Electric Universe and Electric Comet folks - ISON predictions wanted.

And once again, GLPers show they don't know the meaning of the word "evidence".

This is why EU/EC is a laughing stock. It doesn't even attempt to be scientific. It is science-fiction and damn proud of it.


Any EU/EC proponents who understand science care to make an actual prediction?

So far this "theory" is proving to be nothing more than fantasy for uneducated RubeTubers.


R.

:fullretard1:

:fullretard1:

And I see that IDW is in meltdown mode.
Throwing an adolescent tantrum.
As usual.

Sad case.

The EU/EC proponents must be proud to count him as one of their own...
(snicker)


R.

That you will continue to make a blithering, babbling out of yourself?

But then that IS[/] like predicting it will rain in Seattle at some time in the future, isn't it?

But the question is, and it's a relevant one, does it PROVE you are a retard? Well, you could be acting but if you were I suspect you'd have a career in holyweird and little need to lie on the internet for a quarter a post

So, a mere 4 million bucks? I suppose you should have done that while you were making 200k in a weekend. Bad planning on your part, I suppose.

What, specifically, would be your experiment that could confirm or disprove the EU hypothesis? Spell it out.

EU is a "theory" without "evidence".

You know what we call those, don't you?

Fantasies.
Delusions.
Snake Oil.

Oh, you mean like dark matter and dark energy... which constitute 95% of the universe (which the EU DOES explain).
You know what we call those, don't you?

Fantasies.
Delusions.
Snake Oil.

very compelling,thanks.

Did anyone notice the EU shills have invaded with their Harry Potteresque EU fairy tales.

A lot of words but no science.
Nancy Lieder also babbles interminably about her idiotic "theories" and produces the exact same amount of evidence and science as you lot... None.

Enough with the fairy tales.

Produce a definitive prediction for ISON if your "theory" is capable. Already one interested reader has stated that the EUers lack of predictive power is very suspicious.

As Capt. Kirk would say, "No more blah, blah, blah."

Produce something measurable.
Make a prediction with your wonderful "theory".
If you cannot, it isn't science, it is pseudoscience and fantasy. You've had decades to work something out and what have you? Apparently nothing - an empty sack.

Please post an ISON prediction...
Pretty please?
(Why do I think I'm talking to 5 year olds?)


R.
kOOks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.

It's a double whammy.

Comet Encke is perilously close to Mercury @ Nov 27.

Comet ISON going around the Sun Nov 28.

If you have cash in the bank i'd make a straight line getting there.

Electric Universe proponents have been crying about Ison for months yet are unable to understand their theory enough or do not have enough courage to make a prediction based on the theory.


Why do mathematics and physics principles related to orbital mechanics work (ordered, observable and predictable) but we have no mathematics or physics principles to apply to the EU theory that work consistently enough to match observations and allow for predictions?


These same EU proponents crying about Ison have a great opportunity to demonstrate their understanding of their theory and its validity.

Quite correct.

I lost my shirt back in 2011 which was the last time a comet destroyed the earth. You remember that don't you?
Elenin.
Elenin.
Elenin.
It was horrible.

And then came that damn 2012 End-Times destruction.
Every last living thing was eradicated as the earth was sterilized by a blast of radiation from the core of the galaxy.
Surely you remember that?

(snicker)

Got an EU/EC ISON prediction?
They seem rare as snake hair for some reason, considering how vocal the EUtards are except when asked to produce something substantive instead of just vague fairy tales.

Then they get awfully quiet.

Almost like they haven't anything in their bag.

I wonder how many decades it is going to take before this "theory" can produce an ISON prediction.


R.

Exactly.

I fear that we've caught them at a bad time. They aren't much good at making predictions about what will happen, but they are real crackerjacks at predicting what has already happened.

And they do it with nary a calculation in sight. It's all done with page after page of internet screed.

Just like real science...
(snicker)

Have fun.


R.

The electromagnetic force is in the order of 10^36 times stronger than gravity. You're gonna feel that soon (snicker)

Oh look, the kindergarten kids have arrived.

Is that soon? or sooooon!? or sooooooooooon!!!!!?
How many millenia must I wait for your fantasy to materialize?

Yes the e-force is quite substantial... at subatomic scales.
At macroscopic scales? Not so much. But I wouldn't expect a 10 year old such as you to realise this since you are just regurgitating loon-drool you've read on crazy internet sites.

Maybe you can answer this and if you can you'll realise how weak e-force is compared to gravity at the macroscopic scales of asteroids, comets, and planets.:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
"Oh look, another "the universe is wired like my radio" tard.

OK, eu-tard show us your stuff:

The Earth: mass = 5.97219e+24kg
The Moon: mass = 7.34767309e+22kg

Consider them both as points.
What is the instantaneous force ratio - F(gravity)/F(electric) - if both objects have a charge of
1e+10Coulomb (10 Billion Coulombs)?
(Wow, that's a lot of coulombs! How did that charge get on these objects? Were they hooked to a cosmic Van de Graaff generator?)

I'll leave the derivation to you genius but here's an hint: the distance between the objects doesn't matter for this calculation. Can you tell us why?

Is gravity much, much less than electrical?
Or, is it much, much greater?
(snicker)

Any other eu-tard can jump in and begin drooling at your leisure.

R."



But I'm not here to deconstruct the EU fantasy. That's for another day.

I'm here to collect substantive EU predictions about comet ISON. Comets are one of the favourite subjects of EU/EC loons.

And after all these posts, the total quantity of ISON predictions by the EU folks is....

ZERO.

Why am I not surprised?


R.
kOOks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.

Obfuscation.

I have no time to educate you, I have to go to the bank, remove all my funds, max out my credit cards (sweet justice) then tell the boss to go fuk himself after I kicked his nuts in. You have a nice day now!

Spoken like a true teenager.

Have fun withdrawing your paper route money, and don't forget to pick up your pimple cream.

(They always seem to run away when nasty things like numbers and equations rear their heads. I wonder why?)


R.

I'm going to have a ball!

Incidently, truths are inherently breif.

A wall of text on the other hand signifies some attempt at brainwashing. Good luck with that.

MAYBE Thunder****s WILL make a prediction.... like they did for "DEEP IMPACT"/"TEMPEL 1"....

If I remember correctly, they await to release their predictions until 1 day PRIOR to the actual event so as to prevent the "expert scientists" to manipulate/adjust/update their own data ;)

We'll just have to wait, sit back and enjoy the show :)

Could ison be a magnetar??

Or maybe they do it to run out the clock, so others can't verify/test their claims, with no time to set up an appropriate or duplicate experiment.

T'ain't the way science works.

tOOls troll. Constantly. It's part of the job description

Last Edited by Raymantheheretic on 11/07/2013 02:44 PM

Oh, loock - the GLP-comet-expert entered the playing field.




What comet, Incredible Dim Astrophysicist?
ISON?
May I remind you on your coments on ISON?

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]



[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]



[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]



[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]


And hey, Incredible Dim Astrophysicist, it can't interact with the sun:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]


Incredible Dim Astrophysicist ---> <--- Incredible Dim Astrophysicist

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And these conductive materials are?

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Actually it is not very specific at all.

What is “massive” in terms of a CME? M-class? X-class?

Additionally, what does “during perihelion” mean? If there was an X-class flare today, would that be “during perihelion” even though it actually occurs 3 weeks from today? Is there also a 3 week window on the other side of perihelion for a total of 6 weeks? Are we going to define “during perihelion” as a six week window with actual perihelion as the median? What does “during perihelion” mean to you? If we are going to test this scientifically, shouldn’t this be defined?

Lastly, does the CME have to be directed at Ison, or can it occur anywhere on the sun? If it is directed toward Ison, how will we define directed in degrees? Will there be antipodal activity in conjunction with the CME?

The prediction: “A massive CME during perihelion” is clearly neither “specific” nor “scientific”. You are an astrophysicist right? You should know better.

Well, I did find an answer to Thunderdolt's ISON predictions:

[link to www.thunderbolts.info]

Re: Comet Ison

Shelgeyr wrote:
"I'm just curious about what kind of predictions we in the pro-EU camp are willing to make about possible/likely/darn-near-assured discharge effects the Earth will experience as we transit ISON's debris field and/or tail, especially at the comet's closest approach."


Genius Gone Insane wrote:
"Agreed. It seems like a good opportunity for EU folks to say that mainstream is expecting _____ but we are expecting ______."


Postby Corona » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:26 am:
"I actually asked Wall about his predictions about comet ISON some time last year, but he said something like "I don't do predictions" which is obviously not quite true (see deep impact etc.), but I guess he just hadn't thought about it much at the time. Still, it would be interesting to know what the EU community is expecting."
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Even on their own forum they admit there are no ISON predictions and the leaders of the cult have obviously lied to them...
This seems to be acceptable to the little EU sheep who trot around the internet bleating the loon-drool of the EU cult on every forum and message board they find, like good little culties.

They have an empty sack since their fearless leaders have refused to give them any information or make any predictions.
... And they wonder why they are laughing-stocks and considered arrogant ignoramuses. It's because they are.
(Don't worry little EU sheep, Wal will start making predictions just as soon as something happens that he thinks he can shoehorn into his fantasy. Then he'll predict up a storm about the already-happened event)

What does this remind you of?
ZetaTalk™©® of course.
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Here we are and the Grand Total of EU ISON predictions stands at an impressive:
ZERO.


It's as if EU/EC are like the big-mouthed Texas blowhard - 'All hat, no cattle.'
(I'm beginning to suspect the EU/EC fantasy is just a scam to sell books and DVDs and lectures and other merchandise to gullible science illiterates on the web.)



R.
Waiting for an EU/EC ISON prediction and becoming quite bored.

such a "bait" thread - giving yet another of Astro/Geo's persona the opportunity to bash the messengers of a NEW intelligence that makes theirs - their entire community of academic automatrons look completely incapable of even entertaining a NEW perspective of our Solar system and its purpose in the grand scheme of things ... which is btw NOT limited to Science's THEORIES - but Humanities consciousness of how THEY work, individually - electronically

THIS GUY HYDRA WITH ASTROTROLL/GEO AND OTHERS like THEM SUFFER FROM NORMALCY BIAS

The normalcy bias, or normality bias, refers to a mental state people enter when facing a disaster. It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. This often results in situations where people fail to adequately prepare for a disaster, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. The assumption that is made in the case of the normalcy bias is that since a disaster never has occurred then it never will occur. It also results in the inability of people to cope with a disaster once it occurs. People with a normalcy bias have difficulties reacting to something they have not experienced before. People also tend to interpret warnings in the most optimistic way possible, seizing on any ambiguities to infer a less serious situation.

Last Edited by Zapata on 11/07/2013 06:51 PM