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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49036522 Canada 10/27/2013 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we suffer so we can feel joy joy , happiness doesnt exist without pain try being an addict, all the drugs int he world wont get you high after a point, not until you come down (feel pain) then then you can feel pleasure again. its just like hot and cold, dark and light, pleasuer pain, the duality of the universe, good and evil, created by our creator (not god, god is a human creation to represent one side of a duality- the good side) im talking about the creatore, the one who made duality, if you dont like his game, quit. |
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Nexus-9 (OP) User ID: 16911207 United States 10/27/2013 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The desire for peace when there is war leads to suffering The desire for love when there is hate leads to suffering What desires are these to cause suffering? Desire not food and shall one be filled? Desire not peace and shall one be quite? Desire not love and one shall be complete? Where does wisdom come from? Last Edited by Nexus-9 on 10/27/2013 10:06 PM "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1130777 Japan 10/27/2013 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suffering has three fundamental causes: Craving Aversion Ignorance Craving can be thought of as leaving the still center and chasing something. Aversion can be thought of leaving the still center because you are running away from something. Ignorance can be thought of as wandering away from the still center out of foggy-minded befuddlement, boredom, etc. You eliminate these three factors and remain in the still center, and suffering can be overcome. |
Nexus-9 (OP) User ID: 16911207 United States 10/27/2013 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suffering has three fundamental causes: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1130777 Craving Aversion Ignorance Craving can be thought of as leaving the still center and chasing something. Aversion can be thought of leaving the still center because you are running away from something. Ignorance can be thought of as wandering away from the still center out of foggy-minded befuddlement, boredom, etc. You eliminate these three factors and remain in the still center, and suffering can be overcome. Then the world suffers because many crave, are aversive and or are ignorant. Right? "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
Nexus-9 (OP) User ID: 16911207 United States 10/27/2013 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can someone else desire cause another person suffering? "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 48964420 Argentina 10/27/2013 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we suffer so we can feel joy Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49036522 joy , happiness doesnt exist without pain try being an addict, all the drugs int he world wont get you high after a point, not until you come down (feel pain) then then you can feel pleasure again. its just like hot and cold, dark and light, pleasuer pain, the duality of the universe, good and evil, created by our creator (not god, god is a human creation to represent one side of a duality- the good side) im talking about the creatore, the one who made duality, if you dont like his game, quit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1130777 Japan 10/27/2013 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suffering has three fundamental causes: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1130777 Craving Aversion Ignorance Craving can be thought of as leaving the still center and chasing something. Aversion can be thought of leaving the still center because you are running away from something. Ignorance can be thought of as wandering away from the still center out of foggy-minded befuddlement, boredom, etc. You eliminate these three factors and remain in the still center, and suffering can be overcome. Then the world suffers because many crave, are aversive and or are ignorant. Right? Basically. Physical suffering may or may not be different from mental suffering. I mean, we have nerve endings and feel pain for good reasons...if you let your hand burn off by laying it on the stove because you feel no pain, that's no good. But sometimes it seems to me that the human physical pain system is too sensitive. Lots of physical pain seems unnecessary to me. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44725127 United Kingdom 10/27/2013 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suffering has three fundamental causes: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1130777 Craving Aversion Ignorance Craving can be thought of as leaving the still center and chasing something. Aversion can be thought of leaving the still center because you are running away from something. Ignorance can be thought of as wandering away from the still center out of foggy-minded befuddlement, boredom, etc. You eliminate these three factors and remain in the still center, and suffering can be overcome. When the Aeon Sophia 'fell' into the lower realms without her masculine counterpart Christos - she became scrambled, smeared out across the frequency spectrum. The feeling elements coalesced as the planet earth and she created organic life with them. The mental elements the Archon imprint became the rocky planets and such Saturm Jupiter Neptune etc. These Archon frequencies are drawn to interact and impinge on organic life - like a honey pot. We have been downloading grounding and redeeming them for Aeons, more lately as smart monkeys - which is what are egomanic bicemeral minds are. All this is being mediated by the Aeon Chistos - Sophia's counterpart. Suffering - is when you have anchored an Archon frequency but have not yet redeemed it by subordinatng it to Sophia (your soul) - it is out of balance and is why 'sin' or vices will consume you until driven to seek peace. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1130777 Japan 10/27/2013 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the Aeon Sophia 'fell' into the lower realms without her masculine counterpart Christos - she became scrambled, smeared out across the frequency spectrum. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44725127 The feeling elements coalesced as the planet earth and she created organic life with them. The mental elements the Archon imprint became the rocky planets and such Saturm Jupiter Neptune etc. These Archon frequencies are drawn to interact and impinge on organic life - like a honey pot. We have been downloading grounding and redeeming them for Aeons, more lately as smart monkeys - which is what are egomanic bicemeral minds are. All this is being mediated by the Aeon Chistos - Sophia's counterpart. Suffering - is when you have anchored an Archon frequency but have not yet redeemed it by subordinatng it to Sophia (your soul) - it is out of balance and is why 'sin' or vices will consume you until driven to seek peace. I have read these gnostic books and they are fascinating. It seems like a good system for explaining a lot of stuff. |
Nexus-9 (OP) User ID: 16911207 United States 10/27/2013 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suffering is like a piece of steel that is heated. And a hammer that delivers a blow. And finally that steel yields into the form it is meant to be shaped in. And finally the heat ceases and the hammer blows stops. Wisdom is achieved. "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1130777 Japan 10/27/2013 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suffering is like a piece of steel that is heated. Quoting: Nexus-9 And a hammer that delivers a blow. And finally that steel yields into the form it is meant to be shaped in. And finally the heat ceases and the hammer blows stops. Wisdom is achieved. Can be that way. But some diseases are degenerative. If you have senile dementia or psychosis its not going to be "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger" (Neitzsche) but "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stranger" (the Joker). |
Nexus-9 (OP) User ID: 16911207 United States 10/27/2013 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The steel I speak of is not of the body or the things of this world. It is of the Spirit. Disease and physical ailments that bring suffering can only harm the body, but once the body is gone those things are powerless against the Spirit. They become nothing "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
Frayed Knot User ID: 35406953 United States 10/27/2013 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1) a path to repentance 2) a mechanism for spiritual growth and 3) a natural occurrence in a fallen world (rain falls on the evil and the good). Last Edited by Frayed Knot on 10/27/2013 10:45 PM I have long feared that my sins would return to visit me, and the cost is more than I can bear. - The Patriot |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17782435 United States 10/28/2013 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The desire for food when there is hunger leads to suffering Quoting: Nexus-9 The desire for peace when there is war leads to suffering The desire for love when there is hate leads to suffering What desires are these to cause suffering? Desire not food and shall one be filled? Desire not peace and shall one be quite? Desire not love and one shall be complete? Where does wisdom come from? Desire not food and shall one be filled? ?? eat not food and you will die. So starving kids in Africa are suffering from ignorance only, is that it? |
Mind Control User ID: 21051903 Canada 10/28/2013 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The desire for food when there is hunger leads to suffering Quoting: Nexus-9 The desire for peace when there is war leads to suffering The desire for love when there is hate leads to suffering What desires are these to cause suffering? Desire not food and shall one be filled? Desire not peace and shall one be quite? Desire not love and one shall be complete? Where does wisdom come from? Desire not food and shall one be filled? ?? eat not food and you will die. So starving kids in Africa are suffering from ignorance only, is that it? [link to www.examiner.com] Food isn't needed to survive ya know. “Our minds have been poisoned and our accepted beliefs are unnatural and artificial.” - Bryant McGill Stop governments from spying on you by encrypting your communications: [link to prism-break.org] |
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