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Promising Comet ISON Gives Perplexing Performance En Route to Sun
by Joe Rao, SPACE.com Skywatching Columnist | October 31, 2013 04:33pm ET
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Bruce Gary of Hereford, Arizona obtained this a true color image of Comet ISON on Oct. 22, 2013, showing a greenish coma and reddish tail. The coma is now greener than the tail, which is also a result of the recent emission of gas to the coma. The coma is growing in size, as well as brightness. The tail will be slower to undergo change because it takes time for gas and dust in the coma to be swept into the tail.
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With just one month to go before its dramatic solar rendezvous, skirting to within a hairbreadth of the surface of the sun, Comet ISON continues to befuddle observers with its performance en route to the sun.

Based on a compilation of Comet ISON observations from observers worldwide as of Oct. 24, the comet, once proclaimed as possibly the "Comet of the Century" was running approximately 1.3 magnitudes, or 3.3 times fainter, than the "official" brightness forecast issued by the Minor Planet Center in Cambridge, Mass. As the comet comes down the home stretch of its long journey before finally grazing to within 730,000 miles (1.2 million kilometers) of the sun, great uncertainty continues regarding whether or not it will remain disappointingly dim or whether it will end up evolving into a spectacularly bright object.

Carl Hergenrother of the Lunar and Planetary Laboratory in Tucson, Ariz., noted that part of the uncertainty is due to what wavelengths the comet is observed in: "Visual and CCD-V observations do show a comet that is brightening at a normal rate (perhaps even faster than normal for a dynamically new comet) while CCD-R observations show a comet that is barely brightening at all. CCD-R sees predominately dust in contrast with visual and CCD-V, which have large gas components. It seems that over the past month or so ISON's gas production rate has increased as expected while its dust production rate has not," Hergenrother said. "I don't really know what this means but something has to give, either the dust production picks up or the gas production slows down." [Photos of Comet ISON: A Potentially Great Comet]


Looking weird

The highly regarded comet observer John Bortle is just as perplexed by the comet's recent appearance, commenting that the recent images along with his own visual impression, is "downright weird." He adds that, "There is a bright, miniature, long-tailed comet situated within a much larger, but very much fainter and diffuse halo of a coma."

"Those visual people using larger telescope also often remark about the odd way the comet looks, while those using relatively small scopes and big binoculars report seeing a larger, more-or-less faint but uniform cometary mass," he added. "This comet is currently at a distance from the sun where it should no longer exhibit such a dichotomy of appearance.”

Bortle has observed several hundred comets and yet, he writes, "At this stage of the game, with the comet about to cross the orbit of Earth, I cannot recall any previous comet in my 50-plus years of comet observing looking quite like this. So, what does ISON's current look foretell, or mean? I honestly don't know. All I can say is I don't like the odd look of it at this time."

One step forward, one step back

Around Oct. 19, ISON seemed to suddenly brighten at a more rapid pace. On Oct. 21, Arizona observer Bruce Gary (who was the first to image the comet after it emerged from out of the glare of the sun on Aug. 12) wrote, "The comet (coma plus tail) continues a dramatic brightening trend that started Oct 19. The inner coma has brightened (due perhaps to an outburst of gases). This next week could be busy - and exciting!" [Potentially Dazzling Comet ISON: 8 Essential Facts]

But just four days later, with the comet showing signs of fading a bit rather than brightening, Gary, sounding almost a bit exasperated commented, "I don't know what's going on with this comet!"

Analyzing all the observations made since Sept. 4 shows that ISON is responding to the sun more like a solid body would respond, rather than as a typical "fluffy" comet.

Time Running Out

Whatever is happening, Comet ISON continues on its way in toward the sun and will cross the Earth's orbit on Wednesday (Oct. 30) at 6 p.m. EDT (22:00 GMT).
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You morons still don't get it..

ISON wont bring doom in itself, its just a marker for the beginning of the 7 year tribulation starting early next year (look into blood moon tetrads) which will follow a major war in the middle east involving Israel in which it will rebuild the 3rd temple. The final 3 and a half years of tribulation starts on September 23, 2017.

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it's not about "hitting" Earth

it's about something else....
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catalyst, in general.
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You morons still don't get it..

ISON wont bring doom in itself, its just a marker for the beginning of the 7 year tribulation starting early next year (look into blood moon tetrads) which will follow a major war in the middle east involving Israel in which it will rebuild the 3rd temple. The final 3 and a half years of tribulation starts on September 23, 2017.
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Morons you say........(quotes bible)........
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it's not about "hitting" Earth

it's about something else....
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catalyst, in general.
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Electrical and highly charged.
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You morons still don't get it..

ISON wont bring doom in itself, its just a marker for the beginning of the 7 year tribulation starting early next year (look into blood moon tetrads) which will follow a major war in the middle east involving Israel in which it will rebuild the 3rd temple. The final 3 and a half years of tribulation starts on September 23, 2017.
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Morons you say........(quotes bible)........
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First of jackass, I did not quote the Bible, and even if I did, so what? it's the single greatest book in the history of mankind. Suck on that bitch.

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You morons still don't get it..

ISON wont bring doom in itself, its just a marker for the beginning of the 7 year tribulation starting early next year (look into blood moon tetrads) which will follow a major war in the middle east involving Israel in which it will rebuild the 3rd temple. The final 3 and a half years of tribulation starts on September 23, 2017.
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Morons you say........(quotes bible)........
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First of jackass, I did not quote the Bible, and even if I did, so what? it's the single greatest book in the history of mankind. Suck on that bitch.
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i think he was referring to how the bible has been selectively given to the public... edited and chopped up
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it's not about "hitting" Earth

it's about something else....
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Interaction with the sun
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bump for MSM traction.

Where are all the journalists ? - where are the curious questions to NASA ? - where are all the scientists ?
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Curiously, ISON begins rotation on news cycles. Watch for obligatory comparisons to Elenin.
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it's not about "hitting" Earth

it's about something else....
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Interaction with the sun
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You morons still don't get it..

ISON wont bring doom in itself, its just a marker for the beginning of the 7 year tribulation starting early next year (look into blood moon tetrads) which will follow a major war in the middle east involving Israel in which it will rebuild the 3rd temple. The final 3 and a half years of tribulation starts on September 23, 2017.
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Morons you say........(quotes bible)........
norespect
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First of jackass, I did not quote the Bible, and even if I did, so what? it's the single greatest book in the history of mankind. Suck on that bitch.
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i think he was referring to how the bible has been selectively given to the public... edited and chopped up
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Yeah if you say so historian cum archeologist. Not. Now roll over and give your input on stuff you actually know about instead of regurgitating crap from the liberal media.
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it's not about "hitting" Earth

it's about something else....
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catalyst, in general.
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Electrical and highly charged.
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My thoughts too. Which is why they are 'seeing' strange things occurring. The scientists never want to take in the electrical components of something like this, which is why they have so many 'mysteries' that they cannot solve.

I looked at the closest distance and it will still be VERY far from Earth's magnetosphere, but that is if it keeps it's same state.

What if it does a Comet Holmes and its electromagnetic field links up with Earth's magnetosphere. Will a circuit be created?

What is funny, is even on wiki, they have Comet Holmes eventual size 'impossible' because it cannot contain enough dust or particles for such a large field of influence. Larger than anything in the entire solar system at the time. That is because it is not dust particles that they are seeing. It is basically a plasma sphere went beyond its own containment until it fizzled out.
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You morons still don't get it..

ISON wont bring doom in itself, its just a marker for the beginning of the 7 year tribulation starting early next year (look into blood moon tetrads) which will follow a major war in the middle east involving Israel in which it will rebuild the 3rd temple. The final 3 and a half years of tribulation starts on September 23, 2017.
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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, bible in the thread=BS.
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it's not about "hitting" Earth

it's about something else....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49341648


catalyst, in general.
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Electrical and highly charged.
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My thoughts too. Which is why they are 'seeing' strange things occurring. The scientists never want to take in the electrical components of something like this, which is why they have so many 'mysteries' that they cannot solve.

I looked at the closest distance and it will still be VERY far from Earth's magnetosphere, but that is if it keeps it's same state.

What if it does a Comet Holmes and its electromagnetic field links up with Earth's magnetosphere. Will a circuit be created?

What is funny, is even on wiki, they have Comet Holmes eventual size 'impossible' because it cannot contain enough dust or particles for such a large field of influence. Larger than anything in the entire solar system at the time. That is because it is not dust particles that they are seeing. It is basically a plasma sphere went beyond its own containment until it fizzled out.
 Quoting: Spin Nips

The current colour is telling, it has the same colour as an ark wielder which uses an insanely high voltage and amps.
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You morons still don't get it..

ISON wont bring doom in itself, its just a marker for the beginning of the 7 year tribulation starting early next year (look into blood moon tetrads) which will follow a major war in the middle east involving Israel in which it will rebuild the 3rd temple. The final 3 and a half years of tribulation starts on September 23, 2017.
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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, bible in the thread=BS.
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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, moron in the thread=BS
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Can we observe ISON tomorrow DURING THE SOLAR ECLIPSE?
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No.
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Yo, have we had any feed back from the Mars rover or the satellite we have orbiting Mars?
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Excellent question!...Is there anything from the Mars satellites, or rovers??
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'science doesn't know everything' wow. stop the press.
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They don't, but then why do they keep repeating the mantra snow ball snow ball snow ball, don't they have other balls to admit they don't know everything? banana2
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"Mars Glowing-the real reason for the Government shutdown?"

[link to ronaldwederfoort.blogspot.co.uk]
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Yo, have we had any feed back from the Mars rover or the satellite we have orbiting Mars?
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Excellent question!...Is there anything from the Mars satellites, or rovers??
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or is NASA waiting on the 'Mars pioneers' to locate the rover and change its battery?
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I think the article is saying at what looked like a mass of just loosely packed mud and ice ( ie comet) is now looking like it has more body to it ( ie nickel iron asteroid )

.Meaning that when it approaches the sun nothing will happen because there is not enough material to melt away and reflect light.

Normally they do not see a mass in space with both comet and asteroid density's and that is the oddity.

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bump for MSM traction.

Where are all the journalists ? - where are the curious questions to NASA ? - where are all the scientists ?
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Curiously, ISON begins rotation on news cycles. Watch for obligatory comparisons to Elenin.
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Would be nice - then perhaps they could also inquire a bit about Elenin's strange behavior .... or intelligent control.

...and while they are at it perhaps they should look at alignments and earthquakes and the correlation here that several researchers has pointed out.
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Promising Comet ISON Gives Perplexing Performance En Route to Sun
by Joe Rao, SPACE.com Skywatching Columnist | October 31, 2013 04:33pm ET
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Bruce Gary of Hereford, Arizona obtained this a true color image of Comet ISON on Oct. 22, 2013, showing a greenish coma and reddish tail. The coma is now greener than the tail, which is also a result of the recent emission of gas to the coma. The coma is growing in size, as well as brightness. The tail will be slower to undergo change because it takes time for gas and dust in the coma to be swept into the tail.
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With just one month to go before its dramatic solar rendezvous, skirting to within a hairbreadth of the surface of the sun, Comet ISON continues to befuddle observers with its performance en route to the sun.

Based on a compilation of Comet ISON observations from observers worldwide as of Oct. 24, the comet, once proclaimed as possibly the "Comet of the Century" was running approximately 1.3 magnitudes, or 3.3 times fainter, than the "official" brightness forecast issued by the Minor Planet Center in Cambridge, Mass. As the comet comes down the home stretch of its long journey before finally grazing to within 730,000 miles (1.2 million kilometers) of the sun, great uncertainty continues regarding whether or not it will remain disappointingly dim or whether it will end up evolving into a spectacularly bright object.

Carl Hergenrother of the Lunar and Planetary Laboratory in Tucson, Ariz., noted that part of the uncertainty is due to what wavelengths the comet is observed in: "Visual and CCD-V observations do show a comet that is brightening at a normal rate (perhaps even faster than normal for a dynamically new comet) while CCD-R observations show a comet that is barely brightening at all. CCD-R sees predominately dust in contrast with visual and CCD-V, which have large gas components. It seems that over the past month or so ISON's gas production rate has increased as expected while its dust production rate has not," Hergenrother said. "I don't really know what this means but something has to give, either the dust production picks up or the gas production slows down." [Photos of Comet ISON: A Potentially Great Comet]


Looking weird

The highly regarded comet observer John Bortle is just as perplexed by the comet's recent appearance, commenting that the recent images along with his own visual impression, is "downright weird." He adds that, "There is a bright, miniature, long-tailed comet situated within a much larger, but very much fainter and diffuse halo of a coma."

"Those visual people using larger telescope also often remark about the odd way the comet looks, while those using relatively small scopes and big binoculars report seeing a larger, more-or-less faint but uniform cometary mass," he added. "This comet is currently at a distance from the sun where it should no longer exhibit such a dichotomy of appearance.”

Bortle has observed several hundred comets and yet, he writes, "At this stage of the game, with the comet about to cross the orbit of Earth, I cannot recall any previous comet in my 50-plus years of comet observing looking quite like this. So, what does ISON's current look foretell, or mean? I honestly don't know. All I can say is I don't like the odd look of it at this time."

One step forward, one step back

Around Oct. 19, ISON seemed to suddenly brighten at a more rapid pace. On Oct. 21, Arizona observer Bruce Gary (who was the first to image the comet after it emerged from out of the glare of the sun on Aug. 12) wrote, "The comet (coma plus tail) continues a dramatic brightening trend that started Oct 19. The inner coma has brightened (due perhaps to an outburst of gases). This next week could be busy - and exciting!" [Potentially Dazzling Comet ISON: 8 Essential Facts]

But just four days later, with the comet showing signs of fading a bit rather than brightening, Gary, sounding almost a bit exasperated commented, "I don't know what's going on with this comet!"

uhohAnalyzing all the observations made since Sept. 4 shows that ISON is responding to the sun more like a solid body would respond, rather than as a typical "fluffy" comet.

Time Running Out

Whatever is happening, Comet ISON continues on its way in toward the sun and will cross the Earth's orbit on Wednesday (Oct. 30) at 6 p.m. EDT (22:00 GMT).
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translation : it could hit earth ...or not !!

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No that is not what it means. The orbit is predictable.
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translation : it could hit earth ...or not !!

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No that is not what it means. The orbit is predictable.
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Astro, I'm glad you made it!...What are the details on the Mars rover and satellites?? Any info still coming in??
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translation : it could hit earth ...or not !!

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Astro, I'm glad you made it!...What are the details on the Mars rover and satellites?? Any info still coming in??





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