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Have You Ever Been A Foster Parent/Aunt/Uncle/Grand Parent/Sibling???

 
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11/02/2013 05:11 AM
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Have You Ever Been A Foster Parent/Aunt/Uncle/Grand Parent/Sibling???
My older sister, who lost her 3 year old baby on Christmas Day and has had 4 miscarriages since then, is fostering my brother-in-law's (her husband's) sister's child.

I was initially against the idea, because I told my sister it would break her heart. I know it hurt her feelings when I told her she shouldn't do it, but I didn't want her to go through more pain than she has already been through.

Of course, she didn't listen....and now that he is here....well, I know if he gets taken away I will be right in knowing she will be been heartbroken, but I am hoping somehow the State makes the right decision and grant my sister full custody of the child. Not even for my sisters happiness, but for the well being of this little boy...

You see, the biological mother of this child is a junkie that has been addicted to drugs and in and out of jail for over 10 years now. She already has one child, a girl, who she lost custody of because she kept getting high and passing out (she is a heroin junkie) and leaving the baby alone for many many hours, sometimes more than 24 hours....the baby would be alone, with a soiled diaper, hungry and cold...while the mother lay high out of her mind on the floor and this poor baby screamed. Child Protective services eventually found out due to the baby being malnourished and having open sores due to diaper rash...but the crazy thing is, they were going to let her have that child back! But the grandparents gave their daughter a lot of money and convinced her to sign her rights over....and she did.

Fast Forward three years later and this same woman has another baby, this time a boy and while in jail. My sister and my brother-in-law are now adopting said child...but only for a period of 6-12 months....this woman is getting out of jail in less than a month and if she passes her drug tests for a couple of months, they are going to give her custody back....

Is it terrible that I am hoping that this woman ends up using again or even dies (she has a lot of STDs, including a very bad case of hepatitis C so its unsure if she can be cured) just so this child won't potentially end up in this irresponsible woman's home?

And how do you stop yourself from thinking of this child as yours while you care for them? I'm not even his foster mother, just his aunt, and I have only been with him for 24 hours but already I am severely attached to him. I have accidentally called my sister "mommy" when talking to the baby and I know I shouldn't do that and I try to refrain....but it feels like that is how it should be. Every fiber of my being says that this child belongs to them...He even physically looks like their child, and strongly resembles the child they lost on Christmas so many years ago...

Ahh thats it..I've talked long enough. Thanks for listening, and if GLPers have any advice I'd love to here it. GLP is an interesting place with a lot of people from diverse backgrounds, so I always find the responses I get here to be intriguing. Thanks again!
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11/02/2013 05:53 AM
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That is tragic as they will obviously love the child. The mother will get out and reunite with the child and bring that child through hell. At some point the child will be returned to your sister damaged. It is not difficult to see where this goes. Your sister needs to push for the mother to permantly sever her parental ties. You can never take back what this child will be exposed to once the mother flits in to inject the poison into the child's world. I am already so sorry for your sister and this child's journey. The court system really needs to become an advocate for these children. Addicts should never be allowed to interfere in a child's upbringing. I actually gave up fighting for custody of my own brother's newborn son when I became aware that the fostercare system had placed him temporarily with his sibling that was adopted years earlier from the same mother. The courts removed my brother's son right at the hospital as they were afraid of abuse due to her behavior at the hospital, which lead to inquiry into the previous abuse that she lost her other child too. At first I fought, he should be with family, but then when I was told she wanted to adopt him, I had to really think what is best for this little boy. I knew the child was better off being away from potential contact with the parents, which unfortunately I knew if I was the guardian they would get access to him more easily through the courts. I knew that this other woman made the rules so difficult that the biological mother usually did not utilize her once a year visits with the other child. My brother's son has now been adopted and there is no contact thankfully for that sweet little boy with his biological mother, who is a truly disturbed individual. I, as well, knew at some point the court would step in to reunite the child and parents if he was placed with me and I could never have handled it. Every one should make choices for the benefit of the child solely and complete inaccess by harmful people whether they are their biological parents or not should be strictly adhered to. Your sister should push for full custody and sever all legal parental rights.
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11/02/2013 05:57 AM
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I went through the same thing with my niece. She was an addict and alcoholic. She had two children and CPS kept taking them from her and giving them back after a few months.

I took them both in three times in just over a year. They had two different fathers. One of the dads fought for the oldest and eventually won custody and moved to Florida. The youngest was left alone after that. He lived through hell, often sleeping in a car, or a new "boyfriend's" apartment.

It did break my heart every time they handed the kids back. I would worry about them constantly. By the third time they were taken, I told them I couldn't do it anymore and he was taken in by another relative. After a few weeks, I received a call by this relative saying they couldn't keep him. I relented and took him in again. His mother did everything she could to turn the boy against us. She claimed we were abusive. She tried to get her son to call CPS and make false claims against us because she wanted him in a group home, where she would be closer to visit him. I ended up recording her phone conversations, with the approval of the courts and used this to prove my innocence. By this time, the boy was now ten years old.

I had to endure counseling for him because it was court ordered. I had to travel three hours one way every time there was a hearing. I had to struggle a bit financially because he came to me without medical insurance and had some health issues and a broken arm. He had never seen a dentist.

After two years of dealing with all of this, they were once again planning on giving him back. This time, I hired an attorney to represent the child. We were fighting for custody when his mother died of an overdose at the age of 42.

The boy was relieved that he no longer had to worry about his mom. However, her death was traumatic for him and he ended up feeling guilty for being alive. At 16 he tried to commit suicide. We found him in time and got him help.

He's now in his early 20's and is turning out to be a decent young man. Do I regret taking him in? No. Was it hell on earth dealing with all of the baggage that came with him? Yes. However, I know he would have probably been dead years ago if I hadn't taken him in. I will never regret my decision.

I hope your sister doesn't have to go through what I did. I wish her well.
PJ
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11/02/2013 06:00 AM
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I know a crazy whore that is a foster mother.

She attacked a cop. Was put in a hospital and according to her was handcuffed to a bed and beaten for hours.

I doubt it's true, but I kind of hope it is.
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11/02/2013 06:27 AM
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Thanks kindly for the responses

whereisthecoffee - thank you for that. I will discuss this with my sister tomorrow, gently of course. She's such a kind person that I am sure that it would pain her to have to take such measures...but life isn't always sunshine and rainbows, and at this point, the well being of this child must be of the upmost concern...

PBJ - Thank you for your story, but it pains my heart to read it. You are such a good person for sacrificing your own personal happiness and health for another, but having been with this child I can certainly understand why. You struggled and went through hell, but in the end, you won...and that child is now safe and alive. I also hope my sister does not have to go through the same, but I will be with her every step of the way if she does.
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11/02/2013 07:21 AM
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"Have You Ever Been A Foster Parent/Aunt/Uncle/Grand Parent/Sibling??"

I know someone who was their own grandpa. Does that count?
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True. Working with the system can be raw. When youre a foster parent, your just a custodian. The system can come and take the kid(s) away whenever they see fit, with no advanced notice to you.

I know of a couple that were foster parents. They couldnt take the 'no notice' clause. They decided to adopt instead.
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11/02/2013 07:32 AM
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I do not foster parent; however, I am a certified foster parent ( I completed the 10 step program and recieved a certificate of completion ). Regardless, the State Dept. of Family Resources (for whatever state you reside) must first seek family resouces when a child is taken into protective custody. Next, the Dept. must seek "reunifiation" with the parent and/or parents. This takes (for obvious reasons) time. Lots of time. And, in most cases, a minimum of 6-8 months. Regardless, if the parent/parents are not fully compliant within this period; most state agencies will seek Termination of Parental rights and Permenant Placement (adoption). Now, here's where it gets a little dicey. First, most states require that the foster parents who provide residential care get the first shot (right of first refusal) at adoption. However, I have seen cases where a corrupt or biased Dept. give the child to someone other than the foster parents in the first instance; and allow another foster parent adopt. Why? BECAUSE, the placement TEAM with the state dept. must DECIDE ON Permenant placement; which in some cases can be arbitrary. If the Dept. does not follow protocol, you can contest the adoption (by other foster parents) in Court. It's called a "contested adoption". I hope this helps.
Elsabiades..
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11/02/2013 07:37 AM
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True. Working with the system can be raw. When youre a foster parent, your just a custodian. The system can come and take the kid(s) away whenever they see fit, with no advanced notice to you.

I know of a couple that were foster parents. They couldnt take the 'no notice' clause. They decided to adopt instead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49245343


fkkin system can come and take your natural kids the same and all without nothing beyond unsubstantiated claims.

but what the hell gives with these addicted POS mothers and the kids ?
why can't they have one second of sanity and let a direct relative give the kids a good home and visit their kids basically when they want --and by that i mean on weekends or come in for dinner with the familty etc etc ?

and these same BS asshole workers put the kids BACK into a WELL KNOWN bad situation-
where they end up DEAD.
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11/02/2013 07:44 AM
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I do not foster parent; however, I am a certified foster parent ( I completed the 10 step program and recieved a certificate of completion ). Regardless, the State Dept. of Family Resources (for whatever state you reside) must first seek family resouces when a child is taken into protective custody. Next, the Dept. must seek "reunifiation" with the parent and/or parents. This takes (for obvious reasons) time. Lots of time. And, in most cases, a minimum of 6-8 months. Regardless, if the parent/parents are not fully compliant within this period; most state agencies will seek Termination of Parental rights and Permenant Placement (adoption). Now, here's where it gets a little dicey. First, most states require that the foster parents who provide residential care get the first shot (right of first refusal) at adoption. However, I have seen cases where a corrupt or biased Dept. give the child to someone other than the foster parents in the first instance; and allow another foster parent adopt. Why? BECAUSE, the placement TEAM with the state dept. must DECIDE ON Permenant placement; which in some cases can be arbitrary. If the Dept. does not follow protocol, you can contest the adoption (by other foster parents) in Court. It's called a "contested adoption". I hope this helps.
 Quoting: Elsabiades..


these bastards KNOW finances are limited and court costs.
court's a normal procedure to THEM and their commodity.
for normal people litigation IS deadly.

sure they're gonna give the child to another as THE foster care family basically REHABBED the child,nurturing him or her =
so they take that 1 and expect the foster family to simply take in another.
Elsabiades..

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I do not foster parent; however, I am a certified foster parent ( I completed the 10 step program and recieved a certificate of completion ). Regardless, the State Dept. of Family Resources (for whatever state you reside) must first seek family resouces when a child is taken into protective custody. Next, the Dept. must seek "reunifiation" with the parent and/or parents. This takes (for obvious reasons) time. Lots of time. And, in most cases, a minimum of 6-8 months. Regardless, if the parent/parents are not fully compliant within this period; most state agencies will seek Termination of Parental rights and Permenant Placement (adoption). Now, here's where it gets a little dicey. First, most states require that the foster parents who provide residential care get the first shot (right of first refusal) at adoption. However, I have seen cases where a corrupt or biased Dept. give the child to someone other than the foster parents in the first instance; and allow another foster parent adopt. Why? BECAUSE, the placement TEAM with the state dept. must DECIDE ON Permenant placement; which in some cases can be arbitrary. If the Dept. does not follow protocol, you can contest the adoption (by other foster parents) in Court. It's called a "contested adoption". I hope this helps.
 Quoting: Elsabiades..


these bastards KNOW finances are limited and court costs.
court's a normal procedure to THEM and their commodity.
for normal people litigation IS deadly.

sure they're gonna give the child to another as THE foster care family basically REHABBED the child,nurturing him or her =
so they take that 1 and expect the foster family to simply take in another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49271689


What you say is true. For most parents, these court battles are cost prohibitive.
Elsabiades..





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