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By now u've all figured out a scam.. If u have insurance , u'd better listen close. As usual, spot on... Pin, I wouldn't ask if it wasn't deserving at this point....dance

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Inside info.... Trust or lose, your choice ... It effects all of you....hiding
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By now u've all figured out a scam.. If u have insurance , u'd better listen close. As usual, spot on... Pin, I wouldn't ask if it wasn't deserving at this point....dance


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I thank u for your support, push that info!!!!!bump
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Please embed if u can.... We all have family members that will be affected... We can stop it if people know it...!!!
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Jc, does anyone give a shit?????

This is ur food supply, yes, just one link to the puzzle of food, but u can get a lawsuit going if u can get this info made public!!!
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You wanna give us some bullet points?

Medical insurance companies are working within the govt to snare all entitlement program recipients, and their own employees, to make sure they are all under govt insurance, not private insurance.

Because all insurance companies are co mingled with all types of insurance and this is going to prop up those who insure the banks. Which doesn't help us, as they don't insure our money, just the banks.
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You wanna give us some bullet points?

Medical insurance companies are working within the govt to snare all entitlement program recipients, and their own employees, to make sure they are all under govt insurance, not private insurance.

Because all insurance companies are co mingled with all types of insurance and this is going to prop up those who insure the banks. Which doesn't help us, as they don't insure our money, just the banks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14385938


But if the company screwed up..... They lied to thier employees for knowing the policy beforehand.... The company made a deal, but the insurers knew just as well... They waited for September 30 2013... That is fraud if it was prior knowledge, and they need to be held accountable!!!
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Here we see why this is a big deal... This is just one chain of US supermarkets merged with European supermarkets.. Better pay attention folks. This effects Europe too just with this one grocer alone!!bump


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Sorry I just can't wrap this around my head. I know for a fact Obamacare has the insurance companies hands behind their backs. Ins cos are being taxed to death and having to pay fee after fee to even be able to OFFER insurance within the market exchanges. They pushed and pushed til the very last minute to update CEOs about the mandate. CEOs weren't happy with Obamacare and were doing what they could to offer plans that are compliant with the gov regulations.

Cigna has always worked with large corporations to ensure their employees. Banks included. So what is this guy saying is fraudulent? I guess I'm not understanding
If we don't listen we will never hear the truth
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Sorry I just can't wrap this around my head. I know for a fact Obamacare has the insurance companies hands behind their backs. Ins cos are being taxed to death and having to pay fee after fee to even be able to OFFER insurance within the market exchanges. They pushed and pushed til the very last minute to update CEOs about the mandate. CEOs weren't happy with Obamacare and were doing what they could to offer plans that are compliant with the gov regulations.

Cigna has always worked with large corporations to ensure their employees. Banks included. So what is this guy saying is fraudulent? I guess I'm not understanding
 Quoting: Listen_n


Plans were negotiated before the timeline hit. It is technically a one year exemption for those who currently hold a policy until the EMPLOyEr mandate is up. Only then will any and ALL policies be not in compliance. It was never about the individual policy, but the employer mandate that was the key part. Anyone locked in currently through these companies will be dropped, only so , that the company / corp makes a double to nothing profit this next 6 months to a year. Anyone who signed up through aldi especially had a policy , only until the employer mandate is effective.... The employees will then lose that coverage as well on top of the the ones who did not meet the Sept30 2013 deadline we are already hearing are be dropped!!bump
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Sorry I just can't wrap this around my head. I know for a fact Obamacare has the insurance companies hands behind their backs. Ins cos are being taxed to death and having to pay fee after fee to even be able to OFFER insurance within the market exchanges. They pushed and pushed til the very last minute to update CEOs about the mandate. CEOs weren't happy with Obamacare and were doing what they could to offer plans that are compliant with the gov regulations.

Cigna has always worked with large corporations to ensure their employees. Banks included. So what is this guy saying is fraudulent? I guess I'm not understanding
 Quoting: Listen_n


Plans were negotiated before the timeline hit. It is technically a one year exemption for those who currently hold a policy until the EMPLOyEr mandate is up. Only then will any and ALL policies be not in compliance. It was never about the individual policy, but the employer mandate that was the key part. Anyone locked in currently through these companies will be dropped, only so , that the company / corp makes a double to nothing profit this next 6 months to a year. Anyone who signed up through aldi especially had a policy , only until the employer mandate is effective.... The employees will then lose that coverage as well on top of the the ones who did not meet the Sept30 2013 deadline we are already hearing are be dropped!!bump
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How were they able to sign up with a plan before Sept 30? Open enrollment was between Oct 8 - Nov 8.

I'll double check that first date but I know the plans are compliant with the gov regulations. Not sure why they'd be dropped from a plan that was already gov approved. The only way an ins co can offer a plan for 2014 is if they are approved by the gov and paid exchange fees to sell the plans.

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Sorry I just can't wrap this around my head. I know for a fact Obamacare has the insurance companies hands behind their backs. Ins cos are being taxed to death and having to pay fee after fee to even be able to OFFER insurance within the market exchanges. They pushed and pushed til the very last minute to update CEOs about the mandate. CEOs weren't happy with Obamacare and were doing what they could to offer plans that are compliant with the gov regulations.

Cigna has always worked with large corporations to ensure their employees. Banks included. So what is this guy saying is fraudulent? I guess I'm not understanding
 Quoting: Listen_n


Plans were negotiated before the timeline hit. It is technically a one year exemption for those who currently hold a policy until the EMPLOyEr mandate is up. Only then will any and ALL policies be not in compliance. It was never about the individual policy, but the employer mandate that was the key part. Anyone locked in currently through these companies will be dropped, only so , that the company / corp makes a double to nothing profit this next 6 months to a year. Anyone who signed up through aldi especially had a policy , only until the employer mandate is effective.... The employees will then lose that coverage as well on top of the the ones who did not meet the Sept30 2013 deadline we are already hearing are be dropped!!bump
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How were they able to sign up with a plan before Sept 30? Open enrollment was between Oct 8 - Nov 8.
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Not if u were an employee and had an existing plan sin e or before sept30 2013. If ur plan was existing at the time, the policy changes were not effective until 1 oct 2013. BUT, and I say BuT, since the employer mandate is not effective till2014, any and all policies made during the time, 2010 till 2014 Oct, are not and I repeat NOT in compliance with the legislation.... So, it is a backdoor to say that if ur employer contract was not fulfilled through the legislation, your individual policy along with whatever company had the One year extension( not EXemption) are subject to termination!!!!!!!
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We're not talking about obamacare, but ur individual insurances through your corporation contracts. You guys getting it now????? It's going to force you into the exchange....
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Sorry I just can't wrap this around my head. I know for a fact Obamacare has the insurance companies hands behind their backs. Ins cos are being taxed to death and having to pay fee after fee to even be able to OFFER insurance within the market exchanges. They pushed and pushed til the very last minute to update CEOs about the mandate. CEOs weren't happy with Obamacare and were doing what they could to offer plans that are compliant with the gov regulations.

Cigna has always worked with large corporations to ensure their employees. Banks included. So what is this guy saying is fraudulent? I guess I'm not understanding
 Quoting: Listen_n


Plans were negotiated before the timeline hit. It is technically a one year exemption for those who currently hold a policy until the EMPLOyEr mandate is up. Only then will any and ALL policies be not in compliance. It was never about the individual policy, but the employer mandate that was the key part. Anyone locked in currently through these companies will be dropped, only so , that the company / corp makes a double to nothing profit this next 6 months to a year. Anyone who signed up through aldi especially had a policy , only until the employer mandate is effective.... The employees will then lose that coverage as well on top of the the ones who did not meet the Sept30 2013 deadline we are already hearing are be dropped!!bump
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Some inside info: all plans have to be negotiated prior to the timeline so the ins co can have ample time to print up the materials to mail out. The gov pushed and pushed to the last minute while the ins co was sweating about mailing out materials. Also if this is working anything like Medicare, its always been a profit for ins co to take on the people with entitlements because the gov pays more to the ins co to take care of those people. The outrageous premiums people pay to the gov...a portion of that premium will go to the ins co. How much of a cut will depend on how much care they need. The majority of "the entitled" require more care. Therefore gov pays more cut
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Sorry I just can't wrap this around my head. I know for a fact Obamacare has the insurance companies hands behind their backs. Ins cos are being taxed to death and having to pay fee after fee to even be able to OFFER insurance within the market exchanges. They pushed and pushed til the very last minute to update CEOs about the mandate. CEOs weren't happy with Obamacare and were doing what they could to offer plans that are compliant with the gov regulations.

Cigna has always worked with large corporations to ensure their employees. Banks included. So what is this guy saying is fraudulent? I guess I'm not understanding
 Quoting: Listen_n


Plans were negotiated before the timeline hit. It is technically a one year exemption for those who currently hold a policy until the EMPLOyEr mandate is up. Only then will any and ALL policies be not in compliance. It was never about the individual policy, but the employer mandate that was the key part. Anyone locked in currently through these companies will be dropped, only so , that the company / corp makes a double to nothing profit this next 6 months to a year. Anyone who signed up through aldi especially had a policy , only until the employer mandate is effective.... The employees will then lose that coverage as well on top of the the ones who did not meet the Sept30 2013 deadline we are already hearing are be dropped!!bump
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How were they able to sign up with a plan before Sept 30? Open enrollment was between Oct 8 - Nov 8.
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Not if u were an employee and had an existing plan sin e or before sept30 2013. If ur plan was existing at the time, the policy changes were not effective until 1 oct 2013. BUT, and I say BuT, since the employer mandate is not effective till2014, any and all policies made during the time, 2010 till 2014 Oct, are not and I repeat NOT in compliance with the legislation.... So, it is a backdoor to say that if ur employer contract was not fulfilled through the legislation, your individual policy along with whatever company had the One year extension( not EXemption) are subject to termination!!!!!!!
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Ok but employees have to re-enroll or make elections to their plans each year. They don't always "roll over" to the next year. We had to change our plan this year and it was gov compliant. So are u saying those who had a plan last year that didn't update their plans effective 2014 will be forced over to Obamacare?
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Sorry I just can't wrap this around my head. I know for a fact Obamacare has the insurance companies hands behind their backs. Ins cos are being taxed to death and having to pay fee after fee to even be able to OFFER insurance within the market exchanges. They pushed and pushed til the very last minute to update CEOs about the mandate. CEOs weren't happy with Obamacare and were doing what they could to offer plans that are compliant with the gov regulations.

Cigna has always worked with large corporations to ensure their employees. Banks included. So what is this guy saying is fraudulent? I guess I'm not understanding
 Quoting: Listen_n


Plans were negotiated before the timeline hit. It is technically a one year exemption for those who currently hold a policy until the EMPLOyEr mandate is up. Only then will any and ALL policies be not in compliance. It was never about the individual policy, but the employer mandate that was the key part. Anyone locked in currently through these companies will be dropped, only so , that the company / corp makes a double to nothing profit this next 6 months to a year. Anyone who signed up through aldi especially had a policy , only until the employer mandate is effective.... The employees will then lose that coverage as well on top of the the ones who did not meet the Sept30 2013 deadline we are already hearing are be dropped!!bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18230991


Some inside info: all plans have to be negotiated prior to the timeline so the ins co can have ample time to print up the materials to mail out. The gov pushed and pushed to the last minute while the ins co was sweating about mailing out materials. Also if this is working anything like Medicare, its always been a profit for ins co to take on the people with entitlements because the gov pays more to the ins co to take care of those people. The outrageous premiums people pay to the gov...a portion of that premium will go to the ins co. How much of a cut will depend on how much care they need. The majority of "the entitled" require more care. Therefore gov pays more cut
 Quoting: Listen_n


The employer mandate will expire. Those under those policies were carried for ONLY one YEAR further, meaning, that one year extension will no longer be compliant with the new law... It's only a one year coverage extension until every company/ corp that got the extension, no longer is valid due to its in compliance with the law....the first round of losers is the ones who purchased individual insurance 5-10 million, the second round is the termination of policies with the EMPLOYEr mandate and any policies UNDEr that umbrella. Which is literally between 30 Nd 55 million who think they have coverage ThRouGh thier company....!!!! It will expire next year UNLESS your company/corp falls under the EXEMPTIOn!! It is a tactic.
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Ok I'll say this: if people made elections or updated their policy, they should've received a printout. That print out is a confirmation and should verify the compliance with the gov. If people had a plan and didn't make changes or expected the plan to roll over to 2014 they need to get their changes done ASAP if it is at all possible. Some companies will allow last minute decisions or plan changes after Nov 8
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Plans were negotiated before the timeline hit. It is technically a one year exemption for those who currently hold a policy until the EMPLOyEr mandate is up. Only then will any and ALL policies be not in compliance. It was never about the individual policy, but the employer mandate that was the key part. Anyone locked in currently through these companies will be dropped, only so , that the company / corp makes a double to nothing profit this next 6 months to a year. Anyone who signed up through aldi especially had a policy , only until the employer mandate is effective.... The employees will then lose that coverage as well on top of the the ones who did not meet the Sept30 2013 deadline we are already hearing are be dropped!!bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18230991


How were they able to sign up with a plan before Sept 30? Open enrollment was between Oct 8 - Nov 8.
 Quoting: Listen_n


Not if u were an employee and had an existing plan sin e or before sept30 2013. If ur plan was existing at the time, the policy changes were not effective until 1 oct 2013. BUT, and I say BuT, since the employer mandate is not effective till2014, any and all policies made during the time, 2010 till 2014 Oct, are not and I repeat NOT in compliance with the legislation.... So, it is a backdoor to say that if ur employer contract was not fulfilled through the legislation, your individual policy along with whatever company had the One year extension( not EXemption) are subject to termination!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18230991


Ok but employees have to re-enroll or make elections to their plans each year. They don't always "roll over" to the next year. We had to change our plan this year and it was gov compliant. So are u saying those who had a plan last year that didn't update their plans effective 2014 will be forced over to Obamacare?
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Yes, since 2010 it is yearly... People were misguided to believe that if thier policy was updated yearly it would be in compliance. The truth is, that until the employer extension is terminated (2014) any and ALL policies will stay current, UNTiL the employer mandate is Up, and then therefore falls Incompliant!!!!!
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Sorry I just can't wrap this around my head. I know for a fact Obamacare has the insurance companies hands behind their backs. Ins cos are being taxed to death and having to pay fee after fee to even be able to OFFER insurance within the market exchanges. They pushed and pushed til the very last minute to update CEOs about the mandate. CEOs weren't happy with Obamacare and were doing what they could to offer plans that are compliant with the gov regulations.

Cigna has always worked with large corporations to ensure their employees. Banks included. So what is this guy saying is fraudulent? I guess I'm not understanding
 Quoting: Listen_n


Plans were negotiated before the timeline hit. It is technically a one year exemption for those who currently hold a policy until the EMPLOyEr mandate is up. Only then will any and ALL policies be not in compliance. It was never about the individual policy, but the employer mandate that was the key part. Anyone locked in currently through these companies will be dropped, only so , that the company / corp makes a double to nothing profit this next 6 months to a year. Anyone who signed up through aldi especially had a policy , only until the employer mandate is effective.... The employees will then lose that coverage as well on top of the the ones who did not meet the Sept30 2013 deadline we are already hearing are be dropped!!bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18230991


Some inside info: all plans have to be negotiated prior to the timeline so the ins co can have ample time to print up the materials to mail out. The gov pushed and pushed to the last minute while the ins co was sweating about mailing out materials. Also if this is working anything like Medicare, its always been a profit for ins co to take on the people with entitlements because the gov pays more to the ins co to take care of those people. The outrageous premiums people pay to the gov...a portion of that premium will go to the ins co. How much of a cut will depend on how much care they need. The majority of "the entitled" require more care. Therefore gov pays more cut
 Quoting: Listen_n


The employer mandate will expire. Those under those policies were carried for ONLY one YEAR further, meaning, that one year extension will no longer be compliant with the new law... It's only a one year coverage extension until every company/ corp that got the extension, no longer is valid due to its in compliance with the law....the first round of losers is the ones who purchased individual insurance 5-10 million, the second round is the termination of policies with the EMPLOYEr mandate and any policies UNDEr that umbrella. Which is literally between 30 Nd 55 million who think they have coverage ThRouGh thier company....!!!! It will expire next year UNLESS your company/corp falls under the EXEMPTIOn!! It is a tactic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18230991


Sorry I THINK I'm following u - are u saying some companies received a year extension to the mandate and offered NON compliant coverage to their employees? Then when the mandate kicks in mid term they'll be forced into Obamacare?
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How were they able to sign up with a plan before Sept 30? Open enrollment was between Oct 8 - Nov 8.
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Not if u were an employee and had an existing plan sin e or before sept30 2013. If ur plan was existing at the time, the policy changes were not effective until 1 oct 2013. BUT, and I say BuT, since the employer mandate is not effective till2014, any and all policies made during the time, 2010 till 2014 Oct, are not and I repeat NOT in compliance with the legislation.... So, it is a backdoor to say that if ur employer contract was not fulfilled through the legislation, your individual policy along with whatever company had the One year extension( not EXemption) are subject to termination!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18230991


Ok but employees have to re-enroll or make elections to their plans each year. They don't always "roll over" to the next year. We had to change our plan this year and it was gov compliant. So are u saying those who had a plan last year that didn't update their plans effective 2014 will be forced over to Obamacare?
 Quoting: Listen_n


Yes, since 2010 it is yearly... People were misguided to believe that if thier policy was updated yearly it would be in compliance. The truth is, that until the employer extension is terminated (2014) any and ALL policies will stay current, UNTiL the employer mandate is Up, and then therefore falls Incompliant!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18230991


So my insurance says my plan is gov compliant. But you're saying it won't be 2014 when the mandate becomes effective?
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It is literally a Catch 22. Either get the obamacare now, or have an entire year of premium increases until your Employer mandate expires ( double or triple what it could be now) or pay the fine, that exponentially increases each year with Additional regulations added. Either way , it's not just a fine. It's you , being locked out of your healthcare while your employer keeps making the money.
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Not if u were an employee and had an existing plan sin e or before sept30 2013. If ur plan was existing at the time, the policy changes were not effective until 1 oct 2013. BUT, and I say BuT, since the employer mandate is not effective till2014, any and all policies made during the time, 2010 till 2014 Oct, are not and I repeat NOT in compliance with the legislation.... So, it is a backdoor to say that if ur employer contract was not fulfilled through the legislation, your individual policy along with whatever company had the One year extension( not EXemption) are subject to termination!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18230991


Ok but employees have to re-enroll or make elections to their plans each year. They don't always "roll over" to the next year. We had to change our plan this year and it was gov compliant. So are u saying those who had a plan last year that didn't update their plans effective 2014 will be forced over to Obamacare?
 Quoting: Listen_n


Yes, since 2010 it is yearly... People were misguided to believe that if thier policy was updated yearly it would be in compliance. The truth is, that until the employer extension is terminated (2014) any and ALL policies will stay current, UNTiL the employer mandate is Up, and then therefore falls Incompliant!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18230991


So my insurance says my plan is gov compliant. But you're saying it won't be 2014 when the mandate becomes effective?
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Yes exactly, because the Employer mandate is not effective. Currently, through that time period, you will only see the individual be effective. The time will come when everyone under thier Employers ( who think they are safe) will be one effective. That is precisely the point.
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It is literally a Catch 22. Either get the obamacare now, or have an entire year of premium increases until your Employer mandate expires ( double or triple what it could be now) or pay the fine, that exponentially increases each year with Additional regulations added. Either way , it's not just a fine. It's you , being locked out of your healthcare while your employer keeps making the money.
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That's frickin illegal for a company to be paid for your healthcare and not provide u with it. Surely they aren't trying to pull that shit. I do know all Cigna plans are gov compliant so whomever is covered by Cigna should be fine. If the ins co isn't in the exchanges, then they aren't gov compliant and yes that plan will be private insurance and a fee will be applied by the gov. However the insured should still receive healthcare. I can't imagine they would not provide healthcare unless the insurance co went out of business. This would be outrageous if they try to pull this off.
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oh this is just getting better and better isnt it folks?
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Phenom, u've seen my posts over the past three years when I had an account here. Is this or is this not legit??? I only post stuff I am certain on, but this needs to be known. Please help people push this info. What effects some of us now, the other 70% it will effect one year from now. Thank you for your time...yoda
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Gotta get some sleep but I'm def following this thread. I hope to God they don't try this craziness.
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oh this is just getting better and better isnt it folks?
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Phenom, u've seen my posts over the past three years when I had an account here. Is this or is this not legit??? I only post stuff I am certain on, but this needs to be known. Please help people push this info. What effects some of us now, the other 70% it will effect one year from now. Thank you for your time...yoda
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oh im certain theres some serious colluding nefarious shit happening here. cmon...

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It is literally a Catch 22. Either get the obamacare now, or have an entire year of premium increases until your Employer mandate expires ( double or triple what it could be now) or pay the fine, that exponentially increases each year with Additional regulations added. Either way , it's not just a fine. It's you , being locked out of your healthcare while your employer keeps making the money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18230991


That's frickin illegal for a company to be paid for your healthcare and not provide u with it. Surely they aren't trying to pull that shit. I do know all Cigna plans are gov compliant so whomever is covered by Cigna should be fine. If the ins co isn't in the exchanges, then they aren't gov compliant and yes that plan will be private insurance and a fee will be applied by the gov. However the insured should still receive healthcare. I can't imagine they would not provide healthcare unless the insurance co went out of business. This would be outrageous if they try to pull this off.
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The plans are ONLy govt compliant until the Employer Mandate is lifted. That is not for another year. As of current you are correct. But when the employer mandate is effective and the REAL portion of the law is implemented, your employer is only compliant UNTIL that date. Think of it as a one year hold, and then the legislation fully becomes effective. Those of you who have insurance through your companies now ( and are compliant) will not be when that employer mandate is Up!! I do t think I can be more clearer than that. The people losing thier insurance now, ( which will be in the millions by January) are only the individual policies that were purchased by people like you. So you can imagine how many people are going to lose it, when its through thier employer......!?!?!?!tomatobump
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For the record - I don't doubt YOU or the legitimacy of your post. I just work for the insurance company but on the Medicare side. I sat thru all the meetings and listened to the stressed out CEOs. I've seen all the plans they offer to their employees and to the employers' employees, and know they're compliant for 2014. Now I can't account for ALL ins cos except the one I work for.
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