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This Video is from June 2011 with Klaus Dona!
This Artefact is no fake...believe me!
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fake or not its boring, arid, colorless, drab, dreary, drudging, dry, dull, dusty, flat, heavy, ho-hum, humdrum, jading, jejune, leaden, mind-numbing, monochromatic, monotonous, numbing, old, pedestrian, ponderous, slow, stale, stodgy, stuffy, stupid, tame, tedious, tiresome, tiring, uninteresting, wearisome, weary, wearying..

did I miss anything out ?
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Clumsy, copybook, derivative, uninspired, naive, hokey, sophomoric and ridiculous.
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Yes. You forgot trite.

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"this point may now seem obvious and trite"

synonyms: banal, hackneyed, clichéd, platitudinous, vapid, commonplace, stock, conventional, stereotyped, overused, overdone, overworked, stale, worn out, timeworn, tired, hoary, hack, unimaginative, unoriginal, uninteresting, dull, uninvolving.
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Hoax........and of course promoted by a hoaxer.
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I agree. Someone on either side of the fence should link the suitable documentation for their side of the argument.
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Okay.

Anyone who is interested in substantuating this pathetic crap as anything other than fake junk is invited to join the following discussion group, which is devoted to the exact art and science of authenticating or repudiating "ancient artifacts". They are especially keen on exposing the numerous sellers of fake antiquities on ebay and other online venues.

Some of the world's leading dealers of authentic artifacts participate in discussion here.

Please join this group:

[link to groups.yahoo.com]

Then invite discussion of the "artifacts" presented.

Good luck.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


And this group discusses this particular claim?

quote from their group rules..

"After a decade of efforts by dedicated collectors and dealers, at long last an improvement is apparent in the eBay antiquities section. At times as many as 95% of the items in certain categories were fake, but finally someone has taken notice of us, and the worst sellers have been ejected.

This certainly doesn't mean that if you buy an 'ancient' item on eBay now that you can be assured of its authenticity, but as of July 2009 things are suddenly looking SO much better.

We're an open group and very broad based in the range of subjects that we like to talk about, but NO POLITICS PLEASE, since we are a peaceful tribe and greatly dislike flame wars.

Any artefact dating from China's Ming Dynasty or earlier is sufficiently 'ancient' to attract our interest."

Now again, instead of presenting a forum discussion group that focuses on online fakes as your authority on these Mexican artefact fakes please verify scientifically your disclaimer that it is 'pathetic crap' which is of course, your value judgement. in addition, please provide the scientific evidence that these are indeed fakes and post your photos of traders selling them on trinket markets in Mexico.

Thank you in advance.
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I directed you where to go to present the fake crap for discussion by experts in the field of antiquities.

Of course I do not expect you or any other "true believers" to take my word on it, as I am not an expert in the field, simply an enthusiast of Precolumbian art and artifacts.

So present the crap to some real experts, then report back here!

As with all antiquities, the burden of proof so far as authentification lies upon the one who proposes it as genuine, not upon the one doubting it! It takes provenance, documentation, and scientific analysis to prove that something IS real.

The burden of proof is upon you, not upon me or upon anyone else who doubts or scoffs at this idiotic crap.

The tourist crap is prima facie F A K E to anyone with even a glancing familiarity with the real stuff.
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Okay point accepted on to be discussed by experts in the field on that crap, but you are still making an unsubstantiated claim that it is crap, that is your opinion and I respect that. So we can agree to disagree on whether expert opinions on a forum will eventually demonstrate your claim to be true after they have provided evidence that they have conducted scientific tests to demonstrate that every single artefact (even those that are being sold on trinket markets are fakes) is in fact a fake.

Sorry but the burden of proof lies on you proving your claim that they are fakes so please provide the evidence that every single artefact that is being sold is a fake

Now, please post the photos...

In addition, considering your argument that the burden of proof so far as authentication lies upon the one who proposes it as genuine, can I cite the Turin Shroud as an example of experts insisting it is genuine up until scientific proof was published that it is indeed a fake?

Thank you for your participation in this demonstration that what you believe to be true is based on opinion and not scientific evidence.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but those so called "artifacts" are fake
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Pathetic fakes at that.

Anyone with even a passing familiarity with Precolumbian art would laugh at them.

This piece of crap video has been around for a while.

Meanwhile in Mexico, there is a thriving trade in handcarved JUNK trinkets like these sold to tourists.
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Argentina is a little slow in getting their news. Damn stubborn donkeys and llamas take forever to hoof it around.

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The nazis put something in the water of Argentina that limits the Argies average growth to Maradona's size.



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Finally it is happening!!! Mexican governments are REVEALING Alien artifacts and objects as first state in the world!!

All info and videos taken from:
[link to alternanews.net]

Excerpt:
Mayan secrets of alien connection to be unmasked by Mexican Government in ’2013′?

Recently there has been a substantial amount of suspicious fascination with what is apparently full disclosure from the Mexican government in regards to never before seen Mayan items obviously depicting aliens and spacecraft.


Press-conference Presentation by scientists of the Alien Artifacts disclosed by Mexican Governments:


The Mexican government is delivering state-held secrets about the end-of the Mayan calendar. The information — secured for 80 years — is likely to reveal Mayan values in future catastrophes and wisdom known as ‘scary.’

‘The Mayans used to make one pyramid over another,’ tourist minister for the Mexican state of Campeche Luis Augusto Garcia Rosado told TheWrap. ‘In the website at Calakmul, workers for INAH [the National Institute of Anthropology and History] have identified areas in the pyramid that have never been observed or explored before.
bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag





This stuff was secured for 80 years because it took 80 years to make all this phony. Stuff.

Visual presentation of all artifacts in high definition and quality:



Full story: [link to alternanews.net]

This is some AMAZING stuff!! Does this mean the good guys are getting into the power and the elite???
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Is R.e.u.t.e.r.s trustworthy??

Search for this headline, from 26 Sep 2011....
Mayan Documentary Will Show Evidence of Alien Contact, Says Mexico (Exclusive)

or here [link to www.theguardian.com]
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Great Scott!!!!
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ok ... let's lemming ourselves right off the edge of flat earth into oblivion.

Maya means illusion ... a pseudo-reality ... illusiory ...

... send your scary stories back to sender ...
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Finally it is happening!!! Mexican governments are REVEALING Alien artifacts and objects as first state in the world!!

All info and videos taken from:
[link to alternanews.net]

Excerpt:
Mayan secrets of alien connection to be unmasked by Mexican Government in ’2013′?

Recently there has been a substantial amount of suspicious fascination with what is apparently full disclosure from the Mexican government in regards to never before seen Mayan items obviously depicting aliens and spacecraft.


Press-conference Presentation by scientists of the Alien Artifacts disclosed by Mexican Governments:


The Mexican government is delivering state-held secrets about the end-of the Mayan calendar. The information — secured for 80 years — is likely to reveal Mayan values in future catastrophes and wisdom known as ‘scary.’

‘The Mayans used to make one pyramid over another,’ tourist minister for the Mexican state of Campeche Luis Augusto Garcia Rosado told TheWrap. ‘In the website at Calakmul, workers for INAH [the National Institute of Anthropology and History] have identified areas in the pyramid that have never been observed or explored before.

Visual presentation of all artifacts in high definition and quality:



Full story: [link to alternanews.net]

This is some AMAZING stuff!! Does this mean the good guys are getting into the power and the elite???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20118546


They said the exact same thing last year and didn't do a fucking thing...

jerkit
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Is R.e.u.t.e.r.s trustworthy??

Search for this headline, from 26 Sep 2011....
Mayan Documentary Will Show Evidence of Alien Contact, Says Mexico (Exclusive)

or here [link to www.theguardian.com]
 Quoting: VeraFromChorley



Thursday 29 September 2011

"Producer Raul Julia-Levy said the documentary-makers were working in cooperation with the Mexican government for what he said was "the good of mankind". He said the order to collaborate had come directly from the country's president, Álvaro Colom Caballeros.

"Mexico will release codices, artefacts and significant documents with evidence of Mayan and extraterrestrial contact, and all of their information will be corroborated by archaeologists," he said. "The Mexican government is not making this statement on their own – everything we say, we're going to back it up."
 Quoting: [link to www.theguardian.com]


Hmmmm lets see... Article from 2011, we're turning 2014 but nothing was released by the Mexican government.

If my memory serves me Raul Julia-Levy is Raul Julia's son, and probably tried to pull a stunt with this story to grab some attention and money from Hollywood. I guess it didn't work.

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Nassin Haramein probably harmed his credibility by jumping aboard Jaime Maussan bandwagon.

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ABSOLUTELY FAKE !!!!!!!!!
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1st Old video seen it many years ago and 2nd video the person that adds stupid music and other bs needs to be slapped twice.
As with many youtube videos, people cannot narrate, or talk or just let the background sound be natural they need to edit in some annoying music, I usually will not watch more than 20 seconds of that jibberish.
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you do realize that that video was released over a year ago? and relatively after that there was a huge triangle dark spot on the sun that happened before that video with that planet sized plasma that shot away from the sun at rapid speed, i think it was february of this year that another triangular dark spot showed its self.

just thought i would point that out. oh and i keep repeating myself on this. this is one of the signs of the return of the destroyer. the other two signs are cave paintings depicting dead animals everywhere, look around not hard to figure that one out. the third is cave/rock paintings depicting spirals. norway spiral.

so yea dont be surprised if ison ends up being the blue/red cachina (hoppi prophecy)
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Did anyone catch my post?

First, this is 'old'.

Second, see this:





[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]



If you watched the video of the artifacts you should know what I'm talking about.

its actually at the cover of the first youtube video
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I made a thread about it (two threads actually) back then.

Thread: Black Triangle on the sun predicted by mayans!


Ok, take a look at this formation on the sun on early March: [link to www.youtube.com]
That was right before the huge solar storm that hit Earth (and other 6 planets if I'm right): [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Now for time impressive stuff!
This video is about mayan artifacts that were discovered recently, pause it at 10:10 and analyze the carvings on the stone: [link to www.youtube.com]


I pointed this out at another thread of mine, but I believe its too important and it should have its own thread!

Anyways, my other thread, which is a very interesting read: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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In addition, considering your argument that the burden of proof so far as authentication lies upon the one who proposes it as genuine, can I cite the Turin Shroud as an example of experts insisting it is genuine up until scientific proof was published that it is indeed a fake?

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The shroud of Turin has been "published" as both real, and as fake for many decades.

The accounts of it being "real" tend to be faith based, whereas accounts of it as "fake" tend to be based on scientific analysis.

The shroud has a provenance going back to about the 12th or 13th century, and none earlier.

As always, with any ancient artifact, the burden of proof lies with the one positing it as authentic. Judgement defaults to fake.

It takes hellacious provenance AND rigourous scientific examination to verify -- authenticate -- any ancient artifact; and all the moreso with anomalous or nontypical "finds".

No one needs to go through the billions of tourist trinkets that are obviously made by modern tools and methods to prove each and every one a fake.

On the other hand, somebody finding a few boring rough pottery shards for sale for a couple dollars at a Texas flea market might actually have a few pieces of old indian pottery there. Little motive would exist to fake it. We know that millions of Indians lived in Texas over a period of several thousand years, and that they used a lot of pottery.

But extraordinary pieces require extraordinary documentation, testing, and verification. This "alien disclosure" artifact crap falls pathetically short in all aspects.


If someone "wants to believe" in fanciful, unprovenanced, unsubstantiated pseudoartifacts, then not all of the discussion about it with recognised experts is going to dissuade him. Common sense won't dissuade him either.

Swindlers will take his money, but thus was it ever so.

Sad thing about this whole discussion is -- authentic Precolumbian art and artifacts are mind boggling, stunningly hallucinatory and mesmerising in design, touching the deep realms of the psyche.

Don't get pulled away from the real experience of studying precolumbian art and culture!
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True that. At some point though, as you exemplify in the pottery analogy, I suspect that something real is out there, yet to be kicked over in some field.

Fakes for bucks are as old as Babylon itself, aside I still postulate that as in the UFO argument ..If just one is real.

Therein is the thin ice we both tread.

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loved seeing this today I was completely mesmerized thank you so much for sharing it made my day!
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I have to say this is some impressive and surprising news, didnt see this coming!

So will the rest of the world follow in Mexicos steps and do we see full disclosure coming now?????????
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this^^^
i have to say, i have never had such a creepy sense of deja vu!! I swear i have read this post verbatim a year or two ago. had to double check the date of the thread. spooky.
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wait a minute these videos are over a year old and have been on glp multiple times before.

what gives?
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agonizingly slow news day
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WOW this is some HUGE NEWS for once!!!

PIN SUGGESTED 5 STARS!!

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lol

Yeah pin this very old news that includes the fraudster Raul Julia-Levy



You tards never learn, but I would love to sell you some 'alien artifacts' just 29.99!
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Added to favs for later viewing, looks to be very interesting!
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This is an OLD video, but good non the less.
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For those claiming .... IT'S FAKE ... where is YOUR PROOF that its fake?

I tend to believe these are geniune for personal reasons.

In the late 70s, my father was working in a senior position in the Belizean government. Belize borders both Mexico (in the North) and Guatemala (in the West). Belize has many historical OLMEC structures.

To make a long story short, in the late 70s, there was a team of British archaelogist that was escavated Altun Ha (a Olmec pyramid structure near the Mexican border built by the OLMECS).

My father witness, catalogued and photographed SIMILAR ARTIFACTS as shown on the video (on behalf of the Belizean government). The artifacts were later authorized (by the Prime Minister) to be taken to England for forensic examination.

My father retired in 1998, and as of that time, most of the artifacts were NEVER RETURNED. The Belize government is bought and paid for by England, so whenever my father would enquire about the artifacts, he was repeatedly told "the artifacts are being examined".

Point is ... I wouldn't be so quick to holler ... "FAKE".
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...idiot
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Sorry to burst your bubble but those so called "artifacts" are fake
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Hey there please provide a link to your claim
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Sweet music! Almond shaped eyes, and mushroom caps, don't make me immediately think of aliens.
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OP ran away of shame back to Buenos Aires like 4 hrs ago and this crap still pinned.

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I have to say this is some impressive and surprising news, didnt see this coming!

So will the rest of the world follow in Mexicos steps and do we see full disclosure coming now?????????
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Pathetic fakes at that.

Anyone with even a passing familiarity with Precolumbian art would laugh at them.

This piece of crap video has been around for a while.

Meanwhile in Mexico, there is a thriving trade in handcarved JUNK trinkets like these sold to tourists.
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I expect and predict this thread to have most chills of all time passingh through.. LOL

Actually I know a archaeologist in Mexico, and I traveled a lot there myself with him doing some research, he confirmed to me that this IS going on and that they ARE authentic as far he can tell.
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Cool story bro.

Now can you provide any link to ACTUAL and AUTHENTIC documents or website of the Mexican government corroborating your claim????
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rofl5:fullretard1:





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