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NO DARK MATTER ANYWHERE?

 
Inerrancia  (OP)

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Re: NO DARK MATTER ANYWHERE?
It is true, dark matter doesn't exist, it's only teory which support big bang theory, but there was no big bang, universe is static and redshift is not caused by space expansion it's other effect. There is no thermonuclear fusion, stars only transforming gravity into light and gravity is light "redshifted" to infrawaves so universe is feedback loop of energy.
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Can you prove it? Are you postulating some stuff like the electric universe or something?
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it's hard to prove it, but easiest thing you can prove is that big bang theory is wrong, for example some things
in this theory are inconsistent, speed of expansion grows and slows so density of matter in far space should be different,
becouse you see smaller universe before it has grown. Another weirdness, space is expanding but the earth is not moving away from sun, galaxies are not growing it's explained that gravity is keeping them together, but space expansion is linear and gravity nonlinear so center of galaxy should become black hole and border should fly away.
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"Basically, we saw nothing. But we saw nothing better than anyone else so far,” said particle physicist Daniel McKinsey of Yale, a member of the LUX collaboration.

It might appear strange to the rest of us, but a null finding is actually encouraging for physicists, who will use the results to set stringent limits on what kind of dark matter they might expect to find in the future. It also seems to rule out the results of several previous experiments, which had seen hints of what might be dark matter.



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In other words, they are justifying the lack of evidence by promising more ad hoc research.
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Re: NO DARK MATTER ANYWHERE?
it's hard to prove it, but easiest thing you can prove is that big bang theory is wrong, for example some things
in this theory are inconsistent, speed of expansion grows and slows so density of matter in far space should be different,
becouse you see smaller universe before it has grown. Another weirdness, space is expanding but the earth is not moving away from sun, galaxies are not growing it's explained that gravity is keeping them together, but space expansion is linear and gravity nonlinear so center of galaxy should become black hole and border should fly away.
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What about the Background Radiation? That's a fact.

On which time-space scale are you thinking when talking on universe's expansión growth?
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Background radiation is fact, but what you think it is ? The farther an object is from the earth, you see its light more redshifted, in some distance this object is not disappearing, its light is redshifted into infrared so when you can redshift its light into microwaves, why scientist can't belive in this ? Why object can be redshifted in visible light and become "background radiation" when you don't see it ? Microwaves and light is the same electromagnetic wave. Scientist say that backgroud radiation is very uniform radiation but it's not true, when i watch wmap images i can't say it's uniform radiation, it's only distribution of matter farther than 13 billion light years from earth.
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Background radiation is fact, but what you think it is ? The farther an object is from the earth, you see its light more redshifted, in some distance this object is not disappearing, its light is redshifted into infrared so when you can redshift its light into microwaves, why scientist can't belive in this ? Why object can be redshifted in visible light and become "background radiation" when you don't see it ? Microwaves and light is the same electromagnetic wave. Scientist say that backgroud radiation is very uniform radiation but it's not true, when i watch wmap images i can't say it's uniform radiation, it's only distribution of matter farther than 13 billion light years from earth.
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Which is the age of the universe according to you?

Are you academic or amateur?

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I think universe is existing forever. I'm not academic, academic can't say such things :)
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I think universe is existing forever. I'm not academic, academic can't say such things :)
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there are some wild academic over there, you know banana2

"Forever" doesn't sound very scientific, my friend. Are you talking about a time-space looping universe, without beginning nor end? An Ouroboros?
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There is no "Dark" or "Black" anything. These are simply mathematical rainbow unicorns, made up by "theoretical physicists.".

The Universe has always existed, and always will.

The "Big Bang" was bullshit invented by a Belgian Jesuit priest, to fit in with Biblical "Genesis."

The Universe runs on electricity (Birkeland currents in plasma - the Universe is 99.999% plasma).

Stars are not "fusion reactors" (although there may be a tiny amount of hydrogen fusion going on) - they are balls of electrically-driven plasma (ball lightning, in effect) externally powered by galaxy-wide Birkeland currents.

Galaxies are homopolar generators, at massive scale.
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There is no "Dark" or "Black" anything. These are simply mathematical rainbow unicorns, made up by "theoretical physicists.".

The Universe has always existed, and always will.

The "Big Bang" was bullshit invented by a Belgian Jesuit priest, to fit in with Biblical "Genesis."

The Universe runs on electricity (Birkeland currents in plasma - the Universe is 99.999% plasma).

Stars are not "fusion reactors" (although there may be a tiny amount of hydrogen fusion going on) - they are balls of electrically-driven plasma (ball lightning, in effect) externally powered by galaxy-wide Birkeland currents.

Galaxies are homopolar generators, at massive scale.
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Actually the electric universe is a XIX Century concept

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There is no "Dark" or "Black" anything. These are simply mathematical rainbow unicorns, made up by "theoretical physicists.".

The Universe has always existed, and always will.

The "Big Bang" was bullshit invented by a Belgian Jesuit priest, to fit in with Biblical "Genesis."

The Universe runs on electricity (Birkeland currents in plasma - the Universe is 99.999% plasma).

Stars are not "fusion reactors" (although there may be a tiny amount of hydrogen fusion going on) - they are balls of electrically-driven plasma (ball lightning, in effect) externally powered by galaxy-wide Birkeland currents.

Galaxies are homopolar generators, at massive scale.
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Actually the electric universe is a XIX Century concept
 Quoting: Inerrancia


That was back when there were towering intellects, like Maxwell.

Today, it's all about funding, grants and sucking-off the "Standard Model."

The vast majority of so-called "scientists" these days are shameless whores and frauds!
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Something like that, I don't belive that stars are burning but they converting incoming energy into light so they can exist forever but sometimes they can blow up. Next think i belive that gravity is not force from inside but radiation from outside, something like moon is pushed up into earth not earth is attracting moon, so i don't belive in black holes, becouse outside force can't squeeze matter forever.
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There is no "Dark" or "Black" anything. These are simply mathematical rainbow unicorns, made up by "theoretical physicists.".

The Universe has always existed, and always will.

The "Big Bang" was bullshit invented by a Belgian Jesuit priest, to fit in with Biblical "Genesis."

The Universe runs on electricity (Birkeland currents in plasma - the Universe is 99.999% plasma).

Stars are not "fusion reactors" (although there may be a tiny amount of hydrogen fusion going on) - they are balls of electrically-driven plasma (ball lightning, in effect) externally powered by galaxy-wide Birkeland currents.

Galaxies are homopolar generators, at massive scale.
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Actually the electric universe is a XIX Century concept
 Quoting: Inerrancia


That was back when there were towering intellects, like Maxwell.

Today, it's all about funding, grants and sucking-off the "Standard Model."

The vast majority of so-called "scientists" these days are shameless whores and frauds!
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The electrical model and the nucleosynthetic model can coexist
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dark matter is pretty much anti-matter or anti-space its like a web that holds together the universe
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There is no "Dark" or "Black" anything. These are simply mathematical rainbow unicorns, made up by "theoretical physicists.".

The Universe has always existed, and always will.

The "Big Bang" was bullshit invented by a Belgian Jesuit priest, to fit in with Biblical "Genesis."

The Universe runs on electricity (Birkeland currents in plasma - the Universe is 99.999% plasma).

Stars are not "fusion reactors" (although there may be a tiny amount of hydrogen fusion going on) - they are balls of electrically-driven plasma (ball lightning, in effect) externally powered by galaxy-wide Birkeland currents.

Galaxies are homopolar generators, at massive scale.
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Actually the electric universe is a XIX Century concept
 Quoting: Inerrancia


That was back when there were towering intellects, like Maxwell.

Today, it's all about funding, grants and sucking-off the "Standard Model."

The vast majority of so-called "scientists" these days are shameless whores and frauds!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49235468


The electrical model and the nucleosynthetic model can coexist
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It all comes down to gravity, or electricity.

Make your choice, understanding that gravity is the weakest force in the Universe.
Inerrancia  (OP)

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Actually the electric universe is a XIX Century concept
 Quoting: Inerrancia


That was back when there were towering intellects, like Maxwell.

Today, it's all about funding, grants and sucking-off the "Standard Model."

The vast majority of so-called "scientists" these days are shameless whores and frauds!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49235468


The electrical model and the nucleosynthetic model can coexist
 Quoting: Inerrancia


It all comes down to gravity, or electricity.

Make your choice, understanding that gravity is the weakest force in the Universe.
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...and electromagnetism is the strongest?
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That was back when there were towering intellects, like Maxwell.

Today, it's all about funding, grants and sucking-off the "Standard Model."

The vast majority of so-called "scientists" these days are shameless whores and frauds!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49235468


The electrical model and the nucleosynthetic model can coexist
 Quoting: Inerrancia


It all comes down to gravity, or electricity.

Make your choice, understanding that gravity is the weakest force in the Universe.
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...and electromagnetism is the strongest?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


Well, yes. 10^29 stronger than gravity (I think the exponent is 29, but it could be higher).

Haven't you even looked at the thunderbolts.info website?
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dark matter is pretty much anti-matter or anti-space its like a web that holds together the universe
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????????

Then the universe should be a Gamma Rays magma... without us, for example
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The electrical model and the nucleosynthetic model can coexist
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It all comes down to gravity, or electricity.

Make your choice, understanding that gravity is the weakest force in the Universe.
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...and electromagnetism is the strongest?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


Well, yes. 10^29 stronger than gravity (I think the exponent is 29, but it could be higher).

Haven't you even looked at the thunderbolts.info website?
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I get the documentaries, I'll see them this winter
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After three months of researching, the Large Underground Xenón (LUX) Experiment didn't find yet any evidence on the existence of Dark Matter in the universe. They are thinking now that the supposed evidences found earlier would be related with the Background Radiation and actually not with Dark Matter.

Thet say the device is working well, however. Possibly, they are looking at the wrong place and/or they simply need more time...

[link to arstechnica.com]


 Quoting: Inerrancia


"Dark Matter" is another dimension of energy that coexists within ours but is separate.

One day they will figure it out.
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Problem with scientist is that they can't say they did something wrong, something was wrong with theory and they added to this new things like dark matter or Doppler effect become relativistic Doppler effect, that was evolution from one theory to something different becouse big bang was boom something like explosion and become "soft" space expansion, scientist shoud say many years ago that something is wrong and "clean" this theory but they creating new mess to support this babel tower of nonsence.
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it seems that they must recycle the usual notions on particles and forces... and surely on the nature of light

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Any chance the increased mass is down to gravity leasing between particles and not dark matter?























....yeah it's not a thing but it sounded cool.
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Any chance the increased mass is down to gravity leasing between particles and not dark matter?























....yeah it's not a thing but it sounded cool.
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Your post is like the universe. A lot of space filled with No-Letters
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under gnosis
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under gnosis
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Pfff... Sophia, demiurges, archons, angels, Aeons... A very crowded universe
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Re: NO DARK MATTER ANYWHERE?
The US novelist, Upton Sinclair, said this (and I reckon he out-Menckened H. L. Mencken);

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"
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I found dark matter, in my toilet.
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I found dark matter, in my toilet.
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Activate your Obamacare policy, stat!
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I found dark matter, in my toilet.
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Activate your Obamacare policy, stat!
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as I said, the Dark Matter is within us





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