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Nuclear Exodus: Pandora's Promise Was a Lie - Must see documentary.

 
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for later.
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So tepco is getting ready to attempt fuel removal. Pretty fucking insane that the fate of the civilization as we know it could rest on tepco playing a really fucked up game of pick up sticks... or operation if you prefer.


If you think I'm exaggerating... come at bros.

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Thyroid cancers already increasing dramatically. Normal rates of thyroid cancer is usually about one in a million in kids. Of course they say its not linked to Fukushima, ha...

[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]

The number of confirmed cases was up by eight from August, while the suspected cases rose by seven, the prefecture-led study found.

About 226,000 people have undergone the screening program since it kicked off in October 2011.

The 26 confirmed cases underwent surgery and are doing well, according to the prefecture.

A panel of experts at the prefecture concluded Tuesday that it is too early to link the cases to the nuclear disaster, given that papillary thyroid cancer — the type found in the 26 people — develops at a very slow pace, according to prefectural officials.
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"Potential phase separations in the corium"... would be very bad Ray.

Nuclear Professor: Centuries before attempting any work on Fukushima molten fuel? — Concern over “potential phase separations” in corium

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[...] the actinides (probably >99.9%) were incorporated into the corium as the melt cooled and was quenched. The corium still contains these radionuclides, which leads to a very large long-term radiotoxicity of the molten reactor core. Access by water to the core may constitute an important vector for transfer of radioactivity. The challenge for radiochemists is to assess the long-term interactions between water and the mixture of corium and potentially still-existing unmelted fuel, particularly if the molten reactor core is left in place and covered with a sarcophagus for hundreds of years. [...]

Comparison of radionuclide release during the accident from the reactors with the radionuclide inventories remaining in the reactor and estimation of corium–water interaction from known spent fuel–water interaction provide important insight for developing assessment and management strategies for the molten fuel in the reactor cores. Furthermore, analyzing the radiochemical analyses of the temporal evolution of the radioactive elements in the cooling water of the accidental reactors provide valuable information on the chemical state of the corium and potential phase separations. Models for corium stability and for radionuclide release from corium upon contact with water will have to be developed [...]
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FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE

SHARE THIS DOC

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We want mind blowing performance, we want it green, and we want it now.

We want it all.

Nuclear Exodus

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This documentary is seriously the Terminator 2 of documentaries.

The documentary presents a real life "come with me if you want to live" moment... for all humanity.

You really need to watch and share this. No fucking joke.

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scary how mathematical formulas are what got us into this mess, the human brain is one mystical motherfucker...

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When Adi was talking about how those kids in the metal hospital have to go live in the prison when they grow up...

All I could think of was this song...

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excellent documentary, sharing this like crazy!
When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter


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10 minutes in.
Never seen before.
PIN IT
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From 36 mins in: Your west coast was nuked to hell from the early fifties for decades.

Hence all the cancer.

Holy crap what a suicide. Genocide.

Check that shit out.
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“Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.” - Dr. Seuss
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how exactly does one get a pin?

and what's the dynamic that allows certain threads to achieve millions of view?

because if there ever was a thread that deserved millions of views, this would be it.
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One word Thorium, why don't we use it????
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One word Thorium, why don't we use it????
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According to questions we have received, proponents claim that thorium reactors produce less waste and its half-life is “only” a few hundred years rather than thousands. That still means hundreds of years of waste. However, contrary to proponent’s claims

If the spent fuel is not reprocessed, thorium-232 is very long lived (half-life: 14 billion years) and its decay products will build up over time in the spent fuel. This will make the spent fuel quite radiotoxic, in addition to all the fission products in it. It should also be noted that inhalation of a unit of radioactivity of thorium-232 or thorium-228 (which is also present as a decay product of thorium-232) produces a far higher dose, especially to certain organs, than the inhalation of uranium containing the same amount of radioactivity. For instance, the bone surface dose from breathing an amount (mass) of insoluble thorium is about 200 times that of breathing the same mass of uranium. 1

And there is still no geologic repository for the waste in the USA and most of the world, and even if there was, the encapsulation process designed to hold the waste has recently been shown to last only 100 years.

On the question of safety, here is how the Union of Concerned Scientists in its Statement on Thorium Fueled Reactors, answers:

Some people believe that liquid fluoride thorium reactors, which would use a high-temperature liquid fuel made of molten salt, would be significantly safer than current-generation reactors. However, such reactors have major flaws. There are serious safety issues associated with the retention of fission products in the fuel, and it is not clear these problems can be effectively resolved. Such reactors also present proliferation and nuclear terrorism risks because they involve the continuous separation, or “reprocessing,” of the fuel to remove fission products and to efficiently produce U-233, which is a nuclear weapon-usable material. Moreover, disposal of the used fuel has turned out to be a major challenge. Stabilization and disposal of the remains of the very small “Molten Salt Reactor Experiment” that operated at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in the 1960s has turned into the most technically challenging cleanup problem that Oak Ridge has faced, and the site has still not been cleaned up. 2

Another claim thorium proponents make is that a thorium reactor is nearer to closing the nuclear fuel cycle. In an interview discussing that topic, Arnie Gundersen said,

The French, and actually the Japanese bought into this. No one has really what we call closed the nuclear fuel cycle. The Japanese tried for years and spent trillions of yen or hundreds of billions of dollars in trying to reprocess fuel and it failed every time. My point is if we had spent that money on alternative energy sources, we would be much more likely to have a solution right at hand that is really cheap. And instead we put all our money on the wrong horse in this race.3

Following a review, even the U. S. Department of Energy has concluded placed Thorium Reactors in the same category as all other nuclear power reactors.

The choice between uranium-based fuel and thorium-based fuel is seen basically as one of preference, with no fundamental difference in addressing the nuclear power issues [of waste management, proliferation risk, safety, security, economics, and sustainability]. Since no infrastructure currently exists in the U.S. for thorium-based fuels, and the processing of thorium-based fuels is at a lower level of technical maturity when compared to processing of uranium-based fuels, costs and RD&D [research, development and deployment] requirements for using thorium are anticipated to be higher. 4

Thorium 232 is not fissile, that means it can’t split and create power. Thorium 232 needs a uranium reactor to get it started by sending out neutrons that the thorium 232 can absorb. When that happens, the thorium 232 changes to U233, which is fissile. So behind every thorium reactor there still is uranium and plutonium that must be disposed of.
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This documentary is the epitome of a Godlike production if I ever saw one. ha
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What other internet beehives could we post this in?
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Not pinned, so ot is not interesting i suppose.
Baabaa sheep. Carry on.
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Fuck a pin, they need to nail this fucking documentary to the top permanently
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OH loook somehow this thread slipped to the 2nd page. How careless.


bigity bump!
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Okay if these spent fuel assemblies were bent "before" the explosions... then what the fuck effect did the explosions have on the fuel assemblies?

Did the explosions just caress the fuel rods gently while they slept peacefully?

Does that mean other TEPCO fuel assemblies have the same problem. I could have sworn that stupid fucking TEPCO animation said they did this thousands of times without incident.


Damaged fuel rods are cracked and leaking radioactive gases in Fukushima Unit 4 pool; Wire appears trapped in racks — Another assembly bent when “mishandled during a transfer”


Japan Times, Nov. 14, 2013: Earlier this week, Tepco found three damaged assemblies that will be difficult to remove, but officials said the damage appeared to have occurred before the March 11 disasters.

Reuters, Nov. 14, 2013: One of the assemblies was damaged as far back as 1982, when it was mishandled during a transfer, and is bent out of shape, Tepco said in a brief note at the bottom of an 11-page information sheet in August. In a statement from April 2010, Tepco said it found two other spent fuel racks in the reactor’s cooling pool had what appeared to be wire trapped in them. Rods in those assemblies have pin-hole cracks and are leaking low-level radioactive gases, Tepco spokesman Yoshikazu Nagai told Reuters on Thursday. [...] Having to deal with the damaged assemblies is likely to make [removing the other fuel] more difficult [...]

Tepco spokeswoman Mayumi Yoshida: “The three fuel assemblies … cannot be transported by cask [...] We are currently reviewing how to transport these fuel assemblies to the common spent fuel pool,” she said.
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^^ From enenews.com

Forgot to add the link...

[link to enenews.com]
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This documentary straight Mike Tyson KO'ed the nuclear industry.

It's unbelievable. You gotta watch it.

Nuclear Exodus: Pandora's Promise Was A Lie

[trailer]

[link to youtu.be]

[full documentary]

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once upon a time,

there was a man named bump.
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Nail it to the top like Martin Luther!

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