Persecution of the REAL Christians will be FROM THE CHURCH!

If your church is teaching "Joel's Army" get OUT now.

Do not let anyone lay hands on you!

Brother,

You talking about Joel Olsteen, the to tell a vision/tv preacher?

No, brother. You need to listen to the Youtube I posted.

It's a belief in the charismatic churches that there will be an invincible "Joel's Army" raised up from within the church that will purify the church of non-charismatics. Scary, scary, stuff.

Of course, not all charismatic churches teach that, not by a long shot, but it is a twisted doctrine that does seem to be gaining prominence.

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Interesting...

It stems from the other two main self centered dpctrines.

Rapture doctrine.."Im a special "Coward"..I dont deserve to suffer because im just too holy...God will save me from any suffering"

The Bless me doctrine" Im a special "son/daughter" of the Lord..I dont deserve to be poor and miserable like those nasty "Sinners"..God will make me rich"

Now...the "Kill those who are not as "Special" as me doctrine"...Im so saved and so SPECIAL..I have been commisioned by the ord to kill all those who are not as "Holy" as me"..

ALL SELF..all EVIL..all for COWARDLY KILLERS.

Darkness is as darkness does.

Darkness LOVES to use the bible for EVIL.

I agree with you OP. It's a State/Church mixture and as such the truth gets

thrown out in favor of worldly compromise. And the Jews are replaced by _________________________________________________ (Fill in the blank.)

I am in the library and the sound is shut off, so I will save this and listen to this later when my laptop arrives here shortly.

MJ

'Real Christians' don't go to church, they ARE the church! Read your Bibles...

Me thinks these kinds of people are plants to radicalise Christianity and to portray it as a violent religion in order in squash it.
Now in order to radicalise it they have to twist scripture to do so. It is very clear in the words of Yeshua that anyone who lives by the sword will die by the sword. Paul also said what we are fighting against is spiritual not flesh. And also if we follow Yeshua we are to be martyrs (not the muslim kind).

But what difference does truth make to the masses, they will blindly parrot that religions are the cause of wars without knowing the words of Yeshua. They will throw the baby with the bathwater.

Give any Scriptural evidence for the claim that Islam will rule the world. I read in my Bible that it will be a one-world religion.

People who go overboard on "the Muslim threat" tend also, in my experience, to believe the 911 fairy tale, and also in the idea that the current military of the USA is "defending our freedoms" rather than (the truth) that they are mercenaries for the Rockefellers and the NWO.

Persecution will come from many angles, including the "church system." Our job is to seek the Lord and do whatever HE says, not man.

Thread Title should read as follows;

Persecution of the Real HEIRS who are Christlike as Stephan was will be Persecuted from the SO CALLED CHURCH of VAGA`BONDS/WHORE`MONGERS...

Remember, not all pay an Homage to the

VAGA`BONDS/WHORE`MONGERS...

MJ

Yep. Important topic!

One of the forerunners who knows the Template of the Divine Law of LOVE...

MJ

anti-pope?

This is paradoxal or what you refer to as church is wrongly defined church.

Its a church alright but what kind of church they are is the question...

MJ

I was reading a few excerpts from books of leading charismatic preachers a few months ago, and the gist of what they were saying is that all Christians who refuse 'their special annointing' are in fact anti-christs and demon filled. Yes, the same 'special annointing' that has many misguided brethren falling down in uncontrollably laughter, acting intoxicated and raving to rock music heavy in drums. I'm sorry I don't have links available as it was a few months ago.

Eventually, in essence calling it a church would be wrong.

Last Edited by Desertportal on 10/25/2013 04:16 PM

The church has left the building!

What makes this preacher any different than all the others? ALL of the systems he spoke about are just as guilty of being able to CORRECTLY point out the sins of other church organizations. In fact, this preacher is just as wrong as all the others. By just reading his website for a few minutes, I could see that he is just as guilty of interpreting Scripture as anyone else. He believes that non-believers (along with Satan), will be cast into Hell--FOREVER suffering. This is a HORRIBLE doctrine right out of the bowels of the Roman Catholic Church which he obviously believes is the "Mother of Harlots"--rightfully so. He also plays up the KJ version of the Bible as the true authority in these last days, yet does not believe in all the Commandments of God because he keeps SUNDAY holy. Again, this false Sabbath was invented in the hellish minds of the Vatican, which he supposedly HATES, but he is following THEIR concept of hell and the commandments of God. I suppose he also believes in the Trinity which is the THIRD great lie by the RCC.

By believing in an eternally burning hell, he is also claiming that the "soul" is immortal. The Scriptures teach otherwise. "The soul that sinneth shall die" or "burned up root and branch", and a host of other scriptures that teach otherwise.

I liked the video. I watched it all and didn't DISAGREE with most of it. I was even impressed that he included "contemplative prayer" in the list of abominations being foisted upon churches today. Contemplative prayer is now making huge inroads (mostly out west and deep south), in the Seventh Day Adventist church( which I belong to). Yes, even among our own, there are many trying to bring in heresies, new-age doctrines, and other abominations. They are succeeding in some areas, but the SDA church has dug in its heels and become so conservative (in its fear), that it appears legalistic in many ways--and IS in many others. This is sad but not hopeless, no more so than for any other congregation out there who will hearken to the last warnings given.

I was really turned off by the demand for subscription fees to join the website. This is a horrible practice and speaks reams about the desire for money. I can certainly understand having to pay for dvd's, cd's, etc., but to pay a subscription fee ($7.00 a month) just turns me off completely. As a matter of fact, it made me look at this pastor as just another fast-talking last-day wannabe prophet--with strings. My message would be to him: "Come out of her my people that you not receive of her plagues." There is a Babylonian "system" and there is a Babylonian lifestyle. We are to come out of all things Babylonian. WE do not get to decide which is ok. The Scriptures decide that quite clearly. The hellish doctrines of the RCC are of BABYLONIAN descent. Keep the doctrine, keep the lifestyle=cast into the lake of fire and consumed completely--forever.

Ok, than I will call as IT is known from The THRONE of THRONES from on High

Syn`A`Gogues filled with Viperous Snakes...

MJ

My Time is up, see you all 2morrow

MJ