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My Grandfather and his brother were 33rd degree Masons - he warned me ...

 
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Hey OP did you find his cypher? Seriously, look for it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20507216


I will see what I have. I have a trunk with all of his important papers in it, he passed away recently. He was a 33rd degree Mason for over 40 years.
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


Look for a large blue Masonic Bible.
Chances are he'll have one.
I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on.

- Battle Hymn of the Republic
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James 3:6-9

And the tongue [is] a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.

For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind.

But no man can tame the tongue. [It is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God.
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My daddy was a Mason and was the most Christian man I know, he didn't talk it, he walked it. Never a bad word was said about him. I grew up in the Lodge, I was in the Rainbow Organization for young girls and was actually the state president. Everything was based on the Bible and very reverent. It taught young ladies self respect and confidence. I detest these threads from people who have no clue what goes on trying to degrade some of the finest people I have ever known.
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


My grandfather was a good person too he just had some bad habits ... so was his brother . There is good and evil everywhere you look . The lodge I was involved with though were old guys that drank alot . ..Im not trying to give anyone a bad name just sharing what i remember as a teen in the 80s . My mother was in rainbow girls in the 50s and still hangs out with her friends who are in their 70s now ! ...
 Quoting: Apocalypse Girl


My daddy didn't drink or have any other bad habits. The Rainbow Girls is responsible for me being who I am today. I have a very good job and I do all of the public speaking for a large university and I would never have had the confidence to do this without what I learned about myself during my time in that organization. And yes I keep up with my friends too. They are a true blessing.

And I wasn't referring to you as being degrading, just the general comments from others about horrible things that are not true. I have all of daddy's ritual books and remember him teaching others when I was little. Nothing satanic or demonic about it.
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If you knew, you would have a radically different perspective on your Dad.
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I do know punkin, I sat in the outer room of the lodge and heard everything that went on in the meetings.
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Hey OP did you find his cypher? Seriously, look for it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20507216


I will see what I have. I have a trunk with all of his important papers in it, he passed away recently. He was a 33rd degree Mason for over 40 years.
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


Look for a large blue Masonic Bible.
Chances are he'll have one.
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


I do have that.
Don't put the keys to your happiness in someone else's pocket...
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Hey OP did you find his cypher? Seriously, look for it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20507216


I will see what I have. I have a trunk with all of his important papers in it, he passed away recently. He was a 33rd degree Mason for over 40 years.
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


Look for a large blue Masonic Bible.
Chances are he'll have one.
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


I do have that.
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


Ok, in that Masonic Bible... Open it and read.
There are very important differences between the Word of God and that "bible".

If you can distinguish between them, you'll know why the perspective will change.

And I'm sorry to hear about your Dad, my Adopted Grandfather and Grandma were both in for over 30 years...

Last Edited by Occasionally Swears on 10/23/2013 02:27 PM
I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on.

- Battle Hymn of the Republic
-------------------------------------
James 3:6-9

And the tongue [is] a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.

For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind.

But no man can tame the tongue. [It is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God.
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My Grandfather and his brother were very high up in the Masons ...
His brother was head of the Masons in his area ..( forget was he was called I think Grand master or something like that? ).
They put me in Jobs daughters as a teen in the mid 80s.
I didn't feel right about it seemed like a cult ( hated the rituals I was not allowed to talk of the things that went on in the group and so I quit even though my dear friend was a JD Queen ( she later died of a brain aneurism - I still know her children now ) .

When I was a teenager my Grandfather told me
that I will see many things in my lifetime signs and wonders . I saw a blue flashing light in the sky in 2011 and thought of his words ...he told me aliens were real . he told me I could use my mind to see into things . both sides of my family go back to America 1600's and on my fathers side they were always involved with the Masons . Grandfather told me that they were the true builders and that I was a daughter of the revolution . this interested me and i kept listening to him as I love learning of history .
He told me the end was near and attempted to hypnotize me to see events and put me under . I was young and innocent then and didn't know what he was doing .
At one point I woke up screaming and ran and told my father who prayed over me and got very upset at my Grandfather . . This really created a negative breech in the family that i felt guilty about . My parents were elders in a Christian church ( Jack Hayford was the pastor and a good friend of my Dads ) I knew I had to run away from him though and did on one camping trip . I didn't like that he wanted to put me under to see
things . It creeped me out !

I remember this one thing he told me vividly .
Grandfather told me around the age of 16 that I would see the world as we know it come to an end in my lifetime but that he would not live to see it . this has always haunted me .
 Quoting: Apocalypse Girl


bsflag

VERY FEW people make it to 33rd degree. Anybody who makes 33rd degree would NEVER reveal anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48791395


Have you ever been in a lodge? Because your statement is light years away from the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47491467


My daddy was a Mason and was the most Christian man I know, he didn't talk it, he walked it. Never a bad word was said about him. I grew up in the Lodge, I was in the Rainbow Organization for young girls and was
actually the state president. Everything was based on the Bible and very reverent. It taught young ladies self respect and confidence. I detest these threads from people who have no clue what goes on trying to degrade some of the finest people I have ever known.
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


Your daddy was a lower level mason. They are entirely about deception. I have no doubt that your dad was a great guy, but he was part of a group that purposely deceives its lower ranking members.
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You're right. Whether you're telling the truth or not the world as we know it is coming to an end. It's pretty hard to swallow for some people, but please, don't believe in aliens, they are actually demons, or spirits. They don't come from another planet but from another dimension. Whether you are Christian or not, they are interdimensional beings. Can you tell more about when will it happen?
 Quoting: shyrlymyrly


I have always had in the back of my mind that the aliens were demons or angels? ...that the grey and reptilians were demonic and that the tall blonde white haired ones were angels ? I dunno maybe cause I was raised in a Christian church ? I honestly don't know for sure I just try and keep and open heart and mind .
 Quoting: Apocalypse Girl


Just be safe. I think your grandpa was into occult. I know from my own experience how occultism and witchcraft changes people. I can imagine how you feel about your grandpa, cause my grandma is into witchcraft, well she is a witch. What you said about your grandpa staring into your eyes reminds me of what happened with my mom. When she was little, one old man that lived in their little village did the same thing that your grandpa did with you. He stared in her eyes for an hour or even longer without blinking. He was known as a sorcerer, he was very into occult, but he wasn't a bad man. Anyway, he wanted to give her his knowledge and powers. He said that she will have superpowers. My mom ran away from him.
 Quoting: shyrlymyrly


thank you for sharing ... yes good that she ran away ! .. Funny thing is my grandfather was a Baptist and aa very loving man but I think he dabbled into hypnotism and dark matters. My Father almost disowned him because of it ... he was very loud and never stopped talking ( sales type ) .
 Quoting: Apocalypse Girl


Maybe your grandpa was Rosicrucian? They can dabble in occult and in Christianity at the same time. They embrace all the religions. Actually, Rosicrucianism has strong ties with Freemasonry.
I'm a bibletard, sorry for the inconvenience.
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Hey OP did you find his cypher? Seriously, look for it
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My Granfather moved into my Aunts house . and he died in her care . All his belongings went to my aunt and cousins when she passed away . My aunt and cousins are strict bible thumping Christians and didn't agree with Masonry . There was a Grandfather clock of his I wanted dating from the 1600s ( one like it is in the white house- it came around the horn of south America in a ship to get here in the 1800s my G G G Grandfather was one of the first doctors in SF who brought it over ) ... I was sad it went to the other side of the family I didn't they they would cherish it like I would have .
Apocalypse ( "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted.
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The great majority of people that knows 33rd degree Masons are bullshiters...
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I will see what I have. I have a trunk with all of his important papers in it, he passed away recently. He was a 33rd degree Mason for over 40 years.
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


Look for a large blue Masonic Bible.
Chances are he'll have one.
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


I do have that.
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


Ok, in that Masonic Bible... Open it and read.
There are very important differences between the Word of God and that "bible".

If you can distinguish between them, you'll know why the perspective will change.

And I'm sorry to hear about your Dad, my Adopted Grandfather and Grandma were both in for over 30 years...
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


I have been a bible scholar for years and have studied several translations.... I will take a look at it. As a Rainbow Girl and as the president for the state or Grand Worthy Advisor as it was called, I also have a large altar bible that was given to me. It is however, the King James Version. Thank you for your interest and I will take a look tonight.
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I have always had in the back of my mind that the aliens were demons or angels? ...that the grey and reptilians were demonic and that the tall blonde white haired ones were angels ? I dunno maybe cause I was raised in a Christian church ? I honestly don't know for sure I just try and keep and open heart and mind .
 Quoting: Apocalypse Girl


Just be safe. I think your grandpa was into occult. I know from my own experience how occultism and witchcraft changes people. I can imagine how you feel about your grandpa, cause my grandma is into witchcraft, well she is a witch. What you said about your grandpa staring into your eyes reminds me of what happened with my mom. When she was little, one old man that lived in their little village did the same thing that your grandpa did with you. He stared in her eyes for an hour or even longer without blinking. He was known as a sorcerer, he was very into occult, but he wasn't a bad man. Anyway, he wanted to give her his knowledge and powers. He said that she will have superpowers. My mom ran away from him.
 Quoting: shyrlymyrly


thank you for sharing ... yes good that she ran away ! .. Funny thing is my grandfather was a Baptist and aa very loving man but I think he dabbled into hypnotism and dark matters. My Father almost disowned him because of it ... he was very loud and never stopped talking ( sales type ) .
 Quoting: Apocalypse Girl


Maybe your grandpa was Rosicrucian? They can dabble in occult and in Christianity at the same time. They embrace all the religions. Actually, Rosicrucianism has strong ties with Freemasonry.
 Quoting: shyrlymyrly


sounds like that could have been something like what he was into ? I dunno My Dad and Mom didn't want me to talk of it as they were strong Christian leaders in the church . I just remember them talking about my great uncle and saying he is in DEEP ... i didn't understand it at the time .
Apocalypse ( "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted.
* know the truth and the truth will set you free
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bsflag

VERY FEW people make it to 33rd degree. Anybody who makes 33rd degree would NEVER reveal anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48791395


Have you ever been in a lodge? Because your statement is light years away from the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47491467


My daddy was a Mason and was the most Christian man I know, he didn't talk it, he walked it. Never a bad word was said about him. I grew up in the Lodge, I was in the Rainbow Organization for young girls and was
actually the state president. Everything was based on the Bible and very reverent. It taught young ladies self respect and confidence. I detest these threads from people who have no clue what goes on trying to degrade some of the finest people I have ever known.
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


Your daddy was a lower level mason. They are entirely about deception. I have no doubt that your dad was a great guy, but he was part of a group that purposely deceives its lower ranking members.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48812144


I could understand that because the men that befriended my father and family were fine upstanding men who gave to the community, supported each others family and were just good people. However, as I have gotten older I have learned that there are always people above that have different motives than the majority. The world is not as beautiful a place as it seems.
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The great majority of people that knows 33rd degree Masons are bullshiters...
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yeah he was a bullshitter !!! BIG MOUTH talker but he got very serious when he told me I would see things come to pass ... it scared me i went home crying . I really dont even like to talk of or think of it ... was hard for me to write this all today to be honest I wondered if it could get me into trouble ( maybe why i was afraid to write of it before ) ...:(

Last Edited by Apocalypse Girl on 10/23/2013 02:32 PM
Apocalypse ( "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted.
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The great majority of people that knows 33rd degree Masons are bullshiters...
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Perhaps I should post some pictures of his degrees... I'm not bs'ing
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The great majority of people that knows 33rd degree Masons are bullshiters...
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yeah he was a bullshitter !!! BIG MOUTH talker but he got very serious when he told me I would see things come to pass ... it scared me i went home crying . I really dont even like to talk of or think of it ... was hard for me to write this all today to be honest .
 Quoting: Apocalypse Girl


I'm so sorry your experience was so bad. It was so the opposite for me. And I know how hard it is talk about things on here because people slam you left and right. This is the first time I have ever spoken of my affiliation with Masonry because I knew I would be slapped. But your post touched me. There are good and bad in everything. I guess it is what part you choose to participate in that makes the experience different.
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The great majority of people that knows 33rd degree Masons are bullshiters...
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Perhaps I should post some pictures of his degrees... I'm not bs'ing
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


I believe you ...

oh and by the way my Mom hangs out with her rainbow girls and they are all old now and travel to places in groups all the sweetest ladies you ever could meet ! love them ALL !

Last Edited by Apocalypse Girl on 10/23/2013 02:35 PM
Apocalypse ( "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted.
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Look for a large blue Masonic Bible.
Chances are he'll have one.
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


I do have that.
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


Ok, in that Masonic Bible... Open it and read.
There are very important differences between the Word of God and that "bible".

If you can distinguish between them, you'll know why the perspective will change.

And I'm sorry to hear about your Dad, my Adopted Grandfather and Grandma were both in for over 30 years...
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


I have been a bible scholar for years and have studied several translations.... I will take a look at it. As a Rainbow Girl and as the president for the state or Grand Worthy Advisor as it was called, I also have a large altar bible that was given to me. It is however, the King James Version. Thank you for your interest and I will take a look tonight.
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


Just to be sure we're on the same page, this is what I'm referring to:

[link to media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com]


Something like this, probably a hardback.
Will probably be very old, and might be in slight tatters.
Will include pictures of Solomon's temple, along with a plethora of other pictures of oldworld scenes.

Pay attention to symbols and meanings.

Last Edited by Occasionally Swears on 10/23/2013 02:36 PM
I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on.

- Battle Hymn of the Republic
-------------------------------------
James 3:6-9

And the tongue [is] a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.

For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind.

But no man can tame the tongue. [It is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God.
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Just be safe. I think your grandpa was into occult. I know from my own experience how occultism and witchcraft changes people. I can imagine how you feel about your grandpa, cause my grandma is into witchcraft, well she is a witch. What you said about your grandpa staring into your eyes reminds me of what happened with my mom. When she was little, one old man that lived in their little village did the same thing that your grandpa did with you. He stared in her eyes for an hour or even longer without blinking. He was known as a sorcerer, he was very into occult, but he wasn't a bad man. Anyway, he wanted to give her his knowledge and powers. He said that she will have superpowers. My mom ran away from him.
 Quoting: shyrlymyrly


thank you for sharing ... yes good that she ran away ! .. Funny thing is my grandfather was a Baptist and aa very loving man but I think he dabbled into hypnotism and dark matters. My Father almost disowned him because of it ... he was very loud and never stopped talking ( sales type ) .
 Quoting: Apocalypse Girl


Maybe your grandpa was Rosicrucian? They can dabble in occult and in Christianity at the same time. They embrace all the religions. Actually, Rosicrucianism has strong ties with Freemasonry.
 Quoting: shyrlymyrly


sounds like that could have been something like what he was into ? I dunno My Dad and Mom didn't want me to talk of it as they were strong Christian leaders in the church . I just remember them talking about my great uncle and saying he is in DEEP ... i didn't understand it at the time .
 Quoting: Apocalypse Girl



I wish you the very best. I thank you for putting this info out cause I can imagine how hard it may be. Only thing we can do is to pray. God bless, be strong. hf
I'm a bibletard, sorry for the inconvenience.
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The great majority of people that knows 33rd degree Masons are bullshiters...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48798725


Perhaps I should post some pictures of his degrees... I'm not bs'ing
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


I believe you ...

oh and by the way my Mom hangs out with her rainbow girls and they are all old now and travels in groups all the sweetest ladies you ever could meet ! love them ALL !
 Quoting: Apocalypse Girl


LOL! I am 45 and I keep up with my chicks. We get together with our children, for weddings and during the hard times as well. A whole group of us just got together when a friend's mother passed away last week and cooked for the family. I imagine we are going to funny old ladies in a few years!!
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Hey OP did you find his cypher? Seriously, look for it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20507216


I will see what I have. I have a trunk with all of his important papers in it, he passed away recently. He was a 33rd degree Mason for over 40 years.
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


I ask becaue t his is the "key". most are destroyed so they don't bring heat scores
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I do have that.
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


Ok, in that Masonic Bible... Open it and read.
There are very important differences between the Word of God and that "bible".

If you can distinguish between them, you'll know why the perspective will change.

And I'm sorry to hear about your Dad, my Adopted Grandfather and Grandma were both in for over 30 years...
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


I have been a bible scholar for years and have studied several translations.... I will take a look at it. As a Rainbow Girl and as the president for the state or Grand Worthy Advisor as it was called, I also have a large altar bible that was given to me. It is however, the King James Version. Thank you for your interest and I will take a look tonight.
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


Just to be sure we're on the same page, this is what I'm referring to:

[link to media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com]


Something like this, probably a hardback.
Will include pictures of Solomon's temple, along with a plethora of other pictures of oldworld scenes.

Pay attention to symbols and meanings.
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


Yes I am familiar with what it looks like... I remember as a child seeing the signs in the front. I will look at it more closely. I am not saying I don't believe that there may have been ulterior motives for some portion... I just know where my father's heart was. So many will say I am naive for saying that... but I was very close to my father, he was 45 when I was born and he was the kindest, gentlest man I have ever known. He owned a small jewelry store and was a watchmaker by trade and was notorious for fixing things for people and not charging a dime. What a blessing.
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My Grandfather and his brother were very high up in the Masons ...
His brother was head of the Masons in his area ..( forget was he was called I think Grand master or something like that? ).
They put me in Jobs daughters as a teen in the mid 80s.
I didn't feel right about it seemed like a cult ( hated the rituals I was not allowed to talk of the things that went on in the group and so I quit even though my dear friend was a JD Queen ( she later died of a brain aneurism - I still know her children now ) .

When I was a teenager my Grandfather told me
that I will see many things in my lifetime signs and wonders . I saw a blue flashing light in the sky in 2011 and thought of his words ...he told me aliens were real . he told me I could use my mind to see into things . both sides of my family go back to America 1600's and on my fathers side they were always involved with the Masons . Grandfather told me that they were the true builders and that I was a daughter of the revolution . this interested me and i kept listening to him as I love learning of history .
He told me the end was near and attempted to hypnotize me to see events and put me under . I was young and innocent then and didn't know what he was doing .
At one point I woke up screaming and ran and told my father who prayed over me and got very upset at my Grandfather . . This really created a negative breech in the family that i felt guilty about . My parents were elders in a Christian church ( Jack Hayford was the pastor and a good friend of my Dads ) I knew I had to run away from him though and did on one camping trip . I didn't like that he wanted to put me under to see things . It creeped me out !

I remember this one thing he told me vividly .
Grandfather told me around the age of 16 that I would see the world as we know it come to an end in my lifetime but that he would not live to see it . this has always haunted me .
 Quoting: Apocalypse Girl


Ahem ... did your grandfather tell you "Caucasians are the BEAST OF REVELATION"?

He should have ... thats one of the many "secrets" they teach in the white FreeMason lodges!
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Hey OP did you find his cypher? Seriously, look for it
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I will see what I have. I have a trunk with all of his important papers in it, he passed away recently. He was a 33rd degree Mason for over 40 years.
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I ask becaue t his is the "key". most are destroyed so they don't bring heat scores
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hf
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Hey OP did you find his cypher? Seriously, look for it
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My Granfather moved into my Aunts house . and he died in her care . All his belongings went to my aunt and cousins when she passed away . My aunt and cousins are strict bible thumping Christians and didn't agree with Masonry . There was a Grandfather clock of his I wanted dating from the 1600s ( one like it is in the white house- it came around the horn of south America in a ship to get here in the 1800s my G G G Grandfather was one of the first doctors in SF who brought it over ) ... I was sad it went to the other side of the family I didn't they they would cherish it like I would have .
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Strange you say "bible thumpers" in nugatory language. A lot of masons back in the day were devout until the church clamped down (again)
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Did he bother to explain what exactly these chsnges are going to be? Since Illuminati are planning to kill billions of people, it is interesting to hear your grandfather saying that you will get to see wonders and change of times..
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Hey OP did you find his cypher? Seriously, look for it
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My Granfather moved into my Aunts house . and he died in her care . All his belongings went to my aunt and cousins when she passed away . My aunt and cousins are strict bible thumping Christians and didn't agree with Masonry . There was a Grandfather clock of his I wanted dating from the 1600s ( one like it is in the white house- it came around the horn of south America in a ship to get here in the 1800s my G G G Grandfather was one of the first doctors in SF who brought it over ) ... I was sad it went to the other side of the family I didn't they they would cherish it like I would have .
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Strange you say "bible thumpers" in nugatory language. A lot of masons back in the day were devout until the church clamped down (again)
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I dont go to church anymore but love God in my heart , too much BS out there got burned out in the church . I believe in what the Bible has to say ( I went to Bible college in the 80s ) ... but now I believe you can be a believer without going to church ( too many warped systems out there hard to trust anymore ) .
Apocalypse ( "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted.
* know the truth and the truth will set you free
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Did he bother to explain what exactly these chsnges are going to be? Since Illuminati are planning to kill billions of people, it is interesting to hear your grandfather saying that you will get to see wonders and change of times..
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I asked him . he told me there were things he could not tell me and to read the book I revelations ( he was trying to not upset my parents sticking with the bible i think ? ) ... I didn't understand the book of Rev as a teen it was hard to begin to understand at that time . he said I was born into a very interesting time . I look around now and go hmmmm...
Apocalypse ( "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted.
* know the truth and the truth will set you free
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Well,

true or not..It is sure the masson created this nation. It is sure that their intentions was to rule the world. Even a 5 degree can see it.

The other thing that need knowledge to understand it is :

Lucifer always wanted to encapsulate god....

Look at the masson squre and compass...you will understand that the G stand for God and the the squale and the compass are "L"s that stand for Lucifer....
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The Verb is always encapsulated in the Word.

It's our desire for it that is in question.
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My Grandfather and his brother were very high up in the Masons ...
His brother was head of the Masons in his area ..( forget was he was called I think Grand master or something like that? ).
They put me in Jobs daughters as a teen in the mid 80s.
I didn't feel right about it seemed like a cult ( hated the rituals I was not allowed to talk of the things that went on in the group and so I quit even though my dear friend was a JD Queen ( she later died of a brain aneurism - I still know her children now ) .

When I was a teenager my Grandfather told me
that I will see many things in my lifetime signs and wonders . I saw a blue flashing light in the sky in 2011 and thought of his words ...he told me aliens were real . he told me I could use my mind to see into things . both sides of my family go back to America 1600's and on my fathers side they were always involved with the Masons . Grandfather told me that they were the true builders and that I was a daughter of the revolution . this interested me and i kept listening to him as I love learning of history .
He told me the end was near and attempted to hypnotize me to see events and put me under . I was young and innocent then and didn't know what he was doing .
At one point I woke up screaming and ran and told my father who prayed over me and got very upset at my Grandfather . . This really created a negative breech in the family that i felt guilty about . My parents were elders in a Christian church ( Jack Hayford was the pastor and a good friend of my Dads ) I knew I had to run away from him though and did on one camping trip . I didn't like that he wanted to put me under to see things . It creeped me out !

I remember this one thing he told me vividly .
Grandfather told me around the age of 16 that I would see the world as we know it come to an end in my lifetime but that he would not live to see it . this has always haunted me .
 Quoting: Apocalypse Girl


Ahem ... did your grandfather tell you "Caucasians are the BEAST OF REVELATION"?

He should have ... thats one of the many "secrets" they teach in the white FreeMason lodges!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48493808


no he said if i wanted to know secrets i would have to be hypnotized . he only hypnotized me once or twice and it FREAKED ME OUT !!! like i said i woke up screaming . and crying and told my Dad and my Dad would not talk to him for like a year and it made me feel guilty !!! :( I was only like 14- 16 then ...
Apocalypse ( "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted.
* know the truth and the truth will set you free
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Hey OP did you find his cypher? Seriously, look for it
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My Granfather moved into my Aunts house . and he died in her care . All his belongings went to my aunt and cousins when she passed away . My aunt and cousins are strict bible thumping Christians and didn't agree with Masonry . There was a Grandfather clock of his I wanted dating from the 1600s ( one like it is in the white house- it came around the horn of south America in a ship to get here in the 1800s my G G G Grandfather was one of the first doctors in SF who brought it over ) ... I was sad it went to the other side of the family I didn't they they would cherish it like I would have .
 Quoting: Apocalypse Girl


Strange you say "bible thumpers" in nugatory language. A lot of masons back in the day were devout until the church clamped down (again)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20507216


I dont go to church anymore but love God in my heart , too much BS out there got burned out in the church . I believe in what the Bible has to say ( I went to Bible college in the 80s ) ... but now I believe you can be a believer without going to church ( too many warped systems out there hard to trust anymore ) .
 Quoting: Apocalypse Girl


If that's your true intent, you won't like church anyway, they're heavily infiltrated by legionaires

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