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JONESTOWN CULT IN DC - Obama Is The New Jim Jones

 
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BOMBSHELL radio interview:

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The man being interviewed is a researcher in his 70's - David Conn.

The radio host is Rick Wiles.

Author David Conn has a website: www.truthsleuth.net

HEADLINE:

DON'T LET AMERICA BECOME ANOTHER JONESTOWN

-- Mr. Conn started studying Jim Jones over 40 years ago, long before Jonestown. Jones was very active in California Democratic politics in San Francisco.... something like a "community organizer."

The tragic deaths at Jonestown occurred November 18, 1978.

Bio of David Conn:

David Conn is a recognized expert on cult mentatlities and coauthored the book, THE CULT THAT DIED, published by G. P. Putnams’s Sons, New York, 1980.

David has interviewed many of the people he has chosen to fictionalize in his new novel, LEDNORF'S DILEMMA, including professors, theologians, politicians, and numerous technical people within private industry and the Department of Defense.

David Conn joined the Defense Department as a liaison among West Coast Navy and Air Force bases, the Defense Department and several industrial transportation companies. Prior to that Conn was a lead analyst with Chevron’s environmental laboratory.
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Excerpt from article at Mr. Conn's website, regarding Obamacare:


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Now back to the fundamental reason why Obamacare failed. First, you should know that Barack Obama himself is the stealth leader of “The Cult of Liberalism.” He is also the “great Western Defender” of Islam, the most massive cult in the world. (See my 2008 article, Jonestown, Its Portent Has Arrived.) Thus it is obvious, to all but the most naïve (or to those who themselves are members of “The Cult of Liberalism”), that Obama is a cult leader of the first order.



Keeping this soundly in mind, we can now consider the major characteristic of every cult leader in the world. He or she will accept, as assistants or high level aides, only those with virtually the same mindset. And this “mindset” is focused almost entirely on acquiring power, not on establishing a structure that furthers healthy traditions and values. This focus is malevolent because, in nearly every case, the cult leader is either sociopathic or borderline sociopathic, fearful of (or totally blind to the need for) inner change. Thus, the cult leader and the assistants are furiously mal-focused on the external world. They want to change it into something that will allow them, and their power over others, to increase. In short, since they are unable to change their inner selves (because, to any real extent, they are unable to focus on their internal makeup) they want mightily to change the world into something that allows their selves to remain static. (Static is a key characteristic of the cult mentality.)



With that being said, we can begin to see why Obmacare has failed. The cult leader, Obama, will tolerate no one who does not have his same “cult mentality.” Kathleen Sebelius (having done her utmost to avoid answering questions from Congress) has the same mentality as Obama. Nevertheless, Obama will make her the “fall guy.” He is outrageously narcissistic, and has never taken blame for anything that has gone on during his nearly five years as President. (This is understandable when you think about the fact that he is incapable of studying his internal makeup.) Obama is obviously the instigator, the driver, of Obamacare. But he will have no qualm about dumping blame on Kathleen Sebelius. He may easily see her as incompetent, yet he does not know the nature of that “incompetence,” He is incapable of seeing that he has the same incompetence.
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High-level support was given to Jones from famous liberals...

Ralph Nader

Harvey Milk

Rosalyn (Mrs. Jimmy) Carter

Plus, years ago, I remember seeing documentation of Jones being a covert operator for Naval Intelligence.

The U.S. government recruited this cult leader for mind control.

And that is precisely what is going on with Obama.
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Good. Can't wait for the kool aid to kick in.
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More goodies from Mr. Conn's website:

Excerpt from another article.....


But finally, Jim Jones and his cult are back upon us.... called forth in the words, “Jonestown, its portent has arrived.”

... Here it is, then, the manifestation of the portent. A young and charismatic black lawyer comes almost out of nowhere to work the hopes and weaknesses of a naïve citizenry. He molds them into an image of his Marxist-socialist vision.

And, just as it was with Jones (where people, politicians, and radical activists flocked to him, believing he was just what they wanted and needed), it is now with Barack Obama who is looked upon as a saint of sorts—just as people told me Jones was a saint and a leader the world desperately needed...

... Obama was a far left extremist, documented to be the most liberal man in the Senate. So I observed him and his wife (just as I did Jim Jones and his wife). I studied their rhetoric. And I can now assure you that there is no significant difference between Obama’s rhetoric and that of Jim Jones.

As with Jones, I saw the clever fashioning of an out-group in order to solidify the loyalty of the in-group. I saw straw man fallacies, and the lack of moments wherein a truth is uttered strictly for the sake of truth. Obama lacked authenticity, the character that puts national stability ahead of self-achievement.

I saw in Obama a sense of entitlement, a belief that he should have what he wants, meaning that he does not consider those deeper elements of his desires, the whys and wherefore of them. He desires being the nation’s president much more than the well-being of the nation. He, as did Jones, wants and needs to change the external world, not for the sake of the world, but for the sake of himself.

That is to say: Though he thinks he is dynamic, he is in fact static. So he needs to change the world into a wild entity that tolerates almost everything, and enslaves the minds of its denizens. That is the world that will tolerate the Obama who is death-oriented, un-alive, hopelessly static. He is a statue molded by the dull artisans of socialism...

...I tell you an irony: Jim Jones sensed that he was un-alive. It accounts for his preoccupation with death, from childhood up to the moment he gasped his last breath. But Obama, with his static mind, has not a clue that he got it all backward, that he is a lost artificiality...

...Obama leads a gigantic cult. He leads it disguised as an outsider. The cult is Islam. And Obama leads it by way of being its great Western Defender. In the most insidious fashion he has become the energizer of Islam’s massive incursion, from East to West. As President, he would be the principal driver of Islam’s invasion, and therefore the ultimate manifestation of the Jonestown portent.

Think about this: Jim Jones, like Barack Obama, at about the age of 42 found that sudden prominence wherein the media, liberal politicians, and New Age theologians were dazzled uncommonly, unreasonably. They were struck in ways almost magical. He somehow fit a mold envisioned by the California mindset with its radical aims, its dangerous games, and its succulent claims of a socialist paradise.
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Do not underestimate a cult leader.

One of Jim Jones' buddies in the old days was Governor Jerry Brown.

Brown even spoke from Jones' church pulpit.

Radio host Michael Savage says "Liberalism is a form of mental illness."

Progressivism is a cult mentality.
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The first sign of a cult mentality is the inability to see the obvious.

Totally absorbed with self and the self's ideology.

Real facts do not disturb the viewpoint.

Several parallels between Jim Jones and Obama:

-- Charisma

-- Narcissism

-- Dysfunctional childhood and missing father figure

-- No deep-seated principles, will say or do anything to get ahead

-- Instinctively knows how to charm the media

-- People would faint in meetings with Jim Jones
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"There's only a 30 per cent chance that America is going to survive."

Mr. Conn believes that Obama will be far more deadly than Jim Jones.
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"Already, what's going on has caused enormous amounts of people, who have just lost everything they've had, and who knows how many suicides..."
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In 1962, this episode of the famous series ROUTE 66, dramatized another cult leader - a rightwinger in this script:

Title of Episode:

"To Walk With The Serpent"


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Mr. Conn had to go into hiding for 18 months when Jim Jones threatened his life. As an author and researcher, all of Conn's findings went back to Jones himself through an informant.
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Conn started warning about Obama in 2006 - when Obama was a Senator.
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"I see coming a major misdirection of this country. It is never going to recover to what it used to be. The Liberals are just not able to wake up. It is going to go to outrageous extremes. America is not going to survive as a nation."
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Actually, Obama is only a temp of a cult leader.

If he's anything, he's the leader of the Negro Auxillary of the Hillary Clinton Cult.

The true leader of the Clinton Cult is Bill Clinton...

His wife Hillary is his designated sucessor...

Hillary's main qualification is that she had sex with Bill in the distant past and was impregnated by him.

She possibly could have also had his p---- inserted in her mouth multiple times as like Monica Lewinsky was reported to have had.

All that plus giving tons of weapons to Al Qaeda keeps her on track...

As we PIVOT from Obama crimes to bigger Clinton Crimes.

pigchef
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Rick Wiles gives a powerful commentary at the end of the radio interview.

He identifies Obama as a "lunatic."

Wiles also makes reference to the staged scene on the news when the pregnant woman in the red dress was supposed to have fainted.

Wiles confirms this was planned in advance.

He explains Obama wants to be seen as someone with tremendous power, with an aura.

"Psychopath"...

So the phony swoon was not just a stunt!

It is proof that the country is under the sway of another Adolf Hitler.

We had better do something.
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that would be the instant cure for america, get rid of him and all his followers in one nice cool aid party.
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Rick Wiles gives a powerful commentary at the end of the radio interview.

He identifies Obama as a "lunatic."

Wiles also makes reference to the staged scene on the news when the pregnant woman in the red dress was supposed to have fainted.

Wiles confirms this was planned in advance.

He explains Obama wants to be seen as someone with tremendous power, with an aura.

"Psychopath"...

So the phony swoon was not just a stunt!

It is proof that the country is under the sway of another Adolf Hitler.

We had better do something.
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resist


Indeed, Obama is insane.

I watched the "Route 66" episode last night, before I even knew I would run across this radio interview today.

At the very end, the cult leader is grabbed and put into a straitjacket.

People, may I please remind you of the whole SANDY HOOK EVENT?

This is not a freaking, funny game.

"We are not in Kansas anymore."


lolsign


May I remind you of the scenes with Obama and children at the White House?

May I remind you of Obama at the memorial service?
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No Obama is 'the original'Jim Jones
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The one good sign I see is that Obama's aura is slipping. He is failing to impress people.

The same thing happened at Jonestown, when some of the people at the compound in Guyana saw that people who had taken the first glasses of Koolaid started going into convulsions from cyanide poisoning.

Then, they woke out of their trance, and refused to drink. That's when Jones men started shooting them in the head.

Obama is mad, and he can become extremely dangerous.

He may kill us all.
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No Obama is 'the original'Jim Jones
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Valerie Jarrett and Ben Rhodes know how to push those buttons and elicit fear but trust me...

The permanent Washington DC Clinton Cult was there and waiting for Obama's orders.

Eric Holder, key Clinton Cult member keeps all the plates spinning in the air. Not the hapless coddled black man child Barak Obama.

pigchef
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Bill Clinton was another boy without a father.

In the 'cult leader' category, Clinton was always more interested in dominating women -- every age, shape, size, appearance. Bill and Hillary are criminals, but the common variety, reallyt.

Obama is THE TEXTBOOK CASE of a political dictator.
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Conn started warning about Obama in 2006 - when Obama was a Senator.
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bump

Great read. Thanks OP.

It was so obvious from Obama's DNC keynote speech in 2006 that a cult mentality was forming over supporters of his. No formal education or training in cults needed really. Michael Savage is damn right, "Liberalism IS a mental disorder" because those who adhere to it are in a permanent adolescent mentality. I've been friends with enough of them to know...
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Conn started warning about Obama in 2006 - when Obama was a Senator.
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The one good sign I see is that Obama's aura is slipping. He is failing to impress people.

The same thing happened at Jonestown, when some of the people at the compound in Guyana saw that people who had taken the first glasses of Koolaid started going into convulsions from cyanide poisoning.

Then, they woke out of their trance, and refused to drink. That's when Jones men started shooting them in the head.

Obama is mad, and he can become extremely dangerous.

He may kill us all.
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This is a very good analogy for the present situation.
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I know you're not a runner, op!
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High-level support was given to Jones from famous liberals...

Ralph Nader

Harvey Milk

Rosalyn (Mrs. Jimmy) Carter

Plus, years ago, I remember seeing documentation of Jones being a covert operator for Naval Intelligence.

The U.S. government recruited this cult leader for mind control.

And that is precisely what is going on with Obama.
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Walter Mondale and the entire elite of the California Democrat party machine.
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Do not forget Reverend Cecil Williams and his Glide Memorial Church in SF donate millions to the Democrat Party. The pastor was even friends with Jim Jones before the kool aid incident. abduct
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bump. he is evil, this is as good an explanation as any.

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