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Electric Universe and Electric Comet folks - ISON predictions wanted.

 
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The fairy tale physics is useless. The universe is electric, and every single observation confirms it. All four of the forces are electric and there is not a single element of astrophysics that is not integrated with or dependent on electric interactions. Compare my theory of gravity and the four forces I postulated with lamestream theory!

According to Eisnteinian religion, gravity is caused by distortions in 'space time' caused by matter , and this is what holds the universe together.Bends' in nothing causes other matter to 'roll down into' and be captured by this 'dimple' in 'spacetime'.

There are so many impossibilities and inconsistencies only a dumbed down moron could believe such a fairy tale. I suppose it separates the idiots from te independent thinkers effectively if nothing else.
NO ONE, that claims to believe this claptrap understands it.

If gravity was caused by a distortion in space,cruise
matter would follow the curve of that distortion when 'rolled in to" other matter, instead of being drawn directly into it in a perfectly linear path.
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461


Oh what a hypocrite you are, you are screaming gang stalking on your threads and shouting criminal activity yet you come to a thread where these supposed '''stalkers''' are posting and try to stir the shit pot. You are a lunatic.
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The reaction is basically as you've stated. The ionized protons, helium nuclei, etc. strip electrons from the comet's gases and as they drop to the lower energy state they emit x-rays and UV. It is seen all the time in spectroscopy.

R.
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BTW The theorised heavy ions involved are not protons or alpha particles as you said but highly ionised heavy ions such as C+5, C+6, N+7, O+7, and O+8. The de-excitation spectra of these ions match previous observations from comets.

Not a big deal just a point of clarification.
 Quoting: Reality420


Yes, thank you.
(That was part of the etc., but I hadn't reviewed the spectra to see the energy levels involved.)


R.
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Sorry, but no! The mentioned heavy ions by the poster are a nonsense: carbon atom without 5 or 6 electrons?, monoatomic oxygen with no electrons (so an oxygen nucleus) ?

The principal free radical species produced in the coma (by photolysis and/or photoionization of gaseous precursors, chemical reactions among coma gases, and destruction of refractory organics on grains) are O(1D), CN, C2, C3, OH, NH, and NH2. (Mumma and Charney 2011, p. 478)

Reference:

Mumma, M.J. and Charnley, S.B.(2011). "The Chemical Composition of Comets—Emerging Taxonomies and Natal Heritage" Annu. Rev. Astron. Astrophys. 49: 471–524
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Re: Electric Universe and Electric Comet folks - ISON predictions wanted.
The fairy tale physics is useless. The universe is electric, and every single observation confirms it. All four of the forces are electric and there is not a single element of astrophysics that is not integrated with or dependent on electric interactions. Compare my theory of gravity and the four forces I postulated with lamestream theory!

According to Eisnteinian religion, gravity is caused by distortions in 'space time' caused by matter , and this is what holds the universe together.Bends' in nothing causes other matter to 'roll down into' and be captured by this 'dimple' in 'spacetime'.

There are so many impossibilities and inconsistencies only a dumbed down moron could believe such a fairy tale. I suppose it separates the idiots from te independent thinkers effectively if nothing else.
NO ONE, that claims to believe this claptrap understands it.

If gravity was caused by a distortion in space,cruise
matter would follow the curve of that distortion when 'rolled in to" other matter, instead of being drawn directly into it in a perfectly linear path.
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461
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The fairy tale physics is useless. The universe is electric, and every single observation confirms it. All four of the forces are electric and there is not a single element of astrophysics that is not integrated with or dependent on electric interactions. Compare my theory of gravity and the four forces I postulated with lamestream theory!

According to Eisnteinian religion, gravity is caused by distortions in 'space time' caused by matter , and this is what holds the universe together.Bends' in nothing causes other matter to 'roll down into' and be captured by this 'dimple' in 'spacetime'.

There are so many impossibilities and inconsistencies only a dumbed down moron could believe such a fairy tale. I suppose it separates the idiots from te independent thinkers effectively if nothing else.
NO ONE, that claims to believe this claptrap understands it.

If gravity was caused by a distortion in space,cruise
matter would follow the curve of that distortion when 'rolled in to" other matter, instead of being drawn directly into it in a perfectly linear path.
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461


Oh what a hypocrite you are, you are screaming gang stalking on your threads and shouting criminal activity yet you come to a thread where these supposed '''stalkers''' are posting and try to stir the shit pot. You are a lunatic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49886487


That wasn't a response to te post, you didn't even try because you CANNOT. Why not? Is it because you don't know jack shit about psychics?

Who are you? Where is your flag indicating what country you are from? Everyone else has them, why don't YOU?

cruise
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BTW The theorised heavy ions involved are not protons or alpha particles as you said but highly ionised heavy ions such as C+5, C+6, N+7, O+7, and O+8. The de-excitation spectra of these ions match previous observations from comets.

Not a big deal just a point of clarification.
 Quoting: Reality420


Yes, thank you.
(That was part of the etc., but I hadn't reviewed the spectra to see the energy levels involved.)


R.
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Sorry, but no! The mentioned heavy ions by the poster are a nonsense: carbon atom without 5 or 6 electrons?, monoatomic oxygen with no electrons (so an oxygen nucleus) ?

The principal free radical species produced in the coma (by photolysis and/or photoionization of gaseous precursors, chemical reactions among coma gases, and destruction of refractory organics on grains) are O(1D), CN, C2, C3, OH, NH, and NH2. (Mumma and Charney 2011, p. 478)

Reference:

Mumma, M.J. and Charnley, S.B.(2011). "The Chemical Composition of Comets—Emerging Taxonomies and Natal Heritage" Annu. Rev. Astron. Astrophys. 49: 471–524
 Quoting: Reality420


These are super hot solar wind ions, yes C,O,N are rare in the sun but present. The cool ionized coma gas becomes the electron donor.
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Re: Electric Universe and Electric Comet folks - ISON predictions wanted.
The fairy tale physics is useless. The universe is electric, and every single observation confirms it. All four of the forces are electric and there is not a single element of astrophysics that is not integrated with or dependent on electric interactions. Compare my theory of gravity and the four forces I postulated with lamestream theory!

According to Eisnteinian religion, gravity is caused by distortions in 'space time' caused by matter , and this is what holds the universe together.Bends' in nothing causes other matter to 'roll down into' and be captured by this 'dimple' in 'spacetime'.

There are so many impossibilities and inconsistencies only a dumbed down moron could believe such a fairy tale. I suppose it separates the idiots from te independent thinkers effectively if nothing else.
NO ONE, that claims to believe this claptrap understands it.

If gravity was caused by a distortion in space,cruise
matter would follow the curve of that distortion when 'rolled in to" other matter, instead of being drawn directly into it in a perfectly linear path.
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461


Oh what a hypocrite you are, you are screaming gang stalking on your threads and shouting criminal activity yet you come to a thread where these supposed '''stalkers''' are posting and try to stir the shit pot. You are a lunatic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49886487


That wasn't a response to te post, you didn't even try because you CANNOT. Why not? Is it because you don't know jack shit about psychics?

Who are you? Where is your flag indicating what country you are from? Everyone else has them, why don't YOU?

cruise
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461


Hypocritical again, you have moaned and moaned about being banned from here, nearly every day you have a different IP address, you even posted under a different ID as your lawyer (lolroflpmsl). Don't you worry about my lack of flag, keep your proxyprovider happy.
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Re: Electric Universe and Electric Comet folks - ISON predictions wanted.
Why are all of the Tremaine proponents ignorant hatchet men and hacks and loudmouthed idiots who engage primarily in organized personal attacks utilizing primarily the bandwagon fallacy of being on te side of 'real scientists'
and yet never address any of the physics itself and are quite evidently incapable of doing so?

Why does it seem like the only ones who actually understand physics are alternative electric universe proponets?
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Re: Electric Universe and Electric Comet folks - ISON predictions wanted.
BTW The theorised heavy ions involved are not protons or alpha particles as you said but highly ionised heavy ions such as C+5, C+6, N+7, O+7, and O+8. The de-excitation spectra of these ions match previous observations from comets.

Not a big deal just a point of clarification.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5569960


Yes, thank you.
(That was part of the etc., but I hadn't reviewed the spectra to see the energy levels involved.)


R.
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Sorry, but no! The mentioned heavy ions by the poster are a nonsense: carbon atom without 5 or 6 electrons?, monoatomic oxygen with no electrons (so an oxygen nucleus) ?

The principal free radical species produced in the coma (by photolysis and/or photoionization of gaseous precursors, chemical reactions among coma gases, and destruction of refractory organics on grains) are O(1D), CN, C2, C3, OH, NH, and NH2. (Mumma and Charney 2011, p. 478)

Reference:

Mumma, M.J. and Charnley, S.B.(2011). "The Chemical Composition of Comets—Emerging Taxonomies and Natal Heritage" Annu. Rev. Astron. Astrophys. 49: 471–524
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49846547


Another rationalist. Will wonders never cease?

You are correct, for comets.

He is talking about the particles in the solar wind.
They are virtually completely thermally ionized bare nuclei so his claim that C+5, C+6, N+7, O+7, and O+8 are the species involved is not bizarre.
I will have to read in more depth to determine if he is 100% accurate, but I suspect he is.

My quick research on this phenomena indicated that it was the filling of the K(1s) and L(2s) shells/orbitals which produce the x-rays which makes sense to give the required energies.

That will be for another thread on the deconstruction of the "theories".

Have fun.


R.

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Re: Electric Universe and Electric Comet folks - ISON predictions wanted.
The fairy tale physics is useless. The universe is electric, and every single observation confirms it. All four of the forces are electric and there is not a single element of astrophysics that is not integrated with or dependent on electric interactions. Compare my theory of gravity and the four forces I postulated with lamestream theory!

According to Eisnteinian religion, gravity is caused by distortions in 'space time' caused by matter , and this is what holds the universe together.Bends' in nothing causes other matter to 'roll down into' and be captured by this 'dimple' in 'spacetime'.

There are so many impossibilities and inconsistencies only a dumbed down moron could believe such a fairy tale. I suppose it separates the idiots from te independent thinkers effectively if nothing else.
NO ONE, that claims to believe this claptrap understands it.

If gravity was caused by a distortion in space,cruise
matter would follow the curve of that distortion when 'rolled in to" other matter, instead of being drawn directly into it in a perfectly linear path.
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461


Oh what a hypocrite you are, you are screaming gang stalking on your threads and shouting criminal activity yet you come to a thread where these supposed '''stalkers''' are posting and try to stir the shit pot. You are a lunatic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49886487


That wasn't a response to te post, you didn't even try because you CANNOT. Why not? Is it because you don't know jack shit about psychics?

Who are you? Where is your flag indicating what country you are from? Everyone else has them, why don't YOU?

cruise
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461


Yeah! Your post is also an evidence indicating that "you don't know jack shit about physics" The matter, when curves the space-time, follows the path between two points that has the shortest distance, a geodesic (the "straight line" in a surface).

slaphim
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The fairy tale physics is useless. The universe is electric, and every single observation confirms it. All four of the forces are electric and there is not a single element of astrophysics that is not integrated with or dependent on electric interactions. Compare my theory of gravity and the four forces I postulated with lamestream theory!

According to Eisnteinian religion, gravity is caused by distortions in 'space time' caused by matter , and this is what holds the universe together.Bends' in nothing causes other matter to 'roll down into' and be captured by this 'dimple' in 'spacetime'.

There are so many impossibilities and inconsistencies only a dumbed down moron could believe such a fairy tale. I suppose it separates the idiots from te independent thinkers effectively if nothing else.
NO ONE, that claims to believe this claptrap understands it.

If gravity was caused by a distortion in space,cruise
matter would follow the curve of that distortion when 'rolled in to" other matter, instead of being drawn directly into it in a perfectly linear path.
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461


Oh what a hypocrite you are, you are screaming gang stalking on your threads and shouting criminal activity yet you come to a thread where these supposed '''stalkers''' are posting and try to stir the shit pot. You are a lunatic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49886487


I will ask the OP if I might repost the Big List of what IDW/A.A Knows here, though it isn't strictly on topic.

I await the OP's convenience.
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Re: Electric Universe and Electric Comet folks - ISON predictions wanted.
The fairy tale physics is useless. The universe is electric, and every single observation confirms it. All four of the forces are electric and there is not a single element of astrophysics that is not integrated with or dependent on electric interactions. Compare my theory of gravity and the four forces I postulated with lamestream theory!

According to Eisnteinian religion, gravity is caused by distortions in 'space time' caused by matter , and this is what holds the universe together.Bends' in nothing causes other matter to 'roll down into' and be captured by this 'dimple' in 'spacetime'.

There are so many impossibilities and inconsistencies only a dumbed down moron could believe such a fairy tale. I suppose it separates the idiots from te independent thinkers effectively if nothing else.
NO ONE, that claims to believe this claptrap understands it.

If gravity was caused by a distortion in space,cruise
matter would follow the curve of that distortion when 'rolled in to" other matter, instead of being drawn directly into it in a perfectly linear path.
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461


Oh what a hypocrite you are, you are screaming gang stalking on your threads and shouting criminal activity yet you come to a thread where these supposed '''stalkers''' are posting and try to stir the shit pot. You are a lunatic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49886487


That wasn't a response to te post, you didn't even try because you CANNOT. Why not? Is it because you don't know jack shit about psychics?

Who are you? Where is your flag indicating what country you are from? Everyone else has them, why don't YOU?

cruise
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461


Yeah! Your post is also an evidence indicating that "you don't know jack shit about physics" The matter, when curves the space-time, follows the path between two points that has the shortest distance, a geodesic (the "straight line" in a surface).

slaphim
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49846547


That is just IDW being The Incredible DimWit.
Pay no attention. He is even crazier than McCanney.

Have fun.


R.
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Re: Electric Universe and Electric Comet folks - ISON predictions wanted.
Why are all of the Tremaine proponents ignorant hatchet men and hacks and loudmouthed idiots who engage primarily in organized personal attacks utilizing primarily the bandwagon fallacy of being on te side of 'real scientists'
and yet never address any of the physics itself and are quite evidently incapable of doing so?

Why does it seem like the only ones who actually understand physics are alternative electric universe proponets?
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461


Why do you ask rhetorical questions so obviously colored by your own lenses?
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Re: Electric Universe and Electric Comet folks - ISON predictions wanted.
I will ask the OP if I might repost the Big List of what IDW/A.A Knows here, though it isn't strictly on topic.

I await the OP's convenience.
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If you would wait until the next page so it will be at the top.
(I also don't want IDW setting up shop on this thread. The occasional sniping is fine, but his manic tendency to spam a thread with post after post of nothing but cut/paste of his previous ranting is annoying.)

I don't know if the British rationalist will even understand what it is all about. I'm a little leery since someone arriving on GLP with no knowledge of EU/EC seems very strange.
It is not a website that rationalists who aren't familiar with some of the more popular woo would likely encounter by chance. He/she seems rational and knowledgeable so if they aren't a stealth kOOk, I hope they stick around and takes a nick for easier identification.

The Spanish rationalist is someone who I think I've seen commenting before, a physics graduate student I think. Without a nick I can't be sure.
I hope he/she also sticks around and takes a nick for easier identification.

We've had some good ones... Duncan, Idol, DrP, Commutator, etc.
Hell, all the debunkers a good.

Have fun.


R.
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Re: Electric Universe and Electric Comet folks - ISON predictions wanted.
The fairy tale physics is useless. The universe is electric, and every single observation confirms it. All four of the forces are electric and there is not a single element of astrophysics that is not integrated with or dependent on electric interactions. Compare my theory of gravity and the four forces I postulated with lamestream theory!

According to Eisnteinian religion, gravity is caused by distortions in 'space time' caused by matter , and this is what holds the universe together.Bends' in nothing causes other matter to 'roll down into' and be captured by this 'dimple' in 'spacetime'.

There are so many impossibilities and inconsistencies only a dumbed down moron could believe such a fairy tale. I suppose it separates the idiots from te independent thinkers effectively if nothing else.
NO ONE, that claims to believe this claptrap understands it.

If gravity was caused by a distortion in space,cruise
matter would follow the curve of that distortion when 'rolled in to" other matter, instead of being drawn directly into it in a perfectly linear path.
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461


Oh what a hypocrite you are, you are screaming gang stalking on your threads and shouting criminal activity yet you come to a thread where these supposed '''stalkers''' are posting and try to stir the shit pot. You are a lunatic.
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That wasn't a response to te post, you didn't even try because you CANNOT. Why not? Is it because you don't know jack shit about psychics?

Who are you? Where is your flag indicating what country you are from? Everyone else has them, why don't YOU?

cruise
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461


Yeah! Your post is also an evidence indicating that "you don't know jack shit about physics" The matter, when curves the space-time, follows the path between two points that has the shortest distance, a geodesic (the "straight line" in a surface).

slaphim
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49846547


What is matter 'rolling on' or 'sliding down' in this dimple of 'space time' nothingness?

Why does mass move in a perfectly straight line towards the center of another mass as a result of gravity just like magnets , electrostatics and nuclear forces instead of a curved line? You obviously don't understand what you claim to believe, but then none of you possibly can. There is no such thing as a straight line on a 'geodesic' shape
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We've had some good ones... Duncan, Idol, DrP, Commutator, etc.
Hell, all the debunkers a good.


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cruise
A debunker and shit slinging monkey brained shill are not the same thing. In case you haven't noticed, I spend most of my time debunking parroted nonsense
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Re: Electric Universe and Electric Comet folks - ISON predictions wanted.
BTW The theorised heavy ions involved are not protons or alpha particles as you said but highly ionised heavy ions such as C+5, C+6, N+7, O+7, and O+8. The de-excitation spectra of these ions match previous observations from comets.

Not a big deal just a point of clarification.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5569960


Yes, thank you.
(That was part of the etc., but I hadn't reviewed the spectra to see the energy levels involved.)


R.
 Quoting: Reality420


Sorry, but no! The mentioned heavy ions by the poster are a nonsense: carbon atom without 5 or 6 electrons?, monoatomic oxygen with no electrons (so an oxygen nucleus) ?

The principal free radical species produced in the coma (by photolysis and/or photoionization of gaseous precursors, chemical reactions among coma gases, and destruction of refractory organics on grains) are O(1D), CN, C2, C3, OH, NH, and NH2. (Mumma and Charney 2011, p. 478)

Reference:

Mumma, M.J. and Charnley, S.B.(2011). "The Chemical Composition of Comets—Emerging Taxonomies and Natal Heritage" Annu. Rev. Astron. Astrophys. 49: 471–524
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49846547


Another rationalist. Will wonders never cease?

You are correct, for comets.

He is talking about the particles in the solar wind.
They are virtually completely thermally ionized bare nuclei so his claim that C+5, C+6, N+7, O+7, and O+8 are the species involved is not bizarre.
I will have to read in more depth to determine if he is 100% accurate, but I suspect he is.

My quick research on this phenomena indicated that it was the filling of the K(1s) and L(2s) shells/orbitals which produce the x-rays which makes sense to give the required energies.

That will be for another thread on the deconstruction of the "theories".

Have fun.


R.
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Sorry, I didn't read the previous post. I thought that he was talking about the coma composition. In the case of the solar wind composition, the data provide by Ulysses SWICS (1990) are consistent with his claim: e.g.: C6+, C5+, O7+, Si9+, Fe10+, etc.

Sorry, again.
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Yes, thank you.
(That was part of the etc., but I hadn't reviewed the spectra to see the energy levels involved.)


R.
 Quoting: Reality420


Sorry, but no! The mentioned heavy ions by the poster are a nonsense: carbon atom without 5 or 6 electrons?, monoatomic oxygen with no electrons (so an oxygen nucleus) ?

The principal free radical species produced in the coma (by photolysis and/or photoionization of gaseous precursors, chemical reactions among coma gases, and destruction of refractory organics on grains) are O(1D), CN, C2, C3, OH, NH, and NH2. (Mumma and Charney 2011, p. 478)

Reference:

Mumma, M.J. and Charnley, S.B.(2011). "The Chemical Composition of Comets—Emerging Taxonomies and Natal Heritage" Annu. Rev. Astron. Astrophys. 49: 471–524
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49846547


Another rationalist. Will wonders never cease?

You are correct, for comets.

He is talking about the particles in the solar wind.
They are virtually completely thermally ionized bare nuclei so his claim that C+5, C+6, N+7, O+7, and O+8 are the species involved is not bizarre.
I will have to read in more depth to determine if he is 100% accurate, but I suspect he is.

My quick research on this phenomena indicated that it was the filling of the K(1s) and L(2s) shells/orbitals which produce the x-rays which makes sense to give the required energies.

That will be for another thread on the deconstruction of the "theories".

Have fun.


R.
 Quoting: Reality420


Sorry, I didn't read the previous post. I thought that he was talking about the coma composition. In the case of the solar wind composition, the data provide by Ulysses SWICS (1990) are consistent with his claim: e.g.: C6+, C5+, O7+, Si9+, Fe10+, etc.

Sorry, again.
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Lick his balls.
cruise

I wonder did it ever occur to a lamestrem astrophysicist that if there are iron nuclei and ions in the solar wind, that maybe, just maybe the magnetic field is formed in the only way ever observed instead of the 'moving gasses' bullshit?
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Re: Electric Universe and Electric Comet folks - ISON predictions wanted.
The fairy tale physics is useless. The universe is electric, and every single observation confirms it. All four of the forces are electric and there is not a single element of astrophysics that is not integrated with or dependent on electric interactions. Compare my theory of gravity and the four forces I postulated with lamestream theory!

According to Eisnteinian religion, gravity is caused by distortions in 'space time' caused by matter , and this is what holds the universe together.Bends' in nothing causes other matter to 'roll down into' and be captured by this 'dimple' in 'spacetime'.

There are so many impossibilities and inconsistencies only a dumbed down moron could believe such a fairy tale. I suppose it separates the idiots from te independent thinkers effectively if nothing else.
NO ONE, that claims to believe this claptrap understands it.

If gravity was caused by a distortion in space,cruise
matter would follow the curve of that distortion when 'rolled in to" other matter, instead of being drawn directly into it in a perfectly linear path.
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461


Oh what a hypocrite you are, you are screaming gang stalking on your threads and shouting criminal activity yet you come to a thread where these supposed '''stalkers''' are posting and try to stir the shit pot. You are a lunatic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49886487


That wasn't a response to te post, you didn't even try because you CANNOT. Why not? Is it because you don't know jack shit about psychics?

Who are you? Where is your flag indicating what country you are from? Everyone else has them, why don't YOU?

cruise
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461


Yeah! Your post is also an evidence indicating that "you don't know jack shit about physics" The matter, when curves the space-time, follows the path between two points that has the shortest distance, a geodesic (the "straight line" in a surface).

slaphim
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What is matter 'rolling on' or 'sliding down' in this dimple of 'space time' nothingness?

Why does mass move in a perfectly straight line towards the center of another mass as a result of gravity just like magnets , electrostatics and nuclear forces instead of a curved line? You obviously don't understand what you claim to believe, but then none of you possibly can. There is no such thing as a straight line on a 'geodesic' shape

Can ANY of the lamestrem supporters answer this basic question?
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The Sun emits IRON nuclei? Doesn't that mean there is iron in the Sun?

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Oh what a hypocrite you are, you are screaming gang stalking on your threads and shouting criminal activity yet you come to a thread where these supposed '''stalkers''' are posting and try to stir the shit pot. You are a lunatic.
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That wasn't a response to te post, you didn't even try because you CANNOT. Why not? Is it because you don't know jack shit about psychics?

Who are you? Where is your flag indicating what country you are from? Everyone else has them, why don't YOU?

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Yeah! Your post is also an evidence indicating that "you don't know jack shit about physics" The matter, when curves the space-time, follows the path between two points that has the shortest distance, a geodesic (the "straight line" in a surface).

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What is matter 'rolling on' or 'sliding down' in this dimple of 'space time' nothingness?

Why does mass move in a perfectly straight line towards the center of another mass as a result of gravity just like magnets , electrostatics and nuclear forces instead of a curved line? You obviously don't understand what you claim to believe, but then none of you possibly can. There is no such thing as a straight line on a 'geodesic' shape
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A geodesic is the "straight line" in a 2-D surface (e.g. an sphere, an hyperboloid, etc.) or in a any manifold. Since the space-time is a semi-Riemannian manifold, the "straight line" is, yes, a geodesic.

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The Sun emits IRON nuclei? Doesn't that mean there is iron in the Sun?

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Think maybe that might have something to do with the magnetic field of the Sun?
No, perish the thought!

Mainstream claims all elements are fused in the Sun from hydrogen , but fails to explain where neutrons came from and balks at the idea that the Suns magnetic field has anything to do wit iron. That's just willful stupidity. Wy is it I can explain were neutrons come from and it makes prefect sense and agrees wit te atomic mas of protons, electrons and neutrons?

Why is I can explain the Suns magnetic field within the context of observation but mainstream theory cannot be proved experimentally?
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That wasn't a response to te post, you didn't even try because you CANNOT. Why not? Is it because you don't know jack shit about psychics?

Who are you? Where is your flag indicating what country you are from? Everyone else has them, why don't YOU?

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Yeah! Your post is also an evidence indicating that "you don't know jack shit about physics" The matter, when curves the space-time, follows the path between two points that has the shortest distance, a geodesic (the "straight line" in a surface).

slaphim
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What is matter 'rolling on' or 'sliding down' in this dimple of 'space time' nothingness?

Why does mass move in a perfectly straight line towards the center of another mass as a result of gravity just like magnets , electrostatics and nuclear forces instead of a curved line? You obviously don't understand what you claim to believe, but then none of you possibly can. There is no such thing as a straight line on a 'geodesic' shape
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461


A geodesic is the "straight line" in a 2-D surface (e.g. an sphere, an hyperboloid, etc.) or in a any manifold. Since the space-time is a semi-Riemannian manifold, the "straight line" is, yes, a geodesic.

slaphim
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you>slaphim<me

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There is no straight line possible on a curved surface. Te only perfectly formed line in nature is formed by te four forces acting on mass. It's basic geometry. But god can defy rationality. Einstein is god
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"he was a jew, and everyone thinks he was really ,really smart and no one can really understand a damned thing he said, so he must be right"

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Sorry, but no! The mentioned heavy ions by the poster are a nonsense: carbon atom without 5 or 6 electrons?, monoatomic oxygen with no electrons (so an oxygen nucleus) ?

The principal free radical species produced in the coma (by photolysis and/or photoionization of gaseous precursors, chemical reactions among coma gases, and destruction of refractory organics on grains) are O(1D), CN, C2, C3, OH, NH, and NH2. (Mumma and Charney 2011, p. 478)

Reference:

Mumma, M.J. and Charnley, S.B.(2011). "The Chemical Composition of Comets—Emerging Taxonomies and Natal Heritage" Annu. Rev. Astron. Astrophys. 49: 471–524
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Another rationalist. Will wonders never cease?

You are correct, for comets.

He is talking about the particles in the solar wind.
They are virtually completely thermally ionized bare nuclei so his claim that C+5, C+6, N+7, O+7, and O+8 are the species involved is not bizarre.
I will have to read in more depth to determine if he is 100% accurate, but I suspect he is.

My quick research on this phenomena indicated that it was the filling of the K(1s) and L(2s) shells/orbitals which produce the x-rays which makes sense to give the required energies.

That will be for another thread on the deconstruction of the "theories".

Have fun.


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Sorry, I didn't read the previous post. I thought that he was talking about the coma composition. In the case of the solar wind composition, the data provide by Ulysses SWICS (1990) are consistent with his claim: e.g.: C6+, C5+, O7+, Si9+, Fe10+, etc.

Sorry, again.
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Lick his balls.
cruise

I wonder did it ever occur to a lamestrem astrophysicist that if there are iron nuclei and ions in the solar wind, that maybe, just maybe the magnetic field is formed in the only way ever observed instead of the 'moving gasses' bullshit?
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When I make a mistake I recognize it. That's something that you never have done: your egomania and sociopathy, improperly treated by the medication prescribed by your psychiatrist, impede that you recognize your multiples mistakes and your vital failure, dear Pentcho.

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The motion induced on a s mass by gravitational attraction (or any of the other three forces) is a perfectly straight line as seen from any perspective. This DOES NOT in any logical fashion agree with mainstream theory concerning gravity and disproves it
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Another rationalist. Will wonders never cease?

You are correct, for comets.

He is talking about the particles in the solar wind.
They are virtually completely thermally ionized bare nuclei so his claim that C+5, C+6, N+7, O+7, and O+8 are the species involved is not bizarre.
I will have to read in more depth to determine if he is 100% accurate, but I suspect he is.

My quick research on this phenomena indicated that it was the filling of the K(1s) and L(2s) shells/orbitals which produce the x-rays which makes sense to give the required energies.

That will be for another thread on the deconstruction of the "theories".

Have fun.


R.
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Sorry, I didn't read the previous post. I thought that he was talking about the coma composition. In the case of the solar wind composition, the data provide by Ulysses SWICS (1990) are consistent with his claim: e.g.: C6+, C5+, O7+, Si9+, Fe10+, etc.

Sorry, again.
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Lick his balls.
cruise

I wonder did it ever occur to a lamestrem astrophysicist that if there are iron nuclei and ions in the solar wind, that maybe, just maybe the magnetic field is formed in the only way ever observed instead of the 'moving gasses' bullshit?
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When I make a mistake I recognize it. That's something that you never have done: your egomania and sociopathy, improperly treated by the medication prescribed by your psychiatrist, impede that you recognize your multiples mistakes and your vital failure, dear Pentcho.

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All of the 'diagnoses" aside, you still haven't addressed the questions. Everyone who thinks jews are charlatans and just claiming to be gods is not crazy
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The questions WILL NOT be answered because the truth be known none of the mainstream proponents understand what they're parroting, so when confronted with a REAL debunker they have no answers. ASK MR ANYTHING about the observations involved and I will explain them rationally and within the context of known and proved scientific principals
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This is a well known tactic for cult leaders. Give conflicting messages to the culties to keep them off-balance and to brainwash them into accepting any tripe presented even if it is self-conflicting. In this manner the cult gurus can do anything they want without fear of contradiction from their pliable victims.

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You're too damned stupid to see you described lamestream academia precisely
Waiting on a prediction from the loud-mouthed EU proponents.
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You've been given a detailed one explaining the expected observations. The fact that you have failed to acknowledge it is irrelevant
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A basic principal of electromagnetics is that when a conductor moves through a magnetic field, an electric charge is induced, No scientifically literate person denies this.
Spectrograph analysis of comets prove they contain electrically conductive materials.

Since they are moving through a magnetic field [the interplanetary magnetic field of the Sun], they are inducing an electric charge. Since they are traveling at considerable rates of speed through a magnetic field in a vacuum, it makes the comet an almost perfect capacitor, and the only opportunity it has to discharge is by interactions with the solar wind and close encounters with objects of differing electrical potential. The theory that the tails of comets are made of material blown away from the comet by the solar wind is totally incorrect.

The double tail of many comets is a result of two different phenomenon occurring simultaneously, one is caused by the exact same principal behind florescent lights to, and is explained by the electric universe theory.




Give me 1/1000th of the funding the lamestream "scientists" spent trying to find the 'higgs bosom' and I'll prove the electric universe in one year.

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Yeah! Your post is also an evidence indicating that "you don't know jack shit about physics" The matter, when curves the space-time, follows the path between two points that has the shortest distance, a geodesic (the "straight line" in a surface).

slaphim
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What is matter 'rolling on' or 'sliding down' in this dimple of 'space time' nothingness?

Why does mass move in a perfectly straight line towards the center of another mass as a result of gravity just like magnets , electrostatics and nuclear forces instead of a curved line? You obviously don't understand what you claim to believe, but then none of you possibly can. There is no such thing as a straight line on a 'geodesic' shape
 Quoting: anonymous astrophysicist 49889461


A geodesic is the "straight line" in a 2-D surface (e.g. an sphere, an hyperboloid, etc.) or in a any manifold. Since the space-time is a semi-Riemannian manifold, the "straight line" is, yes, a geodesic.

slaphim
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you>slaphim<me

cruise

There is no straight line possible on a curved surface. Te only perfectly formed line in nature is formed by te four forces acting on mass. It's basic geometry. But god can defy rationality. Einstein is god
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It's mathematics (take a book of differential geometry!), poor troll: the "straight lines" in a manifold (an extension of the typical 2-D surfaces) are called geodesics. If you want to go from one point to another on the surface of a sphere (or on any surface of any curvature), following the shortest path, you must choose the "shortest line", a geodesic.

BTW, the general theory of relativity was formulated initially by A. Einstein, but since then, it has been developed, and used successfully, by hundreds of thousands of scientists around the world for nearly 100 years, failed Pentcho. It's the more accurate instrument for describing the macroscopic world, with no counterexamples until the date.

PS: One more for your list of "claims"!

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