Two Witnesses of Revelation 11.3 and the Branch

I read through all your posts and Scripture posted. What you fail to do correctly is "divide the word". Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.(2 Timothy 2:15)

Also, it is frightenly clear that the mystery of the dispensations has not been revealed to you...

The Bible's dispensations

Before continuing with the baptism doctrine proper, I would point out that the first of the Bible's three dispensations is the covenant and dispensation of the Old Testament, with its temple ordinances and sacrifices. This dispensation came to an end with the coming of Jesus and His work of atonement. The second dispensation is the time of the apostolic church in the New Covenant, which contained baptism with water, the Lord's supper (Eucharist), and speaking in tongues. All this, however, disappeared in the great apostasy (falling-away), together with the covenant which was broken. (Isa. 24:5) This is explained in Zech. 11, especially verse 14. He shows us that when the first staff, BEAUTY (Jesus), was cut asunder (verse 10), thereby breaking the covenant of circumcision, there began a new covenant and time. Compare Zech. 11:12-13 with Matt. 26:15. The era that was then begun we call the New Testament. The prophet shows us, moreover, that when the New Testament period was in the midst of its course (see Hab. 3:2), the staff BANDS (the man child), was also cut asunder. This brought yet another change, like the change that occurred with the death and atonement of Jesus. Scripture says that at the cutting asunder of this second staff, Bands, the brotherhood between Juhah and Israel was broken. Every one knows that in the era of the New Testament such a brotherhood between Israel and Judah no longer exist in the historical sense. Israel was led away into captivity by Assyria, nevermore to return to their homeland. This emnity, therefore, has nothing whatsoever to do with the Israel of today and the things that happen there. A further confirmation that this is indeed the case can be seen from Rev. 12:5-12, which tells of a war in heaven. No one can be under the impression that this war occurs in God's invisible heaven, for Jesus said the following when on earth (Joh. 12:31): "Now shall the prince of this world be cast out." No, this war is fought here in this world with the word of God as the battleground. This is confirmed by Psalm 149:6-9, Matt. 19:28 and 2 Thes. 2:7-8. Be therefore persuaded that the hidden meaning of these aforementioned scriptures can best be understood in the context of the spiritual night which descended on earth when the Beast or Antichrist, with its falsehood and religious fanaticism, destroyed the saints together with God's New Testament church and congregation; all of which was foretold by Jesus, the apostles, and the prophets.


The everlasting gospel and God's third dispensation

If God had left man in this miserable situation, then we would have been without hope. But Scripture tells us that God in His great faithfulness and mercy sends us a witness, who has an everlasting gospel to preach to all those living on earth, to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, saying with a loud voice: "Fear God, and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment is come, and worship Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters!" (Rev. 14:6-7). This message ushers in the third and last dispensation, together with the war in heaven. Just think, this everlasting gospel should be preached to all peoples as if the world previous to this had no gospel at all! Is this not a clear condemnation of all that today goes under the name of the gospel? Yes, indeed it is! We see now that between the New Testament's two dispensations lies the dark night of apostasy, and seeing this we realize why a third dispensation is necessary. You are probably once again asking what all this has to do with baptism. Dear reader, it is precisely in the light of the three dispensations that we can best understand the mystery and true significance of baptism.

For, you show little understanding of Scripture, and I mean that with all respect. From Scripture, we are all aware that the Apostolic church has fallen away so that is no mystery.

Pray for more truth to be revealed to your heart.
RockyMtnLady

"the great deception; competition"

we are running out
of space and food for others
with resources reserved by the dragon
in a game of need created by greed.

"spoiled by debt driven slavery"

without harvest
we wither and die;
profits measured out in wages,
workers cheated of equal share.

~H

"the great deception; competition"

we are running out
of space and food for others
with resources reserved by the dragon
in a game of need created by greed.

I read through all your posts and Scripture posted. What you fail to do correctly is "divide the word". Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.(2 Timothy 2:15)

Also, it is frightenly clear that the mystery of the dispensations has not been revealed to you...

The Bible's dispensations

Before continuing with the baptism doctrine proper, I would point out that the first of the Bible's three dispensations is the covenant and dispensation of the Old Testament, with its temple ordinances and sacrifices. This dispensation came to an end with the coming of Jesus and His work of atonement. The second dispensation is the time of the apostolic church in the New Covenant, which contained baptism with water, the Lord's supper (Eucharist), and speaking in tongues. All this, however, disappeared in the great apostasy (falling-away), together with the covenant which was broken. (Isa. 24:5) This is explained in Zech. 11, especially verse 14. He shows us that when the first staff, BEAUTY (Jesus), was cut asunder (verse 10), thereby breaking the covenant of circumcision, there began a new covenant and time. Compare Zech. 11:12-13 with Matt. 26:15. The era that was then begun we call the New Testament. The prophet shows us, moreover, that when the New Testament period was in the midst of its course (see Hab. 3:2), the staff BANDS (the man child), was also cut asunder. This brought yet another change, like the change that occurred with the death and atonement of Jesus. Scripture says that at the cutting asunder of this second staff, Bands, the brotherhood between Juhah and Israel was broken. Every one knows that in the era of the New Testament such a brotherhood between Israel and Judah no longer exist in the historical sense. Israel was led away into captivity by Assyria, nevermore to return to their homeland. This emnity, therefore, has nothing whatsoever to do with the Israel of today and the things that happen there. A further confirmation that this is indeed the case can be seen from Rev. 12:5-12, which tells of a war in heaven. No one can be under the impression that this war occurs in God's invisible heaven, for Jesus said the following when on earth (Joh. 12:31): "Now shall the prince of this world be cast out." No, this war is fought here in this world with the word of God as the battleground. This is confirmed by Psalm 149:6-9, Matt. 19:28 and 2 Thes. 2:7-8. Be therefore persuaded that the hidden meaning of these aforementioned scriptures can best be understood in the context of the spiritual night which descended on earth when the Beast or Antichrist, with its falsehood and religious fanaticism, destroyed the saints together with God's New Testament church and congregation; all of which was foretold by Jesus, the apostles, and the prophets.


The everlasting gospel and God's third dispensation

If God had left man in this miserable situation, then we would have been without hope. But Scripture tells us that God in His great faithfulness and mercy sends us a witness, who has an everlasting gospel to preach to all those living on earth, to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, saying with a loud voice: "Fear God, and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment is come, and worship Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters!" (Rev. 14:6-7). This message ushers in the third and last dispensation, together with the war in heaven. Just think, this everlasting gospel should be preached to all peoples as if the world previous to this had no gospel at all! Is this not a clear condemnation of all that today goes under the name of the gospel? Yes, indeed it is! We see now that between the New Testament's two dispensations lies the dark night of apostasy, and seeing this we realize why a third dispensation is necessary. You are probably once again asking what all this has to do with baptism. Dear reader, it is precisely in the light of the three dispensations that we can best understand the mystery and true significance of baptism.

For, you show little understanding of Scripture, and I mean that with all respect. From Scripture, we are all aware that the Apostolic church has fallen away so that is no mystery.

Pray for more truth to be revealed to your heart.

RockyMtnLady

Very well put but whats the solution?

I would be curious to see what Iceland has to say, but I believe the only solution is to have faith in the everlasting gospel and obedience to it, thus to be seen blameless so that we may sing the new song.

This taken from the everlasting gospel, hits home for me.

The answer, I believe, is given by Jesus Himself when He says that there shall be REGENERATION (baptism through the Holy Spirit) when He, the Son of Man, shall sit in the throne of His glory. (Matt. 19:28) This period is characterized as "a rest to the people of God" in Hebrews 4:8-9.

The baptism of John, also called "baptism unto repentance" (Acts 19:4), and the baptism of the Lord Jesus, which we can call "baptism of renewal", were together what is referred to in Titus 3:5 as "the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost". This two forms of baptism are thus tokens of the same kind as "the song of Moses" and "the song of the Lamb" in Rev. 15:3. The baptism of John and the song of Moses, the servant of God, both symbolize God's holy law, which calls us to account for all our sins, for the law shall judge all of us in the flesh like men (1 Pet. 4:6). The baptism of the Lord Jesus and the song of the Lamb symbolize God's gospel, which gives us the Son and forgiveness for all our sins and faults.
In the New Covenant (second dispensation) it was the baptism with water that was this laver. in the third and last dispensation there are no such literal examples, since it is a purely spiritual dispensation, the laver in this dispensation being the song of Moses, the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb. It is said that the sea is as it were of glass, like crystal, and that it stands before the throne. This means that the water in this sea of glass is God's Holy Spirit, with the glass being the word of God. The Spirit and the Word together are the mystery of regeneration and the reality to which the figures of both the previous dispensations point. That this is so, is confirmed by the apostle Paul in his explanation of the mystery of regeneration in his epistle to the Romans, especially in chapter 7.

RockyMtnLady

Exodus

12:14

And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and he shall keep it a feast to Yahweh throughout your generations; ye shall keep it as a feast by an ordinance for ever.

How long? Not until the NT but for ever.

12:15

Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day he shall put away leaven out of your houses; for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.

12:17

And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread, for in this selfsame day have I brought your armies out of the land of Egypt, therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations by an ordinance for ever.

How long? For ever O rebellious House of Israel

13:9

And it shall be a sign unto the upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that Yahweh's law may be in thy mouth, for with a strong hand Yahweh brought thee out of Egypt.
13:10
Thou shalt therefore keep this ordinance in his season from year to year.

What season is that harlots? Yahweh's seasons.

Again read Isaiah 24 harlots and realize the transgressions from His laws and His ordinances is why the Earth is made asunder!

However, the stiff necked Christians cannot swallow the fact their religion is utterly false and their scriptures are utterly corrupt.

The covenant is broken. Do you not understand that?!?

The new covenant is also broken. Everlasting covenant = everlasting gospel.

RockyMtnLady

Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. (Matthew 22:29)

RockyMtnLady

Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. (Matthew 22:29)

RockyMtnLady

What are you thinking?

Anyone can post that to anyone and presume their own superiority.

Everyone can post that t6o everyone and presume their own superiority.


As a rule, I have found that every single poster that ends every single post with their own name, while every single post is already posted in their own name, is always much too full of themselves and never yields on anything because they obviously can never be wrong about anything...

Pardon me, but I am not exalting myself, rather exalting truth.

I am sorry if you see it any other way.

RockyMtnLady

BTW, I have found that people who are "Anonymous Cowards" are just that. Cowards.

RockyMtnLady

Again, I did not say you, because it applies to many, but again, you did say you. You are about you because you are superior to any that would disagree with you.

Not true. I welcome any and all rebuking from my brothers and sisters.

RockyMtnLady

You may need to rethink your approach when you come in and drop a shit bomb without adding any value.

You hear none of it.

None of it gets through to you.