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Two Witnesses of Revelation 11.3 and the Branch

 
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quoting RML
Additionally, the Two Witnesses of Rev.11.3 are symbolized by the the two cherubim in the inner temple. I will discuss this more in depth on my next post.


How do you get two mortal beings out of two immortal beings?
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


This is where you not understanding the Old Testament paralyzes you. Pray for guidance and understanding while reading about three dwelling places of God (Moses' tabernacle, David's tabernacle, and Solomon's temple).

A hint for you...

Peter 2:5 calls us "lively stones, built up a spiritual house."

Good Luck!

RockyMtnLady
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You are making a statement that angels are now mortal. The only fallen cherub written in scripture is satan that I am aware of. Did the two cherubim sin? The wages of sin is death. The "TWO" witnesses are commissioned to prophesy and do supernatural works for 1260 days. That's it and then die, lay on the ground for 3.5 days and then be resurrected and called up to Heaven.

You said you found truth in spirit. Where is the truth? Didn't Jesus Christ say he is the truth, the life, and the way? What does John 16 tell you? That the Holy Spirit (the Advocate) will come and guide you to truth. Which is what? That's right.... Jesus Christ. Just because you are spiritual doesn't mean you have been blessed with the answers. It means you are in pursuit of them. If it were true, then people of the cloth far greater than you would not have stumbled many times in this mortal existence.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


I choose to not exalt myself. Proverbs 30:32
If you have been foolish, exalting yourself, or if you have been devising evil, put your hand on your mouth.

I will share more about myself, my journey, only if the Spirit of God, through Jesus Christ prompts me.

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Regarding the OP and the Two Witnesses. I would like to offer a few things about them, I believe they are actually both the Father and Son in essence who give Spirit to the Two said witnesses promised in the end time. The Father would be the Spirit who raises up a man like Moses and the Son gives Spirit to Elijah who is also in the same messenger who is born a natural man but doesn't realize his identity and his mission to deliver the information that he receives in dream and visions.

This is involving the Teacher of Righteousness that the mainstream Christian society has no knowledge of. I believe that one human male is raised up by God and specifically as the Teacher of Righteousness for our end-time.

He does exactly what Elijah did and is prophesied to do in the end. These two Spirits are of God and in one man who is gifted with the knowledge and given the message to deliver. Because of conspiracy this knowledge was abolished from the world in order to keep satan alive on earth while delaying Christ's return; this is the nature of the Delay theory.

This man is a simple man but with incredible God-gifted wisdom and knowledge of God's Laws and Statutes and what is to be restored by simply knowing what the world is missing. This man is the only one whom God speaks with concerning this message and his mission, and he also learns that he too is a son of God.

Some scholars debate whether he is a Messianic figure or not and I believe that He is and he is all of Heaven come in one man, and he will be the Davidic ruler of the planet earth, and it is this that the US government and all wicked hearts actually want to prevent while being deceived about their actions and beliefs.
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The Two Witnesses may be parallel in many animate objects and seen as examples and reminders. The first and most common is the difference between Black and White; the two present a contrast on which a differential may be determined and measured as a witness. It requires two opposites to reach a medium, and this is the principal of the Two Witnesses.

They are also parallel to the two halves of the torn curtain in the Holy Sanctuary, the left and the right sides are the opposing witnesses. Your right arm vs the left, and so on.

Your dress shirt with a button-line and buttons is dividing the two sides, and the left side has the pocket like the Ark of the Covenant has a compartment. The curtain was once ONE and without blemish until satan caused man to violate God's laws and Orders, and crucified Christ and causing the tear in the curtain. This tear put asunder the Father and the Son by Spiritual crucifixion and separation; we divided the Son from the Father and this also placed the Father in hell by the death of His Son.

The conspiracy has hidden these truths and created a world of fantasy and lies. This is what we will awaken to when the going gets very rough for America. The majority of Americans will not know the true reason for their rebellion and that will cause their demise.

The coming Elijah message will have the answers to all of the mysteries that plague us and keep us in a downward spiral fall.

Examples of twp witnesses may also be seen in the Christ and the Antichrist, just as seen in Black and White. Why is Obama the first Black President and the 44th to boot? Because he forms the Image of the Antichrist in a counterfeit image of the 144,000 elect law makers of God.

There are many Biblical proofs and physical proofs that give great and positive identification to President Obama as the representative of the Babylonian power.

I haven't mentioned 9-1-1 and the Twin Tower parallel's yet, and that's another story and very complex. The entire world is still in dark about the truth. The world is plagued with an identity crisis, I mean a spiritual one.
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If you don't like my "interpretation" of Scripture, you have the right to not visit this thread. I am simply putting forth what the Spirit of God through Jesus Christ has inspired me to do, making certain everything I say is in accordance with Holy Scripture.

I respect your right to reject what I say or not agree with what I say.

RockyMtnLady
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Fair enough, should we ever pick this up the 144,000 would be a good place to start, in the meantime I'll be a silent reader like I am on that longer thread.
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Regarding the OP and the Two Witnesses. I would like to offer a few things about them, I believe they are actually both the Father and Son in essence who give Spirit to the Two said witnesses promised in the end time. The Father would be the Spirit who raises up a man like Moses and the Son gives Spirit to Elijah who is also in the same messenger who is born a natural man but doesn't realize his identity and his mission to deliver the information that he receives in dream and visions.

This is involving the Teacher of Righteousness that the mainstream Christian society has no knowledge of. I believe that one human male is raised up by God and specifically as the Teacher of Righteousness for our end-time.

He does exactly what Elijah did and is prophesied to do in the end. These two Spirits are of God and in one man who is gifted with the knowledge and given the message to deliver. Because of conspiracy this knowledge was abolished from the world in order to keep satan alive on earth while delaying Christ's return; this is the nature of the Delay theory.

This man is a simple man but with incredible God-gifted wisdom and knowledge of God's Laws and Statutes and what is to be restored by simply knowing what the world is missing. This man is the only one whom God speaks with concerning this message and his mission, and he also learns that he too is a son of God.

Some scholars debate whether he is a Messianic figure or not and I believe that He is and he is all of Heaven come in one man, and he will be the Davidic ruler of the planet earth, and it is this that the US government and all wicked hearts actually want to prevent while being deceived about their actions and beliefs.
 Quoting: matrixmaker 49502331


Is he foretold in Scripture?

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If you don't like my "interpretation" of Scripture, you have the right to not visit this thread. I am simply putting forth what the Spirit of God through Jesus Christ has inspired me to do, making certain everything I say is in accordance with Holy Scripture.

I respect your right to reject what I say or not agree with what I say.

RockyMtnLady
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Fair enough, should we ever pick this up the 144,000 would be a good place to start, in the meantime I'll be a silent reader like I am on that longer thread.
 Quoting: MHz


Sorry, I didn't mean to shut you down. Please feel free to comment whenever you like. We can agree to disagree. Will get onto the 144,000, which is of great interest to many, I think.

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The Two Witnesses may be parallel in many animate objects and seen as examples and reminders. The first and most common is the difference between Black and White; the two present a contrast on which a differential may be determined and measured as a witness. It requires two opposites to reach a medium, and this is the principal of the Two Witnesses.

They are also parallel to the two halves of the torn curtain in the Holy Sanctuary, the left and the right sides are the opposing witnesses. Your right arm vs the left, and so on.

Your dress shirt with a button-line and buttons is dividing the two sides, and the left side has the pocket like the Ark of the Covenant has a compartment. The curtain was once ONE and without blemish until satan caused man to violate God's laws and Orders, and crucified Christ and causing the tear in the curtain. This tear put asunder the Father and the Son by Spiritual crucifixion and separation; we divided the Son from the Father and this also placed the Father in hell by the death of His Son.

The conspiracy has hidden these truths and created a world of fantasy and lies. This is what we will awaken to when the going gets very rough for America. The majority of Americans will not know the true reason for their rebellion and that will cause their demise.

The coming Elijah message will have the answers to all of the mysteries that plague us and keep us in a downward spiral fall.

Examples of twp witnesses may also be seen in the Christ and the Antichrist, just as seen in Black and White. Why is Obama the first Black President and the 44th to boot? Because he forms the Image of the Antichrist in a counterfeit image of the 144,000 elect law makers of God.

There are many Biblical proofs and physical proofs that give great and positive identification to President Obama as the representative of the Babylonian power.

I haven't mentioned 9-1-1 and the Twin Tower parallel's yet, and that's another story and very complex. The entire world is still in dark about the truth. The world is plagued with an identity crisis, I mean a spiritual one.
 Quoting: matrixmaker 49502331


I think this sums our spiritual condition perfectly.

2 Timothy 3
3 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was.
10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

2 Timothy 4
4 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.
7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:
8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
9 Do thy diligence to come shortly unto me:
10 For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.
11 Only Luke is with me. Take Mark, and bring him with thee: for he is profitable to me for the ministry.
12 And Tychicus have I sent to Ephesus.
13 The cloke that I left at Troas with Carpus, when thou comest, bring with thee, and the books, but especially the parchments.

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Please allow me to address one issue at a time. First of all, if Jesus is the BRANCH, do you believe He would contradict himself when He says in John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.?

Please explain so I can better understand your position.

Thank you,
RockyMtnLady
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Why would you assume all references to branches are a reference to the term that is in all CAPS? The term Lord can mean anybody with authority over you, LORD is specific to the one true God. Even Jesus was a 'branch of the 12 tribes, that doesn't mean it ended there, He is also the only branch of God in that God is the father and Christ is the son.
No temple construction is mentioned in relation to the branches you mention yet there are many that say there will be a temple for the 1,000 year reign and it is one built without human hands.

Jesus is the only person to grow up outside of His 'home', which for Jesus is the 3rd heaven.

"shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: "

That either has to be Christ or Satan.

2Th:2:4:
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,
or that is worshipped;
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God.
 Quoting: MHz





pardon me, however what is intended when they say "third Heaven" is that it is Heaven during the third and final earth Age...

there is ever and always only one Heaven, Heaven being wherever God is. there are however, and/or have been and will yet be three earth and Heaven AGES... the Lords Day and/or the Millennium consists of the first thousand years of the third and final Earth and Heaven Age
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From a thread I made in March of this year:






The Branch is the 2 witnesses of Revelation


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No where is Jesus ever mentioned as being a "Branch"..Jesus is always the "Vine"....the 2 witnesses are the "Branch"

One witness is a "king" and the other is a "priest"



Zechariah 6:12-13

King James Version (KJV)

12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:

13 Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

The Branch is clearly the one building the temple of the Lord and in the book of Zechariah it is Joshua the priest and Zerubbabel the head of the tribe of Judah building the temple and the counsel of peace shall be between the king and the priest

leftrightkingpri




Jeremiah 23 shows the Zerubbabel half of the Branch

Jeremiah 23:5-6

King James Version (KJV)

5 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice(righteousness) in the earth.

6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby "he" shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.




Jeremiah 33 shows the Joshua half of the Branch
...notice no mention of the word "King" in these verses that is because it is the "Priest" side...the world is made up of male and female the kingdom of God is made up of kings and priests...kings masculine and priests feminine but not of the nature as we think of male and female on earth.

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith "she" shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.

17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne(King) of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.


Psalm 72(A psalm of solomon)

King James Version (KJV)

72 Give the king thy judgments, O God, and thy righteousness unto the king's son.

Notice the "Branch" executes "Judgement and righteousness"
The king thy judgement and the kings son thy righteousness"

The "Branch is 2 that become 1 because the Branch has the mission of joining the 2 that are separated Judah and Israel

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Re: Two Witnesses of Revelation 11.3 and the Branch
Please allow me to address one issue at a time. First of all, if Jesus is the BRANCH, do you believe He would contradict himself when He says in John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.?

Please explain so I can better understand your position.

Thank you,
RockyMtnLady
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Why would you assume all references to branches are a reference to the term that is in all CAPS? The term Lord can mean anybody with authority over you, LORD is specific to the one true God. Even Jesus was a 'branch of the 12 tribes, that doesn't mean it ended there, He is also the only branch of God in that God is the father and Christ is the son.
No temple construction is mentioned in relation to the branches you mention yet there are many that say there will be a temple for the 1,000 year reign and it is one built without human hands.

Jesus is the only person to grow up outside of His 'home', which for Jesus is the 3rd heaven.

"shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: "

That either has to be Christ or Satan.

2Th:2:4:
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,
or that is worshipped;
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God.
 Quoting: MHz





by "rightly dividing the Word" it means to note and apply to the intended meaning those scriptures which were applicable to each of the three earth and Heaven Ages

when speaking of the time in the Millennium it speaks to the first portion of the third earth and Heaven Age

Gods Election reign and rule thruout the Millennial period as all those marked as "dead" will reside herein on the outside of the New Jerusalem Temple and/or City of Light until they are made meet to enter in

the full Godhead doesn't return until the Great White Throne Judgment which occurs at the end of the Millennium Age just prior to the onset of the Eternity
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Re: Two Witnesses of Revelation 11.3 and the Branch
From a thread I made in March of this year:






The Branch is the 2 witnesses of Revelation


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No where is Jesus ever mentioned as being a "Branch"..Jesus is always the "Vine"....the 2 witnesses are the "Branch"

One witness is a "king" and the other is a "priest"



Zechariah 6:12-13

King James Version (KJV)

12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:

13 Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

The Branch is clearly the one building the temple of the Lord and in the book of Zechariah it is Joshua the priest and Zerubbabel the head of the tribe of Judah building the temple and the counsel of peace shall be between the king and the priest

leftrightkingpri




Jeremiah 23 shows the Zerubbabel half of the Branch

Jeremiah 23:5-6

King James Version (KJV)

5 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice(righteousness) in the earth.

6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby "he" shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.




Jeremiah 33 shows the Joshua half of the Branch
...notice no mention of the word "King" in these verses that is because it is the "Priest" side...the world is made up of male and female the kingdom of God is made up of kings and priests...kings masculine and priests feminine but not of the nature as we think of male and female on earth.

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith "she" shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.

17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne(King) of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.


Psalm 72(A psalm of solomon)

King James Version (KJV)

72 Give the king thy judgments, O God, and thy righteousness unto the king's son.

Notice the "Branch" executes "Judgement and righteousness"
The king thy judgement and the kings son thy righteousness"

The "Branch is 2 that become 1 because the Branch has the mission of joining the 2 that are separated Judah and Israel
 Quoting: waterman


It is just false to claim the Branch is the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3. The Branch, Man child and 144,000 are all the refering to the same group of hearts/souls. I am going to put together something to post either tomorrow or the next day.

I am very motivated to tell people what has been shown to me as truth (in accordance with Scripture) to possibly help them along their journey.

RockyMtnLady
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Re: Two Witnesses of Revelation 11.3 and the Branch
From a thread I made in March of this year:






The Branch is the 2 witnesses of Revelation


nuclear



No where is Jesus ever mentioned as being a "Branch"..Jesus is always the "Vine"....the 2 witnesses are the "Branch"

One witness is a "king" and the other is a "priest"



Zechariah 6:12-13

King James Version (KJV)

12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:

13 Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

The Branch is clearly the one building the temple of the Lord and in the book of Zechariah it is Joshua the priest and Zerubbabel the head of the tribe of Judah building the temple and the counsel of peace shall be between the king and the priest

leftrightkingpri




Jeremiah 23 shows the Zerubbabel half of the Branch

Jeremiah 23:5-6

King James Version (KJV)

5 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice(righteousness) in the earth.

6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby "he" shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.




Jeremiah 33 shows the Joshua half of the Branch
...notice no mention of the word "King" in these verses that is because it is the "Priest" side...the world is made up of male and female the kingdom of God is made up of kings and priests...kings masculine and priests feminine but not of the nature as we think of male and female on earth.

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith "she" shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.

17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne(King) of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.


Psalm 72(A psalm of solomon)

King James Version (KJV)

72 Give the king thy judgments, O God, and thy righteousness unto the king's son.

Notice the "Branch" executes "Judgement and righteousness"
The king thy judgement and the kings son thy righteousness"

The "Branch is 2 that become 1 because the Branch has the mission of joining the 2 that are separated Judah and Israel
 Quoting: waterman


It is just false to claim the Branch is the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3. The Branch, Man child and 144,000 are all the refering to the same group of hearts/souls. I am going to put together something to post either tomorrow or the next day.

I am very motivated to tell people what has been shown to me as truth (in accordance with Scripture) to possibly help them along their journey.

RockyMtnLady
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The two witnesses die and are raised again after 3.5 days like Jesus was because the 2 witnesses will be testators of the testament of the levitic priesthood and davidic kingship on earth just as Jesus was risen again after 3 days days to be the testator of the melchelzedek KINGSHIP AND PRIESTHOOD in Heaven which is the greater kingship and priesthood because we know from Hebrews that the testament has no strength until the death of the testator:

Hebrews 9:16-17

King James Version (KJV)

16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

When the 2 witnesses are raised after the 3.5 days they will be a type of firstfruits of the levitic and davidic priesthood and kingship just as Jesus was at the beginning of his Testament of Melchelzedek PRIESTHOOD/KINGSHIP

There would be no purpose of the two witnesses raising again after 3.5 days later unless they were the testators of the levitic and davidic priesthood and kingship as Jeremiah states are to be eternal..and these 2 witnesses will be the shadow of the greater kingship and priesthood held by Jesus in heaven. Jesus is both king and priest and the two witnesses on earth divide the kingship and priesthood because otherwise it would be considered melchelzedek if held by one person and the promise of the eternal levitic and davidic would not be fullfilled.
On earth priesthood and kingship are to always be separate offices as one is from the tribe of Judah and the other from the tribe of Levi

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Re: Two Witnesses of Revelation 11.3 and the Branch
From a thread I made in March of this year:






The Branch is the 2 witnesses of Revelation


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No where is Jesus ever mentioned as being a "Branch"..Jesus is always the "Vine"....the 2 witnesses are the "Branch"

One witness is a "king" and the other is a "priest"



Zechariah 6:12-13

King James Version (KJV)

12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:

13 Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

The Branch is clearly the one building the temple of the Lord and in the book of Zechariah it is Joshua the priest and Zerubbabel the head of the tribe of Judah building the temple and the counsel of peace shall be between the king and the priest

leftrightkingpri




Jeremiah 23 shows the Zerubbabel half of the Branch

Jeremiah 23:5-6

King James Version (KJV)

5 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice(righteousness) in the earth.

6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby "he" shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.




Jeremiah 33 shows the Joshua half of the Branch
...notice no mention of the word "King" in these verses that is because it is the "Priest" side...the world is made up of male and female the kingdom of God is made up of kings and priests...kings masculine and priests feminine but not of the nature as we think of male and female on earth.

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith "she" shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.

17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne(King) of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.


Psalm 72(A psalm of solomon)

King James Version (KJV)

72 Give the king thy judgments, O God, and thy righteousness unto the king's son.

Notice the "Branch" executes "Judgement and righteousness"
The king thy judgement and the kings son thy righteousness"

The "Branch is 2 that become 1 because the Branch has the mission of joining the 2 that are separated Judah and Israel
 Quoting: waterman


It is just false to claim the Branch is the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3. The Branch, Man child and 144,000 are all the refering to the same group of hearts/souls. I am going to put together something to post either tomorrow or the next day.

I am very motivated to tell people what has been shown to me as truth (in accordance with Scripture) to possibly help them along their journey.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


The two witnesses die and are raised again after 3.5 days like Jesus was because the 2 witnesses will be testators of the testament of the levitic priesthood and davidic kingship on earth just as Jesus was risen again after 3 days days to be the testator of the melchelzedek KINGSHIP AND PRIESTHOOD in Heaven which is the greater kingship and priesthood because we know from Hebrews that the testament has no strength until the death of the testator:

Hebrews 9:16-17

King James Version (KJV)

16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

There would be no purpose of the two witnesses raising again after 3.5 days later unless they were the testators of the levitic and davidic priesthood and kingship as Jeremiah states are to be eternal..and these 2 witnesses will be the shadow of the greater kingship and priesthood held by Jesus in heaven. Jesus is both king and priest and the two witnesses on earth divide the kingship and priesthood because otherwise it would be considered melchelzedek if held by one person and the promise of the eternal levitic and davidic would not be fullfilled.
On earth priesthood and kingship are to always be separate offices as one is from the tribe of Judah and the other from the tribe of Levi
 Quoting: waterman


I am aware of what you believe about the levitic and davidic priesthoods, and to be honest with you, I don't have any clue what you talk about. I am not going to pretend I know about something I don't. I do know they have nothing to do w/ the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3. I have seen a couple posts of yours, and please don't take this the wrong way, but they are confusing to me and don't resonate at all with truth in my heart or w/ Holy Scripture.

I do wish you well, though.

RockyMtnLady
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From a thread I made in March of this year:






The Branch is the 2 witnesses of Revelation


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No where is Jesus ever mentioned as being a "Branch"..Jesus is always the "Vine"....the 2 witnesses are the "Branch"

One witness is a "king" and the other is a "priest"



Zechariah 6:12-13

King James Version (KJV)

12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:

13 Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

The Branch is clearly the one building the temple of the Lord and in the book of Zechariah it is Joshua the priest and Zerubbabel the head of the tribe of Judah building the temple and the counsel of peace shall be between the king and the priest

leftrightkingpri




Jeremiah 23 shows the Zerubbabel half of the Branch

Jeremiah 23:5-6

King James Version (KJV)

5 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice(righteousness) in the earth.

6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby "he" shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.




Jeremiah 33 shows the Joshua half of the Branch
...notice no mention of the word "King" in these verses that is because it is the "Priest" side...the world is made up of male and female the kingdom of God is made up of kings and priests...kings masculine and priests feminine but not of the nature as we think of male and female on earth.

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith "she" shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.

17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne(King) of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.


Psalm 72(A psalm of solomon)

King James Version (KJV)

72 Give the king thy judgments, O God, and thy righteousness unto the king's son.

Notice the "Branch" executes "Judgement and righteousness"
The king thy judgement and the kings son thy righteousness"

The "Branch is 2 that become 1 because the Branch has the mission of joining the 2 that are separated Judah and Israel
 Quoting: waterman


It is just false to claim the Branch is the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3. The Branch, Man child and 144,000 are all the refering to the same group of hearts/souls. I am going to put together something to post either tomorrow or the next day.

I am very motivated to tell people what has been shown to me as truth (in accordance with Scripture) to possibly help them along their journey.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


The two witnesses die and are raised again after 3.5 days like Jesus was because the 2 witnesses will be testators of the testament of the levitic priesthood and davidic kingship on earth just as Jesus was risen again after 3 days days to be the testator of the melchelzedek KINGSHIP AND PRIESTHOOD in Heaven which is the greater kingship and priesthood because we know from Hebrews that the testament has no strength until the death of the testator:

Hebrews 9:16-17

King James Version (KJV)

16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

There would be no purpose of the two witnesses raising again after 3.5 days later unless they were the testators of the levitic and davidic priesthood and kingship as Jeremiah states are to be eternal..and these 2 witnesses will be the shadow of the greater kingship and priesthood held by Jesus in heaven. Jesus is both king and priest and the two witnesses on earth divide the kingship and priesthood because otherwise it would be considered melchelzedek if held by one person and the promise of the eternal levitic and davidic would not be fullfilled.
On earth priesthood and kingship are to always be separate offices as one is from the tribe of Judah and the other from the tribe of Levi
 Quoting: waterman


I am aware of what you believe about the levitic and davidic priesthoods, and to be honest with you, I don't have any clue what you talk about. I am not going to pretend I know about something I don't. I do know they have nothing to do w/ the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3. I have seen a couple posts of yours, and please don't take this the wrong way, but they are confusing to me and don't resonate at all with truth in my heart or w/ Holy Scripture.

I do wish you well, though.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady



Here is the eternal promise of the davidic kingship and levitic preisthood in Jeremiah 33 which is speaking of the Branch:


Jeremiah 33:

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.

17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.

19 And the word of the Lord came unto Jeremiah, saying,

20 Thus saith the Lord; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;

21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.


22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.

23 Moreover the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah, saying,

24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the Lord hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.

25 Thus saith the Lord; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;

26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.
Heed the warning or endure the mourning
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Please allow me to address one issue at a time. First of all, if Jesus is the BRANCH, do you believe He would contradict himself when He says in John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.?

Please explain so I can better understand your position.

Thank you,
RockyMtnLady
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Why would you assume all references to branches are a reference to the term that is in all CAPS? The term Lord can mean anybody with authority over you, LORD is specific to the one true God. Even Jesus was a 'branch of the 12 tribes, that doesn't mean it ended there, He is also the only branch of God in that God is the father and Christ is the son.
No temple construction is mentioned in relation to the branches you mention yet there are many that say there will be a temple for the 1,000 year reign and it is one built without human hands.

Jesus is the only person to grow up outside of His 'home', which for Jesus is the 3rd heaven.

"shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: "

That either has to be Christ or Satan.

2Th:2:4:
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,
or that is worshipped;
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God.
 Quoting: MHz





by "rightly dividing the Word" it means to note and apply to the intended meaning those scriptures which were applicable to each of the three earth and Heaven Ages

when speaking of the time in the Millennium it speaks to the first portion of the third earth and Heaven Age

Gods Election reign and rule thruout the Millennial period as all those marked as "dead" will reside herein on the outside of the New Jerusalem Temple and/or City of Light until they are made meet to enter in

the full Godhead doesn't return until the Great White Throne Judgment which occurs at the end of the Millennium Age just prior to the onset of the Eternity
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49358927


This is interesting...

Can you please break this down for us using Scripture whenever possible?

Thanks so much!

May God Bless you,
RockyMtnLady
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It refers to Joshua the High Priest. The Prophecy was already fulfilled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49488488

Well the valley and river that go with that building are missing.

Zec:14:4:
And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives,
which is before Jerusalem on the east,
and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west,
and there shall be a very great valley;
and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Zec:14:5:
And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains;
for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal:
yea,
ye shall flee,
like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah:
and the LORD my God shall come,
and all the saints with thee.

Eze:47:1:
Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house;
and, behold,
waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward:
for the forefront of the house stood toward the east,
and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house,
at the south side of the altar.
Then brought he me out of the way of the gate northward,
and led me about the way without unto the utter gate by the way that looketh eastward;
and,
behold,
there ran out waters on the right side.
And when the man that had the line in his hand went forth eastward,
he measured a thousand cubits,
and he brought me through the waters;
the waters were to the ancles.
Again he measured a thousand,
and brought me through the waters;
the waters were to the knees.
Again he measured a thousand,
and brought me through; the waters were to the loins.
Afterward he measured a thousand;
and it was a river that I could not pass over:
for the waters were risen,
waters to swim in,
a river that could not be passed over.
And he said unto me,
Son of man, hast thou seen this?
Then he brought me,
and caused me to return to the brink of the river.
Now when I had returned,
behold,
at the bank of the river were very many trees on the one side and on the other.
Then said he unto me,
These waters issue out toward the east country,
and go down into the desert,
and go into the sea:
which being brought forth into the sea,
the waters shall be healed.
And it shall come to pass,
that every thing that liveth,
which moveth,
whithersoever the rivers shall come,
shall live:
and there shall be a very great multitude of fish,
because these waters shall come thither:
for they shall be healed;
and every thing shall live whither the river cometh.
And it shall come to pass,
that the fishers shall stand upon it from En-gedi even unto En-eglaim;
they shall be a place to spread forth nets;
their fish shall be according to their kinds,
as the fish of the great sea,
exceeding many.
But the miry places thereof and the marishes thereof shall not be healed;
they shall be given to salt.
And by the river upon the bank thereof,
on this side and on that side,
shall grow all trees for meat,
whose leaf shall not fade,
neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed:
it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary:
and the fruit thereof shall be for meat,
and the leaf thereof for medicine.
 Quoting: MHz




the "very great valley" occurs in the Millennium Age

when the Christ entity returns/arrives

it is referring to that separation there will be between the "dead" and those in the New Jerusalem City at that time
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It is just false to claim the Branch is the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3. The Branch, Man child and 144,000 are all the refering to the same group of hearts/souls. I am going to put together something to post either tomorrow or the next day.

I am very motivated to tell people what has been shown to me as truth (in accordance with Scripture) to possibly help them along their journey.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


The two witnesses die and are raised again after 3.5 days like Jesus was because the 2 witnesses will be testators of the testament of the levitic priesthood and davidic kingship on earth just as Jesus was risen again after 3 days days to be the testator of the melchelzedek KINGSHIP AND PRIESTHOOD in Heaven which is the greater kingship and priesthood because we know from Hebrews that the testament has no strength until the death of the testator:

Hebrews 9:16-17

King James Version (KJV)

16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

There would be no purpose of the two witnesses raising again after 3.5 days later unless they were the testators of the levitic and davidic priesthood and kingship as Jeremiah states are to be eternal..and these 2 witnesses will be the shadow of the greater kingship and priesthood held by Jesus in heaven. Jesus is both king and priest and the two witnesses on earth divide the kingship and priesthood because otherwise it would be considered melchelzedek if held by one person and the promise of the eternal levitic and davidic would not be fullfilled.
On earth priesthood and kingship are to always be separate offices as one is from the tribe of Judah and the other from the tribe of Levi
 Quoting: waterman


I am aware of what you believe about the levitic and davidic priesthoods, and to be honest with you, I don't have any clue what you talk about. I am not going to pretend I know about something I don't. I do know they have nothing to do w/ the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3. I have seen a couple posts of yours, and please don't take this the wrong way, but they are confusing to me and don't resonate at all with truth in my heart or w/ Holy Scripture.

I do wish you well, though.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady



Here is the eternal promise of the davidic kingship and levitic preisthood in Jeremiah 33 which is speaking of the Branch:


Jeremiah 33:

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.

17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.

19 And the word of the Lord came unto Jeremiah, saying,

20 Thus saith the Lord; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;

21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.


22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.

23 Moreover the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah, saying,

24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the Lord hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.

25 Thus saith the Lord; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;

26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.
 Quoting: waterman


This shows you have little understanding of historical Israel. In order to understand, we must consult Dan 9:24-27:
"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

This is PJ's comment:

These seventy weeks are 70 x 7 prophetic years, which make up 490 years. The last week of the 70 weeks consists of 7 years in the midst of which Jesus was crucified. That happened in 33 AD, for the last week started in 29 and ended in 36 AD. The important point is that during the last week God did anoint the most Holy and thereby put an end to the Levitical priesthood (Heb 7:11), so with that priesthood ended the historical office of the Levites was no longer needed. This fact came visibly true to the Jews when their temple was destroyed, and there is no temple anywhere for any so-called Levites to do their work. Therefore, their Levitical work at the literal temple ended for ever!

You say that the true two witnesses will "both be Levites for they will stand before the Lord", which is mere stupidity of you to say, for the two cherubim that were one piece with the mercy-seat, as we can read in Exo 25:19, are the ones who symbolize the two witnesses in Rev 11:3 and not any Levites, who were not allowed to enter the Most Holy.
And make one cherub at the one end, and one cherub at the other end: of one piece with the mercy-seat shall ye make the cherubim on the two ends thereof.
Quoting: The Bible

The high priest was the only one allowed to enter the Most Holy once a year, symbolizing Jesus Christ.

When we also consider the biblical fact that the time period of the sixth angel, which is now, when the true two witnesses will do their work, is still the time period of the Gentiles, being the seventh thousand year period, while the Jews' time period will be the eighth thousand year period, that of the seventh angel, as foreshadowed by Leviticus 12:3, we see how stupid and ignorant you are of Scripture:
And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised."
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Hopefully, that information helps you get a clearer picture of historical Israel, which I myself am just beginning to grasp.

Therefore, through Scripture, we see that the Branch couldn't possibly be these priesthoods.

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The two witnesses die and are raised again after 3.5 days like Jesus was because the 2 witnesses will be testators of the testament of the levitic priesthood and davidic kingship on earth just as Jesus was risen again after 3 days days to be the testator of the melchelzedek KINGSHIP AND PRIESTHOOD in Heaven which is the greater kingship and priesthood because we know from Hebrews that the testament has no strength until the death of the testator:

Hebrews 9:16-17

King James Version (KJV)

16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

There would be no purpose of the two witnesses raising again after 3.5 days later unless they were the testators of the levitic and davidic priesthood and kingship as Jeremiah states are to be eternal..and these 2 witnesses will be the shadow of the greater kingship and priesthood held by Jesus in heaven. Jesus is both king and priest and the two witnesses on earth divide the kingship and priesthood because otherwise it would be considered melchelzedek if held by one person and the promise of the eternal levitic and davidic would not be fullfilled.
On earth priesthood and kingship are to always be separate offices as one is from the tribe of Judah and the other from the tribe of Levi
 Quoting: waterman


I am aware of what you believe about the levitic and davidic priesthoods, and to be honest with you, I don't have any clue what you talk about. I am not going to pretend I know about something I don't. I do know they have nothing to do w/ the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3. I have seen a couple posts of yours, and please don't take this the wrong way, but they are confusing to me and don't resonate at all with truth in my heart or w/ Holy Scripture.

I do wish you well, though.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady



Here is the eternal promise of the davidic kingship and levitic preisthood in Jeremiah 33 which is speaking of the Branch:


Jeremiah 33:

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.

17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.

19 And the word of the Lord came unto Jeremiah, saying,

20 Thus saith the Lord; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;

21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.


22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.

23 Moreover the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah, saying,

24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the Lord hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.

25 Thus saith the Lord; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;

26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.
 Quoting: waterman


This shows you have little understanding of historical Israel. In order to understand, we must consult Dan 9:24-27:
"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

This is PJ's comment:

These seventy weeks are 70 x 7 prophetic years, which make up 490 years. The last week of the 70 weeks consists of 7 years in the midst of which Jesus was crucified. That happened in 33 AD, for the last week started in 29 and ended in 36 AD. The important point is that during the last week God did anoint the most Holy and thereby put an end to the Levitical priesthood (Heb 7:11), so with that priesthood ended the historical office of the Levites was no longer needed. This fact came visibly true to the Jews when their temple was destroyed, and there is no temple anywhere for any so-called Levites to do their work. Therefore, their Levitical work at the literal temple ended for ever!

You say that the true two witnesses will "both be Levites for they will stand before the Lord", which is mere stupidity of you to say, for the two cherubim that were one piece with the mercy-seat, as we can read in Exo 25:19, are the ones who symbolize the two witnesses in Rev 11:3 and not any Levites, who were not allowed to enter the Most Holy.
And make one cherub at the one end, and one cherub at the other end: of one piece with the mercy-seat shall ye make the cherubim on the two ends thereof.
Quoting: The Bible

The high priest was the only one allowed to enter the Most Holy once a year, symbolizing Jesus Christ.

When we also consider the biblical fact that the time period of the sixth angel, which is now, when the true two witnesses will do their work, is still the time period of the Gentiles, being the seventh thousand year period, while the Jews' time period will be the eighth thousand year period, that of the seventh angel, as foreshadowed by Leviticus 12:3, we see how stupid and ignorant you are of Scripture:
And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised."
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Hopefully, that information helps you get a clearer picture of historical Israel, which I myself am just beginning to grasp.

Therefore, through Scripture, we see that the Branch couldn't possibly be these priesthoods.

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This is your thread so I will leave it at we will have to agree to disagree...have a good night


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The Two Witnesses are Elijah and Enoch, who never died and are alive today by virtue of contact with the Tree of Life (which was never destroyed) and who will return to public ministry at the time of the Antichrist.

The 144,000 is a figurative term meant to represent those in union with the successors of the Apostles and the Vicar of Christ.

The only Rapture will be at the Second Coming of Christ.

By the way, the Catholic Church wrote the Bible and Protestants are simply confused, heretical Catholics.

:lookie here:
 Quoting: FreakObserver


The 144,000 are most certainly people. Revelation 14.3and they sing as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four living creatures and the elders: and no man could learn the song save the hundred and forty and four thousand, [even] they that had been purchased out of the earth.

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7000 of these are those of Gods Election who were predestined and foreordained to be born into this final generation, the generation of the fig tree which began in 1948

the remaining 137,000 are all those who are brought into the truth sufficient that they are able to "overcome" during the time of the tribulation of the antichrist when he/lucifer returns professing himself to BE the Christ
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The Two Witnesses are Elijah and Enoch, who never died and are alive today by virtue of contact with the Tree of Life (which was never destroyed) and who will return to public ministry at the time of the Antichrist.

The 144,000 is a figurative term meant to represent those in union with the successors of the Apostles and the Vicar of Christ.

The only Rapture will be at the Second Coming of Christ.

By the way, the Catholic Church wrote the Bible and Protestants are simply confused, heretical Catholics.

:lookie here:
 Quoting: FreakObserver


The 144,000 are most certainly people. Revelation 14.3and they sing as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four living creatures and the elders: and no man could learn the song save the hundred and forty and four thousand, [even] they that had been purchased out of the earth.

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7000 of these are those of Gods Election who were predestined and foreordained to be born into this final generation, the generation of the fig tree which began in 1948

the remaining 137,000 are all those who are brought into the truth sufficient that they are able to "overcome" during the time of the tribulation of the antichrist when he/lucifer returns professing himself to BE the Christ
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quoting RML
Additionally, the Two Witnesses of Rev.11.3 are symbolized by the the two cherubim in the inner temple. I will discuss this more in depth on my next post.


How do you get two mortal beings out of two immortal beings?
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


This is where you not understanding the Old Testament paralyzes you. Pray for guidance and understanding while reading about three dwelling places of God (Moses' tabernacle, David's tabernacle, and Solomon's temple).

A hint for you...

Peter 2:5 calls us "lively stones, built up a spiritual house."

Good Luck!

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You are making a statement that angels are now mortal. The only fallen cherub written in scripture is satan that I am aware of. Did the two cherubim sin? The wages of sin is death. The "TWO" witnesses are commissioned to prophesy and do supernatural works for 1260 days. That's it and then die, lay on the ground for 3.5 days and then be resurrected and called up to Heaven.

You said you found truth in spirit. Where is the truth? Didn't Jesus Christ say he is the truth, the life, and the way? What does John 16 tell you? That the Holy Spirit (the Advocate) will come and guide you to truth. Which is what? That's right.... Jesus Christ. Just because you are spiritual doesn't mean you have been blessed with the answers. It means you are in pursuit of them. If it were true, then people of the cloth far greater than you would not have stumbled many times in this mortal existence.
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the Elect did not fall either, in fact these are they who stood AGAINST lucifer/satan and their brethren who followed him during the rebellion in the first earth Age. said Elect are known as the "spouse" as opposed to "the bride" of Christ for the selfsame reason

these were predestined and foreordained to enter into flesh and be born into this last generation so they would be here to stand against the false christ when he returns at the 6th Trumpet to once again stand against lucifer and all their brethren who will be deceived during the tribulation

that is all but the 144,000 all told

as far as the angels being mortal of course they are. we ARE the Elohim, and those who fell (all but the Elect) were ordained to pass through flesh bodies in this second earth Age which then followed. as for the Elect they were brought forth to assist their brethren in flesh, they are not here because they acted poorly during the time of the rebellion, quite the opposite in fact

the fallen angels are those of us who fell yet again when they refused to enter flesh, instead coming to earth and creating hybrid offspring with the daughters of Adam

these are those of us who remained in our/their original spiritual bodily forms, the same forms they will be in shortly when they return/arrive with lucifer
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Regarding the OP and the Two Witnesses. I would like to offer a few things about them, I believe they are actually both the Father and Son in essence who give Spirit to the Two said witnesses promised in the end time. The Father would be the Spirit who raises up a man like Moses and the Son gives Spirit to Elijah who is also in the same messenger who is born a natural man but doesn't realize his identity and his mission to deliver the information that he receives in dream and visions.

This is involving the Teacher of Righteousness that the mainstream Christian society has no knowledge of. I believe that one human male is raised up by God and specifically as the Teacher of Righteousness for our end-time.

He does exactly what Elijah did and is prophesied to do in the end. These two Spirits are of God and in one man who is gifted with the knowledge and given the message to deliver. Because of conspiracy this knowledge was abolished from the world in order to keep satan alive on earth while delaying Christ's return; this is the nature of the Delay theory.

This man is a simple man but with incredible God-gifted wisdom and knowledge of God's Laws and Statutes and what is to be restored by simply knowing what the world is missing. This man is the only one whom God speaks with concerning this message and his mission, and he also learns that he too is a son of God.

Some scholars debate whether he is a Messianic figure or not and I believe that He is and he is all of Heaven come in one man, and he will be the Davidic ruler of the planet earth, and it is this that the US government and all wicked hearts actually want to prevent while being deceived about their actions and beliefs.
 Quoting: matrixmaker 49502331




all are the sons of God. there was no genderal designation during the former time frame, only upon entering flesh were said souls divided up into both male and female bodily forms whereby they could procreate unaided (on their own) until all the original souls had passed thru flesh bodies as each was ordained to do following the rebellion in the former Age or time frame
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The Two Witnesses may be parallel in many animate objects and seen as examples and reminders. The first and most common is the difference between Black and White; the two present a contrast on which a differential may be determined and measured as a witness. It requires two opposites to reach a medium, and this is the principal of the Two Witnesses.

They are also parallel to the two halves of the torn curtain in the Holy Sanctuary, the left and the right sides are the opposing witnesses. Your right arm vs the left, and so on.

Your dress shirt with a button-line and buttons is dividing the two sides, and the left side has the pocket like the Ark of the Covenant has a compartment. The curtain was once ONE and without blemish until satan caused man to violate God's laws and Orders, and crucified Christ and causing the tear in the curtain. This tear put asunder the Father and the Son by Spiritual crucifixion and separation; we divided the Son from the Father and this also placed the Father in hell by the death of His Son.

The conspiracy has hidden these truths and created a world of fantasy and lies. This is what we will awaken to when the going gets very rough for America. The majority of Americans will not know the true reason for their rebellion and that will cause their demise.

The coming Elijah message will have the answers to all of the mysteries that plague us and keep us in a downward spiral fall.

Examples of twp witnesses may also be seen in the Christ and the Antichrist, just as seen in Black and White. Why is Obama the first Black President and the 44th to boot? Because he forms the Image of the Antichrist in a counterfeit image of the 144,000 elect law makers of God.

There are many Biblical proofs and physical proofs that give great and positive identification to President Obama as the representative of the Babylonian power.

I haven't mentioned 9-1-1 and the Twin Tower parallel's yet, and that's another story and very complex. The entire world is still in dark about the truth. The world is plagued with an identity crisis, I mean a spiritual one.
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yes they will have answers to the many mysteries left undiscovered, but NONE will believe them nor resonate with that which they bring as it is entirely new to them since it was not taught in their mainstream churches and religions

this is why the whole world will celebrate their deaths just prior to the wrath at the 7th Trumpet when they resurrect
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From a thread I made in March of this year:






The Branch is the 2 witnesses of Revelation


:nuclear:



No where is Jesus ever mentioned as being a "Branch"..Jesus is always the "Vine"....the 2 witnesses are the "Branch"

One witness is a "king" and the other is a "priest"



Zechariah 6:12-13

King James Version (KJV)

12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:

13 Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

The Branch is clearly the one building the temple of the Lord and in the book of Zechariah it is Joshua the priest and Zerubbabel the head of the tribe of Judah building the temple and the counsel of peace shall be between the king and the priest

:leftrightkingpri:




Jeremiah 23 shows the Zerubbabel half of the Branch

Jeremiah 23:5-6

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5 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice(righteousness) in the earth.

6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby "he" shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.




Jeremiah 33 shows the Joshua half of the Branch
...notice no mention of the word "King" in these verses that is because it is the "Priest" side...the world is made up of male and female the kingdom of God is made up of kings and priests...kings masculine and priests feminine but not of the nature as we think of male and female on earth.

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith "she" shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.

17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne(King) of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.


Psalm 72(A psalm of solomon)

King James Version (KJV)

72 Give the king thy judgments, O God, and thy righteousness unto the king's son.

Notice the "Branch" executes "Judgement and righteousness"
The king thy judgement and the kings son thy righteousness"

The "Branch is 2 that become 1 because the Branch has the mission of joining the 2 that are separated Judah and Israel
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"the counsel of peace" that will be "between them both" refers to the fact that the Davidic King during the Millennium will be working here upon the earth as a co-diety with Christ who will remain in the Heaven above until the end of the Millennium Age, and who will be working thru him and with him having been brought forth within him in spirit during the time of tribulation
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From a thread I made in March of this year:






The Branch is the 2 witnesses of Revelation


:nuclear:



No where is Jesus ever mentioned as being a "Branch"..Jesus is always the "Vine"....the 2 witnesses are the "Branch"

One witness is a "king" and the other is a "priest"



Zechariah 6:12-13

King James Version (KJV)

12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:

13 Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

The Branch is clearly the one building the temple of the Lord and in the book of Zechariah it is Joshua the priest and Zerubbabel the head of the tribe of Judah building the temple and the counsel of peace shall be between the king and the priest

:leftrightkingpri:




Jeremiah 23 shows the Zerubbabel half of the Branch

Jeremiah 23:5-6

King James Version (KJV)

5 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice(righteousness) in the earth.

6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby "he" shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.




Jeremiah 33 shows the Joshua half of the Branch
...notice no mention of the word "King" in these verses that is because it is the "Priest" side...the world is made up of male and female the kingdom of God is made up of kings and priests...kings masculine and priests feminine but not of the nature as we think of male and female on earth.

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith "she" shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.

17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne(King) of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.


Psalm 72(A psalm of solomon)

King James Version (KJV)

72 Give the king thy judgments, O God, and thy righteousness unto the king's son.

Notice the "Branch" executes "Judgement and righteousness"
The king thy judgement and the kings son thy righteousness"

The "Branch is 2 that become 1 because the Branch has the mission of joining the 2 that are separated Judah and Israel
 Quoting: waterman




"the counsel of peace" that will be "between them both" refers to the fact that the Davidic King during the Millennium will be working here upon the earth as a co-diety with Christ who will remain in the Heaven above until the end of the Millennium Age, and who will be working thru him and with him having been brought forth within him in spirit during the time of tribulation
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just as the Christ is both King and Priest, so too can the branch be with equal measure

for all of Gods Election are already priests forever after the order of Melchezidek, (Christ being Melchezidek, King of the Zadok Priesthood) hence with the branch having grown forth from the rod out of Jesse or Christ, the same can hold true accordingly in their own regard
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More observations about scripture.

Dan 10:6 His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.

Dan 10:9 Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground.


These things I have posted about are not solidified truths, they need to be worked out and truths sought after.
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I can work with that but it is a break from the flow the book was taking, Da:2 was a vision with 4 parts, part one was covered in detail and names were supplied for the gold and silver. Chapter 4,5,6 I believe. A break in chapter 7 to describe the metal kingdoms in a different form, one that has no meaning for Daniel but one every reader of Revelation would instantly recognize and that connection is a correct one. Da:8 and 9 cover the brass kingdom and that is given in prophecy. The short but not very convincing path that covers the cross and that means it is tied to the completion of the bruise to the heel from Ge:3:15. The metal statue has a 4th kingdom that is just introduced in the last few verses of Da:8. The brass has a long pause in it at the end of the verses given and when her 'end' comes. Rome was the nation the verses fit in the Bible and in that time there was something called 'the time of the Gentiles' was started by Rome. The end of that period that was part of the De:4:30 prophecy and that is still in the future unless we were in the last 3 1/2 years. All of the iron/clay verses from Daniel are meant to fit into the 5th and 6th trumps of Revelation as well as the passages that apply to what goes on in those 42 months that Satan is loose and the last 42 months that Gentiles rule over Jerusalem (meaning no physical Temple as we use the same one Daniel used while in exile in Babylon, the prayer in De:4 is the same one that Christians are given in the NT as far as the opening part goes, phase II varies from person to person, etc.

Back to Daniel 10, that same thing I just fell prey to actually separated the bruise to the heel from the bruise to the head and that is what all of Da:11 is about and it meshes with Revelation alone. The gold, silver and brass are all in the first 6 of 8 kings in all. That's about 4 long threads there alone.
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pardon me, however what is intended when they say "third Heaven" is that it is Heaven during the third and final earth Age...
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Lets see if we agree on what the first and 2nd are. day 1 in Ge:ended with the earth spinning and the sun giving off light, the end of day mention the beginning of heaven that can be taken to mean the surface of dry ground or liquid water as found on the earth. Birds are called 'fowl of heaven' in that they fly in heaven but always land on the earth. That is considered to be the 1st heaven and the men on it are beings of the first birth, or we should be, the fall made us know about good and evil before 'the last moment' so we on on the alternate and much longer route via Ge:3:15

there is ever and always only one Heaven, Heaven being wherever God is.
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True enough, even inside the earth is a place God can reach. Beings that knew about good and evil at the beginning were heavenly creatures and they are of the 2nd birth and they are immortal and they know about good and evil. Men are ruled by the time given in the day 4 naming of created things, like the bodies of heaven that is above our clouds. These are beings of the 2nd birth and they operate under a different time scale, one day is 1,000 years so a year would be 360,000 years. That was the law because Satan was angelic and he and others were on the earth from that day on. Adam was destined to die on the same day he sinned, he died at 930 years so he was 70 years short of being 1 day old in the Kingdom of Heaven (3rd heaven) That dating lasted until the exodus and the 10 commandments and the death of the children of the fallen angels.
That same timing will return because it was fallen angels that were in charge and the adoption of the law in re:21 is befitting a people that are immortal, sinless, and know about good and evil.` This is like Noah after the flood and he looks around at all 8 people instead of before the flood when that same view would have included 8 million people.

there are however, and/or have been and will yet be three earth and Heaven AGES...
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Here is where I should button my lips and let you talk.

the Lords Day and/or the Millennium consists of the first thousand years of the third and final Earth and Heaven Age
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Mine is pretty close and Isa:65 is an excellent summation if you start of taking the ones killed by the 7 vials as being the ones killed by the sword in Isa:65 and the verses that include punishment after the sword kills you. His servants have it much better and that would represent all the ones in Re:20:4 as being the ones alive during that same period of time. That chapter leaves out some information between the punishment and the verse that has Jerusalem in it. What is held back is that it is New Jerusalem that is being talked about but after the Great White Throne and Re:22 where is settles down on the new earth. Without knowing the dimensions of New Jerusalem in the OT it would be OT Jerusalem that would be thought of rather than the one in Re:21 that could comfortably hold all the ones live on day one of the 1,000 years. There is also an NT verse that mentions in the resurrection people are not married so no children will be born to any of them for the 1,000 years and when they leave there and enter New Jerusalem after the rest are judged at the GWT. That 1,000 years made them go from being 'just' to being 'perfect' and the ones called 'the rest' are in the same condition as they were at the start of the 1,000 years except this is the start of the new year so all the verses in Isa:65 that mention that are for the ones who live outside the city walls, they have children and since all angelic being have stayed in the 3rd heaven the universe is open for exploration by immortal people.

Hopefully that is short of being a rant and since this is our first time this might help you explain how yours point is different.

Jeremiah 23 shows the Zerubbabel half of the Branch

Jeremiah 23:5-6

King James Version (KJV)

5 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice(righteousness) in the earth.

6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby "he" shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.


Given the timing of these verses the same temple staff was going to try and kill Jeremiah right then and there, the response from God was to determine Jer:25 on everybody, that means Neb is the one as that is who came into the holy land and he was king of the land without a doubt.
I look at it this way, if Zec:14 is an expansion of what goes on in Revelation after all the vials have been poured out then I have to look at other things in the book that put it as being prophetic. I'm pretty certain that even though Daniel only touched on the end of the iron/clay that all 12 books listed after Daniel all deal specifically with the return as given in revelation, the bruise to the head finish, the 4 Gospels are how the other bruise was completed

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Hi neighbor! You are 100% correct. Zerubbabel represents the Kings, and Joshua represents the Priests. Together they represent Gods governmental authority. They will be among the world as pairs.
Jesus is the root from the stem of Jesse!
Now since they are a representation, I would say it does not preclude Elijah from being among them.
We still don't know who the two witnesses will be in Jerusalem, but they will be from among the 144,000.
I am glad you posted this truth!

Zec 6:12 Behold, the Man whose name is the BRANCH!
From His place He shall branch out.
And He shall build the temple of the Lord

So how could it be Jesus? Notice that "Man" is capitalized. They will be like Jesus was in the earth! The Kings are the sword of the Lord.
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Good Day, Friends,

The Spirit of God indicates to me that quite a few of our fellow brothers and sisters are visiting this thread.

Praise, Honor and Glory be to God Almighty!

1 Thessalonians 5:10
Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
1 Thessalonians 5:11
Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do

May God Bless you all,
RockyMtnLady
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Very interesting hearing all the mention of the Davidic priesthood.
Holy Spirit told me a couple years ago that all the 144,000 are descendants of David.
I usually get beat up pretty good for telling this, but it is the truth. So I share this now.

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