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Good Day, Friends,

The Spirit of God indicates to me that quite a few of our fellow brothers and sisters are visiting this thread.

Praise, Honor and Glory be to God Almighty!

1 Thessalonians 5:10
Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
1 Thessalonians 5:11
Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do

May God Bless you all,
RockyMtnLady
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I sent you some green OP! Rock on!
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Hi neighbor! You are 100% correct. Zerubbabel represents the Kings, and Joshua represents the Priests. Together they represent Gods governmental authority. They will be among the world as pairs.
Jesus is the root from the stem of Jesse!
Now since they are a representation, I would say it does not preclude Elijah from being among them.
We still don't know who the two witnesses will be in Jerusalem, but they will be from among the 144,000.
I am glad you posted this truth!

Zec 6:12 Behold, the Man whose name is the BRANCH!
From His place He shall branch out.
And He shall build the temple of the Lord

So how could it be Jesus? Notice that "Man" is capitalized. They will be like Jesus was in the earth! The Kings are the sword of the Lord.
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Hi bigD111,

It is important to mention that the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3 will not be in physical Jerusalem. What is meant here is "spiritual" Jerusalem.

Thank you for joining.

RockyMtnLady
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Hi neighbor! You are 100% correct. Zerubbabel represents the Kings, and Joshua represents the Priests. Together they represent Gods governmental authority. They will be among the world as pairs.
Jesus is the root from the stem of Jesse!
Now since they are a representation, I would say it does not preclude Elijah from being among them.
We still don't know who the two witnesses will be in Jerusalem, but they will be from among the 144,000.
I am glad you posted this truth!

Zec 6:12 Behold, the Man whose name is the BRANCH!
From His place He shall branch out.
And He shall build the temple of the Lord

So how could it be Jesus? Notice that "Man" is capitalized. They will be like Jesus was in the earth! The Kings are the sword of the Lord.
 Quoting: bigD111


Hi bigD111,

It is important to mention that the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3 will not be in physical Jerusalem. What is meant here is "spiritual" Jerusalem.

Thank you for joining.

RockyMtnLady
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Interesting! Please elaborate!
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Hi neighbor! You are 100% correct. Zerubbabel represents the Kings, and Joshua represents the Priests. Together they represent Gods governmental authority. They will be among the world as pairs.
Jesus is the root from the stem of Jesse!
Now since they are a representation, I would say it does not preclude Elijah from being among them.
We still don't know who the two witnesses will be in Jerusalem, but they will be from among the 144,000.
I am glad you posted this truth!

Zec 6:12 Behold, the Man whose name is the BRANCH!
From His place He shall branch out.
And He shall build the temple of the Lord

So how could it be Jesus? Notice that "Man" is capitalized. They will be like Jesus was in the earth! The Kings are the sword of the Lord.
 Quoting: bigD111


Hi bigD111,

It is important to mention that the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3 will not be in physical Jerusalem. What is meant here is "spiritual" Jerusalem.

Thank you for joining.

RockyMtnLady
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Interesting! Please elaborate!
 Quoting: bigD111


Certainly, will do when I return. They will do their work in "Spiritual" Jerusalem. Similarly,the tribes of Israel mentioned in Rev 7 are spiritual tribes, those who will be sealed before the great tribulation. The day of circumcision for the Jews will be time period of the seventh seal and the seventh trumpet, whereas the 144000 belong in the time period of the sixth seal and the sixth trumpet.

May God Bless you!
RockyMtnLady
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Hi neighbor! You are 100% correct. Zerubbabel represents the Kings, and Joshua represents the Priests. Together they represent Gods governmental authority. They will be among the world as pairs.
Jesus is the root from the stem of Jesse!
Now since they are a representation, I would say it does not preclude Elijah from being among them.
We still don't know who the two witnesses will be in Jerusalem, but they will be from among the 144,000.
I am glad you posted this truth!

Zec 6:12 Behold, the Man whose name is the BRANCH!
From His place He shall branch out.
And He shall build the temple of the Lord

So how could it be Jesus? Notice that "Man" is capitalized. They will be like Jesus was in the earth! The Kings are the sword of the Lord.
 Quoting: bigD111


Hi bigD111,

It is important to mention that the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3 will not be in physical Jerusalem. What is meant here is "spiritual" Jerusalem.

Thank you for joining.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


Interesting! Please elaborate!
 Quoting: bigD111


Certainly, will do when I return. They will do their work in "Spiritual" Jerusalem. Similarly,the tribes of Israel mentioned in Rev 7 are spiritual tribes, those who will be sealed before the great tribulation. The day of circumcision for the Jews will be time period of the seventh seal and the seventh trumpet, whereas the 144000 belong in the time period of the sixth seal and the sixth trumpet.

May God Bless you!
RockyMtnLady
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Thank you, always learning more you know! God Bless you too!
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Dear Seekers of Everything True,

PehJeshuah posted an important exposition this morning on the longest "Two Witnesses" thread. It is addressed to "Exploring The Truth". Please take the time, in prayer, to read it.

I pray for all of us.

RockyMtnLady
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The Two Witnesses are Elijah and Enoch, who never died and are alive today by virtue of contact with the Tree of Life (which was never destroyed) and who will return to public ministry at the time of the Antichrist.

The 144,000 is a figurative term meant to represent those in union with the successors of the Apostles and the Vicar of Christ.

The only Rapture will be at the Second Coming of Christ.

By the way, the Catholic Church wrote the Bible and Protestants are simply confused, heretical Catholics.

lookie here
 Quoting: FreakObserver


The 144,000 are most certainly people. Revelation 14.3and they sing as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four living creatures and the elders: and no man could learn the song save the hundred and forty and four thousand, [even] they that had been purchased out of the earth.

RockyMtnLady
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Here is what the Haydock Commentary (George Haydock's Bible blows away the King James "version"; the Haydock Bible was the one JFK took the Oath on) says about the 144,000:




Ver. 1. Behold a Lamb, by which is divers times represented our Saviour Christ. (Witham)

Ver. 3. They sung as it were a new canticle. In these visions, after persecutions, are sometimes introduced rejoicings to encourage the servants of God in their sufferings from the wicked world. --- No man could say (or sing) the canticle, but those hundred and forty-four thousand: by which are signified the elect, who were not defiled with women. Some expound this literally of those who always lived virgins; others understand all those who lived or died with a pure and clean heart, exempt from the corruption of vices, and of whom it is said, (ver. 5) that in their mouth was found no lie, and that they were without spot for the throne of God. (Witham)

Ver. 4. These are they, &c. In the style of the prophets, by fornication is meant idolatry, and virginity signifies cleanness from all sacrilegious worship. These, therefore, are virgins in this sense, who have not fallen into the impurities of creature worship. But others, as St. Augustine, understand it of persons who have lived in continency. The first, however, is the more literal sense. (Calmet)
 Quoting: FreakObserver


Hi Freak Observer,

This took me some time. But, what you haven't quite grasped is the Apostasy that has taken place. There has been a TOTAL FALLING AWAY from the truth; this commentary is written during the "falling away" or apostasy so it holds no truth. I know how it is to hear this....it was very difficult to first grasp and your first instinct is going to be to reject what I am saying...but, I tell you the truth. Jesus foretold of the Apostasy in John 9.4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.

It was the reason why John wept in Revelation 5.4: I wept and wept because no one was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside.

Please pray and ask for guidance regarding this the great falling away.

May God Bless you,
RockyMtnLady
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Hi Freak Observer,
I feel you have an honest heart, therefore I wanted to compile the Scriptures for you that speak of the Falling Away or Apostasy. Here they are: Mat 13:24-30; 1 Joh 2:18 and Rev 13:7; 2 Thes 2:7 ;Dan 8:10-12; 2 Tim 4:3-4; Luk 17:22; 2 Cor 4:3-4; Am 8:12; Rev 9:6; Jer 2:5; Ezek 18:1-2; Ezek 59:15-17

Therefore, The result of all this will be what is foretold in Isa 24

May God Bless you,
RockyMtnLady
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I am aware of what you believe about the levitic and davidic priesthoods, and to be honest with you, I don't have any clue what you talk about. I am not going to pretend I know about something I don't. I do know they have nothing to do w/ the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3. I have seen a couple posts of yours, and please don't take this the wrong way, but they are confusing to me and don't resonate at all with truth in my heart or w/ Holy Scripture.

I do wish you well, though.

RockyMtnLady
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Here is the eternal promise of the davidic kingship and levitic preisthood in Jeremiah 33 which is speaking of the Branch:


Jeremiah 33:

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.

17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.

19 And the word of the Lord came unto Jeremiah, saying,

20 Thus saith the Lord; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;

21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.


22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.

23 Moreover the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah, saying,

24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the Lord hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.

25 Thus saith the Lord; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;

26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.
 Quoting: waterman


This shows you have little understanding of historical Israel. In order to understand, we must consult Dan 9:24-27:
"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

This is PJ's comment:

These seventy weeks are 70 x 7 prophetic years, which make up 490 years. The last week of the 70 weeks consists of 7 years in the midst of which Jesus was crucified. That happened in 33 AD, for the last week started in 29 and ended in 36 AD. The important point is that during the last week God did anoint the most Holy and thereby put an end to the Levitical priesthood (Heb 7:11), so with that priesthood ended the historical office of the Levites was no longer needed. This fact came visibly true to the Jews when their temple was destroyed, and there is no temple anywhere for any so-called Levites to do their work. Therefore, their Levitical work at the literal temple ended for ever!

You say that the true two witnesses will "both be Levites for they will stand before the Lord", which is mere stupidity of you to say, for the two cherubim that were one piece with the mercy-seat, as we can read in Exo 25:19, are the ones who symbolize the two witnesses in Rev 11:3 and not any Levites, who were not allowed to enter the Most Holy.
And make one cherub at the one end, and one cherub at the other end: of one piece with the mercy-seat shall ye make the cherubim on the two ends thereof.
Quoting: The Bible

The high priest was the only one allowed to enter the Most Holy once a year, symbolizing Jesus Christ.

When we also consider the biblical fact that the time period of the sixth angel, which is now, when the true two witnesses will do their work, is still the time period of the Gentiles, being the seventh thousand year period, while the Jews' time period will be the eighth thousand year period, that of the seventh angel, as foreshadowed by Leviticus 12:3, we see how stupid and ignorant you are of Scripture:
And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised."
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Hopefully, that information helps you get a clearer picture of historical Israel, which I myself am just beginning to grasp.

Therefore, through Scripture, we see that the Branch couldn't possibly be these priesthoods.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


This is your thread so I will leave it at we will have to agree to disagree...have a good night


2wit2
 Quoting: waterman




PJ's work has been proven false many times. I wiped the dust from my feet on that thread or sham of a thread that he seeks to take control of.

The two witnesses serve a flesh mission. It is for a prescribed 1260 days which is the last part of the tribulation period aka the "great tribulation". They prophesy and perform supernatural works. The key words are they or two. Everything is done in at least tandem. Look at how Christ sent the disciples out. He said where two or more gather, there I am also. Most of Christ' works and teachings are verified by at least two disciples. Paul even instructs the church to use two or three in prophecy and when angelic tongues are uttered, it should not be done unless there is also an interpreter.

From biblehub.com - the Aramaic bible - Revelation 11:4“ These are the two olive trees and the two menorahs, which stand before the Lord of the whole Earth.” The two witnesses have just been called olive trees and menorahs. Why? It must have meaning, and it does.

When the disciples asked Christ when the end would come at "Mount of Olives" he answered them it in what is known as the Olivet Discourse. His first part deals with the destruction of the second temple in 70AD. He prophesied it, and it came to be. From his birth to the destruction of the second temple is 70 years. The typical life of an olive tree is 70 years.

We also know that Christ went into the earth for three days, was then resurrected and along with him saints came of the tombs and appeared to many. Where did they go? From Ephesians 4:There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
7But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
8Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? 10He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) 11And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

He brought them forward and deposited them in this time. How do we know this? If man is appointed to die once then it has to be this time because we know from scripture that when Israel becomes a nation again this generation will not pass. They walk among you today. Some have experienced parousia and some haven't. Christ said the first will be last and the last will be first. If the first fruits of the first resurrection went with him and were deposited in this time, it is consistent with what he said. He said he is the alpha and omega; so, what is in this last 70 years 1948 - 2018 should be reflection of what was in the first 70 years.

The days are shortened for the sake of the elect and flesh is saved. This is why they are referred to as lampstands or menorahs. The seven candles refer to the seven days of creation.

Peter says a day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day.If you look at the Jewish calendar, then it is in year 5774. That would be 5.774 days. The beast of the field and then God's last creation man was made on the 6th day. Tom Horn says the great pyramid is 5776 inches tall. egyptology is the antithesis of the Jewish effort. They were in captivity for 430 years. The gregorian calendar also marks this captivity in reflection. It went into effect in 1582 and 2012 marked 430 years. The cursed pyramid culture of the mayans who evoked the feathered serpent knew the time was up and eminent judgment would rain on mankind. That age has ended.

How do we know the works of egypt work against Israel? It is against Israel on both a spiritual and fleshly plane. If it isn't then why does God destroy egypt in the endtimes from Ezekiel 29:12? Man nor beast will inhabit it for 40 years.

Ezekiel is a very prophetic book. Look at chapter 37The Vision Explained
11Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. 12Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 14And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

Obviously, these people have died and will be brought back to the land of Israel. They were scattered. If they are resurrected, then they have to be part of the generation that will not pass because as said before man is appointed to die only once. How many scattered Jews were exterminated in hitler's death camps? 6 million. How many Jews are in Israel today? From the wikipedia.org entry for Israel. The population of Israel, as defined by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics, was estimated in 2013 to be 8,051,200 people, of whom 6,045,900 are Jewish. There is alot more to this. Christ said he would come as a thief in the night. The works of God and particularly the book of Daniel have been shrouded in mystery until now.

Here's a couple of things about egyptology. From wikiperdia.org. [link to en.wikipedia.org] The year is 365 days. Five are left over and account for the walk of satan against God in the days of creation. The unholy pentagram symbolizes this. The effort is to form the 6th day of the creation of man and curse flesh totally. The elect are the reason that day is shortened. The egyptian new year also falls on this ominous day in conjunction with the gregorian calendar. [link to en.wikipedia.org] It is September 11 Imagine that.

I know Waterman has taken alot of grief, but he's right. The two witnesses come from the marriage of Judah and Ephraim. Melchezidek is the high priest. The works of egyptian masonry in dark ritual has made every effort to stop this. I can prove it. They know Melchezidek is important. The longest river in eurpoe is the Danube. It is word formed from "dan" and "anubis". anubis is the egyptian false doghead god of the dead. "book of the dead" is 666 in Jewish gematria. The river starts in the black forest of "deutschland" (also 666 in Jewish gematria) and ends in the black sea. The city of Melk (the hacked name of Melchezidek) is on the danube and home the the abbey of melk. The center of this town is exactly 666 nautical miles from the center of a major satanic center in europe (the isle of wight). The birthplace of hitler in branau im inn, austria is 666 statute miles from the center of the isle of wight. Now add the fact that the kaaba stone in mecca, saudi arabia is 666 nautical miles from the birthplace of Christ and you see how their dark design is unravelling and being exposed. The Normandy Invasion is completely cryptic and it is central to understanding the core of the fight between Christ and the antichrist. Everything about that event is ritualistic. The naming of the beaches tell you where this is going. The Union Jack or Union of Jacob is the restoration of the Israel at its core with the 144,000 representing the 12 tribes of Israel in seed. They follow the good shepherd forever, and dwell closest to God. The cross breaks the x on that flag for good reason.

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Here is the eternal promise of the davidic kingship and levitic preisthood in Jeremiah 33 which is speaking of the Branch:


Jeremiah 33:

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.

17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.

19 And the word of the Lord came unto Jeremiah, saying,

20 Thus saith the Lord; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;

21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.


22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.

23 Moreover the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah, saying,

24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the Lord hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.

25 Thus saith the Lord; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;

26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.
 Quoting: waterman


This shows you have little understanding of historical Israel. In order to understand, we must consult Dan 9:24-27:
"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

This is PJ's comment:

These seventy weeks are 70 x 7 prophetic years, which make up 490 years. The last week of the 70 weeks consists of 7 years in the midst of which Jesus was crucified. That happened in 33 AD, for the last week started in 29 and ended in 36 AD. The important point is that during the last week God did anoint the most Holy and thereby put an end to the Levitical priesthood (Heb 7:11), so with that priesthood ended the historical office of the Levites was no longer needed. This fact came visibly true to the Jews when their temple was destroyed, and there is no temple anywhere for any so-called Levites to do their work. Therefore, their Levitical work at the literal temple ended for ever!

You say that the true two witnesses will "both be Levites for they will stand before the Lord", which is mere stupidity of you to say, for the two cherubim that were one piece with the mercy-seat, as we can read in Exo 25:19, are the ones who symbolize the two witnesses in Rev 11:3 and not any Levites, who were not allowed to enter the Most Holy.
And make one cherub at the one end, and one cherub at the other end: of one piece with the mercy-seat shall ye make the cherubim on the two ends thereof.
Quoting: The Bible

The high priest was the only one allowed to enter the Most Holy once a year, symbolizing Jesus Christ.

When we also consider the biblical fact that the time period of the sixth angel, which is now, when the true two witnesses will do their work, is still the time period of the Gentiles, being the seventh thousand year period, while the Jews' time period will be the eighth thousand year period, that of the seventh angel, as foreshadowed by Leviticus 12:3, we see how stupid and ignorant you are of Scripture:
And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised."
--------------------------------------------------------
Hopefully, that information helps you get a clearer picture of historical Israel, which I myself am just beginning to grasp.

Therefore, through Scripture, we see that the Branch couldn't possibly be these priesthoods.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


This is your thread so I will leave it at we will have to agree to disagree...have a good night


2wit2
 Quoting: waterman




PJ's work has been proven false many times. I wiped the dust from my feet on that thread or sham of a thread that he seeks to take control of.

The two witnesses serve a flesh mission. It is for a prescribed 1260 days which is the last part of the tribulation period aka the "great tribulation". They prophesy and perform supernatural works. The key words are they or two. Everything is done in at least tandem. Look at how Christ sent the disciples out. He said where two or more gather, there I am also. Most of Christ' works and teachings are verified by at least two disciples. Paul even instructs the church to use two or three in prophecy and when angelic tongues are uttered, it should not be done unless there is also an interpreter.

From biblehub.com - the Aramaic bible - Revelation 11:4“ These are the two olive trees and the two menorahs, which stand before the Lord of the whole Earth.” The two witnesses have just been called olive trees and menorahs. Why? It must have meaning, and it does.

When the disciples asked Christ when the end would come at "Mount of Olives" he answered them it what is known as the Olivet Discourse. His first part deals with the destruction of the second temple in 70AD. He prophesied it, and it came to be. From his birth to the destruction of the second temple is 70 years. The typical life of an olive tree is 70 years.

We also know that Christ went into the earth for three days, was then resurrected and along with him saints came of the tombs and appeared to many. Where did they go? From Ephesians 4:There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
7But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
8Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? 10He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) 11And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

He brought them forward and deposited them in this time. How do we know this? If man is appointed to die once then it has to be this time because we know from scripture that when Israel becomes a nation again this generation will not pass. They walk among you today. Some have experienced parousia and some haven't. Christ said the first will be last and the last will be first. If the first fruits of the first resurrection went with him and were deposited in this time, it is consistent with what he said. He said he is the alpha and omega; so, what is in this last 70 years 1948 - 2018 should be reflection of what was in the first 70 years.

The days are shortened for the sake of the elect and flesh is saved. This is why they are referred to as lampstands or menorahs. The seven candles refer to the seven days of creation.

Peter says a day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day.If you look at the Jewish calendar, then it is in year 5774. That would be 5.774 days. The beast of the field and then God's last creation man was made on the 6th day. Tom Horn says the great pyramid is 5776 inches tall. egyptology is the antithesis of the Jewish effort. They were in captivity for 430 years. The gregorian calendar also marks this captivity in reflection. It went into effect in 1582 and 2012 marked 430 years. The cursed pyramid culture of the mayans who evoked the feathered serpent knew the time was up and eminent judgment would rain on mankind. That age has ended.

How do we know the works of egypt work against Israel? It is against Israel on both a spiritual and fleshly plane. If it isn't then why does God destroy egypt in the endtimes from Ezekiel 29:12? Man nor beast will inhabit it for 40 years.

Ezekiel is a very prophetic book. Look at chapter 37:11The Vision Explained
11Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. 12Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 14And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

Obviously, these people have died and will be brought back to the land of Israel. They were scattered. If they are resurrected, then they have to be part of the generation that will not pass because as said before man is appointed to die only once. How many scattered Jews wee exterminated in hitler's death camps? 6 million. How many Jews are in Israel today? From the wikipedia.org entry for Israel. The population of Israel, as defined by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics, was estimated in 2013 to be 8,051,200 people, of whom 6,045,900 are Jewish. There is alot more to this. Christ said he would come as a thief in the night. The works of God and particularly the book of Daniel have been shrouded in mystery until now.

Here's a couple of things about egyptology. From wikiperdia.org. [link to en.wikipedia.org] The year is 365 days. Five are left over and account for the walk of satan against God in the days of creation. The unholy pentagram symbolizes this. The effort is to form the 6th day of the creation of man and curse flesh totally. The elect are the reason that day is shortened. The egyptian new year also falls on this ominous day in conjunction with the gregorian calendar. [link to en.wikipedia.org] It is September 11 Imagine that.

I know Waterman has taken alot of grief, but he's right. The two witnesses come from the marriage of Judah and Ephraim. Melchezidek is the high priest. The works of egyptian masonry in dark ritual has made every effort to stop this. I can prove it. They know Melchezidek is important. The longest river in eurpoe is the Danube. It is word formed from "dan" and "anubis". anubis is the egyptian false doghead god of the dead. "book of the dead" is 666 in Jewish gematria. The river starts in the black forest of "deutschland" (also 666 in Jewish gematria) and ends in the black sea. The city of Melk (the hacked name of Melchezidek) is on the danube and home the the abbey of melk. The center of this town is exactly 666 nautical miles from the center of a major satanic center in europe (the isle of wight). The birthplace of hitler in branau im inn, austria is 666 statute miles from the center of the isle of wight. Now add the fact that the kaaba stone in mecca, saudi arabia is 666 nautical miles from the birthplace of Christ and you see how their dark design is unravelling and being exposed. The Normandy Invasion is completely cryptic and it is central to understanding the core of the fight between Christ and the antichrist. Everything about that event is ritualistic. The naming of the beaches tell you where this is going. The Union Jack or Union of Jacob is the restoration of the Israel at its core with the 144,000 representing the 12 tribes of Israel in seed. They follow the good shepherd forever, and dwell closest to God. The cross breaks the x on that flag for good reason.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


First of all, PJ showed you false, not the other way around. Don't try to convince good, honest people here of the opposite. They can seek for themselves.

No one will testify during great tribulation. Additionally, The Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3 will not testify about priesthoods, rather they bring with them the everlasting gospel, which will save all inhabitants on earth.

What you say about 666 is just false and of your imagination. I will prove it once we get onto that subject.

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This shows you have little understanding of historical Israel. In order to understand, we must consult Dan 9:24-27:
"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

This is PJ's comment:

These seventy weeks are 70 x 7 prophetic years, which make up 490 years. The last week of the 70 weeks consists of 7 years in the midst of which Jesus was crucified. That happened in 33 AD, for the last week started in 29 and ended in 36 AD. The important point is that during the last week God did anoint the most Holy and thereby put an end to the Levitical priesthood (Heb 7:11), so with that priesthood ended the historical office of the Levites was no longer needed. This fact came visibly true to the Jews when their temple was destroyed, and there is no temple anywhere for any so-called Levites to do their work. Therefore, their Levitical work at the literal temple ended for ever!

You say that the true two witnesses will "both be Levites for they will stand before the Lord", which is mere stupidity of you to say, for the two cherubim that were one piece with the mercy-seat, as we can read in Exo 25:19, are the ones who symbolize the two witnesses in Rev 11:3 and not any Levites, who were not allowed to enter the Most Holy.
And make one cherub at the one end, and one cherub at the other end: of one piece with the mercy-seat shall ye make the cherubim on the two ends thereof.
Quoting: The Bible

The high priest was the only one allowed to enter the Most Holy once a year, symbolizing Jesus Christ.

When we also consider the biblical fact that the time period of the sixth angel, which is now, when the true two witnesses will do their work, is still the time period of the Gentiles, being the seventh thousand year period, while the Jews' time period will be the eighth thousand year period, that of the seventh angel, as foreshadowed by Leviticus 12:3, we see how stupid and ignorant you are of Scripture:
And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised."
--------------------------------------------------------
Hopefully, that information helps you get a clearer picture of historical Israel, which I myself am just beginning to grasp.

Therefore, through Scripture, we see that the Branch couldn't possibly be these priesthoods.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


This is your thread so I will leave it at we will have to agree to disagree...have a good night


2wit2
 Quoting: waterman




PJ's work has been proven false many times. I wiped the dust from my feet on that thread or sham of a thread that he seeks to take control of.

The two witnesses serve a flesh mission. It is for a prescribed 1260 days which is the last part of the tribulation period aka the "great tribulation". They prophesy and perform supernatural works. The key words are they or two. Everything is done in at least tandem. Look at how Christ sent the disciples out. He said where two or more gather, there I am also. Most of Christ' works and teachings are verified by at least two disciples. Paul even instructs the church to use two or three in prophecy and when angelic tongues are uttered, it should not be done unless there is also an interpreter.

From biblehub.com - the Aramaic bible - Revelation 11:4“ These are the two olive trees and the two menorahs, which stand before the Lord of the whole Earth.” The two witnesses have just been called olive trees and menorahs. Why? It must have meaning, and it does.

When the disciples asked Christ when the end would come at "Mount of Olives" he answered them it what is known as the Olivet Discourse. His first part deals with the destruction of the second temple in 70AD. He prophesied it, and it came to be. From his birth to the destruction of the second temple is 70 years. The typical life of an olive tree is 70 years.

We also know that Christ went into the earth for three days, was then resurrected and along with him saints came of the tombs and appeared to many. Where did they go? From Ephesians 4:There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
7But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
8Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? 10He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) 11And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

He brought them forward and deposited them in this time. How do we know this? If man is appointed to die once then it has to be this time because we know from scripture that when Israel becomes a nation again this generation will not pass. They walk among you today. Some have experienced parousia and some haven't. Christ said the first will be last and the last will be first. If the first fruits of the first resurrection went with him and were deposited in this time, it is consistent with what he said. He said he is the alpha and omega; so, what is in this last 70 years 1948 - 2018 should be reflection of what was in the first 70 years.

The days are shortened for the sake of the elect and flesh is saved. This is why they are referred to as lampstands or menorahs. The seven candles refer to the seven days of creation.

Peter says a day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day.If you look at the Jewish calendar, then it is in year 5774. That would be 5.774 days. The beast of the field and then God's last creation man was made on the 6th day. Tom Horn says the great pyramid is 5776 inches tall. egyptology is the antithesis of the Jewish effort. They were in captivity for 430 years. The gregorian calendar also marks this captivity in reflection. It went into effect in 1582 and 2012 marked 430 years. The cursed pyramid culture of the mayans who evoked the feathered serpent knew the time was up and eminent judgment would rain on mankind. That age has ended.

How do we know the works of egypt work against Israel? It is against Israel on both a spiritual and fleshly plane. If it isn't then why does God destroy egypt in the endtimes from Ezekiel 29:12? Man nor beast will inhabit it for 40 years.

Ezekiel is a very prophetic book. Look at chapter 37:11The Vision Explained
11Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. 12Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 14And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

Obviously, these people have died and will be brought back to the land of Israel. They were scattered. If they are resurrected, then they have to be part of the generation that will not pass because as said before man is appointed to die only once. How many scattered Jews wee exterminated in hitler's death camps? 6 million. How many Jews are in Israel today? From the wikipedia.org entry for Israel. The population of Israel, as defined by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics, was estimated in 2013 to be 8,051,200 people, of whom 6,045,900 are Jewish. There is alot more to this. Christ said he would come as a thief in the night. The works of God and particularly the book of Daniel have been shrouded in mystery until now.

Here's a couple of things about egyptology. From wikiperdia.org. [link to en.wikipedia.org] The year is 365 days. Five are left over and account for the walk of satan against God in the days of creation. The unholy pentagram symbolizes this. The effort is to form the 6th day of the creation of man and curse flesh totally. The elect are the reason that day is shortened. The egyptian new year also falls on this ominous day in conjunction with the gregorian calendar. [link to en.wikipedia.org] It is September 11 Imagine that.

I know Waterman has taken alot of grief, but he's right. The two witnesses come from the marriage of Judah and Ephraim. Melchezidek is the high priest. The works of egyptian masonry in dark ritual has made every effort to stop this. I can prove it. They know Melchezidek is important. The longest river in eurpoe is the Danube. It is word formed from "dan" and "anubis". anubis is the egyptian false doghead god of the dead. "book of the dead" is 666 in Jewish gematria. The river starts in the black forest of "deutschland" (also 666 in Jewish gematria) and ends in the black sea. The city of Melk (the hacked name of Melchezidek) is on the danube and home the the abbey of melk. The center of this town is exactly 666 nautical miles from the center of a major satanic center in europe (the isle of wight). The birthplace of hitler in branau im inn, austria is 666 statute miles from the center of the isle of wight. Now add the fact that the kaaba stone in mecca, saudi arabia is 666 nautical miles from the birthplace of Christ and you see how their dark design is unravelling and being exposed. The Normandy Invasion is completely cryptic and it is central to understanding the core of the fight between Christ and the antichrist. Everything about that event is ritualistic. The naming of the beaches tell you where this is going. The Union Jack or Union of Jacob is the restoration of the Israel at its core with the 144,000 representing the 12 tribes of Israel in seed. They follow the good shepherd forever, and dwell closest to God. The cross breaks the x on that flag for good reason.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


First of all, PJ showed you false, not the other way around. Don't try to convince good, honest people here of the opposite. They can seek for themselves.

No one will testify during great tribulation. Additionally, The Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3 will not testify about priesthoods, rather they bring with them the everlasting gospel, which will save all inhabitants on earth.

What you say about 666 is just false and of your imagination. I will prove it once we get onto that subject.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


Sorry folks...didn't mean to say "all inhabitants on earth" as we know, unfortunately, that doesn't happen.

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Here is the eternal promise of the davidic kingship and levitic preisthood in Jeremiah 33 which is speaking of the Branch:


Jeremiah 33:

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.

17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.

19 And the word of the Lord came unto Jeremiah, saying,

20 Thus saith the Lord; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;

21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.


22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.

23 Moreover the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah, saying,

24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the Lord hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.

25 Thus saith the Lord; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;

26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.
 Quoting: waterman


This shows you have little understanding of historical Israel. In order to understand, we must consult Dan 9:24-27:
"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

This is PJ's comment:

These seventy weeks are 70 x 7 prophetic years, which make up 490 years. The last week of the 70 weeks consists of 7 years in the midst of which Jesus was crucified. That happened in 33 AD, for the last week started in 29 and ended in 36 AD. The important point is that during the last week God did anoint the most Holy and thereby put an end to the Levitical priesthood (Heb 7:11), so with that priesthood ended the historical office of the Levites was no longer needed. This fact came visibly true to the Jews when their temple was destroyed, and there is no temple anywhere for any so-called Levites to do their work. Therefore, their Levitical work at the literal temple ended for ever!

You say that the true two witnesses will "both be Levites for they will stand before the Lord", which is mere stupidity of you to say, for the two cherubim that were one piece with the mercy-seat, as we can read in Exo 25:19, are the ones who symbolize the two witnesses in Rev 11:3 and not any Levites, who were not allowed to enter the Most Holy.
And make one cherub at the one end, and one cherub at the other end: of one piece with the mercy-seat shall ye make the cherubim on the two ends thereof.
Quoting: The Bible

The high priest was the only one allowed to enter the Most Holy once a year, symbolizing Jesus Christ.

When we also consider the biblical fact that the time period of the sixth angel, which is now, when the true two witnesses will do their work, is still the time period of the Gentiles, being the seventh thousand year period, while the Jews' time period will be the eighth thousand year period, that of the seventh angel, as foreshadowed by Leviticus 12:3, we see how stupid and ignorant you are of Scripture:
And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised."
--------------------------------------------------------
Hopefully, that information helps you get a clearer picture of historical Israel, which I myself am just beginning to grasp.

Therefore, through Scripture, we see that the Branch couldn't possibly be these priesthoods.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: rockymtnlady


This is your thread so I will leave it at we will have to agree to disagree...have a good night


2wit2
 Quoting: waterman




PJ's work has been proven false many times. I wiped the dust from my feet on that thread or sham of a thread that he seeks to take control of.

The two witnesses serve a flesh mission. It is for a prescribed 1260 days which is the last part of the tribulation period aka the "great tribulation". They prophesy and perform supernatural works. The key words are they or two. Everything is done in at least tandem. Look at how Christ sent the disciples out. He said where two or more gather, there I am also. Most of Christ' works and teachings are verified by at least two disciples. Paul even instructs the church to use two or three in prophecy and when angelic tongues are uttered, it should not be done unless there is also an interpreter.

From biblehub.com - the Aramaic bible - Revelation 11:4“ These are the two olive trees and the two menorahs, which stand before the Lord of the whole Earth.” The two witnesses have just been called olive trees and menorahs. Why? It must have meaning, and it does.

When the disciples asked Christ when the end would come at "Mount of Olives" he answered them it in what is known as the Olivet Discourse. His first part deals with the destruction of the second temple in 70AD. He prophesied it, and it came to be. From his birth to the destruction of the second temple is 70 years. The typical life of an olive tree is 70 years.

We also know that Christ went into the earth for three days, was then resurrected and along with him saints came of the tombs and appeared to many. Where did they go? From Ephesians 4:There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
7But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
8Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? 10He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) 11And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

He brought them forward and deposited them in this time. How do we know this? If man is appointed to die once then it has to be this time because we know from scripture that when Israel becomes a nation again this generation will not pass. They walk among you today. Some have experienced parousia and some haven't. Christ said the first will be last and the last will be first. If the first fruits of the first resurrection went with him and were deposited in this time, it is consistent with what he said. He said he is the alpha and omega; so, what is in this last 70 years 1948 - 2018 should be reflection of what was in the first 70 years.

The days are shortened for the sake of the elect and flesh is saved. This is why they are referred to as lampstands or menorahs. The seven candles refer to the seven days of creation.

Peter says a day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day.If you look at the Jewish calendar, then it is in year 5774. That would be 5.774 days. The beast of the field and then God's last creation man was made on the 6th day. Tom Horn says the great pyramid is 5776 inches tall. egyptology is the antithesis of the Jewish effort. They were in captivity for 430 years. The gregorian calendar also marks this captivity in reflection. It went into effect in 1582 and 2012 marked 430 years. The cursed pyramid culture of the mayans who evoked the feathered serpent knew the time was up and eminent judgment would rain on mankind. That age has ended.

How do we know the works of egypt work against Israel? It is against Israel on both a spiritual and fleshly plane. If it isn't then why does God destroy egypt in the endtimes from Ezekiel 29:12? Man nor beast will inhabit it for 40 years.

Ezekiel is a very prophetic book. Look at chapter 37The Vision Explained
11Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. 12Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 14And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

Obviously, these people have died and will be brought back to the land of Israel. They were scattered. If they are resurrected, then they have to be part of the generation that will not pass because as said before man is appointed to die only once. How many scattered Jews were exterminated in hitler's death camps? 6 million. How many Jews are in Israel today? From the wikipedia.org entry for Israel. The population of Israel, as defined by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics, was estimated in 2013 to be 8,051,200 people, of whom 6,045,900 are Jewish. There is alot more to this. Christ said he would come as a thief in the night. The works of God and particularly the book of Daniel have been shrouded in mystery until now.

Here's a couple of things about egyptology. From wikiperdia.org. [link to en.wikipedia.org] The year is 365 days. Five are left over and account for the walk of satan against God in the days of creation. The unholy pentagram symbolizes this. The effort is to form the 6th day of the creation of man and curse flesh totally. The elect are the reason that day is shortened. The egyptian new year also falls on this ominous day in conjunction with the gregorian calendar. [link to en.wikipedia.org] It is September 11 Imagine that.

I know Waterman has taken alot of grief, but he's right. The two witnesses come from the marriage of Judah and Ephraim. Melchezidek is the high priest. The works of egyptian masonry in dark ritual has made every effort to stop this. I can prove it. They know Melchezidek is important. The longest river in eurpoe is the Danube. It is word formed from "dan" and "anubis". anubis is the egyptian false doghead god of the dead. "book of the dead" is 666 in Jewish gematria. The river starts in the black forest of "deutschland" (also 666 in Jewish gematria) and ends in the black sea. The city of Melk (the hacked name of Melchezidek) is on the danube and home the the abbey of melk. The center of this town is exactly 666 nautical miles from the center of a major satanic center in europe (the isle of wight). The birthplace of hitler in branau im inn, austria is 666 statute miles from the center of the isle of wight. Now add the fact that the kaaba stone in mecca, saudi arabia is 666 nautical miles from the birthplace of Christ and you see how their dark design is unravelling and being exposed. The Normandy Invasion is completely cryptic and it is central to understanding the core of the fight between Christ and the antichrist. Everything about that event is ritualistic. The naming of the beaches tell you where this is going. The Union Jack or Union of Jacob is the restoration of the Israel at its core with the 144,000 representing the 12 tribes of Israel in seed. They follow the good shepherd forever, and dwell closest to God. The cross breaks the x on that flag for good reason.
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Quote from RML First of all, PJ showed you false, not the other way around. Don't try to convince good, honest people here of the opposite. They can seek for themselves.

No one will testify during great tribulation. Additionally, The Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3 will not testify about priesthoods, rather they bring with them the everlasting gospel, which will save all inhabitants on earth.

What you say about 666 is just false and of your imagination. I will prove it once we get onto that subject.

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Sorry folks...didn't mean to say "all inhabitants on earth" as we know, unfortunately, that doesn't happen.

RockyMtnLady




Now you are running for cover. PJ is wrong. The information that is presented is where conspiracy theory becomes conspiracy fact. There is way too much done by the darkside in laying this country out with a compass and a square and the world for that matter to suit dark egyptian masonry. You desperately want to prove what I write here and Waterman writes here as wrong when, in fact, it is you that has veered off course and run aground. God will destroy egypt. The grand chamber of the great pyramid is exactly 29.9792458NLat and the same number sequence as the speed of light which 299,792,458 m/sec.

We are told by God to come out of her (the mystery babylon). Yet you remain subject to the lies of the antichrist. Christ was not speaking idle words when he said this world would return to the times of Noah. It has and what has arisen from the flood waters of is in plain view. The nephilim who falsely rule want to keep you in a daze and confused. The evidence is overwhelming. God does not refer to the US by name for a reason. The mystery remains locked for you because it is a fabrication in this false matrix. There is a spiritual Israel and a spiritual egypt. That is it in a nutshell. What you see before and apparently within your person is the fight between the two. Christ was tempted in the desert for 40 days and saw all of the kingdoms of this finite world. There is only one true Kingdom which is God's The seventh trumpet brings that Kingdom to earth. The kingdoms of the earth are made the Kingdom of God.

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This shows you have little understanding of historical Israel. In order to understand, we must consult Dan 9:24-27:
"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

This is PJ's comment:

These seventy weeks are 70 x 7 prophetic years, which make up 490 years. The last week of the 70 weeks consists of 7 years in the midst of which Jesus was crucified. That happened in 33 AD, for the last week started in 29 and ended in 36 AD. The important point is that during the last week God did anoint the most Holy and thereby put an end to the Levitical priesthood (Heb 7:11), so with that priesthood ended the historical office of the Levites was no longer needed. This fact came visibly true to the Jews when their temple was destroyed, and there is no temple anywhere for any so-called Levites to do their work. Therefore, their Levitical work at the literal temple ended for ever!

You say that the true two witnesses will "both be Levites for they will stand before the Lord", which is mere stupidity of you to say, for the two cherubim that were one piece with the mercy-seat, as we can read in Exo 25:19, are the ones who symbolize the two witnesses in Rev 11:3 and not any Levites, who were not allowed to enter the Most Holy.
And make one cherub at the one end, and one cherub at the other end: of one piece with the mercy-seat shall ye make the cherubim on the two ends thereof.
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The high priest was the only one allowed to enter the Most Holy once a year, symbolizing Jesus Christ.

When we also consider the biblical fact that the time period of the sixth angel, which is now, when the true two witnesses will do their work, is still the time period of the Gentiles, being the seventh thousand year period, while the Jews' time period will be the eighth thousand year period, that of the seventh angel, as foreshadowed by Leviticus 12:3, we see how stupid and ignorant you are of Scripture:
And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised."
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Hopefully, that information helps you get a clearer picture of historical Israel, which I myself am just beginning to grasp.

Therefore, through Scripture, we see that the Branch couldn't possibly be these priesthoods.

RockyMtnLady
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This is your thread so I will leave it at we will have to agree to disagree...have a good night


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PJ's work has been proven false many times. I wiped the dust from my feet on that thread or sham of a thread that he seeks to take control of.

The two witnesses serve a flesh mission. It is for a prescribed 1260 days which is the last part of the tribulation period aka the "great tribulation". They prophesy and perform supernatural works. The key words are they or two. Everything is done in at least tandem. Look at how Christ sent the disciples out. He said where two or more gather, there I am also. Most of Christ' works and teachings are verified by at least two disciples. Paul even instructs the church to use two or three in prophecy and when angelic tongues are uttered, it should not be done unless there is also an interpreter.

From biblehub.com - the Aramaic bible - Revelation 11:4“ These are the two olive trees and the two menorahs, which stand before the Lord of the whole Earth.” The two witnesses have just been called olive trees and menorahs. Why? It must have meaning, and it does.

When the disciples asked Christ when the end would come at "Mount of Olives" he answered them it in what is known as the Olivet Discourse. His first part deals with the destruction of the second temple in 70AD. He prophesied it, and it came to be. From his birth to the destruction of the second temple is 70 years. The typical life of an olive tree is 70 years.

We also know that Christ went into the earth for three days, was then resurrected and along with him saints came of the tombs and appeared to many. Where did they go? From Ephesians 4:There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
7But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
8Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? 10He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) 11And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

He brought them forward and deposited them in this time. How do we know this? If man is appointed to die once then it has to be this time because we know from scripture that when Israel becomes a nation again this generation will not pass. They walk among you today. Some have experienced parousia and some haven't. Christ said the first will be last and the last will be first. If the first fruits of the first resurrection went with him and were deposited in this time, it is consistent with what he said. He said he is the alpha and omega; so, what is in this last 70 years 1948 - 2018 should be reflection of what was in the first 70 years.

The days are shortened for the sake of the elect and flesh is saved. This is why they are referred to as lampstands or menorahs. The seven candles refer to the seven days of creation.

Peter says a day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day.If you look at the Jewish calendar, then it is in year 5774. That would be 5.774 days. The beast of the field and then God's last creation man was made on the 6th day. Tom Horn says the great pyramid is 5776 inches tall. egyptology is the antithesis of the Jewish effort. They were in captivity for 430 years. The gregorian calendar also marks this captivity in reflection. It went into effect in 1582 and 2012 marked 430 years. The cursed pyramid culture of the mayans who evoked the feathered serpent knew the time was up and eminent judgment would rain on mankind. That age has ended.

How do we know the works of egypt work against Israel? It is against Israel on both a spiritual and fleshly plane. If it isn't then why does God destroy egypt in the endtimes from Ezekiel 29:12? Man nor beast will inhabit it for 40 years.

Ezekiel is a very prophetic book. Look at chapter 37The Vision Explained
11Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. 12Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 14And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

Obviously, these people have died and will be brought back to the land of Israel. They were scattered. If they are resurrected, then they have to be part of the generation that will not pass because as said before man is appointed to die only once. How many scattered Jews were exterminated in hitler's death camps? 6 million. How many Jews are in Israel today? From the wikipedia.org entry for Israel. The population of Israel, as defined by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics, was estimated in 2013 to be 8,051,200 people, of whom 6,045,900 are Jewish. There is alot more to this. Christ said he would come as a thief in the night. The works of God and particularly the book of Daniel have been shrouded in mystery until now.

Here's a couple of things about egyptology. From wikiperdia.org. [link to en.wikipedia.org] The year is 365 days. Five are left over and account for the walk of satan against God in the days of creation. The unholy pentagram symbolizes this. The effort is to form the 6th day of the creation of man and curse flesh totally. The elect are the reason that day is shortened. The egyptian new year also falls on this ominous day in conjunction with the gregorian calendar. [link to en.wikipedia.org] It is September 11 Imagine that.

I know Waterman has taken alot of grief, but he's right. The two witnesses come from the marriage of Judah and Ephraim. Melchezidek is the high priest. The works of egyptian masonry in dark ritual has made every effort to stop this. I can prove it. They know Melchezidek is important. The longest river in eurpoe is the Danube. It is word formed from "dan" and "anubis". anubis is the egyptian false doghead god of the dead. "book of the dead" is 666 in Jewish gematria. The river starts in the black forest of "deutschland" (also 666 in Jewish gematria) and ends in the black sea. The city of Melk (the hacked name of Melchezidek) is on the danube and home the the abbey of melk. The center of this town is exactly 666 nautical miles from the center of a major satanic center in europe (the isle of wight). The birthplace of hitler in branau im inn, austria is 666 statute miles from the center of the isle of wight. Now add the fact that the kaaba stone in mecca, saudi arabia is 666 nautical miles from the birthplace of Christ and you see how their dark design is unravelling and being exposed. The Normandy Invasion is completely cryptic and it is central to understanding the core of the fight between Christ and the antichrist. Everything about that event is ritualistic. The naming of the beaches tell you where this is going. The Union Jack or Union of Jacob is the restoration of the Israel at its core with the 144,000 representing the 12 tribes of Israel in seed. They follow the good shepherd forever, and dwell closest to God. The cross breaks the x on that flag for good reason.
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Now you are running for cover. PJ is wrong. The information that is presented is where conspiracy theory becomes conspiracy fact. There is way too much done by the darkside in laying this country out with a compass and a square and the world for that matter to suit dark egyptian masonry. You desperately want to prove what I write here and Waterman writes here as wrong when, in fact, it is you that has veered off course and run aground. God will destroy egypt. The grand chamber of the great pyramid is exactly 29.9792458NLat and the same number sequence as the speed of light which 299,792,458 m/sec.

We are told by God to come out of her (the mystery babylon). Yet you remain subject to the lies of the antichrist. Christ was not speaking idle words when he said this world would return to the times of Noah. It has and what has arisen from the flood waters of is in plain view. The nephilim who falsely rule want to keep you in a daze and confused. The evidence is overwhelming. God does not refer to the US by name for a reason. The mystery remains locked for you because it is a fabrication is this false matrix. There is a spiritual Israel and a spiritual egypt. That is it in a nutshell. What you see before and apparently within your person is the fight between the two. Christ was tempted in the desert for 40 days and saw all of the kingdoms of this finite world. There is only one true Kingdom which is God's The seventh trumpet brings that Kingdom to earth. The kingdoms of the earth are made the Kingdom of God.
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Please tell the people here what you think Mystery Babylon is?

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First of all, PJ showed you false, not the other way around. Don't try to convince good, honest people here of the opposite. They can seek for themselves.

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God's two witnesses were chosen by Jesus.

God used them as his witnesses during his 7 years of judgment.

At the end of those 7 years Jesus took over and God stepped back.

It was Jesus who caused the two witnesses to prophesy for 3 and a half years. It was Jesus who caused then to write about the opening of the first 6 seals.

The two witnesses knew that 911 was a mossad false flag the day it happened. PJ still has not worked it out.

One of the two witnesses tasks was to reveal the truth about 911 from day one, which they did, on many sites.

This is how i know that PJ is a joke.
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Mystery Babylon is America.
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The beast of Revelation, 666, is the Federal reserve bank.

666 shall be the numbers of its name = 18 letters in its name.

The beast dollar is the world's reserve currency. For none shall deal without the numbers of the Beast.
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Mystery Babylon is America.
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This makes me want to cringe because it is so false, but, I will withhold my comments until "Jesus is the Way" answers.

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Hi neighbor! You are 100% correct. Zerubbabel represents the Kings, and Joshua represents the Priests. Together they represent Gods governmental authority. They will be among the world as pairs.
Jesus is the root from the stem of Jesse!
Now since they are a representation, I would say it does not preclude Elijah from being among them.
We still don't know who the two witnesses will be in Jerusalem, but they will be from among the 144,000.
I am glad you posted this truth!

Zec 6:12 Behold, the Man whose name is the BRANCH!
From His place He shall branch out.
And He shall build the temple of the Lord

So how could it be Jesus? Notice that "Man" is capitalized. They will be like Jesus was in the earth! The Kings are the sword of the Lord.
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Hi bigD111,

It is important to mention that the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3 will not be in physical Jerusalem. What is meant here is "spiritual" Jerusalem.

Thank you for joining.

RockyMtnLady
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Interesting! Please elaborate!
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Certainly, will do when I return. They will do their work in "Spiritual" Jerusalem. Similarly,the tribes of Israel mentioned in Rev 7 are spiritual tribes, those who will be sealed before the great tribulation. The day of circumcision for the Jews will be time period of the seventh seal and the seventh trumpet, whereas the 144000 belong in the time period of the sixth seal and the sixth trumpet.

May God Bless you!
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Hi RockyMtnLady, also looking forward to hearing more on this.

Take care
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The beast of Revelation, 666, is the Federal reserve bank.

666 shall be the numbers of its name = 18 letters in its name.

The beast dollar is the world's reserve currency. For none shall deal without the numbers of the Beast.
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Scripture tells us the 666 is the number of a "man." How can a bank be a man?

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The beast of Revelation, 666, is the Federal reserve bank.

666 shall be the numbers of its name = 18 letters in its name.

The beast dollar is the world's reserve currency. For none shall deal without the numbers of the Beast.
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Scripture tells us the 666 is the number of a "man." How can a bank be a man?

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You appear to have a comprehension problem.

Mans numbers, not the number of a man.

Do you believe that God uses the same numbers as humans.

That is why god said, man's number.

God only used those numbers so that we could understand.
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The beast of Revelation, 666, is the Federal reserve bank.

666 shall be the numbers of its name = 18 letters in its name.

The beast dollar is the world's reserve currency. For none shall deal without the numbers of the Beast.
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Scripture tells us the 666 is the number of a "man." How can a bank be a man?

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You appear to have a comprehension problem.

Mans numbers, not the number of a man.

Do you believe that God uses the same numbers as humans.

That is why god said, man's number.

God only used those numbers so that we could understand.
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Revelation 13:18
This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.

It is not the federal reserve bank, as you claim. It is also not Obama, or any other leader of today. THIS CALLS FOR WISDOM.

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Mystery Babylon is America.
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This makes me want to cringe because it is so false, but, I will withhold my comments until "Jesus is the Way" answers.

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In the end times, NOW, Mystery Babylon would be the hammer of the world, eg, the world's policeman and leading military.

This is only one of many clues. There is only one country that meet the above criteria.
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Mystery Babylon is America.
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This makes me want to cringe because it is so false, but, I will withhold my comments until "Jesus is the Way" answers.

RockyMtnLady
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In the end times, NOW, Mystery Babylon would be the hammer of the world, eg, the world's policeman and leading military.

This is only one of many clues. There is only one country that meet the above criteria.
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Incorrect, but I am waiting for "Jesus Christ is the Way."

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This shows you have little understanding of historical Israel. In order to understand, we must consult Dan 9:24-27:
"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

This is PJ's comment:

These seventy weeks are 70 x 7 prophetic years, which make up 490 years. The last week of the 70 weeks consists of 7 years in the midst of which Jesus was crucified. That happened in 33 AD, for the last week started in 29 and ended in 36 AD. The important point is that during the last week God did anoint the most Holy and thereby put an end to the Levitical priesthood (Heb 7:11), so with that priesthood ended the historical office of the Levites was no longer needed. This fact came visibly true to the Jews when their temple was destroyed, and there is no temple anywhere for any so-called Levites to do their work. Therefore, their Levitical work at the literal temple ended for ever!

You say that the true two witnesses will "both be Levites for they will stand before the Lord", which is mere stupidity of you to say, for the two cherubim that were one piece with the mercy-seat, as we can read in Exo 25:19, are the ones who symbolize the two witnesses in Rev 11:3 and not any Levites, who were not allowed to enter the Most Holy.
And make one cherub at the one end, and one cherub at the other end: of one piece with the mercy-seat shall ye make the cherubim on the two ends thereof.
Quoting: The Bible

The high priest was the only one allowed to enter the Most Holy once a year, symbolizing Jesus Christ.

When we also consider the biblical fact that the time period of the sixth angel, which is now, when the true two witnesses will do their work, is still the time period of the Gentiles, being the seventh thousand year period, while the Jews' time period will be the eighth thousand year period, that of the seventh angel, as foreshadowed by Leviticus 12:3, we see how stupid and ignorant you are of Scripture:
And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised."
--------------------------------------------------------
Hopefully, that information helps you get a clearer picture of historical Israel, which I myself am just beginning to grasp.

Therefore, through Scripture, we see that the Branch couldn't possibly be these priesthoods.

RockyMtnLady
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This is your thread so I will leave it at we will have to agree to disagree...have a good night


2wit2
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PJ's work has been proven false many times. I wiped the dust from my feet on that thread or sham of a thread that he seeks to take control of.

The two witnesses serve a flesh mission. It is for a prescribed 1260 days which is the last part of the tribulation period aka the "great tribulation". They prophesy and perform supernatural works. The key words are they or two. Everything is done in at least tandem. Look at how Christ sent the disciples out. He said where two or more gather, there I am also. Most of Christ' works and teachings are verified by at least two disciples. Paul even instructs the church to use two or three in prophecy and when angelic tongues are uttered, it should not be done unless there is also an interpreter.

From biblehub.com - the Aramaic bible - Revelation 11:4“ These are the two olive trees and the two menorahs, which stand before the Lord of the whole Earth.” The two witnesses have just been called olive trees and menorahs. Why? It must have meaning, and it does.

When the disciples asked Christ when the end would come at "Mount of Olives" he answered them it what is known as the Olivet Discourse. His first part deals with the destruction of the second temple in 70AD. He prophesied it, and it came to be. From his birth to the destruction of the second temple is 70 years. The typical life of an olive tree is 70 years.

We also know that Christ went into the earth for three days, was then resurrected and along with him saints came of the tombs and appeared to many. Where did they go? From Ephesians 4:There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
7But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
8Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? 10He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) 11And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

He brought them forward and deposited them in this time. How do we know this? If man is appointed to die once then it has to be this time because we know from scripture that when Israel becomes a nation again this generation will not pass. They walk among you today. Some have experienced parousia and some haven't. Christ said the first will be last and the last will be first. If the first fruits of the first resurrection went with him and were deposited in this time, it is consistent with what he said. He said he is the alpha and omega; so, what is in this last 70 years 1948 - 2018 should be reflection of what was in the first 70 years.

The days are shortened for the sake of the elect and flesh is saved. This is why they are referred to as lampstands or menorahs. The seven candles refer to the seven days of creation.

Peter says a day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day.If you look at the Jewish calendar, then it is in year 5774. That would be 5.774 days. The beast of the field and then God's last creation man was made on the 6th day. Tom Horn says the great pyramid is 5776 inches tall. egyptology is the antithesis of the Jewish effort. They were in captivity for 430 years. The gregorian calendar also marks this captivity in reflection. It went into effect in 1582 and 2012 marked 430 years. The cursed pyramid culture of the mayans who evoked the feathered serpent knew the time was up and eminent judgment would rain on mankind. That age has ended.

How do we know the works of egypt work against Israel? It is against Israel on both a spiritual and fleshly plane. If it isn't then why does God destroy egypt in the endtimes from Ezekiel 29:12? Man nor beast will inhabit it for 40 years.

Ezekiel is a very prophetic book. Look at chapter 37:11The Vision Explained
11Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. 12Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 14And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

Obviously, these people have died and will be brought back to the land of Israel. They were scattered. If they are resurrected, then they have to be part of the generation that will not pass because as said before man is appointed to die only once. How many scattered Jews wee exterminated in hitler's death camps? 6 million. How many Jews are in Israel today? From the wikipedia.org entry for Israel. The population of Israel, as defined by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics, was estimated in 2013 to be 8,051,200 people, of whom 6,045,900 are Jewish. There is alot more to this. Christ said he would come as a thief in the night. The works of God and particularly the book of Daniel have been shrouded in mystery until now.

Here's a couple of things about egyptology. From wikiperdia.org. [link to en.wikipedia.org] The year is 365 days. Five are left over and account for the walk of satan against God in the days of creation. The unholy pentagram symbolizes this. The effort is to form the 6th day of the creation of man and curse flesh totally. The elect are the reason that day is shortened. The egyptian new year also falls on this ominous day in conjunction with the gregorian calendar. [link to en.wikipedia.org] It is September 11 Imagine that.

I know Waterman has taken alot of grief, but he's right. The two witnesses come from the marriage of Judah and Ephraim. Melchezidek is the high priest. The works of egyptian masonry in dark ritual has made every effort to stop this. I can prove it. They know Melchezidek is important. The longest river in eurpoe is the Danube. It is word formed from "dan" and "anubis". anubis is the egyptian false doghead god of the dead. "book of the dead" is 666 in Jewish gematria. The river starts in the black forest of "deutschland" (also 666 in Jewish gematria) and ends in the black sea. The city of Melk (the hacked name of Melchezidek) is on the danube and home the the abbey of melk. The center of this town is exactly 666 nautical miles from the center of a major satanic center in europe (the isle of wight). The birthplace of hitler in branau im inn, austria is 666 statute miles from the center of the isle of wight. Now add the fact that the kaaba stone in mecca, saudi arabia is 666 nautical miles from the birthplace of Christ and you see how their dark design is unravelling and being exposed. The Normandy Invasion is completely cryptic and it is central to understanding the core of the fight between Christ and the antichrist. Everything about that event is ritualistic. The naming of the beaches tell you where this is going. The Union Jack or Union of Jacob is the restoration of the Israel at its core with the 144,000 representing the 12 tribes of Israel in seed. They follow the good shepherd forever, and dwell closest to God. The cross breaks the x on that flag for good reason.
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First of all, PJ showed you false, not the other way around. Don't try to convince good, honest people here of the opposite. They can seek for themselves.

No one will testify during great tribulation. Additionally, The Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3 will not testify about priesthoods, rather they bring with them the everlasting gospel, which will save all inhabitants on earth.

What you say about 666 is just false and of your imagination. I will prove it once we get onto that subject.

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Been following your thread. :-) Would you be so kind as to clarify the meaning of your use of testifying you used here and what you believe the job of the 144,000 is during this specific time period.
“The most important things are the hardest to say. They are the things you get ashamed of, because words diminish them -- words shrink things that seemed limitless when they were in your head to no more than living size when they're brought out. But it's more than that, isn't it? The most important things lie too close to wherever your secret heart is buried, like landmarks to a treasure your enemies would love to steal away. And you may make revelations that cost you dearly only to have people look at you in a funny way, not understanding what you've said at all, or why you thought it was so important that you almost cried while you were saying it. That's the worst, I think. When the secret stays locked within not for want of a tellar but for want of an understanding ear.” Stephen King
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The beast of Revelation, 666, is the Federal reserve bank.

666 shall be the numbers of its name = 18 letters in its name.

The beast dollar is the world's reserve currency. For none shall deal without the numbers of the Beast.
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Scripture tells us the 666 is the number of a "man." How can a bank be a man?

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You appear to have a comprehension problem.

Mans numbers, not the number of a man.

Do you believe that God uses the same numbers as humans.

That is why god said, man's number.

God only used those numbers so that we could understand.
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Revelation 13:18
This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.

It is not the federal reserve bank, as you claim. It is also not Obama, or any other leader of today. THIS CALLS FOR WISDOM.

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Revelation 13:18 Or is humanity’s number eg man's numbers.

Obama works for the beast, he is an antichrist, but not THE antichrist.
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The two witnesses were not sent to preach. It is not one of their tasks.

Elijah is with the two witnesses. They are both Gentiles.
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This is your thread so I will leave it at we will have to agree to disagree...have a good night


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PJ's work has been proven false many times. I wiped the dust from my feet on that thread or sham of a thread that he seeks to take control of.

The two witnesses serve a flesh mission. It is for a prescribed 1260 days which is the last part of the tribulation period aka the "great tribulation". They prophesy and perform supernatural works. The key words are they or two. Everything is done in at least tandem. Look at how Christ sent the disciples out. He said where two or more gather, there I am also. Most of Christ' works and teachings are verified by at least two disciples. Paul even instructs the church to use two or three in prophecy and when angelic tongues are uttered, it should not be done unless there is also an interpreter.

From biblehub.com - the Aramaic bible - Revelation 11:4“ These are the two olive trees and the two menorahs, which stand before the Lord of the whole Earth.” The two witnesses have just been called olive trees and menorahs. Why? It must have meaning, and it does.

When the disciples asked Christ when the end would come at "Mount of Olives" he answered them it what is known as the Olivet Discourse. His first part deals with the destruction of the second temple in 70AD. He prophesied it, and it came to be. From his birth to the destruction of the second temple is 70 years. The typical life of an olive tree is 70 years.

We also know that Christ went into the earth for three days, was then resurrected and along with him saints came of the tombs and appeared to many. Where did they go? From Ephesians 4:There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
7But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
8Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? 10He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) 11And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

He brought them forward and deposited them in this time. How do we know this? If man is appointed to die once then it has to be this time because we know from scripture that when Israel becomes a nation again this generation will not pass. They walk among you today. Some have experienced parousia and some haven't. Christ said the first will be last and the last will be first. If the first fruits of the first resurrection went with him and were deposited in this time, it is consistent with what he said. He said he is the alpha and omega; so, what is in this last 70 years 1948 - 2018 should be reflection of what was in the first 70 years.

The days are shortened for the sake of the elect and flesh is saved. This is why they are referred to as lampstands or menorahs. The seven candles refer to the seven days of creation.

Peter says a day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day.If you look at the Jewish calendar, then it is in year 5774. That would be 5.774 days. The beast of the field and then God's last creation man was made on the 6th day. Tom Horn says the great pyramid is 5776 inches tall. egyptology is the antithesis of the Jewish effort. They were in captivity for 430 years. The gregorian calendar also marks this captivity in reflection. It went into effect in 1582 and 2012 marked 430 years. The cursed pyramid culture of the mayans who evoked the feathered serpent knew the time was up and eminent judgment would rain on mankind. That age has ended.

How do we know the works of egypt work against Israel? It is against Israel on both a spiritual and fleshly plane. If it isn't then why does God destroy egypt in the endtimes from Ezekiel 29:12? Man nor beast will inhabit it for 40 years.

Ezekiel is a very prophetic book. Look at chapter 37:11The Vision Explained
11Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. 12Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 14And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

Obviously, these people have died and will be brought back to the land of Israel. They were scattered. If they are resurrected, then they have to be part of the generation that will not pass because as said before man is appointed to die only once. How many scattered Jews wee exterminated in hitler's death camps? 6 million. How many Jews are in Israel today? From the wikipedia.org entry for Israel. The population of Israel, as defined by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics, was estimated in 2013 to be 8,051,200 people, of whom 6,045,900 are Jewish. There is alot more to this. Christ said he would come as a thief in the night. The works of God and particularly the book of Daniel have been shrouded in mystery until now.

Here's a couple of things about egyptology. From wikiperdia.org. [link to en.wikipedia.org] The year is 365 days. Five are left over and account for the walk of satan against God in the days of creation. The unholy pentagram symbolizes this. The effort is to form the 6th day of the creation of man and curse flesh totally. The elect are the reason that day is shortened. The egyptian new year also falls on this ominous day in conjunction with the gregorian calendar. [link to en.wikipedia.org] It is September 11 Imagine that.

I know Waterman has taken alot of grief, but he's right. The two witnesses come from the marriage of Judah and Ephraim. Melchezidek is the high priest. The works of egyptian masonry in dark ritual has made every effort to stop this. I can prove it. They know Melchezidek is important. The longest river in eurpoe is the Danube. It is word formed from "dan" and "anubis". anubis is the egyptian false doghead god of the dead. "book of the dead" is 666 in Jewish gematria. The river starts in the black forest of "deutschland" (also 666 in Jewish gematria) and ends in the black sea. The city of Melk (the hacked name of Melchezidek) is on the danube and home the the abbey of melk. The center of this town is exactly 666 nautical miles from the center of a major satanic center in europe (the isle of wight). The birthplace of hitler in branau im inn, austria is 666 statute miles from the center of the isle of wight. Now add the fact that the kaaba stone in mecca, saudi arabia is 666 nautical miles from the birthplace of Christ and you see how their dark design is unravelling and being exposed. The Normandy Invasion is completely cryptic and it is central to understanding the core of the fight between Christ and the antichrist. Everything about that event is ritualistic. The naming of the beaches tell you where this is going. The Union Jack or Union of Jacob is the restoration of the Israel at its core with the 144,000 representing the 12 tribes of Israel in seed. They follow the good shepherd forever, and dwell closest to God. The cross breaks the x on that flag for good reason.
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First of all, PJ showed you false, not the other way around. Don't try to convince good, honest people here of the opposite. They can seek for themselves.

No one will testify during great tribulation. Additionally, The Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3 will not testify about priesthoods, rather they bring with them the everlasting gospel, which will save all inhabitants on earth.

What you say about 666 is just false and of your imagination. I will prove it once we get onto that subject.

RockyMtnLady
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Been following your thread. :-) Would you be so kind as to clarify the meaning of your use of testifying you used here and what you believe the job of the 144,000 is during this specific time period.
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Hi ByFaithAlone (Love your nick, btw),

I would be happy to clarify. Currently, we are in the time period of the sixth angel of Revelation, when the sealing of the 144,000 is taking place. After the sealing is complete, the 144,000 (first fruits), led by the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11.3 will proclaim the everlasting gospel (the incorruptible gospel) to the inhabitants of the earth. From their testimonies, the multitude will be saved.

You see, due to the falling away, the gospel has been corrupted by false teachers of this day, who take honest people's money. Scripture clearly states this: "What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us." (1 Corinthians 2:12)

Therefore, the "BRANCH" and the Two Witnesses of Rev. 11.3 will not charge anything for their message. It will be freely given, as God has given.

There is a lot here and I hope to get it all out in time.

May God Bless you, ByFaithAlone!

RockyMtnLady
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At the end of God's 7 years of judgment, in December 1999, God gave the two witnesses the authority to call upon the 7 Spirits.

It was indeed fortunate for the Earth that Jesus chose the two witnesses, or the Earth would be dust.
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The two witnesses were not sent to preach. It is not one of their tasks.

Elijah is with the two witnesses. They are both Gentiles.
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You are just off the mark in every direction you go. Why don't you pray for insight, consult Scripture and listen for awhile.

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I would be happy to clarify. Currently, we are in the time period of the sixth angel of Revelation,


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Wrong again. The sixth Seal was opened, we await Jesus to open the 7th and final Seal. Only then will God send his 7 Angels. The 7 Spirits are already here.
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I would be happy to clarify. Currently, we are in the time period of the sixth angel of Revelation,


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Wrong again. The sixth Seal was opened, we await Jesus to open the 7th and final Seal. Only then will God send his 7 Angels. The 7 Spirits are already here.
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We are currently in the sixth seal and sixth angel.

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