,osiris,mithra,etc whatever..

I do it to worship Christ.
The fact that people used to worship these dieties on the same day or a similar way in the past is completely irrelevant.

And as for Halloween..lol..it's a day to dress up,decorate,have parties,and get candy and treats for most of us and nothing more.Get your undies out of a bundle.
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Do you have scriptures to back up your position?

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Do you?
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The dramatic, highly publicized arrival of a UFO will be the arrival of the antichrist. The antichrist will not be arriving in "attack mode", but rather he will be arriving in "peace".

[link to www.john1429.org]

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That video was wrong..so..so wrong.
Funny how right off the bat they play their 'bible is not of private interpretation card' using scripture as a crutch.What they're really trying to say is THEIR interpretation is not to be challenged.Completely ignoring all their glaring inconsistencies and faults.Allow me to bring them to light...

Argument: "Beast equals a nation,while a woman represents a church"

Only half right actually.
While a woman apparently does represent a church,a beast represents a kingdom and not merely a single nation.

Funny how they go from saying the beast represents only the Vatican,to later saying it also represents the whole world through the 10 kings.Which is it,you can't have it both ways.

Also this silly 'vatican is the head boogeyman' talk is usually found in mainstream Christianity,which Rome supposedly rules over.

Many Christians have been conditioned to think the RCC and pope will be tied in with antichrist,which is just one more reason to question its legitimacy

These types of witch hunts against the Vatican and Islam as beast/AC candidates often have one thing in common.They completely ignore the existence of the New world Order and the other factions that go over the Vaticans head.The pope is merely a cute widdle puppet at this point folks


Argument: The latin title 'vicar of Christ' translates to 666 in hebrew germantra.His other titles also do so'

Big whoop..everyone from GW Bush,Gorbachav,Clinton,Obama and Prince William have been shown to have their names equal 666 in one way or another.And oh how convenient that we are told the other Pope names translate the same,but are not given the slightest bit of proof.charming. :P

Plus I'm pretty sure that the bible makes it clear that while the spirit of AC is alive in the world,the AC himself will be a single man and not a procession of leaders.Daniel makes this pretty darn clear since it goes into great deal talking about his exploits.

Argument: The 42 months the AC will oppose the saints should be prophetically seen as 1260 years from the 500's until the late 1700's

Cool story bro.
But first of all as I said before the AC is portrayed as a single man and not a long line of leaders.Secondly God said blessed are those who make it to the end of those 1 thousand something odd days because it is close to his 2nd coming.

And yet here we are 215 yrs after that time has ended and still no 2nd coming.We have far overspent the amount of days God has appointed if their theory is true.

This means either that God was wrong or the people that made this theory are dead wrong.Guess which one I'm betting :P

Secondly I think the poor 'vatican is the AC boogeyman' theorists are forgetting that the 1260 days/years (whatever) are only half the equation.The bible says that the AC will confirm a covenant with many for a week,and only break it in the last half.

Meaning if the video's theory was true that the RCC and pope would have had to confirm a covenant with many roughly 2500 yrs (thats how many days are in 7yrs) before 1798 when the last half of 1260 days/years ran out.

I'm no historian,but I'm pretty sure the pope and RCC didn't confirm a covenant with anyone in 800BC.


Argument: The pope is the beast because he was (500's)then wasn't (abolished in 1798) and then was again (reinstated in 1929)

I couldn't help but notice that you ignore the fact that John seemed to use the terminology as though the beast once 'was',but then already 'wasn't' when he wrote his prophecy in 90AD.

Meaning the beast was already dead by that time.In fact he states the 7 heads also represent 7 kings.5 of them were already were dead in Johns time,one of them was living,and there was one to come.He also said that the final 'beast' would be one of the same as it's predecessors.

Here just as almost pretty much every other AC centered scripture,he is depicted as an actual ruler that is to come.Not a long succession of men with the same title.

Also the papacy has been back since 1929 and the world has failed to marvel after it,and fall down and worship it.

And if you seriously think Christians simply being fooled to observe RCC based notions like Sunday worship,and observing holidays that were once pagan like Halloween,Easter,and Christmas, are 'falling down and worshiping the beast/dragon and taking his mark' you have some serious issues.

Which brings me to the final argument...

Argument: By instituting Sunday as day of worship instead of Saturday the mark of the beast has been given.AC (pope) changed times and laws by doing the Sunday worship,along with celebrating holidays with pagan origins like Easter,Christimas,and Halloween


Question...did not paul/peter and the other apostles decide that circumcision,and other aspects of the jewish law are not to be a burden on the gentiles?

Did they not instead request the gentile churches to observe the most common sense practices instead,such as not worshiping idols,and drinking blood?

So do please by all means tell me after all that, why you nuts think God would make worshiping him on the gentile 7th day rather than the Jewish one a grievous offense, let alone the the mark of the beast

Do you really think God as so petty to rage and storm that the rest of his children the world over,don't adhere to a Jewish calender rather than their own?

Go ahead..please do find me scriptural evidence that this is commanded in the new testament.

And as for the so called 'pagan' holidays,are you kidding me?

Last time I checked it is intention that mattered to God.I don't celebrate Easter or Christmas to worship ra,osiris,mithra,etc whatever..

I do it to worship Christ.
The fact that people used to worship these dieties on the same day or a similar way in the past is completely irrelevant.

And as for Halloween..lol..it's a day to dress up,decorate,have parties,and get candy and treats for most of us and nothing more.Get your undies out of a bundle.
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Do you have scriptures to back up your position?

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Do you?
I'll wait....
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I didn't state a position or opinion. I asked a simple question in hopes that I could learn and/or understand the subjects you brought up.
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That video was wrong..so..so wrong.
Funny how right off the bat they play their 'bible is not of private interpretation card' using scripture as a crutch.What they're really trying to say is THEIR interpretation is not to be challenged.Completely ignoring all their glaring inconsistencies and faults.Allow me to bring them to light...

Argument: "Beast equals a nation,while a woman represents a church"

Only half right actually.
While a woman apparently does represent a church,a beast represents a kingdom and not merely a single nation.

Funny how they go from saying the beast represents only the Vatican,to later saying it also represents the whole world through the 10 kings.Which is it,you can't have it both ways.

Also this silly 'vatican is the head boogeyman' talk is usually found in mainstream Christianity,which Rome supposedly rules over.

Many Christians have been conditioned to think the RCC and pope will be tied in with antichrist,which is just one more reason to question its legitimacy

These types of witch hunts against the Vatican and Islam as beast/AC candidates often have one thing in common.They completely ignore the existence of the New world Order and the other factions that go over the Vaticans head.The pope is merely a cute widdle puppet at this point folks


Argument: The latin title 'vicar of Christ' translates to 666 in hebrew germantra.His other titles also do so'

Big whoop..everyone from GW Bush,Gorbachav,Clinton,Obama and Prince William have been shown to have their names equal 666 in one way or another.And oh how convenient that we are told the other Pope names translate the same,but are not given the slightest bit of proof.charming. :P

Plus I'm pretty sure that the bible makes it clear that while the spirit of AC is alive in the world,the AC himself will be a single man and not a procession of leaders.Daniel makes this pretty darn clear since it goes into great deal talking about his exploits.

Argument: The 42 months the AC will oppose the saints should be prophetically seen as 1260 years from the 500's until the late 1700's

Cool story bro.
But first of all as I said before the AC is portrayed as a single man and not a long line of leaders.Secondly God said blessed are those who make it to the end of those 1 thousand something odd days because it is close to his 2nd coming.

And yet here we are 215 yrs after that time has ended and still no 2nd coming.We have far overspent the amount of days God has appointed if their theory is true.

This means either that God was wrong or the people that made this theory are dead wrong.Guess which one I'm betting :P

Secondly I think the poor 'vatican is the AC boogeyman' theorists are forgetting that the 1260 days/years (whatever) are only half the equation.The bible says that the AC will confirm a covenant with many for a week,and only break it in the last half.

Meaning if the video's theory was true that the RCC and pope would have had to confirm a covenant with many roughly 2500 yrs (thats how many days are in 7yrs) before 1798 when the last half of 1260 days/years ran out.

I'm no historian,but I'm pretty sure the pope and RCC didn't confirm a covenant with anyone in 800BC.


Argument: The pope is the beast because he was (500's)then wasn't (abolished in 1798) and then was again (reinstated in 1929)

I couldn't help but notice that you ignore the fact that John seemed to use the terminology as though the beast once 'was',but then already 'wasn't' when he wrote his prophecy in 90AD.

Meaning the beast was already dead by that time.In fact he states the 7 heads also represent 7 kings.5 of them were already were dead in Johns time,one of them was living,and there was one to come.He also said that the final 'beast' would be one of the same as it's predecessors.

Here just as almost pretty much every other AC centered scripture,he is depicted as an actual ruler that is to come.Not a long succession of men with the same title.

Also the papacy has been back since 1929 and the world has failed to marvel after it,and fall down and worship it.

And if you seriously think Christians simply being fooled to observe RCC based notions like Sunday worship,and observing holidays that were once pagan like Halloween,Easter,and Christmas, are 'falling down and worshiping the beast/dragon and taking his mark' you have some serious issues.

Which brings me to the final argument...

Argument: By instituting Sunday as day of worship instead of Saturday the mark of the beast has been given.AC (pope) changed times and laws by doing the Sunday worship,along with celebrating holidays with pagan origins like Easter,Christimas,and Halloween


Question...did not paul/peter and the other apostles decide that circumcision,and other aspects of the jewish law are not to be a burden on the gentiles?

Did they not instead request the gentile churches to observe the most common sense practices instead,such as not worshiping idols,and drinking blood?

So do please by all means tell me after all that, why you nuts think God would make worshiping him on the gentile 7th day rather than the Jewish one a grievous offense, let alone the the mark of the beast

Do you really think God as so petty to rage and storm that the rest of his children the world over,don't adhere to a Jewish calender rather than their own?

Go ahead..please do find me scriptural evidence that this is commanded in the new testament.

And as for the so called 'pagan' holidays,are you kidding me?

Last time I checked it is intention that mattered to God.I don't celebrate Easter or Christmas to worship ra,osiris,mithra,etc whatever..

I do it to worship Christ.
The fact that people used to worship these dieties on the same day or a similar way in the past is completely irrelevant.

And as for Halloween..lol..it's a day to dress up,decorate,have parties,and get candy and treats for most of us and nothing more.Get your undies out of a bundle.
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Do you have scriptures to back up your position?

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Do you?
I'll wait....
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I didn't state a position or opinion. I asked a simple question in hopes that I could learn and/or understand the subjects you brought up.
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Yes what I said was based on scripture that the makers of the video conveniently left out.

My advice would be to study daniel and revelation extensively yourself to see the many holes I mentioned.
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'And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.' Revelation 13:5


'And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.' Daniel 9:27

by the video's logic the last 1260 'days' actually represented that many years.from the 500's to right before 1800.But in the bible the end of those days see's the return of Christ.215 yrs since that date and no 2nd coming.

Also the other half of the 'week' of antichrist would add yet another 1260 days.Meaning the covenant would have been signed before the birth of Christ even if it meant years.
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What is REAL and What is Imaginary
[link to www.kingmannafta.com]

Ladies and gentlemen, here is why Pope John Paul II is the antichrist.

Revelation
Rev 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Rev 17:9 And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

Please watch this video [link to www.john1429.org]

That video explains almost everything that I would explain, but it does not go so far as to identify the antichrist, it only identifies the 1st beast of Revelation 13.

To help reduce confusion, it will help to keep this in mind:

God The Father, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit

Satan, antichrist, False Prophet

Satan tries to mimic God in every possible way in order to deceive people. God exists as 3 separate beings and Satan tries to duplicate that.

So here are the key verses that identify Pope John Paul II as the antichrist:
Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

A person needs to know a little history to understand this, but in 1929, the Vatican and Italy signed the Lateran Treaty which made Vatican City a separate nation. Nations are ruled by kings, presidents, etc. The Pope is the head of the Catholic church and thus became the king of Vatican City.

If you go here: [link to www.wordiq.com]
you will find an outdated list of all of the Popes, but you will see that Pope Pius XI was the Pope at the time that the Lateran Treaty was signed, which made him the 1st king.

OK, look at Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is,

Start counting Popes and you will see that Pope John Paul II is the 6th Pope and notice the verse "AND ONE IS". God made certain that there was a distinction given in Scripture. God could have said "4 have fallen........", but He made the 6th king distinctive from the rest.

Then Rev 17:10 says: [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

Pope Ratzinger is "the other" Pope, and God says he will continue for a short time. I don't know exactly how short a time, but Pope John Paul II reigned for about 27 years, so I suspect that Pope Ratzinger will reign for 13 years or less.

Now this is where the antichrist appears in this verse:
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The beast that was: John Paul II

and is not: John Paul II died in 2005

even he is the eighth, and is of the seven: this means that one of the Popes is coming back. (for people who are still confused, think of a 7 person softball team and the batting rotation. After everyone has batted once, the first batter comes to bat again, although in this case, the rotation goes to John Paul II)

Does anyone even remember who was Pope before John Paul II? John Paul II's picture is in a new Bible, which means that he is still being promoted to the public. He was the most travelled Pope, the most well known, and the most liked Pope in recent memory. Furthermore, the Bible clearly singles him out "AND ONE IS".

Now I have said to you that Satan tries to duplicate everything that God does in order to deceive as many people as possible. When John Paul II appears to come back, it will be Satan trying to duplicate the resurrection of Jesus Christ. John Paul II will NOT be coming back because the Bible says in this verse:

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

This can mean only one thing.... a fallen angel will be impersonating Pope John Paul II.

Now here is the VERY interesting thing. The Vatican knows what it is in Scripture. The Pope knows who he is in Scripture. The antichrist knows who he is Scripture.

Do you know who doesn't KNOW Scripture? Most people on planet Earth, including most professing Christians, so it's pretty easy to fool most people and that it exactly what Pope Ratzinger and Pope Francis have done.

Pope Ratzinger RESIGNED from being Pope to fool the world and fool the world he has. Scripture is very clear about who the antichrist is and Scripture makes it very clear that Pope Ratzinger is the 7th king, so what does he do? He RESIGNS so that a PROXY Pope can be the 8th king in appearance ONLY, so as to fool the world. They tried to invalidate Scripture, but have they?

Don't the Popes CLAIM to be "God" on Earth? Yes they do.

How can a Pope stop being "God" and then another man becomes Pope and becomes "God" on Earth?

Death is the deciding factor in all of this and Pope Ratzinger is still alive and he is still the 7th king. Pope Francis is a PROXY, filling in for Pope Ratzinger.

All of the razzle dazzle by Satan and his servants does not change God's Word, the King James Bible.

For the people who put their trust in men and their writings and their videos, be VERY careful. Nobody gets everything right, but God's Word is true and it is the final Judge. Read and watch what other sincere believers in Jesus Christ have to share, but then go back to the King James Bible and prove everything to yourself.

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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From this article
What is REAL and What is Imaginary
[link to www.kingmannafta.com]

Ladies and gentlemen, here is why Pope John Paul II is the antichrist.

Revelation
Rev 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Rev 17:9 And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

Please watch this video [link to www.john1429.org]

That video explains almost everything that I would explain, but it does not go so far as to identify the antichrist, it only identifies the 1st beast of Revelation 13.

To help reduce confusion, it will help to keep this in mind:

God The Father, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit

Satan, antichrist, False Prophet

Satan tries to mimic God in every possible way in order to deceive people. God exists as 3 separate beings and Satan tries to duplicate that.

So here are the key verses that identify Pope John Paul II as the antichrist:
Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

A person needs to know a little history to understand this, but in 1929, the Vatican and Italy signed the Lateran Treaty which made Vatican City a separate nation. Nations are ruled by kings, presidents, etc. The Pope is the head of the Catholic church and thus became the king of Vatican City.

If you go here: [link to www.wordiq.com]
you will find an outdated list of all of the Popes, but you will see that Pope Pius XI was the Pope at the time that the Lateran Treaty was signed, which made him the 1st king.

OK, look at Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is,

Start counting Popes and you will see that Pope John Paul II is the 6th Pope and notice the verse "AND ONE IS". God made certain that there was a distinction given in Scripture. God could have said "4 have fallen........", but He made the 6th king distinctive from the rest.

Then Rev 17:10 says: [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

Pope Ratzinger is "the other" Pope, and God says he will continue for a short time. I don't know exactly how short a time, but Pope John Paul II reigned for about 27 years, so I suspect that Pope Ratzinger will reign for 13 years or less.

Now this is where the antichrist appears in this verse:
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The beast that was: John Paul II

and is not: John Paul II died in 2005

even he is the eighth, and is of the seven: this means that one of the Popes is coming back. (for people who are still confused, think of a 7 person softball team and the batting rotation. After everyone has batted once, the first batter comes to bat again, although in this case, the rotation goes to John Paul II)

Does anyone even remember who was Pope before John Paul II? John Paul II's picture is in a new Bible, which means that he is still being promoted to the public. He was the most travelled Pope, the most well known, and the most liked Pope in recent memory. Furthermore, the Bible clearly singles him out "AND ONE IS".

Now I have said to you that Satan tries to duplicate everything that God does in order to deceive as many people as possible. When John Paul II appears to come back, it will be Satan trying to duplicate the resurrection of Jesus Christ. John Paul II will NOT be coming back because the Bible says in this verse:

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

This can mean only one thing.... a fallen angel will be impersonating Pope John Paul II.

Now here is the VERY interesting thing. The Vatican knows what it is in Scripture. The Pope knows who he is in Scripture. The antichrist knows who he is Scripture.

Do you know who doesn't KNOW Scripture? Most people on planet Earth, including most professing Christians, so it's pretty easy to fool most people and that it exactly what Pope Ratzinger and Pope Francis have done.

Pope Ratzinger RESIGNED from being Pope to fool the world and fool the world he has. Scripture is very clear about who the antichrist is and Scripture makes it very clear that Pope Ratzinger is the 7th king, so what does he do? He RESIGNS so that a PROXY Pope can be the 8th king in appearance ONLY, so as to fool the world. They tried to invalidate Scripture, but have they?

Don't the Popes CLAIM to be "God" on Earth? Yes they do.

How can a Pope stop being "God" and then another man becomes Pope and becomes "God" on Earth?

Death is the deciding factor in all of this and Pope Ratzinger is still alive and he is still the 7th king. Pope Francis is a PROXY, filling in for Pope Ratzinger.

All of the razzle dazzle by Satan and his servants does not change God's Word, the King James Bible.

For the people who put their trust in men and their writings and their videos, be VERY careful. Nobody gets everything right, but God's Word is true and it is the final Judge. Read and watch what other sincere believers in Jesus Christ have to share, but then go back to the King James Bible and prove everything to yourself.

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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From this article
What is REAL and What is Imaginary
[link to www.kingmannafta.com]

Ladies and gentlemen, here is why Pope John Paul II is the antichrist.

Revelation
Rev 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Rev 17:9 And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

Please watch this video [link to www.john1429.org]

That video explains almost everything that I would explain, but it does not go so far as to identify the antichrist, it only identifies the 1st beast of Revelation 13.

To help reduce confusion, it will help to keep this in mind:

God The Father, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit

Satan, antichrist, False Prophet

Satan tries to mimic God in every possible way in order to deceive people. God exists as 3 separate beings and Satan tries to duplicate that.

So here are the key verses that identify Pope John Paul II as the antichrist:
Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

A person needs to know a little history to understand this, but in 1929, the Vatican and Italy signed the Lateran Treaty which made Vatican City a separate nation. Nations are ruled by kings, presidents, etc. The Pope is the head of the Catholic church and thus became the king of Vatican City.

If you go here: [link to www.wordiq.com]
you will find an outdated list of all of the Popes, but you will see that Pope Pius XI was the Pope at the time that the Lateran Treaty was signed, which made him the 1st king.

OK, look at Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is,

Start counting Popes and you will see that Pope John Paul II is the 6th Pope and notice the verse "AND ONE IS". God made certain that there was a distinction given in Scripture. God could have said "4 have fallen........", but He made the 6th king distinctive from the rest.

Then Rev 17:10 says: [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

Pope Ratzinger is "the other" Pope, and God says he will continue for a short time. I don't know exactly how short a time, but Pope John Paul II reigned for about 27 years, so I suspect that Pope Ratzinger will reign for 13 years or less.

Now this is where the antichrist appears in this verse:
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The beast that was: John Paul II

and is not: John Paul II died in 2005

even he is the eighth, and is of the seven: this means that one of the Popes is coming back. (for people who are still confused, think of a 7 person softball team and the batting rotation. After everyone has batted once, the first batter comes to bat again, although in this case, the rotation goes to John Paul II)

Does anyone even remember who was Pope before John Paul II? John Paul II's picture is in a new Bible, which means that he is still being promoted to the public. He was the most travelled Pope, the most well known, and the most liked Pope in recent memory. Furthermore, the Bible clearly singles him out "AND ONE IS".

Now I have said to you that Satan tries to duplicate everything that God does in order to deceive as many people as possible. When John Paul II appears to come back, it will be Satan trying to duplicate the resurrection of Jesus Christ. John Paul II will NOT be coming back because the Bible says in this verse:

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

This can mean only one thing.... a fallen angel will be impersonating Pope John Paul II.

Now here is the VERY interesting thing. The Vatican knows what it is in Scripture. The Pope knows who he is in Scripture. The antichrist knows who he is Scripture.

Do you know who doesn't KNOW Scripture? Most people on planet Earth, including most professing Christians, so it's pretty easy to fool most people and that it exactly what Pope Ratzinger and Pope Francis have done.

Pope Ratzinger RESIGNED from being Pope to fool the world and fool the world he has. Scripture is very clear about who the antichrist is and Scripture makes it very clear that Pope Ratzinger is the 7th king, so what does he do? He RESIGNS so that a PROXY Pope can be the 8th king in appearance ONLY, so as to fool the world. They tried to invalidate Scripture, but have they?

Don't the Popes CLAIM to be "God" on Earth? Yes they do.

How can a Pope stop being "God" and then another man becomes Pope and becomes "God" on Earth?

Death is the deciding factor in all of this and Pope Ratzinger is still alive and he is still the 7th king. Pope Francis is a PROXY, filling in for Pope Ratzinger.

All of the razzle dazzle by Satan and his servants does not change God's Word, the King James Bible.

For the people who put their trust in men and their writings and their videos, be VERY careful. Nobody gets everything right, but God's Word is true and it is the final Judge. Read and watch what other sincere believers in Jesus Christ have to share, but then go back to the King James Bible and prove everything to yourself.

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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