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Message Subject When Will the Aliens Start Landing?
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The dramatic, highly publicized arrival of a UFO will be the arrival of the antichrist. The antichrist will not be arriving in "attack mode", but rather he will be arriving in "peace".

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That video was wrong..so..so wrong.
Funny how right off the bat they play their 'bible is not of private interpretation card' using scripture as a crutch.What they're really trying to say is THEIR interpretation is not to be challenged.Completely ignoring all their glaring inconsistencies and faults.Allow me to bring them to light...

Argument: "Beast equals a nation,while a woman represents a church"

Only half right actually.
While a woman apparently does represent a church,a beast represents a kingdom and not merely a single nation.

Funny how they go from saying the beast represents only the Vatican,to later saying it also represents the whole world through the 10 kings.Which is it,you can't have it both ways.

Also this silly 'vatican is the head boogeyman' talk is usually found in mainstream Christianity,which Rome supposedly rules over.

Many Christians have been conditioned to think the RCC and pope will be tied in with antichrist,which is just one more reason to question its legitimacy

These types of witch hunts against the Vatican and Islam as beast/AC candidates often have one thing in common.They completely ignore the existence of the New world Order and the other factions that go over the Vaticans head.The pope is merely a cute widdle puppet at this point folks


Argument: The latin title 'vicar of Christ' translates to 666 in hebrew germantra.His other titles also do so'

Big whoop..everyone from GW Bush,Gorbachav,Clinton,Obama and Prince William have been shown to have their names equal 666 in one way or another.And oh how convenient that we are told the other Pope names translate the same,but are not given the slightest bit of proof.charming. :P

Plus I'm pretty sure that the bible makes it clear that while the spirit of AC is alive in the world,the AC himself will be a single man and not a procession of leaders.Daniel makes this pretty darn clear since it goes into great deal talking about his exploits.

Argument: The 42 months the AC will oppose the saints should be prophetically seen as 1260 years from the 500's until the late 1700's

Cool story bro.
But first of all as I said before the AC is portrayed as a single man and not a long line of leaders.Secondly God said blessed are those who make it to the end of those 1 thousand something odd days because it is close to his 2nd coming.

And yet here we are 215 yrs after that time has ended and still no 2nd coming.We have far overspent the amount of days God has appointed if their theory is true.

This means either that God was wrong or the people that made this theory are dead wrong.Guess which one I'm betting :P

Secondly I think the poor 'vatican is the AC boogeyman' theorists are forgetting that the 1260 days/years (whatever) are only half the equation.The bible says that the AC will confirm a covenant with many for a week,and only break it in the last half.

Meaning if the video's theory was true that the RCC and pope would have had to confirm a covenant with many roughly 2500 yrs (thats how many days are in 7yrs) before 1798 when the last half of 1260 days/years ran out.

I'm no historian,but I'm pretty sure the pope and RCC didn't confirm a covenant with anyone in 800BC.


Argument: The pope is the beast because he was (500's)then wasn't (abolished in 1798) and then was again (reinstated in 1929)

I couldn't help but notice that you ignore the fact that John seemed to use the terminology as though the beast once 'was',but then already 'wasn't' when he wrote his prophecy in 90AD.

Meaning the beast was already dead by that time.In fact he states the 7 heads also represent 7 kings.5 of them were already were dead in Johns time,one of them was living,and there was one to come.He also said that the final 'beast' would be one of the same as it's predecessors.

Here just as almost pretty much every other AC centered scripture,he is depicted as an actual ruler that is to come.Not a long succession of men with the same title.

Also the papacy has been back since 1929 and the world has failed to marvel after it,and fall down and worship it.

And if you seriously think Christians simply being fooled to observe RCC based notions like Sunday worship,and observing holidays that were once pagan like Halloween,Easter,and Christmas, are 'falling down and worshiping the beast/dragon and taking his mark' you have some serious issues.

Which brings me to the final argument...

Argument: By instituting Sunday as day of worship instead of Saturday the mark of the beast has been given.AC (pope) changed times and laws by doing the Sunday worship,along with celebrating holidays with pagan origins like Easter,Christimas,and Halloween


Question...did not paul/peter and the other apostles decide that circumcision,and other aspects of the jewish law are not to be a burden on the gentiles?

Did they not instead request the gentile churches to observe the most common sense practices instead,such as not worshiping idols,and drinking blood?

So do please by all means tell me after all that, why you nuts think God would make worshiping him on the gentile 7th day rather than the Jewish one a grievous offense, let alone the the mark of the beast

Do you really think God as so petty to rage and storm that the rest of his children the world over,don't adhere to a Jewish calender rather than their own?

Go ahead..please do find me scriptural evidence that this is commanded in the new testament.

And as for the so called 'pagan' holidays,are you kidding me?

Last time I checked it is intention that mattered to God.I don't celebrate Easter or Christmas to worship ra,osiris,mithra,etc whatever..

I do it to worship Christ.
The fact that people used to worship these dieties on the same day or a similar way in the past is completely irrelevant.

And as for Halloween..lol..it's a day to dress up,decorate,have parties,and get candy and treats for most of us and nothing more.Get your undies out of a bundle.
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Do you have scriptures to back up your position?

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Do you?
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