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Two Witnesses of Revelation 11.3 and the Branch

 
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What does it mean?
 Quoting: natalie


"abstract logic"

it means your mind
is looking for patterns;
with experience you learn
what is pattern and not.

~H
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47676226


Some patterns are perfect, would you like an example?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


numbers ?

do you have an example ?
 Quoting: rekameohsnad


"electronically 1/0 patterned example"

numbers, like music and words
are an expression of the abstract
where process takes place in our mind;
in perfect patterns the symbols make magic.

that my birthday is today
yet really next month,
is a perfect pattern or not?
only thing matters is truth.

was it heard in front the council
as we witnessed social agony?
marginalized, stigmatized and blamed
for vultures to feed on us in the streets

only god knows
what we found out;
if our pebble of truth
makes a tsunami of justice.

~H

meditate on the wine and oil
the signifficance is indeed
a pattern fitting the weave;
perfection unobtainable under foot.
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The olive branch symbolizes peace and reconciliation. In the context of Revelations 11 it stands for a last offer of reconciliation to the jews by God...which only some of them will accept, the vast majority will follow the antichrist into eternal damnation.
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[link to www.savethemales.ca]

Is the New World Order "Jewish"?

February 12, 2005

The majority of Jews would want no part of the New World Order a.k.a. "globalization" if they understood its undemocratic character and how they are being used.

The true Jewish spirit holds that truth and morality are absolute and cannot be trimmed to fit one's perceived self interest. G.J. Nueberger expresses this spirit in his essay "The Great Gulf Between Zionism and Judaism."

....."The Jewish people are chosen not for domination over others, not for conquest or warfare, but to serve G-d and thus to serve mankind...Thus physical violence is not a tradition or a value of the Jews. The task for which the Jewish people were chosen is not to set an example of military superiority or technical achievements, but to seek perfection in moral behaviour and spiritual purity.

Of all the crimes of political Zionism, the worst and most basic, and which explains all its other misdeeds, is that from its beginning Zionism has sought to separate the Jewish people from their G-d, to render the divine covenant null and void, and to substitute a "modern" statehood and fraudulent sovereignty for the lofty ideals of the Jewish people."

The bankers obviously aren't concerned about true Judaism or racial purity and were quite willing to sacrifice millions of Jews to achieve their design by backing Hitler. They are sacrificing thousands more Jewish, American and Muslim lives in the Middle East in their Orwellian "perpetual war for perpetual peace."

Does the New World Order serve a "Jewish" agenda or a banker elite agenda?

I would venture that it serves the latter, and the Jewish people are an instrument of this agenda like so many other people.

By giving private individuals the ability to create money out of nothing, we have created a monster which threatens to devour the planet and with it the human race.
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The olive branch symbolizes peace and reconciliation. In the context of Revelations 11 it stands for a last offer of reconciliation to the jews by God...which only some of them will accept, the vast majority will follow the antichrist into eternal damnation.
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[link to www.savethemales.ca]

Is the New World Order "Jewish"?

February 12, 2005

The majority of Jews would want no part of the New World Order a.k.a. "globalization" if they understood its undemocratic character and how they are being used.

The true Jewish spirit holds that truth and morality are absolute and cannot be trimmed to fit one's perceived self interest. G.J. Nueberger expresses this spirit in his essay "The Great Gulf Between Zionism and Judaism."

....."The Jewish people are chosen not for domination over others, not for conquest or warfare, but to serve G-d and thus to serve mankind...Thus physical violence is not a tradition or a value of the Jews. The task for which the Jewish people were chosen is not to set an example of military superiority or technical achievements, but to seek perfection in moral behaviour and spiritual purity.

Of all the crimes of political Zionism, the worst and most basic, and which explains all its other misdeeds, is that from its beginning Zionism has sought to separate the Jewish people from their G-d, to render the divine covenant null and void, and to substitute a "modern" statehood and fraudulent sovereignty for the lofty ideals of the Jewish people."

The bankers obviously aren't concerned about true Judaism or racial purity and were quite willing to sacrifice millions of Jews to achieve their design by backing Hitler. They are sacrificing thousands more Jewish, American and Muslim lives in the Middle East in their Orwellian "perpetual war for perpetual peace."

Does the New World Order serve a "Jewish" agenda or a banker elite agenda?

I would venture that it serves the latter, and the Jewish people are an instrument of this agenda like so many other people.

By giving private individuals the ability to create money out of nothing, we have created a monster which threatens to devour the planet and with it the human race.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49849159


"greed has no creed"

how can you speak like this
in the context of the last
offering of reconciliation?
discrimination is a problem.

~H
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D- you have my permission to post my email reply to you. Please edit names for privacy's sake. I'm mobile right now and it messes up the message flow badly. hf
 Quoting: ByFaithAlone


Please reconsider.
 Quoting: bigD111


I dont understand what I need to reconsider. It can be posted so others can test it I dont mind.
 Quoting: ByFaithAlone


Hopefully, I did this right.






God will not let you ramble in distress that is fact. There is a spirit raging through that thread over the coarse of at least the last 3 days. I can confirm from my experience and I bet you ------ can also. She very well may see it for what it really is spiritual warfare. Silence is not golden we are called to test and if we test and something does not pass with flying colors we disregard it as fallacy. Very simply I do not know I have not been called to know whether she is male or female. What purpose does it serve? Is it good, holy, and lovely in the eyes of the Lord? The concept of a feminine holy spirit holds its roots in in hebrew in the bible text translated back to root render it Rauch. That is a feminine root and from which all the other teachings stem. Let me send you a link to the Nag Hammadi texts it will clarify what they saw her role as. This is also parroted almost line for line in the gospel of Thomas. The significance if you are not familiar with these works is that it is gnostic at its very core all centered around a female holy spirit. Her name is Sophia meaning wisdom in greek and this is exactly how she presents to you.





This is the flow in the gnostics

Gnosis - experiential knowledge
Sophia - wisdom
Wisdom - gnosis understood


Gnosis understood=You are Gods




Here is the link from the Nag Hammadi library- [link to gnosis.org]

Notice where it states be on your guard.




If we stick to textual accounts in our bible we have these:

But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. John 14:26





and again in 15:26-But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me











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 Quoting: bigD111


Dear ByFaithAlone,

I believe you are correct, what we experience here is spiritual warfare as is foretold in Revelation 12:7-9 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Satan knows his time is short. Thus, you are correct. It is imperative that we keep close to to Holy Scripture as truth and not deviate from it.

It is critical in these times (as it will be moving forward) to support and protect our brothers and sisters and uphold truth. Not letting falsehood or fallacy infiltrate, according to what the Spirit has shown us and Holy Scripture.

May God Bless you,

RockyMtnLady

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Yes, I really liked her answer. My asking her to reconsider was because I wasn't sure I knew how to post it from my email! I am not much of a computer geek!
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I've really been challenged by this thread just wanted to say and appreciate you starting it RockyMntLady. I'm getting a lot of understanding I have to work at putting it to words but just wanted to clarify a few things.
First I want to retract my accusations of the blanket statement that PerJeshua is a false prophet until I clarify a few things. I see his view of the new testament era is good. He has done a lot of study there and I'm going to revisit it. I still have to keep asking though are these people, him included still thinking he is one of the 2 witnesses? Is that what I am still understanding?
And maybe then could you people just comment on how you're seeing the bottomless pit and the 5th and 6th trumpet judgements? Keep it short as possible please. To much information...trying to absorb it all.
I'm really seeng the 2 witnesses testifying over a long periode of time. The picture of the tornado and Ezekiels wheel are very appropriate. Not in the physical but is the picture the whirlwind, the wheel inside the wheel of the judgement, the purging of the house that God carries out. These moves cycle, there have been many as the whirlwind keeps swirling and growing. Today at what sure seems to be the end it is big, really big. We are in the process somewhere on the journey through our wilderness as is shown in the book of Revelation, the Revelation of Jesus Christ.

I see it as the earthquake, as the times that God moves on his house. We're in the big one at the end I believe. I also se the 2 witness manchild, 144000 pattern has cycled before I believe we are in the big one at the end.

I'm just saying I'm learning along with the rest of you here. We all need to stay open to what God is doing. Something is going on here.

But really please tell me you don't actually believe the Norway guy is one of the 2 witnesses please.
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Rev_11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

This reference to the "tenth part" is talking about the first fruits, the tithe, the 144,000 as they are offered as spotless sacrifice.

Isa_6:13 But yet in it shall be a tenth, and it shall return, and shall be eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, when they cast their leaves: so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof.

The tenth part returns.

Those who pass under the Shephards Rod and are inspected and marked, a tenth are set aside for th tithe, the spotless offering, firstfruits of your oblations.

Eze 20:34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.
Eze 20:35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.
Eze 20:36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD.
Eze 20:37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:
Eze 20:38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
Eze 20:39 As for you, O house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; Go ye, serve ye every one his idols, and hereafter also, if ye will not hearken unto me: but pollute ye my holy name no more with your gifts, and with your idols.
Eze 20:40 For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things.
Eze 20:41 I will accept you with your sweet savour, when I bring you out from the people, and gather you out of the countries wherein ye have been scattered; and I will be sanctified in you before the heathen.
Eze 20:42 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall bring you into the land of Israel, into the country for the which I lifted up mine hand to give it to your fathers.
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Zechariah says the BRANCH will build the temple....Who was building the physical temple in zechzriah? Two were building the physical temple Joshua the priest and zerubbable tbe governor from judah. They represent the two who will build and unite the spiritual temple in the end as the two witnesses......Read jeremiah 23 and 33....23 speaks of the masculine side of the Branch and jeremiah 33 speaks of the feminine side of the Branch because in jeremiah 23 the branch is stated "HE shall be called the lord our righteosness" and in Jeremiah 33 the branch is introduced as "SHE" shall be called the lord our righteousness. THE TWO WITNESSES ARE THE BRANCH NOT JUST ONE. just as when the two housed of isreal (judah and ephraim) are joined back together the 2 houses become one ane will again be known as Israel my firstborn son

Each witness represents one house of israel.....one judah and the other ephraim....and if reading isaiah chapter 40's you can see the servant being called jacob and the other israel.....jacob came forth from israel just as eve came forth from adam just as Jesus came forth from the Father....the bible pattern is one become 2 and then 2 become one again.

judahandephraim1
 Quoting: waterman


The Two Witnesses of Rev 11.3 are not the Branch. The Branch is the Man-Child.

RockyMtnLady
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Who is the man child?

The Nobody?

He told me, "......it's an Operation Slammer mind control scripted thing......and, he's not playing the game anymore...".

We need definitive divine light from God......to tell us what is the truth and what is not.

Bible....seems to create too too too many debates, arguments, etc.

Can't be divine.......if it creates so much confusion.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49849159


John 17:17 Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.
Jesus is the Word of God og and "the way, the truth and the life" (Joh. 1:1; 14:6). When this true Word is preached and taught correctly, and, in addition, understood and believed, then it becomes a regenerating spirit in all those that believe (2. Tim. 2:15; 1. Cor. 15:45). In this way the letter becomes spirit and water, and from this follows sanctification and cleansing "with the washing of water by the word" (Eph. 5:26). Without this sanctification no one shall see the Lord (Heb. 12:14), so each and everyone should therefore seek to partake of it through obedience to the truth and through faith in God's true gospel, the everlasting (1. Pet. 1:22; Rev. 14:6). Since the spirit gives life, while the letter kills, we must in faith and trust in the Word of God allow it to become spirit and life in us (2. Cor. 3:6; Joh. 6:63).

RockyMtnLady
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I've really been challenged by this thread just wanted to say and appreciate you starting it RockyMntLady. I'm getting a lot of understanding I have to work at putting it to words but just wanted to clarify a few things.
First I want to retract my accusations of the blanket statement that PerJeshua is a false prophet until I clarify a few things. I see his view of the new testament era is good. He has done a lot of study there and I'm going to revisit it. I still have to keep asking though are these people, him included still thinking he is one of the 2 witnesses? Is that what I am still understanding?
And maybe then could you people just comment on how you're seeing the bottomless pit and the 5th and 6th trumpet judgements? Keep it short as possible please. To much information...trying to absorb it all.
I'm really seeng the 2 witnesses testifying over a long periode of time. The picture of the tornado and Ezekiels wheel are very appropriate. Not in the physical but is the picture the whirlwind, the wheel inside the wheel of the judgement, the purging of the house that God carries out. These moves cycle, there have been many as the whirlwind keeps swirling and growing. Today at what sure seems to be the end it is big, really big. We are in the process somewhere on the journey through our wilderness as is shown in the book of Revelation, the Revelation of Jesus Christ.

I see it as the earthquake, as the times that God moves on his house. We're in the big one at the end I believe. I also se the 2 witness manchild, 144000 pattern has cycled before I believe we are in the big one at the end.

I'm just saying I'm learning along with the rest of you here. We all need to stay open to what God is doing. Something is going on here.

But really please tell me you don't actually believe the Norway guy is one of the 2 witnesses please.
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Hi Chris,

Please be specific and indicate when/where PehJeshuah has been false.

RockyMtnLady
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God has been softly speaking to me using the numbers 444 throughout my entire life. Each time when I pay attention I avert disaster. I also use his subtle messages to know when to help others and bless them.

With that being said - Be cautious when seeking out understanding through numbers and astrology. Satan can use them as a tool to deceive you. Be informed, but don't let it guide you. This is not a judgment from me. I pass judgment on no one.

I am still debating on talking about what I have been seeing. Someone asked if I had a spiritual awakening. I have been spiritually awake since I was a child. Lately it has just become extremely intensified. I have deleted multiple fully prepared posts on these forums over the course of a few years before hitting the post button. I have hesitation talking about what I see. Most of this is due to people possibly misinterpreting me as boasting about myself, when my condition I believe comes from God.

I am having full blown visions while awake. I stop breathing during them. I come out in tears and weep for what I see.

I have been understanding the language of birds since last October of 2012. It is not constant. It fades in and out each day. Birds have been gathering every morning on my window sill in my kitchen. I believe their outwardly communication is Gods way of trying to pacify my loneliness and heartache for what I see. I also believe it has transpired in part due to visits by whom I believe is the angel Gabriel in my dreams.

Ever since the visits from this angel I have been in some sort of spiritual struggle. I am being harassed by demonic forces, but also being protected by angelic ones. I pray that god doesn't ever forsake me, because I could not do this alone.

I got on my knees and prayed after stopping myself from posting earlier today. I want to make sure I do the right thing. I am not sure how much I should reveal about what I see. I worry that I could accidently misguide others or bring about an opening for the spirit of fear.

I also have the concern that once I post more - everything is going to get very real for me. I see and sense agents of the beast on this forum in very large numbers. I am warned to be weary and discerning.

I will keep my message as simple as possible.

The angel Gabriel has been telling me to prepare for the coming of the paraclete. He is talking to me about being responsible for a world prayer. He is telling me to allow god to lay his hands on me. He is not the only angel I have encountered.

I saw a seperate angel whom I believe broke a seal last 2/14/13. I do not know this angels name. This is associated with the meteor that hit Russia that happened right after my vision. I will give you this, because I believe it to be something everyone needs to be aware of. Do not be fearful. Be vigilant in Christ:

I was laying in bed and went into a vision. I was no longer in my room. I was standing at the top of a red mountain. In front of me was a man in white garbs. His hair was black and wavy. I did not see his face. He stood before me looking over a large valley. The man in front of me looked up to the sky, then kneeled down and kissed the earth before him as if he was in prayer. The man in white then stood up. He clapped his hands together and I heard the sounds of thunder. It was like a giant sonic boom. The man then put his hands forward with palms facing outward. Suddenly, a meteor broke the atmosphere and slammed into the earth. It shattered in one huge line forward. A giant dust cloud enveloped everything. I suddenly heard a voice say a word that sounded like Israel. I snapped out of my vision and came to in tears.

The meteor that hit the Ural mountains in Russia made a sonic boom like the one that I heard. Although I may have just had some sort of futuristic vision, I believe there is more to this. I have many more visions which are riddled in symbolism and are like a broken up puzzle that I am putting together piece by piece.

Circumcise your hearts in Christ. Things are about to change. If God tells me to share more through his subtle touch - I shall do so. In the meanwhile be kind and love eachother. Worry less about the power of the witnesses and have pity for them. Do not idolize them. They are only going to be an extension of God's love for each of us. Be more concerned about getting your relationship with Christ seated. You are all special.

I truly believe that Tribulation may be upon us.
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Thank you for feeling comfortable to share your experience with us.

I relate to aspects of this, but I am withholding for the time being.

I agree we are each very special. No one is "more special" than anyone else.

The everlasting gospel is indeed what we need to be focused on right now. Making things right with our Saviour, Jesus Christ.

Please know that the gospel will be preached to the nations and around the earth before the great tribulation, however, times ahead will be changing, and changing quickly.

May God Bless you,
RockyMtnLady
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Thanks RML for starting this thread.

I am still working my way through the shadows and darkness that surrounds us, trying to get closer to that tiny little spot of light I can see far away from where I stand at the moment.

I just want to add my little 2 cents to your thread, if you would allow me.

The more I watch debates regarding religion(s), prophecies and spiritualism, the more I see the division and hatred infiltrating them. But what is the common roots allowing darkness in? The fact that we are all trying to explain / interpret / appropriate the scriptures and their meaning.

The only root that most people have in common despite the need to explain how their interpretation of the scriptures is the correct one, or the most accurate, is the respect for Jesus.

I took a little step back for a while from the debates here to look for books and documents only dealing with the teachings of Christ. Best.idea.ever.

And what did I find in those teachings that was so special?

Nothing.
I will repeat that.
Nothing.

I found a humble man preaching how to be a man.
I found a shepherd (leader) who led people with kindness and universal truth rather than force and deceit.
I found a teacher who wasn't afraid to stand against the schools in place.
I found a judge who wasn't afraid of adjusting the laws if it was for the good of others.
I found a philosopher who preferred to plant the seed of an idea and let the people water it and grow it for them to harvest it, rather than feeding them a rotten fruit.

When you look at a scale, there is always a point in the middle that allows it to be balanced and function properly, regardless of what weights you have on the left or the right. That is how today I would represent Christ and that is where I believe we should all try to be.

The topics of the 2 witnesses, man child, 144,000 are very close to my heart and I truly hope that soon we will all hear that new song, but will we be able to understand it?

I think we should all meditate a little on the last post from AC

"Circumcise your hearts in Christ. Things are about to change. If God tells me to share more through his subtle touch - I shall do so. In the meanwhile be kind and love each other. Worry less about the power of the witnesses and have pity for them. Do not idolize them. They are only going to be an extension of God's love for each of us. Be more concerned about getting your relationship with Christ seated. You are all special."

One Love,
D.
 Quoting: ExploringTheTruth


Hi D.,

So good to see you back. I agree solitude is necessary for deep revelation, thus, on this thread, I will periodically be stepping away.

However, I would like to keep contact w/ my brothers and sisters as I think we need to be there for one another.

Right now, I am to "speak" but if my history gives any indication of the future, I will be taking time away also.

I am happy you are here. I pray for you.

May God Bless you,
RockyMtnLady
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Yes, I really liked her answer. My asking her to reconsider was because I wasn't sure I knew how to post it from my email! I am not much of a computer geek!
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You did wonderful and thank you for doing that for me when I could not!hf
“The most important things are the hardest to say. They are the things you get ashamed of, because words diminish them -- words shrink things that seemed limitless when they were in your head to no more than living size when they're brought out. But it's more than that, isn't it? The most important things lie too close to wherever your secret heart is buried, like landmarks to a treasure your enemies would love to steal away. And you may make revelations that cost you dearly only to have people look at you in a funny way, not understanding what you've said at all, or why you thought it was so important that you almost cried while you were saying it. That's the worst, I think. When the secret stays locked within not for want of a tellar but for want of an understanding ear.” Stephen King
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Yes, I really liked her answer. My asking her to reconsider was because I wasn't sure I knew how to post it from my email! I am not much of a computer geek!
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You did wonderful and thank you for doing that for me when I could not!hf
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What was wonderful was your intelligent answer! I feel very humble around you gals.
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Yes, I really liked her answer. My asking her to reconsider was because I wasn't sure I knew how to post it from my email! I am not much of a computer geek!
 Quoting: bigD111


You did wonderful and thank you for doing that for me when I could not!hf
 Quoting: ByFaithAlone


What was wonderful was your intelligent answer! I feel very humble around you gals.
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Anyone have an opinion on these verses.

Psalm 110:3 Your people shall be volunteers
In the day of your power;
In the beauties of holiness, from the womb of the morning
You have the dew of Your youth.

Psalm 110:4 The Lord has sworn
And will not relent
"You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek."
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Yes, I really liked her answer. My asking her to reconsider was because I wasn't sure I knew how to post it from my email! I am not much of a computer geek!
 Quoting: bigD111


You did wonderful and thank you for doing that for me when I could not!hf
 Quoting: ByFaithAlone


What was wonderful was your intelligent answer! I feel very humble around you gals.
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Anyone have an opinion on these verses.

Psalm 110:3 Your people shall be volunteers
In the day of your power;
In the beauties of holiness, from the womb of the morning
You have the dew of Your youth.

Psalm 110:4 The Lord has sworn
And will not relent
"You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek."
 Quoting: bigD111

One of my very favorite psalms :)

Verses 2 and 3 here serve to amplify the message sent in verse 1-
The Lord said to my Lord,Sit at My right hand,Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.

This is a very pure example where translation falls flat on it face honestly it is a pity in my eyes that most are never able to truely see the beauty. The word said or says rendered in our english translations. The hebrew word is actually ne'um and in every single instance where it is used in our scriptures it denotes a devine utterance by God. Translated into literal meaning the passage is as follows-The oracle of Yahweh to my lord. What follow is God's direct message to His King.

David is writing here not just as a poet he is fully prophetic and the flow is true to his form and style of writing. Verse 1 summarizes what is to follow. So verse one is God speaking directly to David's Lord and in that moment makes very clear His status as a co-ruler. To sit at God right hand is to share His position and power.

Verse 2-The Lord shall send the rod of Your strength out of Zion.Rule in the midst of Your enemies!

Verse 2 is much more negative than verse 3. Some translation render rod of Your strength into scepter. The passing of a scepter denotes a passing of a King's right to rule. Rule in the midst of Your enemies!-Consider the persecution He faced while He was here. Verse 1 tells us how long He will rule in this capacity until His enemys are made a footstool.

Verse 3 Your people shall be volunteers. In the day of Your power;In the beauties of holiness, from the womb of the morning,You have the dew of Your youth.

We are God's people.Called but choosing in free will to follow. Willingness to volunteer denotes holiness and priestly garb on one side warriors on the other. People that are led not forced,coerced. There is a passage in Hosea stating Behold, I will allure her. This is people taking up the yoke of Christ and Him leading them. This is a multitude of people and flows into the final statement you have the dew of your youth. Fresh young, clean with gleaming faces the a band of warriors standing pure in the midst of ugliness and war. Dew is formed in the night during the silence when most men sleep. Night here is again a spiritual reference for the great falling away. From the womb of the morning- is referencing the passing of night a birth into a new light and a world that is awakened to the Truths we hold so closely.

Verse 4 The Lord has sworn And will not relent,
“You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek.

Melchizedek is a very interesting person to study his reign is the epitome of mirroring in Christ. A priest for all not just Israel,both a king and a priest one of few who combined offices and roles in that way. His origin and final destiny are not known and fall under very mysterious circumstances while his reign had no distinct beginning or end which further compounds the mystery that surrounded him.

These four lines when put together reflect all the way from Genesis to the book of Revelation and help to form the thread that ties the purpose of everything together.

This hope we have as an anchor of the soul, a hope both sure and steadfast and one which enters within the veil, where Jesus has entered as a forerunner for us, having become a high priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek- Hebrews 6:19-20

HE is our blessed hope forever!
“The most important things are the hardest to say. They are the things you get ashamed of, because words diminish them -- words shrink things that seemed limitless when they were in your head to no more than living size when they're brought out. But it's more than that, isn't it? The most important things lie too close to wherever your secret heart is buried, like landmarks to a treasure your enemies would love to steal away. And you may make revelations that cost you dearly only to have people look at you in a funny way, not understanding what you've said at all, or why you thought it was so important that you almost cried while you were saying it. That's the worst, I think. When the secret stays locked within not for want of a tellar but for want of an understanding ear.” Stephen King
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You did wonderful and thank you for doing that for me when I could not!hf
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What was wonderful was your intelligent answer! I feel very humble around you gals.
 Quoting: bigD111


Anyone have an opinion on these verses.

Psalm 110:3 Your people shall be volunteers
In the day of your power;
In the beauties of holiness, from the womb of the morning
You have the dew of Your youth.

Psalm 110:4 The Lord has sworn
And will not relent
"You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek."
 Quoting: bigD111

One of my very favorite psalms :)

Verses 2 and 3 here serve to amplify the message sent in verse 1-
The Lord said to my Lord,Sit at My right hand,Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.

This is a very pure example where translation falls flat on it face honestly it is a pity in my eyes that most are never able to truely see the beauty. The word said or says rendered in our english translations. The hebrew word is actually ne'um and in every single instance where it is used in our scriptures it denotes a devine utterance by God. Translated into literal meaning the passage is as follows-The oracle of Yahweh to my lord. What follow is God's direct message to His King.

David is writing here not just as a poet he is fully prophetic and the flow is true to his form and style of writing. Verse 1 summarizes what is to follow. So verse one is God speaking directly to David's Lord and in that moment makes very clear His status as a co-ruler. To sit at God right hand is to share His position and power.

Verse 2-The Lord shall send the rod of Your strength out of Zion.Rule in the midst of Your enemies!

Verse 2 is much more negative than verse 3. Some translation render rod of Your strength into scepter. The passing of a scepter denotes a passing of a King's right to rule. Rule in the midst of Your enemies!-Consider the persecution He faced while He was here. Verse 1 tells us how long He will rule in this capacity until His enemys are made a footstool.

Verse 3 Your people shall be volunteers. In the day of Your power;In the beauties of holiness, from the womb of the morning,You have the dew of Your youth.

We are God's people.Called but choosing in free will to follow. Willingness to volunteer denotes holiness and priestly garb on one side warriors on the other. People that are led not forced,coerced. There is a passage in Hosea stating Behold, I will allure her. This is people taking up the yoke of Christ and Him leading them. This is a multitude of people and flows into the final statement you have the dew of your youth. Fresh young, clean with gleaming faces the a band of warriors standing pure in the midst of ugliness and war. Dew is formed in the night during the silence when most men sleep. Night here is again a spiritual reference for the great falling away. From the womb of the morning- is referencing the passing of night a birth into a new light and a world that is awakened to the Truths we hold so closely.

Verse 4 The Lord has sworn And will not relent,
“You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek.

Melchizedek is a very interesting person to study his reign is the epitome of mirroring in Christ. A priest for all not just Israel,both a king and a priest one of few who combined offices and roles in that way. His origin and final destiny are not known and fall under very mysterious circumstances while his reign had no distinct beginning or end which further compounds the mystery that surrounded him.

These four lines when put together reflect all the way from Genesis to the book of Revelation and help to form the thread that ties the purpose of everything together.

This hope we have as an anchor of the soul, a hope both sure and steadfast and one which enters within the veil, where Jesus has entered as a forerunner for us, having become a high priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek- Hebrews 6:19-20

HE is our blessed hope forever!
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That was excellent! You have great understanding!
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Yes, I really liked her answer. My asking her to reconsider was because I wasn't sure I knew how to post it from my email! I am not much of a computer geek!
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You did wonderful and thank you for doing that for me when I could not!hf
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What was wonderful was your intelligent answer! I feel very humble around you gals.
 Quoting: bigD111


Anyone have an opinion on these verses.

Psalm 110:3 Your people shall be volunteers
In the day of your power;
In the beauties of holiness, from the womb of the morning
You have the dew of Your youth.

Psalm 110:4 The Lord has sworn
And will not relent
"You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek."
 Quoting: bigD111


psalm 110:3

vocation based volunteer
system regenerated by new
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110:4

preaching peace and righteousness
by serving wine and bread:
ending sadness and hunger
in honor of the most high
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I've really been challenged by this thread just wanted to say and appreciate you starting it RockyMntLady. I'm getting a lot of understanding I have to work at putting it to words but just wanted to clarify a few things.
First I want to retract my accusations of the blanket statement that PerJeshua is a false prophet until I clarify a few things. I see his view of the new testament era is good. He has done a lot of study there and I'm going to revisit it. I still have to keep asking though are these people, him included still thinking he is one of the 2 witnesses? Is that what I am still understanding?
And maybe then could you people just comment on how you're seeing the bottomless pit and the 5th and 6th trumpet judgements? Keep it short as possible please. To much information...trying to absorb it all.
I'm really seeng the 2 witnesses testifying over a long periode of time. The picture of the tornado and Ezekiels wheel are very appropriate. Not in the physical but is the picture the whirlwind, the wheel inside the wheel of the judgement, the purging of the house that God carries out. These moves cycle, there have been many as the whirlwind keeps swirling and growing. Today at what sure seems to be the end it is big, really big. We are in the process somewhere on the journey through our wilderness as is shown in the book of Revelation, the Revelation of Jesus Christ.

I see it as the earthquake, as the times that God moves on his house. We're in the big one at the end I believe. I also se the 2 witness manchild, 144000 pattern has cycled before I believe we are in the big one at the end.

I'm just saying I'm learning along with the rest of you here. We all need to stay open to what God is doing. Something is going on here.

But really please tell me you don't actually believe the Norway guy is one of the 2 witnesses please.
 Quoting: OutofHer


Hi Chris,

Please be specific and indicate when/where PehJeshuah has been false.

RockyMtnLady
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He claims he is actually one of 2 witnesses. That is gross error, a gross misunderstanding of the 11th chapter of Revelation.
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I've really been challenged by this thread just wanted to say and appreciate you starting it RockyMntLady. I'm getting a lot of understanding I have to work at putting it to words but just wanted to clarify a few things.
First I want to retract my accusations of the blanket statement that PerJeshua is a false prophet until I clarify a few things. I see his view of the new testament era is good. He has done a lot of study there and I'm going to revisit it. I still have to keep asking though are these people, him included still thinking he is one of the 2 witnesses? Is that what I am still understanding?
And maybe then could you people just comment on how you're seeing the bottomless pit and the 5th and 6th trumpet judgements? Keep it short as possible please. To much information...trying to absorb it all.
I'm really seeng the 2 witnesses testifying over a long periode of time. The picture of the tornado and Ezekiels wheel are very appropriate. Not in the physical but is the picture the whirlwind, the wheel inside the wheel of the judgement, the purging of the house that God carries out. These moves cycle, there have been many as the whirlwind keeps swirling and growing. Today at what sure seems to be the end it is big, really big. We are in the process somewhere on the journey through our wilderness as is shown in the book of Revelation, the Revelation of Jesus Christ.

I see it as the earthquake, as the times that God moves on his house. We're in the big one at the end I believe. I also se the 2 witness manchild, 144000 pattern has cycled before I believe we are in the big one at the end.

I'm just saying I'm learning along with the rest of you here. We all need to stay open to what God is doing. Something is going on here.

But really please tell me you don't actually believe the Norway guy is one of the 2 witnesses please.
 Quoting: OutofHer


Hi Chris,

Please be specific and indicate when/where PehJeshuah has been false.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


He claims he is actually one of 2 witnesses. That is gross error, a gross misunderstanding of the 11th chapter of Revelation.
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I don't agree with your interpretation if Revelation 11 so we can agree to disagree.

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I've really been challenged by this thread just wanted to say and appreciate you starting it RockyMntLady. I'm getting a lot of understanding I have to work at putting it to words but just wanted to clarify a few things.
First I want to retract my accusations of the blanket statement that PerJeshua is a false prophet until I clarify a few things. I see his view of the new testament era is good. He has done a lot of study there and I'm going to revisit it. I still have to keep asking though are these people, him included still thinking he is one of the 2 witnesses? Is that what I am still understanding?
And maybe then could you people just comment on how you're seeing the bottomless pit and the 5th and 6th trumpet judgements? Keep it short as possible please. To much information...trying to absorb it all.
I'm really seeng the 2 witnesses testifying over a long periode of time. The picture of the tornado and Ezekiels wheel are very appropriate. Not in the physical but is the picture the whirlwind, the wheel inside the wheel of the judgement, the purging of the house that God carries out. These moves cycle, there have been many as the whirlwind keeps swirling and growing. Today at what sure seems to be the end it is big, really big. We are in the process somewhere on the journey through our wilderness as is shown in the book of Revelation, the Revelation of Jesus Christ.

I see it as the earthquake, as the times that God moves on his house. We're in the big one at the end I believe. I also se the 2 witness manchild, 144000 pattern has cycled before I believe we are in the big one at the end.

I'm just saying I'm learning along with the rest of you here. We all need to stay open to what God is doing. Something is going on here.

But really please tell me you don't actually believe the Norway guy is one of the 2 witnesses please.
 Quoting: OutofHer


Hi Chris,

Please be specific and indicate when/where PehJeshuah has been false.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


He claims he is actually one of 2 witnesses. That is gross error, a gross misunderstanding of the 11th chapter of Revelation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49063446


I don't agree with your interpretation if Revelation 11 so we can agree to disagree.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


Agreeing to disagree is a good thing. Sometimes our commision is to "leave peacfully".

Back in the day our ancestors were violently murdered and torn apart by lions for their mere opinion when the system of those who brought that violence didn't even work.

HTTP is great thing. Doors open and close without bloodshed.

The Everlasting Gospel is so simple. If all of the details(our point of references) don't end in Faith then they will fall by the wayside. But such things take time to work out which is a good thing.

I am noticing on other threads that The Everlasting Gospel is really taking form ! You can hear it in the language.

It's not an easy road. We live in a world that sells fear.

But Iam a firm believer that the end was determined from the beginning. Thank God !

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Hi Chris,

Please be specific and indicate when/where PehJeshuah has been false.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


He claims he is actually one of 2 witnesses. That is gross error, a gross misunderstanding of the 11th chapter of Revelation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49063446


I don't agree with your interpretation if Revelation 11 so we can agree to disagree.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


Agreeing to disagree is a good thing. Sometimes our commision is to "leave peacfully".

Back in the day our ancestors were violently murdered and torn apart by lions for their mere opinion when the system of those who brought that violence didn't even work.

HTTP is great thing. Doors open and close without bloodshed.

The Everlasting Gospel is so simple. If all of the details(our point of references) don't end in Faith then they will fall by the wayside. But such things take time to work out which is a good thing.

I am noticing on other threads that The Everlasting Gospel is really taking form ! You can hear it in the language.

It's not an easy road. We live in a world that sells fear.

But Iam a firm believer that the end was determined from the beginning. Thank God !
 Quoting: Arizona


Praise Be to God Almighty!!!!

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He claims he is actually one of 2 witnesses. That is gross error, a gross misunderstanding of the 11th chapter of Revelation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49063446


I don't agree with your interpretation if Revelation 11 so we can agree to disagree.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


Agreeing to disagree is a good thing. Sometimes our commision is to "leave peacfully".

Back in the day our ancestors were violently murdered and torn apart by lions for their mere opinion when the system of those who brought that violence didn't even work.

HTTP is great thing. Doors open and close without bloodshed.

The Everlasting Gospel is so simple. If all of the details(our point of references) don't end in Faith then they will fall by the wayside. But such things take time to work out which is a good thing.

I am noticing on other threads that The Everlasting Gospel is really taking form ! You can hear it in the language.

It's not an easy road. We live in a world that sells fear.

But Iam a firm believer that the end was determined from the beginning. Thank God !
 Quoting: Arizona


Praise Be to God Almighty!!!!

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


Amen - It's wonderful ! I am so happy this day has come ! I have deep emotional memories of religous hatered and the stupidity of it. Thank God we are here now !

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You did wonderful and thank you for doing that for me when I could not!hf
 Quoting: ByFaithAlone


What was wonderful was your intelligent answer! I feel very humble around you gals.
 Quoting: bigD111


Anyone have an opinion on these verses.

Psalm 110:3 Your people shall be volunteers
In the day of your power;
In the beauties of holiness, from the womb of the morning
You have the dew of Your youth.

Psalm 110:4 The Lord has sworn
And will not relent
"You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek."
 Quoting: bigD111

One of my very favorite psalms :)

Verses 2 and 3 here serve to amplify the message sent in verse 1-
The Lord said to my Lord,Sit at My right hand,Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.

This is a very pure example where translation falls flat on it face honestly it is a pity in my eyes that most are never able to truely see the beauty. The word said or says rendered in our english translations. The hebrew word is actually ne'um and in every single instance where it is used in our scriptures it denotes a devine utterance by God. Translated into literal meaning the passage is as follows-The oracle of Yahweh to my lord. What follow is God's direct message to His King.

David is writing here not just as a poet he is fully prophetic and the flow is true to his form and style of writing. Verse 1 summarizes what is to follow. So verse one is God speaking directly to David's Lord and in that moment makes very clear His status as a co-ruler. To sit at God right hand is to share His position and power.

Verse 2-The Lord shall send the rod of Your strength out of Zion.Rule in the midst of Your enemies!

Verse 2 is much more negative than verse 3. Some translation render rod of Your strength into scepter. The passing of a scepter denotes a passing of a King's right to rule. Rule in the midst of Your enemies!-Consider the persecution He faced while He was here. Verse 1 tells us how long He will rule in this capacity until His enemys are made a footstool.

Verse 3 Your people shall be volunteers. In the day of Your power;In the beauties of holiness, from the womb of the morning,You have the dew of Your youth.

We are God's people.Called but choosing in free will to follow. Willingness to volunteer denotes holiness and priestly garb on one side warriors on the other. People that are led not forced,coerced. There is a passage in Hosea stating Behold, I will allure her. This is people taking up the yoke of Christ and Him leading them. This is a multitude of people and flows into the final statement you have the dew of your youth. Fresh young, clean with gleaming faces the a band of warriors standing pure in the midst of ugliness and war. Dew is formed in the night during the silence when most men sleep. Night here is again a spiritual reference for the great falling away. From the womb of the morning- is referencing the passing of night a birth into a new light and a world that is awakened to the Truths we hold so closely.

Verse 4 The Lord has sworn And will not relent,
“You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek.

Melchizedek is a very interesting person to study his reign is the epitome of mirroring in Christ. A priest for all not just Israel,both a king and a priest one of few who combined offices and roles in that way. His origin and final destiny are not known and fall under very mysterious circumstances while his reign had no distinct beginning or end which further compounds the mystery that surrounded him.

These four lines when put together reflect all the way from Genesis to the book of Revelation and help to form the thread that ties the purpose of everything together.

This hope we have as an anchor of the soul, a hope both sure and steadfast and one which enters within the veil, where Jesus has entered as a forerunner for us, having become a high priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek- Hebrews 6:19-20

HE is our blessed hope forever!
 Quoting: ByFaithAlone


This is wonderful analysis! Thank you again for being here!

May God Bless us all,
RockyMtnLady
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I don't agree with your interpretation if Revelation 11 so we can agree to disagree.

RockyMtnLady
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Agreeing to disagree is a good thing. Sometimes our commision is to "leave peacfully".

Back in the day our ancestors were violently murdered and torn apart by lions for their mere opinion when the system of those who brought that violence didn't even work.

HTTP is great thing. Doors open and close without bloodshed.

The Everlasting Gospel is so simple. If all of the details(our point of references) don't end in Faith then they will fall by the wayside. But such things take time to work out which is a good thing.

I am noticing on other threads that The Everlasting Gospel is really taking form ! You can hear it in the language.

It's not an easy road. We live in a world that sells fear.

But Iam a firm believer that the end was determined from the beginning. Thank God !
 Quoting: Arizona


Praise Be to God Almighty!!!!

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


Amen - It's wonderful ! I am so happy this day has come ! I have deep emotional memories of religous hated and the stupidity of it. Thank God we are here now !
 Quoting: Arizona


I also agree w/ you that the whole plan was designed by God from the very beginning. He truly is marvelous in His Works, Mercy, Wisdom, Power and Might. As the everlasting gospel takes hold in your soul/heart, you see it clear as day how God has intended for us to be "blameless" and free from our "old man."

It truly is miraculous and makes me weep, for I am so thankful.

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Agreeing to disagree is a good thing. Sometimes our commision is to "leave peacfully".

Back in the day our ancestors were violently murdered and torn apart by lions for their mere opinion when the system of those who brought that violence didn't even work.

HTTP is great thing. Doors open and close without bloodshed.

The Everlasting Gospel is so simple. If all of the details(our point of references) don't end in Faith then they will fall by the wayside. But such things take time to work out which is a good thing.

I am noticing on other threads that The Everlasting Gospel is really taking form ! You can hear it in the language.

It's not an easy road. We live in a world that sells fear.

But Iam a firm believer that the end was determined from the beginning. Thank God !
 Quoting: Arizona


Praise Be to God Almighty!!!!

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


Amen - It's wonderful ! I am so happy this day has come ! I have deep emotional memories of religous hated and the stupidity of it. Thank God we are here now !
 Quoting: Arizona


I also agree w/ you that the whole plan was designed by God from the very beginning. He truly is marvelous in His Works, Mercy, Wisdom, Power and Might. As the everlasting gospel takes hold in your soul/heart, you see it clear as day how God has intended for us to be "blameless" and free from our "old man."

It truly is miraculous and makes me weep, for I am so thankful.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


Yes, and you described the Way it all works.

Everything that is established in Faith is blamless because it's not abiding if it is weaponized. Faith is Pure and without flaw and is a "Jealous God".

It's perfection is in Itself because it is purely self-referencing.

When something is purely abiding the outcome is perfect.
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Hello Friends,

I just came across this today and thought it appropriate to post here as encouragement for our brothers and sisters.

2 Thessalonians 1

3 We ought always to thank God for you, brothers and sisters, and rightly so, because your faith is growing more and more, and the love all of you have for one another is increasing. 4 Therefore, among God’s churches we boast about your perseverance and faith in all the persecutions and trials you are enduring.

5 All this is evidence that God’s judgment is right, and as a result you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering. 6 God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you 7 and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels. 8 He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might 10 on the day he comes to be glorified in his holy people and to be marveled at among all those who have believed. This includes you, because you believed our testimony to you.

11 With this in mind, we constantly pray for you, that our God may make you worthy of his calling, and that by his power he may bring to fruition your every desire for goodness and your every deed prompted by faith. 12 We pray this so that the name of our Lord Jesus may be glorified in you, and you in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.[c]

May God Bless you,
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Iam so excited !



Just wanted to share...


hf
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Iam so excited !



Just wanted to share...


hf
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Me too! I truly feel we are on the verge of something being revealed. Come Lord Jesus! I can't wait to forget about my suffering! I am Your servant Father!
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