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Kerry to join Iran nuclear talks as Israel 'utterly rejects' emerging deal.
Secretary of State John Kerry will fly to Geneva on Friday to participate in the negotiations between Iran and six world powers on a deal to cap some of the country's atomic programs in exchange for limited relief from sanctions stifling Iran's economy.

Kerry's visit comes as Iran's chief nuclear negotiator signaled progress at the negotiating table, saying the six had accepted Tehran's proposals on how to proceed, even as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called the emerging agreement the "deal of the century" for Iran.

A senior state department official said Friday that Kerry has been open to the possibility of traveling to Geneva for the talks "if it would help narrow differences." The official said European Union's top diplomat, Catherine Ashton, asked Kerry to attend the latest round of discussions.

The official, who spoke to reporters on condition of anonymity, called the negotiations "a complex process" and said Kerry was "committed to doing anything he can" to help.

An EU spokesman said French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius will join Kerry at the talks "to help narrow differences in negotiations" -- a last-minute decision that suggests a deal could be imminent, Reuters reported.

Even if an agreement is reached, it would only be the start of a long process to reduce Iran's potential nuclear threat, with no guarantee of ultimate success.

Netanyahu said Friday that he "utterly rejects" the emerging nuclear deal between western powers and Iran, calling it a "bad deal" and promised that Israel will do everything it needs to do to defend itself.

"I understand the Iranians are walking around very satisfied in Geneva as well they should because they got everything and paid nothing," Netanyahu told reporters before meeting with Kerry in Tel Aviv.

"They wanted relief of sanctions after years of grueling sanctions, they got that. They paid nothing because they are not reducing in any way their nuclear enrichment capability. So Iran got the deal of the century and the international community got a bad deal," Netanyahu said.

"This is a very bad deal and Israel utterly rejects it. Israel is not obliged by this agreement and Israel will do everything it needs to do to defend itself and defend the security of its people," he said.

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I'm actually a little confused as to why the US is even working a deal with Iran. Any ideas?
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Re: Kerry to join Iran nuclear talks as Israel 'utterly rejects' emerging deal.
why are you confused? you make deals to end hostilities.
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Re: Kerry to join Iran nuclear talks as Israel 'utterly rejects' emerging deal.
why are you confused? you make deals to end hostilities.
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Agree
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Re: Kerry to join Iran nuclear talks as Israel 'utterly rejects' emerging deal.
why are you confused? you make deals to end hostilities.
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But, will it end or just delay it and why all of a sudden now? World politics is not my strong point, but something seems odd about all of this. Plus, Israel throwing a tantrum, about this deal, is also odd.
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why are you confused? you make deals to end hostilities.
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But, will it end or just delay it and why all of a sudden now? World politics is not my strong point, but something seems odd about all of this. Plus, Israel throwing a tantrum, about this deal, is also odd.
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ideally end but most likely delay. see Iran is in a very tight spot because there are really big sanctions on the country and that is hurting them. this will probably be a deal to alleviate the sanctions and some nuclear concessions from them. israel is throwing a hissing because it is not getting its way.
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why are you confused? you make deals to end hostilities.
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But, will it end or just delay it and why all of a sudden now? World politics is not my strong point, but something seems odd about all of this. Plus, Israel throwing a tantrum, about this deal, is also odd.
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ideally end but most likely delay. see Iran is in a very tight spot because there are really big sanctions on the country and that is hurting them. this will probably be a deal to alleviate the sanctions and some nuclear concessions from them. israel is throwing a hissing because it is not getting its way.
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Point taken. Thanks for the reply! dasbier
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Kerry was to arrive Friday in Geneva at the invitation of European Union representative Katherine Ashton,"in an effort to help narrow the differences in negotiations, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said. Netanyahu said he reminded Kerry of Iran's true nature, a foe of America and supporter of Islamic terror attacks worldwide.

Mark Dubowitz, executive director of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, says the parts of the offer he has briefed on by the White House surrenders on sanctions and give Iran access to frozen accounts containing cash it can use to expand nuclear facilities or to fund terrorism.

"They're talking about allowing Iran to take back money from foreign accounts," said Dubowitz, who had proposed a different plan to allow Iran to buy non-sanctioned goods in Europe while negotiations continue.

"It totally eviscerates the sanctions regime if you allow Iran to spend money at its discretion to fund the very nuclear program it's funding, the very nuclear program you're trying to stop, or to fund terrorist activities against American citizens," Dubowitz said.

"They told me, don't worry, it's reversible. If they cheat it won't happen again. But that's not reversible, unless you only give them 1% up front and more later."

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I guess the big question is, what will Israel do? I'm guessing...nothing.
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Re: Kerry to join Iran nuclear talks as Israel 'utterly rejects' emerging deal.
I bet Israel feels awful lonely today
Maybe a little trapped
Like the world has turned against them
if this guy isn't the ac then he's his twin roflmao
This maybe will turn out to be the changing of the guard

I bet the Saudis are smiling today also



ogrrr
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I bet Israel feels awful lonely today
Maybe a little trapped
Like the world has turned against them
if this guy isn't the ac then he's his twin roflmao
This maybe will turn out to be the changing of the guard

I bet the Saudis are smiling today also



ogrrr
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why would the saudis be smileing? they would want no talks between iran and the US.
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Re: Kerry to join Iran nuclear talks as Israel 'utterly rejects' emerging deal.
Old story of the man,person,nation who cried wolf to many times.

IT GETS OLD--and then IGNORED.
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Re: Kerry to join Iran nuclear talks as Israel 'utterly rejects' emerging deal.
why are you confused? you make deals to end hostilities.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49644310


But, will it end or just delay it and why all of a sudden now? World politics is not my strong point, but something seems odd about all of this. Plus, Israel throwing a tantrum, about this deal, is also odd.
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New Iranian leader. He won the election and was the closest thing there to progressive. The people of Iran could have chosen a hardliner but didn't. Make of that what you will.
I don't think so,
he's up there with the others laying low,
vying with those who you've traded your life to to bless your soul,
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why are you confused? you make deals to end hostilities.
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But, will it end or just delay it and why all of a sudden now? World politics is not my strong point, but something seems odd about all of this. Plus, Israel throwing a tantrum, about this deal, is also odd.
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New Iranian leader. He won the election and was the closest thing there to progressive. The people of Iran could have chosen a hardliner but didn't. Make of that what you will.
 Quoting: NSF001


Very good point. dasbier
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I was being sarcastic lol
the Saudis have some new nukes on order
and there pissed as hell also
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"OH, I THINK IT IS VERY GOOD!!!"
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I'm actually a little confused as to why the US is even working a deal with Iran. Any ideas?
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Because there's a Muzzie-lover in the Whitehouse, and that's what they DO.

It really is just that simple.
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"OH, I THINK IT IS VERY GOOD!!!"
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why are you confused? you make deals to end hostilities.
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But, will it end or just delay it and why all of a sudden now? World politics is not my strong point, but something seems odd about all of this. Plus, Israel throwing a tantrum, about this deal, is also odd.
 Quoting: Gypsy Priest


New Iranian leader. He won the election and was the closest thing there to progressive. The people of Iran could have chosen a hardliner but didn't. Make of that what you will.
 Quoting: NSF001


Very good point. dasbier
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LOL that's hilarious...

As if thew Iranian PEOPLE have any more say in who 'leads' them than WE do!

I'm laughing my ass off...
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Im all for anything that foils Boo Boo The Belligerent's war plans.
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Im all for anything that foils Boo Boo The Belligerent's war plans.
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Looks like it may come true.


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But, will it end or just delay it and why all of a sudden now? World politics is not my strong point, but something seems odd about all of this. Plus, Israel throwing a tantrum, about this deal, is also odd.
 Quoting: Gypsy Priest


New Iranian leader. He won the election and was the closest thing there to progressive. The people of Iran could have chosen a hardliner but didn't. Make of that what you will.
 Quoting: NSF001


Very good point. dasbier
 Quoting: Gypsy Priest


LOL that's hilarious...

As if thew Iranian PEOPLE have any more say in who 'leads' them than WE do!

I'm laughing my ass off...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40922034


So you're saying the Ayatollah chose the Rouhani after barring all other 'liberal' candidates from running? If this is the case why didn't we see protests like the 2009 green revolution?
I don't think so,
he's up there with the others laying low,
vying with those who you've traded your life to to bless your soul,
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New Iranian leader. He won the election and was the closest thing there to progressive. The people of Iran could have chosen a hardliner but didn't. Make of that what you will.
 Quoting: NSF001


Very good point. dasbier
 Quoting: Gypsy Priest


LOL that's hilarious...

As if thew Iranian PEOPLE have any more say in who 'leads' them than WE do!

I'm laughing my ass off...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40922034


So you're saying the Ayatollah chose the Rouhani after barring all other 'liberal' candidates from running? If this is the case why didn't we see protests like the 2009 green revolution?
 Quoting: NSF001


Agreed
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I think Obama secretly hates Israel and is setting them up. This makes me happy and I can't stand that lying bastard but Israel is the bigger enemy...for now.
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I think Obama secretly hates Israel and is setting them up. This makes me happy and I can't stand that lying bastard but Israel is the bigger enemy...for now.
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They are also a drain on the US economy.
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