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Can you prove that the EGO exists?

 
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Can you prove that the EGO exists?
I've seen a trend on this forum to increasingly claim that people are motivated by ego to do everything...

Let's step back for a second, the ego is just another theoretical concept.

Can you prove that the EGO exists?

What's your evidence?
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I've seen a trend on this forum to increasingly claim that people are motivated by ego to do everything...

Let's step back for a second, the ego is just another theoretical concept.

Can you prove that the EGO exists?

What's your evidence?
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Re: Can you prove that the EGO exists?
Ego = the false identity. False because not lasting: leading to one´s mortality.
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Re: Can you prove that the EGO exists?
I've seen a trend on this forum to increasingly claim that people are motivated by ego to do everything...

Let's step back for a second, the ego is just another theoretical concept.

Can you prove that the EGO exists?

What's your evidence?
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Re: Can you prove that the EGO exists?
Ego = the false identity. False because not lasting: leading to one´s mortality.
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Ego = the false identity.

Now you have to define "the false identity" and prove that it exists. The above didn't accomplish anything.
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Re: Can you prove that the EGO exists?
Ego = the false identity. False because not lasting: leading to one´s mortality.
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Ego = the false identity.

Now you have to define \"the false identity\" and prove that it exists. The above didn\'t accomplish anything.
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I did explained further in the line: anything not lasting is false.
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Re: Can you prove that the EGO exists?
I've seen a trend on this forum to increasingly claim that people are motivated by ego to do everything...

Let's step back for a second, the ego is just another theoretical concept.

Can you prove that the EGO exists?

What's your evidence?
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Greed and selfishness in the world. It's all about ME and what's in it for ME.

Ego is the result of depravity. Most everyone is seeking attention, admiration, acceptance, LOVE. All looking in the wrong places. Turn to God, who is LOVE and He will satisfy you and fulfill you with the LOVE and attention that you starve for.
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Re: Can you prove that the EGO exists?
Mostly it's funny because the people that use "EGO" all the time, don't know what it means.

So when they try to use it as an insult, they're actually complimenting you.

(if you're a person that strives to be logical, rational, and reasonable that is)


The ego comprises the organized part of the personality structure that includes defensive, perceptual, intellectual-cognitive, and executive functions. Conscious awareness resides in the ego, although not all of the operations of the ego are conscious. Originally, Freud used the word ego to mean a sense of self, but later revised it to mean a set of psychic functions such as judgment, tolerance, reality testing, control, planning, defense, synthesis of information, intellectual functioning, and memory

When someone says you have a big ego... say thank you.
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Re: Can you prove that the EGO exists?
Ego = the false identity. False because not lasting: leading to one´s mortality.
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Ego = the false identity.

Now you have to define \"the false identity\" and prove that it exists. The above didn\'t accomplish anything.
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I did explained further in the line: anything not lasting is false.
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Your definition of "the false identity" is "False because not lasting."

Now you have to prove that "The false identity is not lasting."

If you're trying to claim that "the false identity" won't continue after death, you can't prove that because no one knows what happens after death.
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Greed and selfishness in the world. It's all about ME and what's in it for ME.

Ego is the result of depravity. Most everyone is seeking attention, admiration, acceptance, LOVE. All looking in the wrong places. Turn to God, who is LOVE and He will satisfy you and fulfill you with the LOVE and attention that you starve for.
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This is your understanding of what the ego manifests as. You're presenting a theory, that's not proof. Alternative theories could be presented for everything you just wrote.
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Re: Can you prove that the EGO exists?
I've seen a trend on this forum to increasingly claim that people are motivated by ego to do everything...

Let's step back for a second, the ego is just another theoretical concept.

Can you prove that the EGO exists?

What's your evidence?
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Re: Can you prove that the EGO exists?
Mostly it's funny because the people that use "EGO" all the time, don't know what it means.

So when they try to use it as an insult, they're actually complimenting you.

(if you're a person that strives to be logical, rational, and reasonable that is)


The ego comprises the organized part of the personality structure that includes defensive, perceptual, intellectual-cognitive, and executive functions. Conscious awareness resides in the ego, although not all of the operations of the ego are conscious. Originally, Freud used the word ego to mean a sense of self, but later revised it to mean a set of psychic functions such as judgment, tolerance, reality testing, control, planning, defense, synthesis of information, intellectual functioning, and memory

When someone says you have a big ego... say thank you.
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That's all theory though, that's not proof that ego exists.
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Greed and selfishness in the world. It's all about ME and what's in it for ME.

Ego is the result of depravity. Most everyone is seeking attention, admiration, acceptance, LOVE. All looking in the wrong places. Turn to God, who is LOVE and He will satisfy you and fulfill you with the LOVE and attention that you starve for.
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This is your understanding of what the ego manifests as. You're presenting a theory, that's not proof. Alternative theories could be presented for everything you just wrote.
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Yes, you only see the results. But Ego is formless, just as awareness is formless.

Can you prove that YOU are aware? Can you prove that dreaming is real?
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OP please outline what you would accept as 'proof' when inquiring about a immeasurable and unquantifiable aspect of the human psyche???

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Greed and selfishness in the world. It's all about ME and what's in it for ME.

Ego is the result of depravity. Most everyone is seeking attention, admiration, acceptance, LOVE. All looking in the wrong places. Turn to God, who is LOVE and He will satisfy you and fulfill you with the LOVE and attention that you starve for.
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This is your understanding of what the ego manifests as. You're presenting a theory, that's not proof. Alternative theories could be presented for everything you just wrote.
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Yes, you only see the results. But Ego is formless, just as awareness is formless.

Can you prove that YOU are aware? Can you prove that dreaming is real?
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In my opinion those things can't be proven that's why no one should go around making absolute claims about such things.

Let's put this back in context with the original post:

I've seen a trend on this forum to increasingly claim that people are motivated by ego to do everything...

Let's step back for a second, the ego is just another theoretical concept.


I think it's wrong to go around claiming that the ego is causing this and that when the ego is just another unprovable theory.

If people were saying, "I believe the ego is causing such and such", I have no problem with that.
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Re: Can you prove that the EGO exists?
OP please outline what you would accept as 'proof' when inquiring about a immeasurable and unquantifiable aspect of the human psyche???
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In my opinion it can't be proven that's why no one should go around making absolute claims about such things.

Let's put this back in context with the original post:

I've seen a trend on this forum to increasingly claim that people are motivated by ego to do everything...

Let's step back for a second, the ego is just another theoretical concept.


I think it's wrong to go around claiming that the ego is causing this and that when the ego is just another unprovable theory.

If people were saying, "I believe the ego is causing such and such", I have no problem with that.
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OP please outline what you would accept as 'proof' when inquiring about a immeasurable and unquantifiable aspect of the human psyche???
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In my opinion it can't be proven that's why no one should go around making absolute claims about such things.

Let's put this back in context with the original post:

I've seen a trend on this forum to increasingly claim that people are motivated by ego to do everything...

Let's step back for a second, the ego is just another theoretical concept.


I think it's wrong to go around claiming that the ego is causing this and that when the ego is just another unprovable theory.

If people were saying, "I believe the ego is causing such and such", I have no problem with that.
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You don't see the issue with asking for 'proof' of something that cannot be measured or quantified? You are phrasing your question in a context that you know cannot be answered. Why not take a different approach and ask an open-ended question and have people share their opinion on what that term is intended to describe or allude to? Wouldn't that be more constructive and conducive to a discussion here?

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OP please outline what you would accept as 'proof' when inquiring about a immeasurable and unquantifiable aspect of the human psyche???
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In my opinion it can't be proven that's why no one should go around making absolute claims about such things.

Let's put this back in context with the original post:

I've seen a trend on this forum to increasingly claim that people are motivated by ego to do everything...

Let's step back for a second, the ego is just another theoretical concept.


I think it's wrong to go around claiming that the ego is causing this and that when the ego is just another unprovable theory.

If people were saying, "I believe the ego is causing such and such", I have no problem with that.
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You don't see the issue with asking for 'proof' of something that cannot be measured or quantified?
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I asked the question this way because...

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

If people are going to go around expecting everyone else to believe that the ego absolutely exists, shouldn't they be ready to at least present good evidence for it?
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At first glance I thought it said lego. I can prove their existence, I've stepped on about a thousand of them with my bare feet.
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I asked the question this way because...

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

If people are going to go around expecting everyone else to believe that the ego absolutely exists, shouldn't they be ready to at least present good evidence for it?
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But you're really not trying to facilitate discussion on this subject matter though. You asked your question in this manner because you know it cannot be replied to in the (loaded) context that you proposed. So it sounds more like you just wanted to affirm your preexisting opinion on the subject matter.

Now if you had said "What is the 'ego' and how do we know it exists?" and proposed an open-ended question that facilitates discussion, that would be quite different. But you are asking for tangible 'proof' of a term that is used to describe an aspect of the human psyche and something that would therefore be immeasurable and unquantifiable?

Can you measure/quantify all of your 'emotions' and provide verifiable 'proof' of them? If not, does that mean that the terms used to describe such states/experiences are therefore only theoretical concepts and these states of consciousness or aspects of the human psyche do not exist?

I mean is that the standard you want to employ when dealing with matters relating to conceptualizing the aspects of the human psyche? Why stop with the concept of the 'ego' when you could basically toss out every term ever created to describe something that is immeasurable and unquantifiable as it pertains to this field?

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To OP, if you want answers to these questions I do not suggest looking for them here. Aspire to become an initiate and do the work to see for yourself. Otherwise, no one will tell you. But of course, you're not genuinely interested in these questions but simply find solace in questioning those who do not know.
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I remain silent to the answer, study and work towards initiation if you want the answers.
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I've seen a trend on this forum to increasingly claim that people are motivated by ego to do everything...

Let's step back for a second, the ego is just another theoretical concept.

Can you prove that the EGO exists?

What's your evidence?
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To OP, if you want answers to these questions I do not suggest looking for them here. Aspire to become an initiate and do the work to see for yourself. Otherwise, no one will tell you. But of course, you're not genuinely interested in these questions but simply find solace in questioning those who do not know.
Those who speak do not know, those who know do not speak.
I remain silent to the answer, study and work towards initiation if you want the answers.
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Someone who's enlightened like you're saying knows the difference between when claims can be shown to be absolutely true and when they can't.

How do I know that?

Everyone is limited in certain matters such as proving the soul exists, proving the afterlife, proving the ego exists, etc.

It's doesn't matter how or low you are on the ladder of life (so to speak), there are certain limitations that are common to all.
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I asked the question this way because...

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

If people are going to go around expecting everyone else to believe that the ego absolutely exists, shouldn't they be ready to at least present good evidence for it?
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But you're really not trying to facilitate discussion on this subject matter though.
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You're right. That was not the purpose of this thread. The purpose of this thread was to see what kind of evidence people had to prove that the ego exists.

I knew it was a dead end and I was trying to prove that very point.

BTW, I don't usually do that but in this case, I had a point to make.

I'm sick of all the assumptions that are held up as facts in the conspiracy community. I'm sick of all the faith involved with nearly every part of it.

We need to stick to the evidence, the facts, and what can be proven if we want to arrive at the truth.
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The ego is the same as money.

It's an agreed upon concept by two or more people.
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If you're trying to use the scientific method to prove the ego you'll be chasing your own tail.

The ego is not made of particles, therefor it cannot be directly observed.

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