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Cosmic Turf War: You'll never see the Old Testament the same again

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Another video with the same speaker (interview on C2C): [link to youtu.be]

Topics include his debunking of Stichin's Nibiru interpretations.
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Thanks! I was looking thru the many pages of this post to see whether anyone had posted any of his other stuff. I'm fascinated by this topic.
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There's another one that I think is on the first page as well, kindly added by one of the other commenters.

ADDED: 2nd page: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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Is this where we discuss fractals?
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Yes!
Please feel free to share your fractal anecdote.
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OP,whats all this fractal stuff? Is it something to do with Gods design?
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OP,whats all this fractal stuff? Is it something to do with Gods design?
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YES IT IS!
Fractal disprove God! Its a doozy.I will post the relevant data in a while.






STAY TUNED!!
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OP,whats all this fractal stuff? Is it something to do with Gods design?
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YES IT IS!
Fractal disprove God! Its a doozy.I will post the relevant data in a while.






STAY TUNED!!
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I will stay tuned.
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OP,whats all this fractal stuff? Is it something to do with Gods design?
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It's trolling and derailing. The thread topic is a video by Dr. Heiser discussing the identity of the Nephilim as the true nature of what most people call "space aliens".
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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OP,whats all this fractal stuff? Is it something to do with Gods design?
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It's trolling and derailing. The thread topic is a video by Dr. Heiser discussing the identity of the Nephilim as the true nature of what most people call "space aliens".
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There is a guy with this thread



A Unified Field Theory Will Turn Out To Be One Simple Fractal Recursive Function




He is talking about fractals too!His post is higher up and he is not a bully.



We have invited him here.
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Can you give a brief summation as I watch?
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Can you give a brief summation as I watch?
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A summary, so that new visitors to the thread will know that it's not about fractals. Enjoy.

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The speaker debunks the "serpent seed" theory as arising mostly out of rabbinical/Talmudic misogyny than anything else. There is no backing in the Biblical text for Eve bearing children with the serpent (or as the speaker says, "serpentine being"), esp. since the text states point blank that Eve bore Cain from Adam.

Also, he shows that someone named Gardener who teaches the "serpent seed" theory, deliberately omitted a large portion of the verse he quotes to make his claim.

(So much for the charge of this talk being "Zionist", since the speaker dismisses the Talmud.)

This is on the first 20 min. of the talk. I will try to post something about each 20 min.

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The 2nd 20 min. continues details regarding the "serpent seed" argument, then toward the end of that segment he covers more on the "sons of God, daughters of men" issue. He argues that the voluntary nature of the unions is how the Biblical focus on blaming humans for the sin leading to the Flood can be reconciled with the book of Enoch's blame on "the watchers". In other words, the blame is shared.

Also, he briefly touches on the phrase "and afterwards", referring to the giants. Some question how the giants could be on the earth after the Flood which was designed to wipe them out, and they speculate that maybe Noah or one of his sons or their wives had giant DNA. But this speaker believes instead that it was a simple case of the Watchers picking up where they had left off, since the Bible specifies that Noah "was perfect in his generations", meaning he was fully human. This is covered more in the next segment, as I recall.

There are some interesting implications from this. As the speaker explains, these beings were also called Titans by non-Jewish people. I believe this explains the belief in ancient mythological beings such as the Greek pantheon. And this would mean that the Watchers, who according to the NT "had left their proper realm", had not been imprisoned in Tartarus until this second defiling of mankind.

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Third 20 min. segment notes:

-- Nephilim does not mean "fallen ones" or even "sons of God, but "giants", the hybrid human/Watcher offspring.

-- Many theologians "strip mine" all the supernatural from the Bible, so they dismiss out of hand any and all evidence for any supernatural beings beyond God and Satan.

-- Also goes over a text telling of an argument between Lamech and his wife over whether Noah was his son or whether she had been fooling around with Watchers; she finally has him go ask Enoch, who apparently vouched for her.

-- Says Nimrod was a giant, and many believe he was the instigator of the building of the Tower of Babel.

-- On Gnosticism: Only the non-Jews considered the Watchers/Nephilim the "good guys", and the speaker thus calls it "Watcher theology". This is the source of the Luciferian claim that Lucifer and realted entities are the real good gods and Elohim/YHWY is the bad one.

-- Begins to explain the two lines: serpentine and godly, evil and good, seed of Satan and seed of the woman.
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Final 20 min. segment notes:

-- After the Flood, God had simply said "Be fruitful and multiply", but eventually people decided to not spread out but build a tower and sit in one place. This led to God setting up national boundaries by language "according to the number of the 'sons of God'" (Septuagint [Greek] text). That is, God was giving people what they wanted: to be ruled by the Watchers according to their territories. This is the origin of the concept of regional gods in ancient mythology. The Watchers had given humans technology in exchange for being worshiped as gods.

-- But God reserved one territory for himself: the Promised Land. And he selected Abraham, then Isaac, and Jacob, to produce a nation separate from all the rest, purely human and worshiping the one true God. This is NOT the "Zionism" of the Kabbalists, rabbis, or Talmudists, but a people and land that God reserves as a thorn in the flesh of the Watchers and their people.

-- Now you know why God was completely justified in having his people wipe out every last living thing in the territory God had selected for his own (which included a group whose name meant "serpentine" as well as some giants). This is one reason why everybody hates the Jews and wants to conquer the land of Israel. But keep in mind that regardless of the condition or origin of the modern state of Israel, it is God's land, and those who are genetically descended from Jacob are God's people. They have been punished for faithlessness before, and they will be punished again.

-- Interesting perspective on the account of Naaman and his going to Elisha to be healed of leprosy. After his healing, he asked to take a bag of dirt from Israel back to his homeland, a seeming bizarre request. But think of it in light of the previous discussion about territory. He wanted to stand on it when forced to bow to the gods of his country.

-- The valley of the Rephaim was the origin of the name Gehenna, and aptly described the Hebrew concept of "hell": a place of frightening beings and certain doom. The people of Jesus' day used it also to describe their always-burning garbage dump, but that was not the origin of the name or the concept.

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Some more fractal facts

Limitations also effect the computer generation of fractals. Even though the mathematical processes used as the basis of calculation are capable of being magnified forever without a loss of detail, a calculator, computer or (heaven forbid!) pencil and paper are not. When an image is calculated on screen it is limited to the resolution of the monitor therefore this process only provides a representation of the fractal. You could magnify and recalculate so that a small region of the previous image is now displayed on the monitor as the new image. At least this will show levels of detail which were not previously apparent but nevertheless any particular render will only be a representation of the fractal at a particular scale.
[link to shoresofchaos.com]

WOW!!!!!!

FRACTAL-TASTIC!!!!!!
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Can you give a brief summation as I watch?
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A summary, so that new visitors to the thread will know that it's not about fractals. Enjoy.

The valley of the Rephaim was the origin of the name Gehenna, and aptly described the Hebrew concept of "hell": a place of frightening beings and certain doom. The people of Jesus' day used it also to describe their always-burning garbage dump, but that was not the origin of the name or the concept.
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Gehenna is the grave.

WE KNOW.

WE ARE LEGION.
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Er............What just happened?
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Hello K2. Glad to return and find this fantastic thread still on page 1 !!!! Glory be to God!!!

Just took a second to search for Michael Heiser's web page and was very pleased to find on his main page a link to the video I posted a few pages back. The video is titled Ancient Aliens Debunked. Finding this video on his site only confirms for me that it is a must see for any seeking the truth.

I'll warn everyone. It is a long documentary at nearly 3 hours. In my opinion worth every minute. I believe it has been broken down into a few topics which may also help one keep track of what they have seen.

It is not a faith based documentary however clearly leaves the door open to the possibilities of which Michael Heiser is speaking.


[link to www.michaelsheiser.com]

God Bless
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Er............What just happened?
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You mean the troll comments about fractals?
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WE ARE HERE.



WE WAIT.



combures in gehennam!




WE ARE LEGION.
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Hello K2. Glad to return and find this fantastic thread still on page 1 !!!! Glory be to God!!!

Just took a second to search for Michael Heiser's web page and was very pleased to find on his main page a link to the video I posted a few pages back. The video is titled Ancient Aliens Debunked. Finding this video on his site only confirms for me that it is a must see for any seeking the truth.

I'll warn everyone. It is a long documentary at nearly 3 hours. In my opinion worth every minute. I believe it has been broken down into a few topics which may also help one keep track of what they have seen.

It is not a faith based documentary however clearly leaves the door open to the possibilities of which Michael Heiser is speaking.


[link to www.michaelsheiser.com]

God Bless
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Yes, watched it yesterday. Very well worth the time, and done in a point-by-point manner like that 5-hour video about 9/11 that has everyone so impressed. This is of the same caliber, in my opinion. Thanks for sharing it.

And yes, the trolls are making sure this stays front and center. I'm sure they'll also make it "go BUMP in the night" for me.
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Er............What just happened?
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Hello AC. You have encountered one who is attempting to derail this thread and prevent you from exploring it true content and purpose. Just ignore them and enjoy the true content.

God Bless
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No.I mean the feeling from the other poster. My lights flickered and I felt odd,a growing headache.Time seemed to slow.
Anyone else?
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No.I mean the feeling from the other poster. My lights flickered and I felt odd,a growing headache.Time seemed to slow.
Anyone else?
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Everything's fine for me. Are you feeling a malevolent oppression from them?
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WE ARE HERE.



WE WAIT.



combures in gehennam!




WE ARE LEGION.
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OK....Creepy.





Would you like to talk about fractals?
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I'm not sure what you see in the text as a UFO. But why couldn't the creator of all things do whatever he wants? The accounts in the Bible show us that God is not one to yank people in line suddenly, but instead to lead them without violating free will. He largely left people to their own decisions, good or bad, but whenever he did intervene, he tended to go against social norms such as primogeniture. He gave his people chance after chance to make sensible choices, and even after they got the punishment they deserved (such as whining about lack of food after all the miracles they had seen in Egypt), he kept showing them mercy and taking them back again.

Our Creator is not the raw sovereignty of Satan but a wise Father who lets his children make mistakes.
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"A pillar of cloud by day, a pillar of fire by night"

A Grey cylinder, a red cylinder. It literally parks on top of the Holy of Holies when it's time to make camp.

Sounds like a flying object to me. I don't even find it that surprising when you consider all of the other ancient "Gods" seem to be flying about and doing Ancient Astronauty things. Whether from another planet or another dimension (Both? Why not?) NONE of them, including Yahweh, seem to be all that benevolent, therefore disqualifying them from being the true God, or Most High.

Now regarding free will, I do not see that as a "Gift" from a Creator God, but a by-product of absolute perfection.

By nature of duality, free-will and love fall on the same side of the paradigm. Therefore, Free-Will just *IS* rather than being meted out by some sort of overlord.

I do not believe that humans on Earth have free will. It does not trickle down into our matrix in it's pure form. It is meted out by overlords from "Gods" to "Rulers" to Laws and peer pressure.

Thus demonstrating that we are in the Government of the Adversary.
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The authors of the bible are alien in origin, and yes they are also multi dimensional and multi density as well. we all are, that is the nature of our existence in the galaxy...however, due to genetic manipulation, the ability to sense the non-physical has been greatly diminished...

they, the aliens are very capable with technical matters, including the ability to traverse dimensions... it is this technology that astounded the original inhabitants of this planet, and seduced them into following them...

it is the combination of genetic rewiring and technology feats that enabled these aliens to establish their hierarchial network of religious authority, pharoahs, kings, queens, and the pantheon of lesser authority figures...

earthers are wired to grovel before authority figures, and is why we have this massive pyramid structure of characters with titles beside their name running all over the planet today...

free will is a tricky thing to put a handle on, as we are constantly manipulated... it really cannot be achieved with in the game... by game, i am referring to this galaxy as a whole... true freedom comes, when you are free from the game...

that means being a galaxy game graduate, and i guarantee, this will not happen by clinging to the religious show presented on this planet...
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I know what that phrase means. It's bad.
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I know what that phrase means. It's bad.
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Are you a Christian? Just trying to help figure out what the problem is.
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I know what that phrase means. It's bad.
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Spill the beans dude!

Does it mean "fractals are cool"in French?
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Thanks for your help.I think were under attack by something else.Hope I'm just being silly LOL.
Nice video.
See you on a different thread.
God Bless you all
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Thanks for your help.I think were under attack by something else.Hope I'm just being silly LOL.
Nice video.
See you on a different thread.
God Bless you all
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Well, any time you need to talk about it, feel free to do so. God bless you too. hf
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Thanks for your help.I think were under attack by something else.Hope I'm just being silly LOL.
Nice video.
See you on a different thread.
God Bless you all
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Are you under attack by evil fractals?
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Thanks for your help.I think were under attack by something else.Hope I'm just being silly LOL.
Nice video.
See you on a different thread.
God Bless you all
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Prayers of protection sent your way.

God Bless
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Hey OP,

You are doing a splendid job,btw...

Are you familiar with Jonathan Kleck?

BLESSINGShf
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'Non faccio bollire questi capelli,
Ma faccio bollire questa robba,
Unita a l'anima e it cuore
Di quello che non possa più vivere,
E non possa. più stare,
In mezzo alle strege
Tu ti debbi sempre trovare!'
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Shout out to the red 'back at ya'


Would make sense had I E- V -E- R given a bad karma to anyone.....so

But I will wear it as a badge for my Lord Jesus Christhf
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